The National for Wednesday, Oct. 9, 2019 — Stabbed teen remembered, Syria attacked


(*) (*)>>Adrienne: TONIGHT, DEVASTATED AND FURIOUS. A MOTHER WHO WITNESSED HER TEENAGED SON’S MURDER SPEAKS OUT.>>EVERYONE TOLD MY SON, EVEN I DID, THAT I TRIED TO SAVE HIM BUT I COULDN’T.>>Adrienne: SHE SAYS THAT HE WAS TORMENTED AT SCHOOL FOR MONTHS AND NO ONE STEPPED IN. HER PLEA TO STOP BULLYING.>>>TURKEY ATTACKS A CRUCIAL U.S. ALLY IN THE FIGHT AGAINST ISIS.>>>WHY YOUR BACKYARD FIREPOT COULD BE DANGEROUS.>>Reporter: DO YOU FEEL THAT THERE’S A TARGET ON YOUR BACK?>>Adrienne: AND IN HAMILTON, A HOTBED FOR HATE. CBC NEWS INVESTIGATES.>>>THIS IS “THE NATIONAL.” (*)>>>IN HAMILTON, ONTARIO, TONIGHT, HUNDREDS GATHERED TO SHARE THEIR GRIEF AND THEIR OUTRAGE AT THE MURDER OF A 14-YEAR-OLD BOY KILLED OUTSIDE OF HIS HIGH SCHOOL. (*) (singing) * GIVE PEACE A CHANCE DEVAN BRACCI-SELVEY WAS STABBED TO DEATH NEAR HERE ON MONDAY AS HIS MOTHER WATCHED IN HORROR. TODAY SHE SPOKE PUBLICLY FOR THE FIRST TIME. ELLEN MAURO SHOWS US HOW HELPLESS SHE FELT TO STOP THE BULLYING THAT SHE BELIEVES THAT LED TO HER SON’S DEATH.>>Reporter: EVEN IN HEARTBREAK THIS MOTHER CHOSE TO SPEAK OUT TODAY ABOUT HER MURDERED SON.>>HE’S NEVER GOING TO GROW UP, HE’S NEVER GOING TO GET MARRIED. HE’S NEVER GOING TO KNOW WHAT IT’S LIKE TO BE A FATHER.>>Reporter: SHARI-ANN SELVEY SAYS THAT HER SON WAS BULLIED MERCILESSLY, EVEN ON THE DAY THAT HE WAS KILLED.>>WHEN HE CALLED ME TO SAY THAT THEY WERE BOTHERING HIM AT THE SCHOOL, I RAN OVER THERE. AND… [indiscernible]>>Reporter: HER 14-YEAR-OLD SON, DEVAN BRACCI-SELVEY, STABBED TO DEATH RIGHT IN FRONT OF HER. POLICE SAY BY ANOTHER 14-YEAR-OLD.>>HE HAD A BEAUTIFUL SOUL.>>Reporter: SELVEY TOLD THE SCHOOL SEVERAL TIMES THAT HER SON WAS BEING TARGETED.>>FOR A MONTH WE’VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THIS DEALT WITH. EVERYONE TOLD MY SON, EVEN I DID, AND I TRIED TO SAVE HIM AND I COULDN’T.>>I CAN’T IMAGINE WHAT DEVAN’S MOM IS GOING THROUGH.>>Reporter: SCHOOL BOARD OFFICIALS WOULD NOT SAY HOW THE SCHOOL RESPONDED TO THE REPORTS OF BULLYING. DID THE SCHOOL BOARD OR THE SCHOOL FAIL THIS YOUNG MAN?>>IF YOU’RE ASKING ME RIGHT NOW, AGAIN IT’S PREMATURE FOR ME TO SAY. I BELIEVE THAT THE ADMINISTRATION HAS NOT FAILED THEM. BUT, AGAIN –>>Reporter: EVEN THOUGH HE’S NOW DEAD?>>YES, I DON’T BELIEVE THAT THE SCHOOL HAD FAILED HIM BASED ON WHAT I KNOW. ONCE WE DID OUR INQUIRY AND IF THERE IS, THEN WE’LL KNOW TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. DID THE BOARD FAIL OR WAS IT SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE’RE GOING TO LEARN THROUGH THIS POLICE INVESTIGATION THAT WE JUST DON’T KNOW RIGHT NOW?>>Reporter: BUT WHATEVER THEY LEARN NOW IT MAY BE LITTLE COMFORT TO A MOTHER PLUNGED INTO GRIEF.>>EVERY TIME I CLOSE MY EYES IT’S THERE. SO I DON’T CLOSE MY EYES. IF I DON’T CLOSE MY EYES I CAN’T RE-LIVE IT. (*)>>Reporter: SOME SOLACE PERHAPS FROM TONIGHT’S VIGIL AND THE EMBRACE OF A COMMUNITY PROMISING TO STAND AGAINST BULLYING. ELLEN MAURO, CBC NEWS, HAMILTON, ONTARIO.>>Adrienne: TODAY HAMILTON POLICE URGED VICTIMS OF BULLYING TO SPEAK UP.>>YOU’VE GOT TO TELL SOMEBODY, ABSOLUTELY. TELL THE SCHOOL STAFF, TELL SOMEBODY THAT YOU TRUST. IF IT WARRANTS CALLING THE POLICE, CALL THE POLICE. BUT, CERTAINLY REPORT IT. AND DON’T BOTTLE IT UP AND DON’T HIDE THAT.>>Adrienne: POLICE HAVE NOW CHARGED TWO MALES, AGED 14 AND 18, WITH FIRST-DEGREE MURDER. AND TODAY THEY SAID THAT TWO OTHER PEOPLE ARRESTED YESTERDAY WERE RELEASED AFTER LENGTHY QUESTIONING, A MALE AND FEMALE, BOTH 16. NO OTHER SUSPECTS ARE BEING SOUGHT, BUT POLICE DO SAY THEY HAVE RECEIVED VIDEO OF THE MURDER FROM WITNESSES.>>>TO THE FEDERAL CAMPAIGN NOW AND 12 DAYS OUT FROM THE ELECTION, CONSERVATIVE LEADER ANDREW SCHEER WENT TO A SPOT ON THE U.S. BORDER FAMOUS FAR AND WIDE AS AN ENTRY POINT FOR ASYLUM SEEKERS COMING TO CANADA. THREE YEARS AGO A TWEET FROM JUSTIN TRUDEAU RAMPED UP THEIR NUMBERS. KATIE SIMPSON SHOWS US SCHEER’S PLAN TO TURN THEM AWAY.>>Reporter: THIS MAKESHIFT BORDER STATION REPRESENTS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WITHIN CANADA’S IMMIGRATION SYSTEM ACCORDING TO ANDREW SCHEER. THE CONSERVATIVE LEADER SAYS HE HAS A PLAN TO STOP ASYLUM SEEKERS FROM ENTERING CANADA AT IRREGULAR SPOTS. INCLUDING THIS ONE ON ROXHAM ROAD WHERE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE HAVE CROSSED INTO THE COUNTRY.>>Andrew Scheer: FOR CANADIANS TO HAVE FAITH IN THE IMMIGRATION SYSTEM, THE RULES HAVE TO BE FOLLOWED AND THE LAWS HAVE TO BE ENFORCED.>>Reporter: SCHEER SAYS THAT HE’LL HIRE 250 MORE BORDER AGENTS AND MOVE IMMIGRATION JUDGES TO PLACES WHERE THERE’S AN INFLUX OF CROSSINGS. BUT THE BIGGEST PART OF THE PLAN DEPENDS ON CONVINCING DONALD TRUMP TO ACCEPT MORE REFUGEES BY CLOSING A LOOPHOLE UNDER THE CURRENT BORDER AGREEMENT. THE LIBERALS HAVE TRIED TO START THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH LITTLE SUCCESS.>>Rt. Hon. Justin Trudeau: WE CONTINUE TO ENGAGE WITH THEM ON MEASURES THAT WILL STRENGTHEN OUR COOPERATION.>>Reporter: SCHEER DIDN’T SAY HOW HE’D WIN OVER THE WHITE HOUSE, BUT HE LEANED ON A TRUMP ADMINISTRATION ARGUMENT TO ADD URGENCY TO HIS PITCH.>>Andrew Scheer: WE’LL ALSO CLOSELY MONITOR THOSE CONSIDERED TO BE A THREAT FOR CRIMINALITY, ESPECIALLY MS-13 GANG MEMBERS.>>Reporter: TRUMP REGULARLY MENTIONED THAT LATIN AMERICAN GANG WHEN DRUMS UP SUPPORT FOR HIS BORDER WALL.