There’s No Tomorrow (limits to growth & the future)


Incubate Pictures presents In association with Post Carbon Institute There’s No Tomorrow This is the earth, as it looked 90 million years ago. Geologists call this period the ‘Late Cretaceous’. It was a time of extreme global warming, When dinosaurs still ruled the planet. They went about their lives, secure in their place at the top of the food chain, oblivious of the changes taking place around them. The continents were drifting apart, opening huge rifts in the Earth’s crust. They flooded, becoming seas. Algae thrived in the extreme heat, poisoning the water. They died, and fell, in their trillions, to the bottom of the rifts. Rivers washed sediment into the seas, until the organic remains of the algae were buried. As the pressure grew, so did the heat, until a chemical reaction transformed the organics into hydrocarbon fossil fuels: Oil and Natural Gas. A similar process occurred on land, which produced coal. It took nature about 5 million years to create the fossil fuels that the world consumes in 1 year. The modern way of life is dependent on this fossilised sunlight, although a surprising number of people take it for granted. Since 1860, geologists have discovered over 2 trillion barrels of oil. Since then, the world has used approximately half. Before you can pump oil, you have to discover it. At first it was easy to find, and cheap to extract. The first great American oilfield was Spindletop, discovered in 1900 Many more followed. Geologists scoured America. They found enormous deposits of oil, natural gas and coal. America produced more oil than any other country, enabling it to become an industrial super-power. Once an oil well starts producing oil, it’s only a matter of time before it enters a decline. Individual wells have different production rates. When many wells are averaged together, the combined graph looks like a bell curve. Typically it takes 40 years after the peak of discovery for a country to reach its peak of production, after which it enters a permanent fall. In the 1950s, Shell geophysicist M. King Hubbert predicted that America’s oil production would peak in 1970, 40 years after the peak of U.S. oil discovery. Few believed him. However, in 1970, American oil production peaked, and entered a permanent decline. Hubbert was vindicated. From this point on, America would depend increasingly on imported oil. This made her vulnerable to supply disruptions, and contributed to the economic mayhem of the 1973 and 1979 oil shocks. The 1930s saw the highest rate of oil discoveries in U.S. history. In spite of advanced technology, the decline in the discovery of new American oilfields has been relentless. More recent finds, such as ANWAR, would at best provide enough oil for 17 months. Even the new “Jack 2” field in the gulf of Mexico would only supply a few months of domestic demand. Though large, neither field comes close to satisfying America’s energy requirements. Evidence is now mounting that world oil production is peaking, or is close to it. Globally, the rate of discovery of new oilfields peaked in the 1960s. Over 40 years later, the decline in the discovery of new fields seems unstoppable. 54 of the 65 major oil producing nations have already peaked in production. Many of the others are expected to follow in the near future. The world will need to bring the equivalent of a new Saudi Arabia into production every three years to make up for declining output in existing oilfields. In the nineteen sixties, six barrels of oil were found for every one that was used. Four decades later, the world consumes between three and six barrels of oil for every one that it finds. Once the peak of world oil production is reached, demand for oil will outstrip supply, and the price of gasoline will fluctuate wildly, affecting far more than the cost of filling a car. Modern cities are fossil fuel dependent. Even roads are made from asphalt, a petroleum product, as are the roofs of many homes. Large areas would be uninhabitable without heating in the winter or air conditioning in the summer. Suburban sprawl encourages people to drive many miles to work, school and stores. Major cities have been zoned with residential and commercial areas placed far apart, forcing people to drive. Suburbia, and many communities were designed on the assumption of plentiful oil and energy. Chemicals derived from fossil fuels, or Petro-chemicals, are essential in the manufacture of countless products. The modern system of agriculture is heavily dependent on fossil fuels, as are hospitals, aviation, water distribution systems, and the U.S. military, which alone uses about 140 million barrels of oil a year. Fossil fuels are also essential for the creation of plastics and polymers, key ingredients in computers, entertainment devices and clothing. The