WI Congressman: No More ICE


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MIKE: TODAY ON “UPFRONT,” CALLS
TO ABOLISH THE U.S. IMMIGRATION
AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT AGENCY
OR ICE. NEXT, THE MADISON AREA DEMOCRAT
PROPOSING THE DRASTIC ACTION. HOW HE SAYS THE PRESIDENT IS
MISUSING THE AGENCY. THEN, SENATE LEADERS DECLARING
TAMMY BALDWIN A FRONT-RUNNER IN
WISCONSIN’S SENATE RACE. WHY THE ANNOUNCEMENT HAS BALDWIN
HERSELF SOUNDING THE ALARM. AND A VOTE TO SELECT THE
DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE FOR GOVERNOR,
WEEKS BEFORE THE ACTUAL
ELECTION. ♪
>>COVERING THE ISSUES IMPORTANT
 
 
 
 
TO WISCONSIN
THIS IS “UPFRONT WITH MIKE GOUSHA.”MIKE: HELLO AGAIN, EVERY
WELCOME TO “UPFRONT.”
SHOULD THE U.S. IMMIGRATION AND
CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT AGENCY, ICE,
BE ABOLISHED? THAT QUESTION IS RAPIDLY
BECOMING A HOT-BUTTON ISSUE IN
THIS YEAR’S MIDTERM ELECTIONS,
AND A WISCONSIN CONGRESSMAN IS
AT THE HEART OF THE DEBATE. FOLLOWING CLAIMS OF MASS
DEPORTATIONS, AND FAMILIES BEING
SEPARATED AT THE BORDER, MADISON
AREA DEMOCRAT MARK POCAN HAS
INTRODUCED LEGISLATION IN
WASHINGTON TO GET RID OF ICE. THE AGENCY WAS ESTABLISHED IN
2003 AFTER 9/11, AND HAS MORE
THAN 20,000 EMPLOYEES IN 400
OFFICES ACROSS THE U.S. AND THE
WORLD. ACCORDING TO ITS WEBSITE, ITS
CORE MISSION IS TO PROTECT
AMERICA FROM CROSS-BORDER CRIME
AND ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION THAT
THREATEN NATIONAL SECURITY. BUT SOME DEMOCRATS CLAIM THE
PRESIDENT IS MISUSING THE AGENCY
, AND THEY WANTED GONE. CONGRESSMAN MARK POCAN JOINS ME
NOW BY SATELLITE FROM
WASHINGTON. CONGRESSMAN, GOOD TO HAVE YOU
 
 
 