>>President Donald Trump: WE DON’T WANT MURDERERS AND DRUG DEALERS AND GANG MEMBERS AND M.S.13 AND SOME OF THE WORST PEOPLE IN THE WORLD, COMING INTO OUR COUNTRY.>>Reporter: WHEN ASKED FOR PROOF MS-13 MEMBERS ARE CROSSING INTO CANADA, THE CONSERVATIVES POINTED TO JUST TWO NEWSPAPER ARTICLES FROM 2018.>>Andrew Scheer: WE ARE PUTTING THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF CANADIANS FIRST.>>Reporter: TRUDEAU SAYS THAT SECURITY IS ALREADY THE PRIORITY AND THE INFORMAL SET-UP AT ROXHAM ROAD IS PROOF.>>Rt. Hon. Justin Trudeau: THEY GET FUEL SECURITY SCREENS. THEY GET PLACED INTO OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM AND GO THROUGH EVERY STEP OF OUR IMMIGRATION PROCESS.>>Reporter: IMMIGRATION IS A BIG ISSUE IN QUÉBEC. SO IT’S NOT SURPRISING THAT SCHEER IS RAISING THESE CONCERNS AHEAD OF TOMORROW’S FRENCH-LANGUAGE DEBATE. KATIE SIMPSON, CBC NEWS, GATINEAU, QUÉBEC.>>Adrienne: NOW SINCE 2017, MORE THAN 50,000 PEOPLE HAVE CROSSED INTO CANADA AT ROXHAM ROAD. ABOUT A THIRD HAVE BEEN PROCESSED SO FAR UNDER THE NATIONAL REFUGEE SYSTEM. OF THOSE, 55% HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED AS REFUGEES AND THE OTHER 45% HAVE BEEN REJECTED.>>>A LONG-TIME LIBERAL CANDIDATE IS APOLOGIZING TONIGHT FOR A STATEMENT SHE NOW ACKNOWLEDGES IS OFFENSIVE. JUDY SGRO WAS IT SEEMS TRYING TO DEFEND JUSTIN TRUDEAU IN THE WAKE OF THE BLACK AND BROWNFACE SCANDAL, AND AS SALIMAH SHIVJI TELLS US, SGRO SAYS THAT BLACK PEOPLE TELL HER THAT THEY LOVE TRUDEAU EVEN MORE NOW.>>YOU ARE ALL WELCOME TO THE ORDINARY PEOPLE SHOW.>>Reporter: AN INTERVIEW DONE NEARLY TWO WEEKS AGO ON A COMMUNITY SHOW THAT IS ONLY NOW GETTING ATTENTION.>>ALL OF US WERE YOUNG AT ONE TIME.>>Reporter: THE LONG-TIME LIBERAL JUDY SGRO DEFENDING HER LEADER FOR WEARING BLACKFACE AND THEN THAT DEFENCE TOOK A TURN.>>THOSE IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY HAVE TOLD ME HOW MUCH MORE LOVE THEY HAVE FOR THE PRIME MINISTER. THAT HE WANTED TO HAVE A BLACKFACE. HE TOOK GREAT PRIDE IN THAT TOO. AND THAT IT’S THE MEDIA THAT HAVE BLOWN THIS INTO SOMETHING THAT IT SHOULDN’T BE.>>Reporter: THE HOST DIDN’T REACT MUCH, BUT TODAY SOCIAL MEDIA DID AND SO DID THE N.D.P.’S JAGMEET SINGH.>>Jagmeet Singh: IT IS LUDICROUS FOR HER TO SUGGEST THAT. IT IS EMBARRASSING AND IT IS SHAMEFUL. THAT SHOWS A MASSIVE DISCONNECT BETWEEN THE LIBERAL PARTY AND, IN FACT, MR. TRUDEAU AND WHAT REAL PEOPLE ARE LIVING AND WHAT THEY’RE EXPERIENCING.>>Reporter: THEN CAME AN APOLOGY FROM SGRO. “THE COMMENTS I MADE WERE INSENSITIVE. I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER AND I APOLOGISE. THE HISTORY OF BLACKFACE IS DEEPLY RACIST, AND IT IS NOTHING OTHER THAN DISCRIMINATORY.” SHE’S PROMISING TO SPEAK WITH HER CONSTITUENTS MORE AND TO TREAT THE ISSUE WITH SENSITIVITY. BUT THE CANDIDATE’S MISSTEP IS JUST AS JUSTIN TRUDEAU WAS ALSO AGAIN ADDRESSING WHY HE WORE BLACKFACE IN THE PAST.>>WHY DID YOU PAINT YOUR FACE BROWN?>>Reporter: THIS TIME WITH KIDS ON A SHOW AIMED AT MOMS.>>Rt. Hon. Justin Trudeau: I’M SORRY THAT I HURT PEOPLE.>>DID YOU KNOW?>>Rt. Hon. Justin Trudeau: AND IT WAS THE WRONG THING TO DO.>>Reporter: AS THE LIBERALS WERE HOPING THAT THE CONTROVERSY WOULD FADE AWAY WITH ELECTION DAY FAST APPROACHING. SALIMAH SHIVJI, CBC NEWS, OTTAWA.>>Adrienne: TO SYRIA NOW WHERE TURKEY IS MAKING ITS MOVE AND THE WORLD IS WATCHING. THE MUCH FEARED OFFENSIVE AGAINST THE KURDISH FIGHTERS IN NORTHEASTERN SYRIA HAS BEGUN. WITH AIRSTRIKES, ARTILLERY AND GROUND TROOPS, TURKEY PUSHED INTO A ZONE TODAY WHERE SO MUCH COULD GO WRONG. THIS IS HOME NOT JUST TO CIVILIANS AND KURDISH FORCES, BUT TO THE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF ISIS FIGHTERS THEY DETAINED WHILE FIGHTING ALONGSIDE U.S. TROOPS. AND AS SUSAN ORMISTON EXPLAINS, THAT U.S. CONNECTION IS CENTRAL TO HOW THINGS ARE PLAYING OUT.>>Reporter: TURKISH TANKS AT THE SYRIAN BORDER, WHAT PRESIDENT ERDOGAN HAS LONG WANTED — AN ATTACK AGAINST THEIR KURDISH ENEMY. BUT A KEY U.S. ALLY, IT IS A POWDER KEG KICKED OFF BY THE U.S. PRESIDENT’S SUDDEN PLAN TO PULL OUT U.S. FORCES.>>President Donald Trump: I HOPE THAT HE WILL ACT RATIONALLY.>>Reporter: PRESIDENT TRUMP IS NOW TRYING TO WARN TURKEY NOT TO WIPE OUT KURDS.>>President Donald Trump: I WILL WIPE OUT HIS ECONOMY IF THAT HAPPENS. I HAVE ALREADY DONE IT ONCE.>>Reporter: BUT EVEN STAUNCH REPUBLICAN ALLIES ARE OFFSIDE.>>IF HE FOLLOWS THROUGH WITH THIS IT WOULD BE THE BIGGEST MISTAKE OF HIS PRESIDENCY.>>Reporter: KURDISH-LED FORCE, WITH WHO THE U.S.’ HELP TO DEFEAT ISIS, ARE NOW ON THE OFFENSIVE AND TALK ABOUT BETRAYAL AND ABANDONMENT. PANICKED CIVILIANS HAVE BEGUN AN EXODUS, SCRAMBLING TO GET OUT.>>[speaking foreign language]>>Reporter: “WE LEFT OUR VILLAGE,” SAYS THIS MAN, “FEARING OUR CHILDREN MIGHT GET HURT IN THE SHELLING.” TONIGHT MULTIPLE WARPLANES DISPATCHED AGAIN AS TURKEY CARRIES OUT ITS MISSION. ERDOGAN’S GENERALS WANT TO CLEAR A WIDE CORRIDOR, CREATE A BUFFER BETWEEN THEM AND KURDISH MILITIAS WHOM THEY CALL TERRORISTS AND THEN RESETTLE SYRIAN REFUGEES.>>[speaking foreign language]>>Reporter: ERDOGAN SAYS “CIVILIANS WON’T BE TARGETED BUT MANY DON’T BELIEVE HIM.” AND THEY FEAR WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF CAPTURED ISIS FIGHTERS AND THEIR FAMILIES GUARDED BY KURDISH-LED FORCES WHO ARE NOW UNDER ATTACK. PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS LONG WANTED OUT OF SYRIA, SAYING TODAY THAT THE U.S. BEING PULLED INTO THE MIDDLE EAST WAS, QUOTE “THE WORST MISTAKE IN U.S. HISTORY.” BUT HIS CRITICS SAY THAT THIS MOVE, UNPLANNED AND HASTY, HAS HELPED TO PLUNGE THE REGION FURTHER INTO CHAOS. SUSAN ORMISTON, CBC NEWS, WASHINGTON.