global economy currently depends on endless growth, demanding an increasing supply of cheap energy. We are so dependant on oil and other fossil fuels, that even a small disruption in supply may have far-reaching effects on every aspect of our lives. ENERGY Energy is the ability to do work. The average American today has available the energy equivalent of 150 slaves, working 24 hours a day. Materials that store this energy for work are called fuels, Some fuels contain more energy than others. This is called energy density. Of these fuels, oil is the most critical. The world consumes 30 billion barrels a year, equal to 1 cubic mile of oil, which contains as much energy as would be generated from 52 nuclear power plants working for the next 50 years. Although oil only generates 1.6% of U.S. electricity, it powers 96% of all transportation. In 2008, two thirds of America’s oil was imported. Most was from Canada, Mexico, Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, Nigeria, Iraq and Angola. Several factors make oil unique: it is energy dense. One barrel of oil contains the energy equivalent of almost three years of human labour. It is liquid at room temperature, easy to transport and usable in small engines. To acquire energy, you have to use energy. The trick is to use smaller amounts to find and extract larger amounts. This is called EROEI: Energy Return on Energy Invested. Conventional oil is a good example. The easy to extract, high-quality crude was pumped first. Oilmen spent the energy equivalent of 1 barrel of oil to find and extract 100. The EROEI of oil was 100. As the easy to find oil was pumped first, exploration moved into deep waters, or distant countries, using increasing amounts of energy to do so. Often, the oil we find now is heavy or sour crude, and is expensive to refine. The EROEI for oil today is as low as 10. If you use more energy to get the fuel than is contained in the fuel, it’s not worth the effort to get it. It is possible to convert one fuel source into another. Every time you do so, some of the energy contained in the original fuel is lost. For instance, there is unconventional oil: Tar Sands and Shale. Tar Sands are found mainly in Canada. Two thirds of the world’s shale is in the US. Both of these fuels can be converted to synthetic crude oil. However, this requires large amounts of heat and fresh water, reducing their EROEI, which varies from five, to as low as one and a half. Shale is an exceptionally poor fuel, pound for pound containing about one third the energy of a box of breakfast cereal. Coal exists in vast quantities, and generates almost half of the planet’s electricity. The world uses almost 2 cubic miles of coal a year. However, Global coal production may peak before 2040. The claim that America has centuries worth of coal is deceptive, as it fails to account for growing demand, and decreasing quality. Much of the high quality anthracite coal is gone, leaving lower quality coal that is less energy dense. Production issues arise, as surface coal is depleted, and miners have to dig deeper and in less accessible areas. Many use destructive mountaintop removal to reach coal deposits, causing environmental mayhem. Natural gas is often found alongside oil and coal. North American discovery of conventional gas peaked in the 1950s, and production peaked in the early 70s. If the discovery graph is moved forward by 23 years, the possible future of North American conventional natural gas production is revealed. Recent breakthroughs have allowed the extraction of unconventional natural gas, such as shale gas, which might help offset decline in the years ahead. Unconventional natural gas is controversial, as it needs high energy prices to be profitable. Even with Unconventional gas, there may be a peak in global natural gas production by 2030. Large uranium reserves for nuclear fission still exist. To replace the 10 terawatts the world currently generates from fossil fuels, would require 10,000 nuclear power plants. At that rate, the known reserves of uranium would last for only 10 to 20 years. Experiments with plutonium based fast-breeder reactors in France and Japan have been expensive failures. Nuclear fusion faces massive technical obstacles. Then there are the renewables. Windpower has a high EROEI, but is intermittent. Hydro power is reliable, but most rivers in the developed world are already dammed. Conventional geothermal power plants use existing hotspots near the Earth’s surface. They are limited to those areas. In the experimental EGS system, two shafts would be drilled 6 miles deep. Water is pumped down one shaft, to be heated in fissures, then rise up the other, generating power. According to a recent MIT report, this technology might supply 10% of US electricity by 2050. Wave power is restricted to coastal areas. The energy density of