Dayna Bowen Matthew: Afro movement back then is very similar to the natural hair movement today, right? And so Professor Gates does a fabulous job of saying “we’ve come so far but yet we have so far to go,” right? How do we end up here, where we have to march in the street and say “Black lives matter”? Why is that even a statement that I have to make about myself? Why do I have to have a natural hair movement today? What has not changed? So the parallels between how I felt — yes, I was very young, very young, at the time — and how I feel today, right, when I have to do a repeat of the same expression, the same reclamation of my body, the same expression of my value it feels very parallel.
Charlayne Hunter-Gault: So are you saying what goes around comes around, or something like that? Matthew: It appears that it does.
Gault: Or déjà vu all over again, or? Matthew: I would say it’s different in some ways, but so much the same in other ways that are really quite troubling.