>>Adrienne: THE U.N. SECURITY COUNCIL WILL MEET ABOUT THIS TOMORROW BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. AND CANADA HAS JOINED THE LIST OF FOREIGN LEADERS CONDEMNING TURKEY’S MOVE, SAYING THAT IT RISKS UNDERMINING THE STABILITY OF AN ALREADY FRAGILE REGION. AS KAREN PAULS SHOWS US, KURDISH CANADIANS ARE WATCHING WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH FEAR AND ANGER.>>ALL OF MY FAMILY, AND ALL OF MY BROTHERS AND RELATIVES, EVERYBODY.>>Reporter: IT WASN’T QUITE BUSINESS AS USUAL AT THIS TORONTO HAIR SALON.>>THIS IS A HUMANITY THING.>>Reporter: THE SISTERS ARE TRYING TO FOCUS ON THEIR CUSTOMERS BUT STRUGGLING.>>I JUST SAT DOWN AND I CRIED AND I COULDN’T WORK.>>Reporter: GLUED TO THE NEWS OF THE TURKISH ATTACKS AND TRYING TO REACH FAMILY AND FRIENDS WHO LIVE NEAR THE SYRIAN BORDER. FINALLY GETTING THROUGH.>>EVERYBODY PANICKING AND SCREAMING. AND EVERYBODY IS CRYING.>>Reporter: THEY CANCELLED THEIR EVENING APPOINTMENTS SO THEY COULD GET TO THE RALLY AT THE U.S. EMBASSY.>>WE CANNOT WATCH THESE INNOCENT PEOPLE –>>WE EXPECTED CANADA TO TAKE THE ABILITY TO USE THEIR VOICE IN THE MIDDLE.>>Reporter: THERE WAS A SIMILAR SCENE OUTSIDE OF THE U.S. EMBASSY IN VANCOUVER. THE MEMBERS OF THE KURDISH COMMUNITY WANTED TO DELIVER A LETTER.>>WE’RE HERE TO TELL DONALD TRUMP THAT ALLIES DON’T MAKE UNILATERAL DECISIONS AND LEAVE BEHIND THE PEOPLE WHO GAVE THOUSANDS OF LIVES.>>Reporter: THIS RALLY WAS PLANNED DAYS AGO. TODAY’S NEWS ADDED EXTRA URGENCY.>>THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO FLEE THE ZONE AND WE HAVE — WE HAVE THE YOUNG PEOPLE ARE MOBILIZING TO GO FIGHT.>>Reporter: THIS KURDISH MAN AND HIS FAMILY CAME TO CANADA JUST LAST YEAR AS PRIVATELY SPONSORED REFUGEES. HE’S WORRIED ABOUT HIS 80-YEAR-OLD MOTHER LEFT BEHIND.>>WE ARE WAITING FOR REALLY, WHAT WE HOPE IS THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT TO CHANGE THEIR MINDS.>>Reporter: KURDISH-CANADIANS SAY THEY FEEL BETRAYED BY THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT. IF THEY CAN’T COUNT ON THEIR ALLIES, WHO CAN THEY TRUST? AND WHO WILL STEP IN TO PREVENT WHAT THEY WORRY WILL BECOME A HUMANITARIAN DISASTER? KAREN PAULS, CBC NEWS, VANCOUVER.>>Adrienne: THERE IS SHOCK TONIGHT IN GERMANY WHERE A GUNMAN KILLED TWO PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF A SYNAGOGUE. THIS IS YOM KIPPUR, JUDAISM’S HOLEST DAY. AND AS THOMAS DAIGLE TELL US, THE ATTACKER TRIED AND FAILED TO BREAK THROUGH THE LOCKED DOOR BEHIND WHICH ROUGHLY 80 PEOPLE WERE PRAYING.>>Reporter: DRESSED IN COMBAT GEAR, PARKED OUTSIDE OF A SYNAGOGUE, HE TRIED TO BREAK INTO, THE GUNMAN CALMLY RE-LOADS AND OPENS FIRE AGAIN. (gunshots) IN THE CITY OF HALLE, GERMANY, ON JUDAISM’S HOLIEST DAY, THE GUNFIRE KILLING ONE WOMAN AS THE WITNESS CAPTURES THE VIOLENCE ON VIDEO. THE ATTACKER ALSO RECORDING HIS RAMPAGE, USING A CAMERA STRAPPED TO THAT HELMET. HIS VIDEO IS STREAMED LIVE ONLINE AND VIEWED AT LEAST 2,200 TIMES BEFORE IT WAS REMOVED.>>[speaking foreign language]>>Reporter: “I SAW A MAN WEARING ARMY CLOTHES WITH A GUN OVER HIS SHOULDER,” THIS WITNESS SAYS. “HE WAS THROWING THINGS OVER THE WALL OF THE SYNAGOGUE CEMETERY AND THEN THERE WERE TWO EXPLOSIONS.” POLICE RESPONDED WITH PLENTY OF FORCE, BUT THE GUNMAN HAD ALREADY CLAIMED ANOTHER VICTIM WHILE SHOOTING AT A KABOB TAKEOUT. AS INVESTIGATORS SPENT THE NIGHT COMBING THE SCENE, AUTHORITIES CONFIRMED AN ARREST. A 27-YEAR-OLD GERMAN NATIONAL WHO HAD APPARENTLY BLAMED THE WORLD’S PROBLEMS ON JEWS. (*) (singing). THIS EVENING GERMAN CHANCELLOR ANGELA MERKEL JOINED JEWISH WORSHIPPERS IN BERLIN. THIS DARK DAY A REMINDER OF THE COUNTRY’S HATEFUL PAST AND A SIGN THAT ANTI-SEMITISM IS HARDLY HISTORY. THOMAS DAIGLE, CBC NEWS, TORONTO.>>Adrienne: CBC NEWS IS INVESTIGATING HATE CRIMES HERE IN CANADA. OUR IN-DEPTH COVERAGE COMING UP IN ABOUT 15 MINUTES.>>>A WARNING TONIGHT FROM HEALTH CANADA ABOUT A POPULAR BACKYARD FEATURE, ETHANOL-BURNING FIREPOTS. THEY DON’T PRODUCE SMOKE AND THEY CAN BE USED IN PLACES THAT WOOD AND GAS-BURNING FIRES CANNOT. AND NOW HEALTH OFFICIALS ACKNOWLEDGE THEY COULD CAUSE FIRES OR SERIOUS BURNS. DIANNE BUCKNER SHOWS US HOW.>>SHE WAS A REAL ARTIST WHEN SHE WAS YOUNG AND SHE WAS GOOD AT DOING ALMOST ANYTHING.>>Reporter: JIM McGORMAN’S WIFE, JUDITH, DIED AFTER A VISIT WITH NEIGHBOURS. THE HOST USED ETHANOL TO FILL A FIREPOT, NOT REALIZING THAT IT WAS STILL BURNING.>>THE GAS CAUGHT ON FIRE, AND IT WENT INTO THE CONTAINER AND IT SPEWED LIKE A FLAME AND MY WIFE WAS SITTING RIGHT THERE.>>Reporter: THAT WAS THREE SUMMERS AGO.>>I DID BECOME VERY ANGRY, VERY ANGRY AT THE FACT THAT THIS COULD OCCUR. ESPECIALLY WHEN I STARTED READING AND LEARNING ABOUT THE FACT THAT THIS WAS NOT NEW.>>Reporter: IT’S CALLED FLAME JETTING. THE ONTARIO FIRE MARSHAL HAS RELEASED THIS VIDEO TO WARN THE PUBLIC.>>THE PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT THE CANDLE IS OUT AND REACH FOR THE FUEL AND PROCEED TO REFILL THE ORNAMENT. AND IT IGNITES THE VAPOURS.>>Reporter: IT’S HAPPENING MORE OFTEN AS THE ETHANOL FIREPLACES AND FIREPOTS HAVE BECOME MORE POPULAR. THIS TORONTO DOCTOR DIED IN JUNE IN A SIMILAR INCIDENT WITH BURNS TO 95% OF HER BODY. IN AUGUST, TWO WOMEN WERE SERIOUSLY INJURED IN TORONTO, THEY’RE STILL IN HOSPITAL. AND JUST THREE WEEKS AGO ANOTHER INCIDENT INJURED A YOUNG WOMAN AND HER BABY NIECE.