waves varies from region to region. Transporting wave-generated electricity inland would be challenging. Also, the salty ocean environment is corrosive to turbines. Biofuels are fuels that are grown. Wood has a low energy density, and grows slowly. The world uses 3.7 cubic miles of wood a year. Biodiesel and ethanol are made from crops grown by petroleum powered agriculture. The energy profit from these fuels is very low. Some politicians want to turn corn into ethanol. Using Ethanol to supply one tenth of projected US oil use in 2020, would require 3% of America’s Land. To supply one third would require 3 times the area now used to grow food. To supply all US petroleum consumption in 2020 would take twice as much land as is used to grow food. Hydrogen has to be extracted from Natural Gas, coal or water, which uses more energy than we get from the Hydrogen. This makes a Hydrogen economy unlikely. All the world’s photovoltaic solar panels generate as much electricity as two coal power plants. The equivalent of between 1 and 4 tons of coal are used in the manufacture of a single solar panel. We’d have to cover as many as 140,000 square miles with panels to meet current world demand. As of 2007, there are only about 4 square miles. Concentrated Solar Power, or Solar Thermal has great potential, though at the moment there are only a small number of plants operating. They are also limited to sunny climates, requiring large amounts of electricity to be transmitted over long distances. All of the alternatives to oil depend on oil-powered machinery, or require materials such as plastics that are produced from oil. When considering future claims of amazing new fuels or inventions, ask: Does the advocate have a working, commercial model of the invention? What is its energy density? Can it be stored or easily distributed? Is it reliable or intermittent? Can it be scaled to a national level? Are there hidden engineering challenges? What is the EROEI? What are the environmental impacts? Remember that large numbers can be deceptive. For example: 1 billion barrels of oil will satisfy global demand for only 12 days. A transition from fossil fuels would be a monumental challenge. As of 2007, coal generates 48.5% of U.S. electricity. 21.6% is from natural gas, 1.6% is from petroleum, 19.4% is from nuclear, 5.8% is from hydro. Other renewables only generate 2.5%. Is it possible to replace a system based on fossil fuels with a patchwork of alternatives? Major technological advances are needed, as well as political will and co-operation, massive investment, international consensus, the retrofitting of the $45 trillion global economy, including transportation, manufacturing industries, and agricultural systems, as well as officials competent to manage the transition. If all these are achieved, could the current way of life continue? Growth These bacteria live in a bottle. Their population doubles every minute. At 11AM there is one bacterium. At 12 noon the bottle is full. It is half-full at 11.59 leaving only enough space for one more doubling. The bacteria see the danger. They search for new bottles, and find 3. They assume that their problem is solved. By 12 noon, the first bottle is full. By 12.01, the second bottle is full. By 12.02, all the bottles are full. This is the problem that we face, due to the doubling caused by Exponential Growth. When humanity began to use coal and oil as fuel sources, it experienced unprecedented growth. Even low growth rates produce large increases over time. At a 1% growth rate, an economy will double in 70 years. A 2% rate doubles in 35 years. At a 10% growth rate, an economy will double in only 7 years. If an economy grows at the current average of 3%, it doubles every 23 years. With each doubling, demand for energy and resources will exceed all the previous doublings combined. The financial system is built on the assumption of growth – which requires an increasing supply of energy to support it. Banks lend money they don’t have, in effect creating it. The borrowers use the newly created loan money to grow their businesses, and pay back the debt, with an interest payment which requires more growth. Due to this creation of debt formed money, most of the world’s money represents a debt with interest to be paid. Without continual new and ever larger generations of borrowers to produce growth, and thus pay off these debts, the world economy will collapse. Like a Ponzi Scheme, the system must expand or die. Partly through this debt system, the effects of economic growth have been spectacular: in GDP, damming of rivers, water use, fertiliser consumption, urban population, paper consumption, motor vehicles, communications and tourism. World population has grown to 7 billion, and is expected to exceed 9 billion by 2050. On a flat, infinite earth, this would not be a