 
BACK ON THE PROGRAM. BRIEFLY, EXPLAIN WHY YOU THINK
ICE SHOULD BE ABOLISHED? MARK: THE PROBLEM WITH ICE RIGHT
NOW WITH THIS PRESIDENT IS IT IS
BEING MISUSED. THE PRESIDENT IS USING IT AS HIS
OWN PERSONAL POLICE FORCE, HIS
PERSONAL DEPORTATION FORCE,
INSTEAD OF GOING AFTER SERIOUS
CRIME AND TERRORISM, LIKE IT WAS
GREAT AFTER 9/11, WHICH WAS THE REASON IT WAS GREATER, HE IS
USING IT TO GO AFTER PEOPLE WITH
SPEEDING TICKETS OR DECADE-OLD
VIOLATIONS WHEN THEY WERE
TEENAGERS, OR SITTING IN A
PARKING LOT IN WISCONSIN AT THE HEAD START PROGRAM TO ROUTE
PEOPLE UP TO DEPORT THEM TO TRY
TO JUSTIFY THE NEED FOR A WALL. THAT IS A CLEAR VIOLATION OF
EVERYTHING THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO
DO. I WOUL ARGUE, IF YOU ARE BUSY
GOING AFTER PEOPLE WITH SPEEDING
TICKETS, YOU ARE NOT GOING AFTER
PEOPLE DOING HUMAN TRAFFICKING
OR OTHER SERIOUS CRIMES. AND IT IS UNABLE TO ACCOMPLISH
ITS GOALS. WE ARE SEEING, LET’S GET THIS
DONE RIGHT AND TRANSFER THE
APPROPRIATE RESPONSIBILITIES ICE
HAS. AND LET’S GET RID OF WHAT THE
PRESIDENT HAS DONE TO MAKE THIS
AGENCY UNABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THIS
MISSION. MIKE: YOU AND I HAVE SEEN POLLS
THAT SUGGEST MOST AMERICANS
THINK ICE SHOULD CONTINUE AND
NOT TO BE — THINK ICE SHOULD
CONTINUE AND NOT BE ABOLISHED. EVEN DEMOCRATS, ALTHOUGH THERE
IS A PLURALITY SUPPORTING EYES,
IT DOES NOT ACCOMPLISH ITS
MISSION. MARK: WE ARE NOT SAYING GET RID
OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES THAT
THEY DO. BUT RIGHT NOW, THEY CANNOT
ACCOMPLISH THEIR MISSION BECAUSE
OF THE MISUSE THAT THE PRESIDENT
HAS DONE BY GOING AFTER ALL OF
THESE OTHER SIDE CRIMES, OR PAST
ACTIVITIES COMES TO PROVE THE NEED FOR A WALL. IF WE PULLED THE QUESTION, WE
WOULD GET A DIFFERENT RESPONSE. MIKE: ARE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT
THE POSSIBLE POLITICAL
CONSEQUENCES? LOOKS LIKE REPUBLICANS WERE
SAYING, WE MAY BRING YOUR
PROPOSAL TO ABOLISH ICE TO THE
FLOOR FOR A VOTE. ARE YOU WORRIED ABOUT THAT? THEY SAID YOU WOULD VOTE AGAINST
HER OWN PROPOSAL IF THEY DID
THAT. MARK: REPUBLICANS WERE TRYING TO
BE CLEVER. THEY HAVE GOTTEN ALL SORTS OF
BAD PRESS. WE SAID, FINE, WE WILL FORCE A
VOTE NEXT WEEK. OFTEN, A BILL IS INTRODUCED AND
YOU BUILD SUPPORT BECAUSE YOU
HAVE TO DONE A VEHICLE TO TALK
ABOUT GETTING ORGANIZATIONAL
SUPPORT, BUT THEY ARE NOT
SERIOUS ABOUT REFORMING ICE AT ALL. BUT WE WILL TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE. IF YOU ARE GOING TO GIVE US AN
HOUR OF TIME ON THE FLOOR TO
TALK ABOUT SEPARATING KIDS FROM
THEIR PARENTS, AND JAILING
FIVE-YEAR-OLDS, WE WOULD LOVE TO
HAVE THAT DEBATE. IF PAUL RYAN WANT TO DO THAT, HE
HAS BEEN UNABLE TO GIVE US TIME
TO TALK ABOUT THE SUBJECTS, I
CHERISH THE MOMENTS TO HAVE
THOSE DEBATES ON THE FLOOR IN
CONGRESS. MIKE: YOU WENT TO THE BORDER TO
SEE FOR YOURSELF THE CONDITIONS
THERE. SINCE THEN, HOW DO YOU FEEL
ABOUT THE URGENCY THAT HAS GONE
IN TO BE 90. IN CHILDREN? MARK: IT IS PATHETIC THE FACT
THAT THEY SEPARATED CHILDREN
FROM FAMILIES AND THEY DID THAT
WITHOUT ANY THOUGHT. NOW THEY ARE TRYING TO FIGURE
WHO BELONGS TO WHO CHIMERIC
DEPORTING PARENTS BEFORE THEY
ARE LETTING KIDS. IT IS A MESS BECAUSE THIS WAS
DONE WITHOUT ANY THOUGHT OR ANY
PLANNING WHATSOEVER. THE COURT SAID, THIS IS A
MANDATE, NOT A SUGGESTION. YOU HAVE TO RE-FAMILIES. THEY ARE NOW — YOU HAVE TO
REUNITE THE FAMILIES AND THEY
ARE NOW DOING IT. IT IS INHUMANE CRUEL, AND WE
WANT TO FORCE CONGRESS AND THE