>>PEOPLE AREN’T GOING TO USE THESE PRODUCTS PERFECTLY EVERY TIME.>>Reporter: LAWYER JOHN McLEISH HAS LAUNCHED A $ LAWSUIT ON BEHALF OF JIM 14 MILLION McGORMAN.>>WE HAVE SEVEN CASES IN THE OFFICE INVOLVING ETHANOL, BLOW TORCH INCIDENCES WHERE SOMEONE WAS BADLY INJURED OR KILLED.>>Reporter: JIM McGORMAN AND OTHERS AFFECTED BY THESE DEVICES HAVE BANDED TOGETHER TO PRESSURE HEALTH CANADA TO TAKE ACTION.>>THERE SHOULD BE A MORATORIUM ON THE SALE OF THESE FIREPLACES.>>Reporter: THE MANUFACTURERS ARGUE THAT THE DEVICES ARE SAFE AS LONG AS THEY’RE OPERATED AND FUELLED PROPERLY. THE COMPANY FACING THAT $14 MILLION LAWSUIT TELLS CBC NEWS THAT IT’S NO LONGER ACTIVE IN THE BUSINESS. DIANNE BUCKNER, CBC NEWS, PETERBOROUGH, ONTARIO.>>Adrienne: ALL RIGHT, MORE NEWS AHEAD TONIGHT ON “THE NATIONAL”…>>>A FAMILY SHARES THE STORY OF THEIR DAUGHTER’S DEATH AND HOPING THAT OTHERS WILL NOT DIE IN A SIMILAR FIRE.>>>LATER, WHY DOCTORS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE LATEST CANNABIS PRODUCTS ABOUT TO BE LEGAL IN CANADA.>>Ian: AND THE FALLOUT FROM ANOTHER CHAOTIC COMMUTE IN OTTAWA. THOUSANDS ARE LEFT STRANDED AGAIN. THE TRANSIT AUTHORITY SAYS THAT COMMUTERS NEED TO DO THEIR PART. BACK IN TWO MI>>Adrienne: THIS WEEK “THE NATIONAL” IS INVESTIGATING ILLEGAL RENTAL UNITS. NOW THEY CAN BE HARD TO SPOT FROM THE OUTSIDE, BUT INSIDE SOME ARE DOWNRIGHT DANGEROUS. SIX YEARS AGO ALISHA LAMERS WAS KILLED, TRAPPED WHEN AN INFERNO BROKE OUT IN HER BASEMENT APARTMENT, ONE FULL OF SAFETY VIOLATIONS. AND AS KATIE NICHOLSON TELLS US, NOW HER PARENTS FIGHT WITH JUSTICE WITH THE COURTS.>>YOU’RE STRONG.>>I HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE.>>I KNOW.>>Reporter: SIX YEARS AFTER HER DEATH, ALISHA LAMERS’ PARENTS CAN STILL FEEL HER PRESENCE AT THE BASE OF HER FAVOURITE TREE.>>I HAVE A PICTURE OF HER ON THAT BRANCH THERE LEANING DOWN SHE USED TO CALL THIS THE ENCHANTED TREE. I GOT A CALL IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, IT WAS ABOUT 3:30 IN THE MORNING. IT WAS A DETECTIVE TO TELL ME THAT ALISHA HAD BEEN IN A FIRE.>>Reporter: FIREFIGHTERS FOUND THE 24-YEAR-OLD ON THE FLOOR NEXT TO HER BED IN THE BASEMENT SUITE. SECOND AND THIRD-DEGREE BURNS COVERED 45% OF HER BODY. FOUR DAYS LATER SHE WAS DECLARED BRAIN DEAD.>>HER FUTURE WAS SNUFFED OUT FROM HER.>>Reporter: INVESTIGATORS NEVER PINPOINTED A CAUSE, BUT DISCOVERED NUMEROUS SAFETY VIOLATIONS. THE 2 1/2 STOREY HOUSE HAD BEEN ILLEGALLY CONVERTED INTO SEVEN SUITES. THERE WAS JUST ONE WORKING SMOKE DETECTOR ON THE SECOND FLOOR. LAMERS COULDN’T ESCAPE THROUGH HER BEDROOM WINDOW BECAUSE OF THICK IRON BARS. THE LANDLORD, KONSTANTIN LYSENKO, WAS FINED $75,000 FOR FIRE CODE VIOLATIONS.>>ONCE YOU HAVE AN ILLEGAL APARTMENT THAT KILLS SOMEONE, HOW COULD YOU WALK AWAY WITHOUT ANY CRIMINAL CHARGES?>>Reporter: NOW HER PARENTS ARE TRYING TO EXTRACT JUSTICE FROM THE CIVIL COURTS. SUING LYSENKO FOR $5 MILLION. LYSENKO DECLINED TO SPEAK WITH CBC NEWS AND IN A STATEMENT OF DEFENCE HE SAID THAT LAMERS WAS FULLY AWARE OF THE CONDITION OF HER APARTMENT AND FAILED TO EXERCISE DUE CARE FOR HER OWN SAFETY.>>I HAVE SEEN UPWARDS OF 27, 28 INDIVIDUALS IN A ROOMING HOUSE AT ONE TIME.>>Reporter: IN A YEAR SINCE THE FIRE THAT TOOK LAMERS’ LIFE, THE FIRE SERVICE CHARGED 226 ROOMING HOUSE OPERATORS WITH FIRE CODE INFRACTIONS.>>I CLOSED ONE DOWN ON FRIDAY OF LAST WEEK — I CAN’T GET INTO DETAILS — BUT THERE WERE SIGNIFICANT FIRE SAFETY ISSUES.>>Reporter: LAMERS’ PARENTS HOPE THAT THEIR LAWSUIT ALSO SENDS A MESSAGE TO ILLEGAL ROOMING HOUSE OPERATORS.>>I WOULD NEVER WANT TO SEE WHAT THAT HAPPENED TO ALISHA TO HAPPEN TO ANYBODY. I WOULD NEVER WANT TO SEE ANOTHER PARENT HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PAIN THAT WE HAVE GONE THROUGH BY LOSING HER.>>Reporter: KATIE NICHOLSON, CBC NEWS, TORONTO.>>Adrienne: LET’S GET TO IAN IN OUR NATIONAL NEWSROOM IN VANCOUVER. HE’S TRACKING OTHER STORIES FOR US.>>Ian: ADRIENNE, LET’S BEGIN IN SOUTHERN ONTARIO, WHERE SIX MEN ARE FACING CHARGES WITH A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR THEFT RING IN THE TORONTO AREA. PEEL TO SHOWED AN ARM GROUP BACK IN JULY. THE THIEVES WERE INTERCEPTING THE SHIPMENTS OF ELECTRONICS AT GUN POINT. AND MAKING OFF WITH NEARLY $7 MILLION WORTH OF CELLPHONES AND TABLETS. THEY BELIEVE THAT THE GROUP HAS BEEN OPERATING SINCE AT LEAST 2018.>>>IT WAS YET ANOTHER DAY OF COMMUTER CHAOS ABOARD OTTAWA’S NEW LIGHT-RAIL TRANSIT SYSTEM.>>COMICAL AT THIS POINT. IT’S DAY THREE AND THIS HAS HAPPENED ALREADY A SECOND TIME. LIKE, THIS IS RIDICULOUS.>>Ian: A MALFUNCTIONING TRAIN DOOR AGAIN CAUSED SYSTEM-WIDE DELAYS, LEAVING THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE STRANDED DURING THE MORNING COMMUTE. THE OFFICIALS SAY THAT ADJUSTMENTS ARE BEING MADE TO AVOID DELAYS LIKE THE ONES WE HAVE SEEN THIS WEEK. WHILE THE CONSIDER IS CONSIDERING FINING PASSENGERS WHO ARE CAUGHT PRYING TRAIN DOORS OPEN.>>>AND RECORD-BREAKING WATER LEVELS HAVE HAD OFFICIALS OPENING UP THE FLOODWAY FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER IN THE FALL. HEAVY RAIN IN SEPTEMBER HAS RESULTED IN HIGHER-THAN-NORMAL RIVER LEVELS FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR. WITH MORE RAIN AND SNOW EXPECTED IN THE COMING DAYS, THE FLOODWAY IS BEING ACTIVATED AS A PRECAUTION TO TRY TO KEEP THE RIVER LEVELS LOW IN WINNIPEG.>>>MILLIONS OF PEOPLE REMAIN WITHOUT POWER AGAIN TONIGHT IN CALIFORNIA IN AN ATTEMPT TO PREVENT WILDFIRES. THAT’S ONE OF THE DEVELOPING STORIES THAT WE’LL HAVE FOR YOU IN 20 MINUTES.