problem. However, as the Earth is round and finite, we will eventually face limits to growth. Economic expansion has resulted in increases in atmospheric nitrous oxide and methane, ozone depletion, increases in great floods, damage to ocean ecosystems, including nitrogen runoff, loss of rainforest and woodland, increases in domesticated land, and species exinctions. If we place a single grain of rice on the first square of a chessboard, double this and place 2 grains on the second, double again and place 4 on the third, double again and place 8 on the fourth, and continue this way, putting on each square twice the number of grains than were on the previous one, by the time we reach the final square, we need an astronomical number of grains: 9 quintillion, 223 quadrillion, 372 trillion, 36 billion, 854 million, 776 thousand grains: more grain than the human race has grown in the last 10,000 years. Modern economies, like the grains on the chess board, doubles every few decades. On which square of the chessboard are we? Besides energy, civilisation demands numerous essential resources: fresh water, topsoil, food, forests, and many kinds of minerals and metals. Growth is limited by the essential resource in scarcest supply. A barrel is made of staves, and like water filling a barrel, growth can go no further than the lowest stave, or the most limited essential resource. Humans currently utilise 40% of all photosynthesis n Earth. Though it might be possible to use 80%, we are unlikely to ever use 160%. FOOD The global food supply relies heavily on fossil fuels. Before WW1, all agriculture was Organic. Following the invention of fossil fuel derived fertilisers and pesticides there were massive improvements in food production, allowing for increases in human population. The use of artificial fertilisers has fed far more people than would have been possible with organic agriculture alone. Fossil fuels are needed for farming equipment, transportation, refrigeration, packaging – in plastic, and cooking. Modern agriculture uses land to turn fossil fuels into food – and food into people. About 7 calories of fossil-fuel energy are used to produce 1 calorie of food. In America, food travels approximately 1,500 miles from farm to customer. Besides fossil fuel decline, there are several threats to the current system of food production: Cheap energy, improved technology and subsidies have allowed massive fish catches. Global fish catches peaked in the late nineteen eighties, forcing fishermen to move into deep waters. Nitrogen run off by fossil fuel based fertilisers poisons rivers and seas, creating enormous dead zones. At this rate, all fish populations are projected to collapse by 2048. Acid rain from cities and industries leeches the soil of vital nutrients, such as potassium, calcium, and magnesium. Another threat is a lack of water. Many farms use water pumped from underground aquifers for irrigation. The aquifers need thousands of years to fill up, but can be pumped dry in a few decades, like oil wells. America’s massive Ogallala aquifer has fallen so low that many farmers have had to return to less productive dry-land farming. Additionally, The use of irrigation and fertilisers can lead to salinisation: the accumulation of salt in the soil. This is a major cause of desertification. Still another threat is topsoil loss. 200 years ago, there were 6 feet of topsoil on the American prairies. Today, through tillage and poor practices, approximately half is gone. Irrigation encourages the growth of stem rust fungi like UG-99 – which has the potential to destroy 80% of the world’s grain harvest. According to Norman Borlaug, father of the Green Revolution, stem rust “has immense potential for social and human destruction.” The use of biofuels means that less land will be available for food production. An area has a finite carrying capacity. This is the number of animals or people that can live there indefinitely. If a species overshoots the carrying capacity of that area, it will die back until the population returns to its natural limits. The world has avoided this die-off by finding new lands to cultivate, or by increasing production, which has been possible largely thanks to oil. To continue growth, more resources are required than the Earth can provide, but no new planets are available. In the face of all these challenges, global food production must double by 2050 to feed the growing world population. 