PRESIDENT TO BRING FAMILIES BACK
TOGETHER, AND LET’S HAVE A
HUMANE IMMIGRATION SYSTEM. RIGHT NOW, WE ARE STAFFING
PEOPLE AT LEGAL POINTS OF ENTRY
CLAIMING ASYLUM AND NOT ALLOWING
THEM TO. THE EITHER HAVE TO COME IN
ILLEGALLY AND RISK GOING BACK IN
GETTING CAUGHT UP IN CARTELS. THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES THAT I
WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A DEBATE ON
IN CONGRESS. PAUL RYAN, BRING IT ON, AND LET
US TALK ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE AGREE THAT YOU
CANNOT TAKE IT AWAY FROM THEIR
FAMILIES. MIKE: I WANT TO TALK WISCONSIN
POLITICS FOR A FEW SECONDS. YOU HAVE BEEN A STRONG SUPPORTER
OF RANDY BRYCE WHO IS RUNNING IN
THE FIRST CONGRESSIONAL
DISTRICT. ARE YOU WORRIED ABOUT HIS
CAMPAIGN? WE HAVE HAD NEGATIVE STORIES
ABOUT ARRESTS AND CHILD-SUPPORT
PAYMENTS. ARE YOU WORRIED ABOUT HIS
CANDIDACY AT THIS MOMENT? MARK: THEY SEE HIM AS THE FRONT
RUNNER AND WILL ATTACK HIM
ANYWAY POSSIBLE. IF YOU HAD A 20 YEAR AGO DUI AND
IS REGRETFUL, HE HAS SAID THAT. THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN
WISCONSIN THAT ARE EXACTLY LIKE
RANDY BRYCE. I WISH IN CONGRESS WE HAD MORE
PEOPLE LIKE RANDY BRYCE WHO
COMES FROM A WORKING-CLASS
BACKGROUND, — HALF OF MY
COLLEAGUES ARE MILLIONAIRES AND
THAT IS NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF AMERICA. IS LIKELY APPOINTMENT — IS
LIKELY OPPONENT IS WEALTHY. THEY WILL IDENTIFY FARMER WITH A
GUY WHO ADMITS HE HAS HAD PAST
FAULTS, BUT HAS WALK IN THEIR
SHOES AND SOMEONE WHO IS
OUTSOURCED JOBS TO MEXICO. I AM STRONGLY IN SUPPORT OF
RANDY. MIKE: FINAL QUESTION, SOME
PEOPLE THOUGHT IT WAS
INTERESTING. YOU WORK ASKED ABOUT THE ONE WHO
RAN AGAINST YOU FOR CONGRESS,
AND ASKED IF YOU THOUGHT SHE WAS
HONEST AND AUTHENTIC? AND NEWSPAPER ACCOUNTS SEEM TO
SUGGEST YOU DID NOT GIVE A
STRONG YES TO THAT QUESTION. HAVE YOU GOTTEN ANY BLOWBACK
ABOUT THAT? MARK: NOW, AND THANK YOU FOR
BRINGING THAT UP, MIKE. I TALKED TO HER LAST NIGHT AND
SHE WAS CLASSY ENOUGH TO WATCH
THE VIDEO, AND SAW THAT THEY
ASKED ME A VERY SPECIFIC
QUESTION. I WAS RELATING TO THAT SPECIFIC
INCIDENT. AND I SAID, I WAS VERY IMPRESSED
THAT THE CANDIDATE ARE TRYING TO
LIVE UP TO A CLEAN, CAMPAIGN
PLEDGE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP OUR
EYES ON THE PRIZE, WHICH IS
DEFEATING SCOTT WALKER. I DON’T WANT TO HAVE MY FUSE
MISREPRESENTED, SO THANK YOU FOR
A LIE ME TO SAY THAT. MIKE: SO YOU THINK SHE IS HONEST
AND AUTHENTIC? MARK: I THINK SHE AND ALL THE
CANDIDATES ARE HONEST, GOOD
QUALITY, WHO WILL BE OUTSTANDING
, AT ANY OF THEM WILL BEAT SCOTT
WALKER. MIKE: REPRESENTATIVE MARK POCAN,
ALWAYS GRATEFUL TO HAVE YOU ON
THE PROGRAM. IT SENATE LEADERSHIP BOTH
PARTIES DECLARING TAMMY BALDWIN
A FRONT RUNNER IN WISCONSIN’S
RACE FOR SENATE, SAYING ITS NOT
— SING IT IS NOT ONE OF THEIR
TOP TIER RACES. ABC NEWS’ POLITICAL DIRECTOR
RICK KLEIN JOINS ME. ARE DEMOCRATS TAKING WISCONSIN
FOR GRANTED? AND EIGHT DEMOCRATS IN THE RACE
FOR GOVERNOR. WHICH WE WERE JUST TALKING
ABOUT. THE UNUSUAL WAY ONE ORGANIZATION
IS TRYING TO NARROW THE FIELD
FOR ITS FOLLOWERS.>>”UPFRONT WITH MIKE GOUSHA”
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2 thoughts on “WI Congressman: No More ICE

  1. They can’t accomplish their mission when people are protesting against them when they’re trying to make big drug busts, too! As for being in Beloit, they can come to my neighborhood!

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