>>Adrienne: AND UP NEXT WE KICK OFF A NEW CBC NEWS PROJECT, EXPOSING HATE IN CANADA. WE WILL TAKE YOU TO A CITY STRUGGLING WITH THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF REPORTED HATE CRIMES IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY FOR A LOOK AT HOW IT COULD BE A CAUTIONARY TALE FOR OTHER COMMUNITIES ACROSS CANADA. (*) (*)>>Adrienne: THERE WERE NEARLY 1,800 HATE CRIMES REPORTED TO CANADIAN POLICE LAST YEAR, BUT THAT NUMBER MAY NOT TELL THE WHOLE STORY. TODAY CBC NEWS IS LAUNCHING A PROJECT CALLED “EXPOSING HATE.” THAT’S A COMMITMENT TO UNDERSTANDING THE NATURE OF HATE IN THIS COUNTRY. AND WE START BY LOOKING AT WHAT QUALIFIES AS A HATE CRIME TO BEGIN WITH. AS CHRIS GLOVER SHOWS US, THE ANSWER DEPENDS ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.>>I NOTICED THE WORD RIGHT THERE. AND I LITERALLY JUST FROZE.>>Reporter: KIEL HUGHES SHOWS WHERE ON HIS CAR HE FOUND THE “N” WORD AND THE WORD “DIE” ETCHED IN THE SNOW IN 2017.>>I’M NOT SURE IF I FELT AFRAID, CONCERNED, ANGRY, UPSET.>>Reporter: IT WAS ONE OF TWO TIMES THAT HE REPORTED A HATE CRIME TO HAMILTON POLICE. STILL, HE IS SURPRISED THAT HIS CITY’S RATE OF POLICE REPORTED HATE CRIMES IS MORE THAN THREE TIMES THE NATIONAL AVERAGE.>>THAT BOGGLES MY MIND HEARING THAT.>>Reporter: POLICE DEPARTMENTS IN CANADA TRACK THE NUMBER OF HATE INCIDENTS, BUT CBC NEWS HAS LEARNED THAT THEY’RE NOT ALL ON THE SAME PAGE WITH WHAT QUALIFIES AS A HATE CRIME. FOR INSTANCE, EDMONTON POLICE AND SEVERAL OTHERS THAT WE SURVEYED DON’T SPECIFICALLY INCLUDE GENDER IDENTITY IN THEIR DEFINITION. IN THUNDER BAY AND THREE OTHERS, THE LANGUAGE INCLUDES VICTIMS PERCEIVED TO BE PART OF A PROTECTED GROUP. SO IF SOMEONE IS ATTACKED FOR BEING MUSLIM BUT IS, IN FACT, NOT, THAT IS STILL COUNTED AS A HATE CRIME. AND QUÉBEC’S PROVINCIAL POLICE DOESN’T HAVE A FORMAL DEFINITION AT ALL.>>ONE WORD DIFFERENCE COULD MAKE A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE.>>Reporter: FORMER HATE INVESTIGATOR STEPHEN CAMP SAYS THAT THE DATA DOESN’T SHOW HOW HIGH THE NUMBERS IN CANADA REALLY ARE.>>IT’S INSUFFICIENT RESOURCING AND INSUFFICIENT POLICIES AND LESS. — LEGISLATION.>>Reporter: HE SAYS THAT CANADA NEEDS A UNIVERSAL HATE CRIME DEFINITION AND BELIEVES THAT IT NEEDS TO BE A SPECIFIC CHARGE IN THE CRIMINAL CODE AND NOT JUST A FACTOR IN SENTENCING AS IT IS NOW.>>THAT CAN CAUSE FRACTURES BETWEEN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE PUBLIC WHEN THEY FEEL THAT IT’S A HATE CRIME WHEN IT’S NOT. AND, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN IT’S A HATE CRIME AND POLICE DO NOT IDENTIFY IT AS A HATE CRIME.>>ON THIS UPPER PART OF THE DOOR…>>Reporter: NO ONE WAS EVER ARRESTED FOR THE SLUR LEFT ON HIS CAR.>>IT’S NOT AN EASY FEELING.>>Reporter: HUGHES SAYS AS A MAN WHO IS BLACK AND GAY, HE WORRIES THAT HE’S A TARGET FOR HATE, EVEN WHEN HE’S SIMPLY WALKING DOWNTOWN.>>LITERALLY EVERY TIME THAT I’M DOWN HERE I’M ALWAYS LOOKING OVER MY SHOULDER.>>Adrienne: SO, CHRIS, I GATHER THAT YOU REACHED OUT TO THE FEDERAL PARTIES.>>Reporter: THE N.D.P. AND THE GREENS GO ONE STEP FURTHER AND THEY SAY THAT IF ELECTED THEY’D COMMIT TO CREATING A UNIVERSAL DEFINITION FOR POLICE FORCES IN THIS COUNTRY WHEN IT COMES TO HATE CRIMES.>>Adrienne: SO I GET THE ISSUES WITH DATA COLLECTION PROBLEMS AND CLASSIFICATION, BUT, STILL, WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT HAMILTON, YOU’RE STILL LOOKING AT THREE TIMES THE NATIONAL AVERAGE. SO HOW IS THAT HAPPENING?>>Reporter: WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT HAMILTON IS A CITY THAT IS STRUGGLING TO FIND A BALANCE BETWEEN FREE SPEECH AND HATE SPEECH. AND THE PROBLEMS AND WHAT WE’RE SEEING IN HAMILTON IS A CAUTIONARY TALE FOR OTHER CANADIAN CITIES AS THEY ALSO TRY TO DECIPHER WHEN POLITICAL ARGUMENTS TURN DEEPLY PERSONAL.>>YOU’RE JUST A NAZI.>>TRYING TO WHIP UP HATRED.>>Reporter: THIS IS HAMILTON, WEEK AFTER WEEK FOR MONTHS.>>[indiscernible]>>Reporter: SHOUTING MATCHES FILLING THE CITY STREETS WITH HATE.>>THESE PEOPLE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR CITY. WE SAY IMMIGRANTS IN AND NAZIS OUT.>>Reporter: LOCAL OFFICIALS ACCUSED OF NOT GOING FAR ENOUGH TO CONDEMN IT.>>I CAN’T JUST LET THEM GO UNOPPOSED AND IGNORING THEM MADE IT WORSE. MORE OF THEM SHOWED UP. YOU CAN SEE THEY’RE COMING FROM OTHER CITIES. THEY’RE IMPORTING HATE.>>YOU ARE OPENLY PROMOTING HATE.>>WE DON’T BELIEVE IN GAY SUPREMACY.>>GO HOME!>>Reporter: THE BOILING POINT — PRIDE THIS PAST JUNE. VIOLENCE BETWEEN ANTI-GAY PROTESTERS AND THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY. AND ANTICIPATING THE ATTACK, SOME ON BOTH SIDES CAME READY FOR A FIGHT. POLICE WERE ACCUSED OF LETTING THIS PLAY OUT. IT WASN’T UNTIL 10 DAYS LATER THAT ANYONE WAS CHARGED WITH ASSAULT.>>I AM HUMILIATED AND I’M HORRIFIED. IT’S CRUSHING.>>Reporter: ALL THESE MONTHS LATER THE FORMER HEAD OF PRIDE CAN’T BEAR TO WATCH THE ATTACK.>>NO MORE, NO MORE.>>Reporter: SHE SAYS THAT DAY WAS A TURNING POINT FOR THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY WHO BELIEVE THAT POLICE CAN NO LONGER BE TRUSTED TO PROTECT THEM.>>BIGOTS AGAINST THE BIBLE…>>I DON’T LIKE WALKING AROUND LIKE I’M A VICTIM 24/7 BUT THAT’S HOW YOU FEEL. YOU FEEL THAT THERE’S A TARGET ON YOUR BACK AND THERE AREN’T GOING TO BE PEOPLE COMING TO HELP YOU WHO SHOULD BE COMING TO HELP YOU.