1 billion people are already malnourished or starving. There will be challenges in feeding over 9 billion in the years to come, when world oil and natural gas production will be in decline. HAPPY ENDING The global economy grows exponentially, at about 3% a year, consuming increasing amounts of non-renewable fuels, minerals and metals, as well as renewable resources like water, forests, soils and fish faster than they can be replenished. Even at a growth rate of 1%, an economy will double in 70 years. The problem is intensified by other factors: Globalisation allows people on one continent to buy goods and food made by those on another. The lines of supply are long, placing strains on a limited oil resource. We now rely on distant countries for basic necessities. Modern cities are fossil fuel dependent. Most Banking Systems are based on debt, forcing people into a spiral of loans and repayments – producing growth. What can be done in the face of these problems? Many believe that the crisis can be prevented through conservation, technology, smart growth, recycling, electric cars and hybrids, substitution, or voting. Conservation will save you money, but it alone won’t save the planet. If some people cut back on oil use, the reduced demand will drive down the price, allowing others to buy it for less. In the same fashion, a more efficient engine that uses less energy will, paradoxically, lead to greater energy use. In the 19th century, English economist William Stanley Jevons realised that Better steam engines made coal a more cost effective fuel source, which led to the use of more steam engines, which increased total coal consumption. Growth of use will consume any energy or resources saved through conservation. Many believe that scientists will solve these problems with new technology. However, technology is not energy. Technology can channel energy into work, but it can’t replace it. It also consumes resources: for instance; computers are made with one tenth of the energy needed to make a car. More advanced technologies may make the situation worse, as many require rare minerals, which are also approaching limits. For example, 97% of the world’s Rare Earths are produced by China, most from a single mine in inner Mongolia. These minerals are used in catalytic converters, aircraft engines, high efficiency magnets and hard drives, hybrid car batteries, lasers, portable X-Rays, shielding for nuclear reactors, compact discs, hybrid vehicle motors, low energy light-bulbs, fibre optics and flat-screen displays. China has begun to consider restricting the export of these minerals, as demand soars. So called sustainable growth or smart growth won’t help, as it also uses non renewable metals and minerals in ever increasing quantities, including Rare Earths. Recycling will not solve the problem, as it requires energy, and the process is not 100% efficient. It is only possible to reclaim a fraction of the material being recycled; a large portion is lost forever as waste. Electric cars run on electricity. As most power is generated from fossil fuels, this is not a solution. Also, cars of all types consume oil in their production. Each tire alone requires about 7 gallons of Petroleum. There are around 800 million cars in the world, as of 2010. At current growth rates, this number would reach 2 billion by 2025. It is unlikely that the planet can support this many vehicles for long, regardless of their power source. Many economists believe that the free market will substitute one energy source with another through technological innovation. However, the main substitutes to oil face their own decline rates. Substitution also fails to account for the time needed to prepare for a transition. The U.S. Department of Energy’s Hirsch report estimates that at least 2 decades would be needed to prepare for the effects of Peak Oil. The issues of energy shortages, resource depletion, topsoil loss, and pollution are all symptoms of a single, larger problem: Growth. As long as our financial system demands endless growth, reform is unlikely to succeed. What then, will the future look like? Optimists believe that growth will continue forever, without limits. Pessimists think that we’re heading towards a new Stone Age, or extinction. The truth may lie between these extremes. It is possible that society might fall back to a simpler state, one in which energy use is a lot less. This would mean a harder life for most. More manual labour, more farm work, and local production of goods, food and services. What should a person do to prepare for such a possible future? Expect a decrease in supplies of food and goods from far away places. Start walking or cycling. Get used to using less electricity. Get out of debt. Try to avoid banks. Instead of shopping at big box stores, support local businesses. Buy food grown locally, at Farmers’ Markets. Instead of a lawn, consider gardening to grow your own food. Learn how to preserve it. Consider the use of local currencies should the larger economy cease to function, and develop greater self sufficiency. None of these steps will prevent Collapse, but they might improve your chances in a low energy future, one in which we will have to be more self reliant, as our ancestors once were.

100 thoughts on “There’s No Tomorrow (limits to growth & the future)

  1. If all those Numbers and Facts add up, there realy is No Tomorrow, if the OIL runs out
    we are All realy Screwed… : (

  2. do another video with new projections for the upcoming decades. It's 2017 and, I feel like by touching base in this video, you can make more accurate projections about the decades to come. Don't forget to regard the changes between each growth and contraction made to succumb for what global habits were and are now.

  3. So if I buy an electrical vehicle, then some other guy can buy a "Hummer" because my environmental awareness is causing the demand for oil to decline, so he will be able to pay for it…
    And that person driving the Hummer will be the one who will impress the girls…?
    Ow no, we are seriously screwed.

    Lets hope we will run out of oil soon before we destroy to much of this world.

  4. So in other words, harvest space for materials.
    A single asteroid has enough hydrogen and ice to fuel mining missions for years to come.

  5. This video is awesome, and I go back several times to watch it again in order to let the information sink in. It gives us great financial advice.
    I know that's it's already 5 years old but it's more relevant today than it was in 2012.

  6. Your video states that most of the world's food production is industrialized and in need of a big oil consumption. I just watched the documentary 'TOMORROW' where they say that approx. 70% of world's food production is done by smaller farms and not so heavy industrialized businesses. So the heavy industrialized farms are said to produce the needed ressources for fuel and livestock farming. Which one is it now? I don't deny the need of change in most parts of modern lifestyle/culture of living. And I've ever been sceptical about the 'story' of growth.

  7. When is the real crisis going to start? What is going to trigger it? Is the news that a big oil field ran out of oil that is going to trigger a big spike in oil prices?

  8. Just to put a cat amongst the pigeons. I propose that we have no children. 🙂 Thats what I did, but I dont know what the rest were thinking….. Great animation and story line. There are some flaws in the exponential growth explanation because for many reasons the rates of doubling is slowed at some point. But we have overshot the planets ability to support us indefinitely. The only question is when will we be unable to support what we have. We have done well to get this far but we seem to have walked into the same trap that a locust plague does.

  9. Evidence that it is starting to happen: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/29/world/africa/africa-climate-change-kenya-land-disputes.html?_r=0

  10. A very interesting paper by Graham Turner from 2014 that confirms http://sustainable.unimelb.edu.au/sites/default/files/docs/MSSI-ResearchPaper-4_Turner_2014.pdf

  11. Man this is a great video about how everyone is going to die at one point and how we are dying because the cloud people are eating our babies and the government is pumping gas into the air to make us submissive while they infect our drinking water with chemicals designed to kill us slowly and eventually natural selection will take over. Oh, shit I got kinda off topic there so yea. Ted Cruz is the zodiac killer.

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  12. 12:18 And, when they all use thorium, which is 3 times more common than Uranium and produces the same quantity of energy for 200 times less of it, it should solve the problem at short term.

  13. The Earth will be fine…it will shrug us off once we have fucked eveything up and evolutionary principles will begin once again.

  14. Idiots who can't even look after themsleves but think it's their 'right' to reproduce don't help this sittuation, or those who love beyond their means. Not only the finite resources of the planet are at risk and the incresing demand in energ and resources as depicted in this very good presentation, but also social security, and other social safety netsn we all rely on or may need in time of crisus. If you're an idiot or can't quite make it, then please do not pass on your DNA. For those who can get their act together and who can afford to have children, how many is enuough?

  15. The solution is that the world, especially the west, needs to learn to live without the cushy luxaries of the 21st century. Don't buy a new phone every year, take car of your car, don't aspire to consume endlessly. These liberals always talk about the big corporations and how greedy they are while they sip their $10 macchiatos at some hoyty toytie Brooklyn cafe. They never talk about living simpler lives. That's why I propose that every person should take drugs in the desert and live for a week without modern comfort.

  16. If we had a 50-year-baby-free period all the problems would be solved for good: No "furtile" femal left to produce any single resource-guzzler ever more.

  17. Необходима новая инфраструктура, например, НИР "Съемная инфраструктура"
    #общество #технологии #сотрудничество

  18. Oh man we are so completely fucked. Don't have kids guys. Your descendants, if not yourself, are guaranteed a life of suffering and chaos.

    I guess it makes sense that we would consume ourselves to death. After all, nature selects for the best consumers. It's an inevitable result of complex life evolution, paired with, "intelligence."

  19. Addicts won't stop taking the drug until they've hit rock bottom. Ergo; …..well , you can do the math. 🙂

  20. T.Robert Malthus predicted this conditions on the Earth with population of theory. Unfortunatelly, it is inevitable situation.