>>Reporter: POLICE CHIEF ERIC GERT ARGUES THAT UNLESS FREE SPEECH LAWS CHANGE HIS OFFICERS ARE HANDCUFFED. BUT IT WAS A CONTROVERSIAL EXAMPLE HE USED RECENTLY TO MAKE HIS POINT THAT SHOCKED MANY HERE. THIS IS HIM SPEAKING ON A LOCAL RADIO SHOW.>>THE RECENT AMENDMENTS TO THE CRIMINAL CODE THAT HAVE FINALLY REMOVED ANAL INTERCOURSE AS A PROHIBITED ACTIVITY. FINALLY. AND THAT’S AFTER YEARS AND YEARS OF PETITIONING. SO WHEN YOU HAVE CONSENTING ADULTS ENGAGED IT WAS FINE. IF YOU HAVE CONDITIONS WHERE THE YOUTH ARE INVOLVED, THAT’S A WHOLE OTHER BALL OF WAX.>>Reporter: TWO DAYS LATER HE APOLOGISED. DO YOU FEEL THAT YOU’RE HELPING OR HURTING THE RELATIONS BETWEEN POLICE AND THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY?>>OUR INTENT IS TO MOVE THE DIALOGUE FORWARD. WE UNDERSTAND THE HURT TO THIS COMMUNITY. IT’S A REASON THAT I APOLOGISED FOR THE COMMENTS. I’M NOT LOOKING TO HURT THE COMMUNITY ANYMORE WHO WANT TO MOVE IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION.>>THANK YOU, SIR, WELCOME.>>THANK YOU. I LIVE AND WORK IN HAMILTON.>>Reporter: A RARE CHANCE TO VOICE THE PAIN OF MONTHS OF FEELING TARGETED.>>THIS EVOKED THE MOST HARMFUL, DAMAGING AND OFFENSIVE STEREOTYPES THAT HAVE BEEN USED THROUGHOUT HISTORY TO PERSECUTE AND DEMONIZE, HUMILIATE, IMPRISON, MURDER, TORTURE, DENY HOUSING AND EMPLOYMENT AND DENY HUMAN RIGHTS TO GAY AND LESBIAN PEOPLE.>>THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEPUTATION. MUCH APPRECIATED.>>Reporter: THAT IS HAMILTON’S MAYOR, FRED EISENBERGER.>>YOU’RE IN MY COUNTRY…>>Reporter: HIS COUNCIL HAS BEEN EXPLORING LEGAL OPTIONS FOR REMOVING THE PROTESTERS. BUT SO FAR NOTHING HAS CHANGED. GARNERING THANK YOUS FROM SOME WHO DEFEND THEIR VIEWS AS FREE SPEECH.>>[CHANTING]>>Reporter: AND CONDEMNATION FROM THOSE WHO SAY THAT THE MAYOR IS ALLOWING HATE SPEECH.>>I WILL HAVE YOU TO BE REMOVED FROM HERE. CAN YOU STOP?>>[indiscernible]>>THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I APPRECIATE IT. WOULD YOU PLEASE STOP THE COUNCIL MEETING.>>Reporter: WHEN PRESSED ABOUT WHO OR WHAT HE’S AGAINST, THE MAYOR REFUSES TO GET SPECIFIC.>>YOU KNOW, I’VE DENOUNCED ANY AND ALL HATE GROUPS AND ANYONE THAT ACTS OUT VIOLENTLY AND IS TARGETING INDIVIDUALS IN TERMS OF VIOLENCE OR HATE. WE DENOUNCE THEM ALL. I’M NOT CATEGORIZING ONE GROUP AGAINST ANOTHER AND NEVER HAVE DONE THAT AND I WON’T EVER DO THAT. WE’LL DENOUNCE THEM ALL AND WE’LL WORK AGAINST THEM ALL AND WE’LL TRY TO SUPPORT THE ORGINISATIONS THAT ARE TARGETS OF THOSE KINDS OF ISSUES. AND THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR THIS LOVELY INTERVIEW. THANKS. CHEERS.>>I THINK THAT HAMILTON COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAVE HEARD WAY TOO MANY STATEMENTS THAT SEEM VERY MUCH LIKE ABOUT BOTH SIDES AND ESTABLISHING DIALOGUE AND NOT NEARLY ENOUGH STATEMENTS ABOUT HATE IS NOT ACCEPTABLE HERE. THESE PROTESTERS DON’T REPRESENT MY VIEWS. THESE ARE VERY DANGEROUS AND THAT WE NEED TO TAKE THEM VERY SERIOUSLY.>>Reporter: McMASTER UNIVERSITY SOCIOLOGIST TINA FETNER STUDIES HATE GROUPS. SHE SAYS THAT CIVIC LEADERS MUST POINTEDLY CALL OUT HATE, EARLY AND OFTEN.>>I THINK THAT IT’S VERY IMPORTANT FOR HAMILTON TO BE A CAUTIONARY TALE FOR OTHER CITIES. I’M VERY CERTAIN THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE KNOCKING AT THE DOOR OF OTHER CITIES ACROSS CANADA.>>[CHANTING]>>Reporter: AS IF TO PROVE HOW EMBOLDENED ALL SIDES ARE NOW… AN ELDERLY WOMAN WAS SHOUTED AT AND BLOCKED, JUST TRYING TO GET INTO A PEOPLE’S PARTY OF CANADA EVENT. THE LATEST EXAMPLE IN HAMILTON OF HOW QUICKLY HATEFUL VOICES CAN FILL A VOID. AND THE FALLOUT FROM THAT INCIDENT, ADRIENNE, HAS BEEN BIG. ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO WAS SEEN BLOCKING THAT WOMAN IS THE SON OF RESTAURANT OWNERS HERE IN TORONTO. AND THEY SAY THAT THEY GOT DEATH THREATS. AND ACTUALLY THEY CLOSED UP SHOP. BUT THEY’RE HOPEFUL THAT THEY’LL BE ABLE TO REOPEN. TORONTO POLICE, MEANWHILE, HAVE SPENT SOME PART OF THIS AFTERNOON HANDING OUT ANTI-HATE LEAFLETS, CLEARLY THEY’RE TAKING THIS VERY SERIOUSLY.>>Adrienne: ALL RIGHT, CHRIS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.>>Reporter: THANKS.>>Adrienne: MORE NEWS AHEAD ON “THE NATIONAL”… INCLUDING YOUR HEALTH NEWS AND A CLOSER LOOK AT CONCERNS AS CANADA PREPARES TO LEGALIZE CANNABIS VAPE PRODUCTS. WE’LL SEE YOU IN TWO MINUTES.>>Adrienne: 18 PEOPLE HAVE DIED, MORE THAN A THOUSAND ARE SUFFERING FROM VAPING-RELATED ILLNESSES IN THE UNITED STATES, WHICH MAY BE LINKED TO PRODUCTS CONTAINING T.H.C., THAT’S THE ACTIVE INGREDIENT IN CANNABIS. NEW CANNABIS PRODUCTS, INCLUDING VAPE OILS, WILL BE LEGALIZED IN CANADA NEXT WEEK. AND AS CHRISTINE BIRAK EXPLAINS, THAT HAS DOCTORS VERY WORRIED.>>Reporter: EVEN POT ACTIVIST MATT OLIVER IS UNNERVED BY ALL OF THE VAPING-RELATED ILLNESSES IN THE U.S.>>IT’S AN AWFUL THING, RIGHT? I DON’T THINK THAT PEOPLE ARE BEING WARNED ABOUT WHAT’S IN THE E-LIQUID.>>Reporter: OLIVER’S CONVINCED THAT LEGAL DRY HERB IS NOT THE PROBLEM. HE THINKS THAT HE’S CURRENTLY ILLEGAL CANNABIS VAPE PENS AND OILS AND E-JUICE ARE MAKING PEOPLE SICK. TODAY WE KNOW THAT 77% OF THOSE SICKENED IN THE U.S. VAPED T.H.C., THE CHEMICAL IN CANNABIS, THAT GETS PEOPLE HIGH. IN THIS COUNTRY HUNDREDS OF NEW CANNABIS EDIBLES, EXTRACTS AND OILS WILL BE LEGALIZED OCTOBER 17th. AND ON SALE BY THE END OF THE YEAR.>>RIT NOW WE DON’T KNOW A SPECIFIC PRODUCT OR SUBSTANCE OR EVEN A DEVICE THAT MIGHT BE IMPLICATED.