  21. >implying growth rate isn't based on resources
    >implying exponential growth is what ACTUALLY happens in nature, not logarithmic growth
    >implying that humans somehow exist outside the laws of biology
    Who the actual fuck is this supposed to dupe?

  22. Very good documentary. But how can anybody actually talk about „no tomorow“ and don´t talk about (abrupt) climate change? About Guy McPherson and facts, that he points to…

  23. Dont forget the latest crazy thing, crypto Currency. Where huge PowerPlants are dedicated to the computers mining useless complex mathematic riddles

  24. Also when panic happens people are building bunkers they Can survive 20 years in. But its going to be crazy because they need to survive much longer time than mere 20 years.

  25. This is a great little film, but there was no direct mention of the elephant in the room – overpopulation.

  26. Saved this video to my favorites like 5 years ago….funny how its been removed several times, and wont stay saved in my favs….coincidence? Thats OK, though. Ill never forget it, or who first made me aware of peak oil. R.I.P. Mike Ruppert

  27. We can meet coming food shortages by switching to a protein-packed diet of insects. They breed quickly, highly nutritious and are low maintenance compared to livestock. We need to find materials other than plastics, and we can at the very least use technologies to postpone the collapse until we find solutions. Helium-3 on the moon can provide virtually free energy (but we should focus our limited energies on getting it, otherwise we won’t be able to harness it if we run out of the materials needed for those space missions).

    There also need to be international controls on growth. Free sex ed and critical thinking classes with a 2 child policy to get rapidly reproducing, highly religious folks to tone it down and allow for slow, stable declines.

    We should also make every car electric while making their power sources renewable.

    And then some mandates to slowly forgive existing debts and force an immediate lockdown on the issuance of new debt. All growth has to be real and if a limit is reached, a limit is reached, find another way to grow. People need to stop unnecessary spending and wages need to increase immediately so that they stop accrueing so much debt. Find a way to lower inflation too. Literally, just stop the growth and let’s go back down to sustainable economies before we’re truly fucked.

    I dunno, I throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks. It’s midnight and I’m tired. 😩😫😮💨😴

  28. Can you give a source on the statement that is given here: 1:54

    Is it really true we use 5 million years of solar energy in one year?

  29. Why do you constantly want to improve? Why do you always want to grow? Why does everything have to keep improving for the future? Why do you constantly want to make new things? Why do you always want things to be faster, better, stronger. More efficient, less cost. Why do companies keep growing? Why are they so big? Why can't they have enough of growth for one day? Why does everyday they have to think "how can we make our product better, faster, stronger, more profitable, reach more people"? Why can't they relax for a day, for a month for a year? Why can't a year pass without a new iPhone or an upgraded product? Why can't time pass where we don't think about the next big thing? Why do we want AI and self-driving cars and robots that does everything for us? Why exactly? So what if I have to wait 5 minutes for a cashier, no we want to make the cashier faster. We will put automated cashier registers that make your experience faster. But why exactly, why is it such a big deal that you want to minimize my time? Why can't you just keep things as they are?

  30. This is a standard Malthusian analysis that ignores the resources of the solar system, and the potential for asteroid mining, geoengineering, terraforming, habitation in space, solar energy absorbed in space, and the potential for new technologies which can actually increase our energy supply.

    There are still real limits, but like all Malthusian analyses, this presents an unduly pessimistic view.

    And it also suggest individual action "Walking or Cycling" to solve systemic problems.

  31. Bruno Block send me here….after taking (stealing) our money in an ICO to prepare himself and family for the coming apocalypse. A real swell guy! Oh yes his oyster blockchain he plans on continuing to work will be mechanical with actual Perls and stored in shells, because there will be no electricity! Genius or mad man you decide!

  32. 2018: American oil production hits a new record high. Hubbert NOT vindicated as they said around 3:40 (although he eventually will be)

  33. y'all ni&&as meed some Isaac Arthur up in here. There is no natural limit to human growth. Sorry.

    Also, oil isn't a fossil fuel. Petroleum is created in the mantle of the Earth abiogenically.

    The U.S. is now a net oil exporter. We discover new fields daily.

  34. We've only used half of all oil we can? damn really hoped it was like…. Well, as close as possible to 100% would be good, thank u

  35. This "documentary" has raised some issues I'll be looking into further, but overall it's a prime example of what a bad documentary is. Besides its obvious lack of credible testimony or references, it's not-so-subtle cues of manipulation (THAT MUSIC) is blatant fear mongering. This is all in addition to being flat out wrong about some important issues. Food insecure peoples don't exist because the world can't produce enough food, the world has food insecure people because the majority of the grain produced is given to livestock rather than starving people. Starving people also aren't given food because of political corruption and government motives (for example, look at the famous famine in India when the Indian government was sitting on Mass quantities of rice but didn't want to deliver to the hungry because it would disrupt market prices for export. The same thing happened during the Irish famine). As of present day, the globe produces enough food to feed everybody on it AT LEAST 1,200 calories a day. All that being said, do I believe our current way of life is sustainable? No, we're in deep shit.

  36. Interesting video, but I wonder how much the recent discoveries and facts of the last seven years have changed things. For example, American oil production has skyrocketed recently due to the Shale Revolution, to the point that we are now the number one oil exporter, and by 2020 we will be a net exporter – in other words we will sell more than we buy. Of course, this is not close to our Peak some decades ago, but it seems a considerable change since 2012. I'm wondering if anyone with knowledge can comment on this.

  37. Thorium nuclear reactor can still save us from climate change, and can also clean sea water which can be used to produce wood, which can store co2 and also be used as building material for homes and multistory buildings.

  38. There is a statement in the video that humans use 40% of photosynthesis on the planet. Does anyone know about a source for that number?

  39. Im only 23 and Im just a kid from a little town called Collegeville in Pennsylvania but I dropped my major for enviornmental sciences and biological chemistry. None of my friends want to talk about this. This is scarey but I want to do something. I dont care if theres money in it, I need to do something about this. I dont think I can call myself human if I dont. I love all of you and there will be a tomorrow if we try.

  40. She did not consider molten thorium reactor, thorium can solve our problem till we become type 2 civilization.

  41. Luckily a superbug is going to wipe most of us out making it difficult to really sustain our global economy anyway. It's coming, and with the skepticism surrounding vaccines I'm not sure we'll be able to react quickly enough to manage it. The only thing that kept the recent ebola outbreak from becoming a global epidemic is that it killed people too quickly.

  42. ive heard this all my life….65…. and at least since Malthus 300 years ago. They seek short term profit and do nothing policies

  43. Eh?… Corn as a bio-fuel for America by 2020:
    10th: 3% America's land
    33%: 3x the area now used to grow food
    100%: 2x as much land as is used to grow food

  44. Everything that was said here is spot-on, and we now know the environmental problems are far worse than previously believed. However, there is one massive problem that wasn't mentioned here, and that is the global dysgenics crisis. Low IQ people do almost all of the breeding, and high IQ people are increasingly barren. This is a disaster in the making…

  45. Anyone else are feeling depressive after see this video? I'm afraid about our future. Best regards from Brazil!

  46. So, you're telling me that when Jesus said the moneylenders were a problem (2000 years ago) he was right and we STILL haven't fixed the problem?

  47. good you are still here after nearing 10 years when i first saw this video … however the World will go to crap on such a outcome, man as the apex predator will be need to reverse its growth to promote biological diversity … enhancement of the chemistry of life at the same time with technology making the cost of labour irrelevant …todays garbage dumps will be tomorrows mines. The basis of the energy-materials per capita ratio will promote a -ve population feed back loop. Food is the trigger to collapse in a global scenario is quick, the reliance become collapsing dominoes. If we were to populate the planet with the same density as China's 1.4b people that would yield 22.5b and with India being 1/3 the size of China would yield 68b people.

  48. Im studying computer science and we need to watch this and write about the three main threats which the world is facing… I have no idea why xD

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