>>Reporter: CANADA’S TOP DOCTOR SAYS THAT ONCE THEY ARE REGULATED THAT NO ADDITIVES WILL BE ALLOWED AND THE HEALTH OFFICIALS WILL KNOW EXACTLY WHAT’S IN THEM. SAYING IF “THERE THERE SHOULD BE ANY ISSUES OR SAFETY CONCERNS IT’S MUCH EASIER TO INVESTIGATE.”>>RIGHT NOW WE DON’T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THE DANGERS.>>Reporter: BUT THE AMERICAN AUTHORITIES SAY THEY’RE NOT SURE THAT LEGAL VAPE PRODUCTS SOLD BY LICENSED STORES ARE ANY SAFE — SAFER, WHICH IS WHY SOME ARE ASKING, WHY IS HEALTH CANADA LEGALIZING PRODUCTS AT THE CENTRE OF A PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS?>>THIS ISN’T THEORETICAL, PEOPLE ARE DYING, PEOPLE ARE REALLY SICK. WE NEED TO PRESS THE PAUSE BUTTON ON THIS.>>Reporter: BASED ON WHAT DOCTORS ARE SEEING THIS RESPIROLOGIST IS SAYING THAT PEOPLE SHOULD QUESTION HEALTH CANADA’S APPROACH.>>IT’S OKAY TO SAY LET’S RELEASE THIS AND LET’S MAKE THIS LEGAL AND ONCE WE HAVE A SPATE OF CASES AND THEN MAYBE SOME PEOPLE WILL DIE, AND WE’LL USE THAT AS A WAY TO GO BACK AND TRACE AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PROBLEM IS. THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT I THINK THAT AS CANADIANS WE EXPECT OF OUR HEALTH REGULATORY AGENCIES, AND THAT’S NOT SOMETHING THAT I THINK THAT THE PUBLIC SHOULD ACCEPT.>>Reporter: MANY PUBLIC HEALTH EXPERTS SAY THAT IF NEW CANNABIS VAPE PRODUCTS ARE TO BE LEGALIZED, THERE NEEDS TO BE STRICTER RULES, INCLUDING LIMITS ON T.H.C. CONCENTRATIONS.>>THAT’S REALLY THE DISCUSSION THAT SHOULD BE HAPPENING AROUND LEGALIZATION. WHICH MEANS WHAT ARE THE PRODUCTS, HOW DO WE REGULATE THEM SO THAT THE CONSUMERS WILL HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THEM AND WE CAN MINIMIZE ANY RISK? QUITE FRANKLY, WE HAVEN’T ACHIEVED THAT YET.>>Reporter: UNTIL THEN, VAPING REMAINS A HIGH-STAKES GAME OF BUYER BEWARE. CHRISTINE BIRAK, CBC NEWS, TORONTO.>>Adrienne: WE’RE BACK IN TWO MINUTES WITH IAN AND MORE NEWS PLUS…>>WHAT ARE THE ISSUES THAT YOU GUYS ARE — THINK ARE YOUR NUMBER ONE ISSUES, THE ONES THAT ARE MOST IMPORTANT THIS ELECTION?>>Adrienne: TALKING POLITICS OVER DINNER IS USUALLY A FAUX PAS BUT NOT FOR THIS GROUP OF STRANGERS.>>Ian: WELCOME BACK. MILLIONS OF CALIFORNIANS ARE IN THE DARK TONIGHT, THAT COULD LAST DAYS, TO AVOID SPARKING WILDFIRES.>>CUTTING THE POWER OFF IS REALLY SERIOUS. SO IF YOU NEED ANY GAS OR ANYTHING RIGHT NOW, YOU SHOULD HAVE GOT THAT YESTERDAY.>>Ian: THE STATE’S LARGEST POWER UTILITY STARTED TO HAVE THE SHUTOFF EARLY THIS MORNING. FORECASTERS ARE WARNING THAT STRONG WINDS AND DRY CONDITIONS ARE INCREASING THE RISK OF FIRES IN THE AREA. LAST YEAR THE COMPANY AGREED TO PAY BILLIONS FOR THEIR PART IN A MASSIVE WILDFIRE.>>>THE FORMER NBC HOST MATT LAUER IS DENYING NEW ALLEGATIONS THAT HE RAPED A FORMER CO-WORKER WHILE COVERING THE 2014 SOCHI OLYMPICS. IT’S DETAILED IN A BOOK BY JOURNALIST RONEN FARROW. HE SPOKE WITH A WOMAN WHOSE CLAIMS LED TO LAUER’S FIRING IN 2017. THE WOMAN ALLEGES THAT LAUER INVITED HER TO HIS HOTEL ROOM AND THEN FORCED HIMSELF ON HER. LAUER RELEASED A STATEMENT SAYING THAT THE ACCUSATION IS FALSE, DESCRIBING THE SEXUAL ENCOUNTER AS CONSENSUAL.>>>AND FOR THE FIRST TIME JOE BIDEN IS CALLING FOR DONALD TRUMP’S IMPEACHMENT.>>THE UNITED STATES CANNOT AFFORD TO HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO WILL ABUSE WHATEVER POWERS ARE AVAILABLE TO HIM TO GET RE-ELECTED. THAT’S WHAT IT’S ALL ABOUT.>>Ian: HOUSE DEMOCRATS LAUNCHED A FORMAL IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY LAST MONTH AFTER A WHISTLEBLOWER COMPLAINT. TRUMP IS ACCUSED OF PRESSURING UKRAINE’S PRESIDENT INTO INVESTIGATING BIDEN AND HIS SON HUNTER. TRUMP DENIES ANY WRONGDOING AND THE WHITE HOUSE IS REFUSING TO COOPERATE.>>>IT’S TIME FOR A QUICK BREAK. NEXT, ANDREW WILL DROP IN ON AN UNUSUAL DINNER PARTY.>>Andrew: SO WHY IS IT THAT YOU DON’T THINK THAT MORE YOUNG PEOPLE ARE ENGAGED?>>Ian: A GROUP OF STRANGERS TALKING PO>>Adrienne: ELECTION DAY IS LESS THAN TWO WEEKS AWAY AND A NON-PARTISAN GROUP HAS PICKED UP A PLAN TO GET MORE YOUNG PEOPLE TO THE POLLS. LAST FEDERAL ELECTION, AMONGST 178 TO 2 24 YEAR OLDS, TURNOUT WAS UNDER 60% AND THAT WAS CONSIDERED HIGHER THAN NORMAL. SO HERE’S WHERE APATHY IS BORING COMES IN — SENDING FREE MEALS TO GROUPS OF YOUNG PEOPLE AND HOPING THAT A LITTLE CONVERSATION STARTER WILL GET THEM TO CARE ABOUT POLITICS. ANDREW JOINED A GROUP IN TORONTO FOR DINNER AND A DISCUSSION. AND SO WE ARE MAKING TOFU AND COUSCOUS, A TOTALLY VEGAN MEAL FROM EXPRESS.>>Andrew: WHOSE IDEA WAS IT TO HAVE THIS DINNER IN THE FIRST PLACE?>>TO DO THE DINNER?>>Andrew: YEAH.>>WELL, WE HAD HEARD ABOUT IT ONLINE. AND IT SEEMED LIKE A PRETTY GOOD DEAL TO GET A FREE DINNER AND TO MAKE FRIENDS AND TALK ABOUT POLITICS AND STUFF. (*)>>Andrew: TONIGHT IS THE NIGHT FOR BREAKING RULES. DINNER WITH FRIENDS? NOPE. THESE PEOPLE DON’T ACTUALLY KNOW EACH OTHER. SOME ARE MEETING FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME. HOW ABOUT NO NEW RECIPES ON SPECIAL OCCASIONS? ALSO A NO. THEY’VE NEVER COOKED THIS BEFORE. THEY’RE NOT EVEN EXACTLY SURE WHAT IT IS THAT THEY’RE COOKING.>>I THOUGHT THAT IT WAS AN AMAZING IDEA AND I WAS EXCITED TO COME. ESPECIALLY WITH THE ELECTION COMING UP, THERE ARE A FEW ISSUES THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO ME. BUT I LIKE TO MEET PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF MY REGULAR CIRCLE AND SEE WHAT MATTERS TO OTHER VOTERS.>>YOU’RE NOT SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT POLITICS AT DINNER BUT THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT WE’RE DOING. OKAY, SO WE HAVE OUR LITTLE CONVERSATION CARDS. [laughter] DO YOU VOTE? WHY OR WHY NOT? YES. [laughter] I DEFINITELY DO VOTE. I THINK THAT IT’S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT I THINK THAT A LOT OF TIMES THAT PEOPLE CAN GET BOGGED DOWN AND THINK THAT THEIR ONE SINGLE VOTE CAN’T MAKE A DIFFERENCE. BUT IF EVERYBODY DID THAT, THEN NOTHING WOULD HAPPEN. IT’S IN OUR EVERYDAY LIVES SO IT’S SO FAR IN THAT WE ALL CHOOSE TO VOTE AND FIND THAT OUR VOTE IS IMPORTANT, BECAUSE IT IS. EVERY SINGLE ONE MATTERS. SO I DEFINITELY VOTE.>>I TOTALLY AGREE. NOT TO BRING IT BACK TO POLITICIANS BUT I THINK THEY HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO GIVE US GOOD REASONS TO VOTE. I DON’T THINK THAT THEY’RE CATERING TO YOUTH VOTERS RIGHT NOW. I DON’T THINK THAT THEY’RE SOLVING OUR EDUCATIONAL ISSUES WITH TUITION AND WITH TRANSPORTATION. I REALLY WISH THEY THOUGHT ABOUT ALL OF THE POTENTIAL VOTERS, RATHER THAN THE REGISTERED VOTERS.>>Andrew: IT WAS INTERESTING, FOR ABOUT THE ENTIRE TIME THAT WE WERE THE CONVERSATION WAS VERY POLITICAL BUT RARELY PARTISAN. NO ONE HERE SEEMS INTERESTED AT SNIPING AT ANY PARTICULAR LEADER.>>I PERSONALLY DON’T FEEL CONNECTED TO ANY ONE SPECIFIC REPRESENTATIVE OR LEADER. THE WAY THAT I’M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO I’M GOING TO VOTE FOR IS BASED ON WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. IT DOESN’T REALLY HAVE MUCH TO DO WITH THE ACTUAL LEADER.>>I AGREE WITH THAT. ESPECIALLY THIS YEAR, IT’S — THERE’S SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON AND IT’S HARD TO RESONATE WITH ONE PARTICULAR PARTY.>>Andrew: WHAT ARE THE ISSUES THAT YOU THINK ARE YOUR NUMBER ONE ISSUES, THE ONES THAT ARE MOST IMPORTANT THIS ELECTION?>>I THINK THAT I’M VERY INTERESTED IN THE ECONOMY AND JUST WHERE THE JOB MARKET IS GOING. I THINK TOO ESPECIALLY NOW IS THAT WE HAVE TRANSITIONED FROM STUDENTS TO ADULTS AND YOUR PAYCHEQUES AND HOW MUCH IS GOING TOWARDS TAXES. IT MAKES YOU REFLECT MORE BECAUSE YOU SEE THAT COMING OFF OF YOUR INCOME SO YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT’S GOING SOMEWHERE THAT YOU CARE ABOUT.>>YEAH, AND LIKE ALL OF US LIVING IN TORONTO, THIS IS LIKE THE MOST EXPENSIVE HOUSING MARKET IN THE COUNTRY. I THINK THAT IT’S SURPASSED VANCOUVER RECENTLY. SO, LIKE, ON THE LENS, THE ECONOMY AND TAXES AND EVERYTHING — LIKE, THIS IS NOW HITTING US A LOT MORE.>>Andrew: SO WHY IS THAT YOU DON’T THINK THAT MORE YOUNG PEOPLE ARE ENGAGED OR GET INTERESTED IN OR FOLLOW OR DISCUSS OR DEBATE?>>I THINK THAT PEOPLE DON’T ALWAYS CONNECT THESE ISSUES TO GOVERNMENT OR TO POLITICS. PEOPLE VIEW IT AS ALMOST SOMETHING SEPARATE, WHEN IT’S ALMOST EVERYTHING THAT WE DO FROM THE MOMENT WE WAKE UP UNTIL WE GO TO BED.>>THERE ARE HIGHER LEVELS OF DISTRUST WITH POLITICS, BECAUSE THERE’S SO MANY WAYS TO CONSUME INFORMATION NOW THAT IT’S REALLY HARD FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO READ SOMETHING AND EVALUATE ITS CREDENTIALS.>>I FEEL THAT SOMETIMES WHEN YOU GO ONLINE, SOMETIMES IT’S REALLY HARD TO FIND REPUTABLE SOURCES THAT WE CAN REALLY TRUST.>>WE SHOULDN’T HAVE TO DISSECT A SYSTEM THIS MUCH. IT SHOULDN’T BE AROUND ELECTION PERIOD WHEN WE HEAR WHAT DIFFERENT GROUPS WANT TO BE DOING. IT SHOULD BE INCORPORATED INTO OUR DAILY LIVES. AND TO HAVE THIS KIND OF DINNER, NOT EVERYONE HAS THE TIME TO DO THIS.>>Andrew: IT TURNS OUT THEY HAVE A LOT TO SAY ONCE THEY GET GOING. AND THE HOPE IS THAT AFTER A NIGHT LIKE THIS, THESE CONVERSATIONS START TO FEEL A LITTLE LESS DAUNTING.>>TO DEMOCRACY.>>TO DEMOCRACY. [laughter]>>Andrew: AFTER ALL, IF YOU CAN HAVE THESE TALKS WITH STRANGERS, THEN WHY NOT WITH FRIENDS?>>Adrienne: NEXT ON “THE NATIONAL”…>>>OUR “MOMENT.”>>Adrienne: HERE QUITE LITERALLY IS A BIRD’S-EYE VIEW. I PROMISE THAT YOU’LL SEE IT SOON. VICTOR IS AN EAGLE WHO CARRIES AROUND A CAMERA. DISPATCHED NOW TO RAISE AWARENESS OF CLIMATE CHANGE. VICTOR FLEW TO FIVE COUNTRIES IN FIVE DAYS, CAPTURING SOME OF THE WORLD’S MOST ASTONISHING SCENERY. HIS TOUR AND HIS VIEW MAKE UP “THE MOMENT.” (*)>>THE ALPINE EAGLE TOUR WAS A PROJECT THAT WE JUST FINISHED YESTERDAY. AND ACTUALLY VICTOR FLEW FROM THE FIVE BIGGEST MOUNTAINS IN THE ALPS. HE’S THE ONLY EAGLE IN THE WORLD THAT CAN DO THIS FLIGHT. AND WE HOPE THAT, YEAH, PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD ARE GOING TO WATCH IT AND ARE GOING TO SEE HOW BEAUTIFUL OUR PLANET IS. AND THAT ACTUALLY IT’S REALLY WORTH TO DO SOMETHING SO WE DON’T LOSE ALL OF THIS BEAUTY. WHAT WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT IS THAT WE WITNESSED HOW GLACIERS ARE DISAPPEARING. THE FACTS ARE VERY IMPORTANT, THERE’S NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT. BUT, YEAH, IT WAS WITH EMOTION THAT WE CAN ALWAYS CHANGE PEOPLE.>>Adrienne: OKAY, THAT IS STRIKING. I KNOW THAT THEIR MESSAGE IS SUPPOSED TO BE THAT, YOU KNOW, 10%, I THINK, 10 YEARS OF GLACIERS IN THE ALPS RETREATED. AND I GET VERTIGO FROM JUST LOOKING AT THAT BECAUSE IT’S STAGGERINGLY BEAUTIFUL.>>Ian: WE KNOW WITH THE CLIMATE CHANGE STORY IS ONE OF THE PROBLEMS IS THE SAMENESS OF IT, RIGHT? HOW DO YOU GET THAT MESSAGE OUT? YOU APPARENTLY PUT A 360-DEGREE CAMERA ON THE BACK OF A VERY STRONG EAGLE. AND THAT’S A PRETTY EFFECTIVE WAY TO AT LEAST GET PEOPLE’S ATTENTION FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.>>>THAT IS “THE NATIONAL” FOR OCTOBER 9th. GOODNIGHT.>>Adrienne: GOODNIGHT. (*)

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