The National for Tuesday July 4, 2017


(♪♪♪)>>Rosemary: GOOD EVENING, I’M ROSEMARY BARTON, AND THIS IS “THE NATIONAL.”>>Interview: THIS IS GOING TO BE VERY CONTROVERSIAL.>>Rosemary: OMAR KHADR IS IN LINE FOR A GOVERNMENT APOLOGY AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AS CANADIANS STILL DEBATE IS HE VILLAIN OR VICTIM.>>Interview: THE SUPREME COURT HAS THREE TIMES RULED IN OMAR KHADR’S FAVOUR.>>Rosemary: CONTROVERSY AROUND A GROUP THAT DISRUPTED AN INDIGENOUS CEREMONY.>>Interview: I’LL STAND HERE IN FRONT OF YOU AND APOLOGIZE. ROISES THEY’RE ALL MEMBERS OF THE CANADIAN ARMED FORCES.>>>NORTH KOREA’S DESTRUCTIVE REACH SEEMS TO CLOSE IN ON THE U.S. HERE’S THE RESPONSE… PLUS… THEY PRAY T THEIR DAUGHTER’S KILLER WILL BE SENTENCED AS AN ADULT.>>Interview: I WANT TO DO THIS EVERY TIME. (♪♪♪)>>Rosemary: 15 YEARS AFTER HE WAS TAKEN CAPTIVE ON SUSPICION OF KILLING A U.S. ARMY MEDIC, OMAR KHADR REMAINS A DEEPLY CONTROVERSIAL FIGURE, LABELLED A TERRORIST, AND CONVICTED OF MURDER AND CURRENTLY FREE ON BAIL. AND NOW KHADR HAS CANADIANS DIVIDED AGAIN BECAUSE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS PLANNING AN OFFICIAL APOLOGY TO KHADR FOR THE WAY THAT HE WAS TREATED IN GUANTANAMO BAY AND THAT SORRY WILL COME WITH MORE THAN $10 MILLION. AND THE ANNOUNCEMENT WHEN IT WILL HAPPEN IS NOT CLEAR BUT THE REACTION CAME ON STRONG TODAY. CATHERINE CULLEN HAS THAT FROM OTTAWA.>>Interview: I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE CANADIAN PUBLIC FOR TRUSTING ME AND GIVING ME A CHANCE.>>Reporter: HOURS AFTER OMAR KHADR LEFT PRISON IN 2015, HE WAS ALREADY TALKING ABOUT CLEARING HIS NAME WITH CANADIANS.>>Interview: I AM A GOOD PERSON. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.>>Reporter: FOR SOME, AN APOLOGY AND COMPENSATION FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT MIGHT BE THAT PROOF, THAT REDEMPTION. BUT FOR OTHERS, IT IS AN INCREDIBLELE OUTRAGE. THIS IS VIDEO OF A 15-YEAR-OLD OMAR KHADR IN AFGHANISTAN MAKING ROADSIDE BOMBS. IN A FIREFIGHT HE THREW A GRENADE AT AN AMERICAN SOLDIER, SERGEANT CHRISTOPHER SPEERS WAS KILLED.>>Interview: HE WAS A CHILD SOLDIER. HE WAS A VICTIM. HE WASN’T A MASTERMIND AND A PERPETRATOR OF ANYTHING.>>Reporter: ALEX KNIEVE OF AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL SAYS THERE’S QUESTIONS ABOUT HIS CONFESSION IN THE DEATH AS PART OF A PLEA DEAL. KNIEVE ARGUES THAT KHADR WAS A CHILD SOLDIER WHO SHOULD HAVE BEEN PROTECTED AND INSTEAD HE WAS IMPRISONED AND QUESTIONED IN GUANTANAMO BAY FOR 10 YEARS. AT ONE POINT UNDERGOING WEEKS OF SLEEP DEPRIVATION AND THEN BEING INTERROGATED.>>Interview: WE ABSOLUTELY DO OWE HIM REDRESS AND AN APOLOGY.>>Reporter: THE CANADIAN TAXPAYERS’ FEDERATION DOESN’T THINK SO, IT ARGUES, QUOTE, CANADIANS SHOULD NOT BE FORCED TO PAY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO A KILLER. THE CONSERVATIVES HAVE MADE A SIMILAR MOVE, SAYING THAT THE APOLOGY IS WRONG AND THAT “THANKS TO JUSTIN TRUDEAU, KHADR WILL BE ONE OF THE WEALTHIEST MEN IN CANADA.”>>Interview: IT’S A TRAGIC CASE ON ALL LEVELS BUT WE CAN’T EXCUSE THE BEHAVIOUR OF MR. KHADR AND, CERTAINLY, ALMOST REWARD IT IN THIS WAY IS A TRAVESTY.>>Reporter: THE PRIME MINISTER WHO WAS TRAVELLING OVERSEAS WAS NOT SAYING MUCH ABOUT THE SETTLEMENT.>>Prime Minister Justin Trudeau: WE’RE ANTICIPATING, LIKE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE ARE, THAT THAT JUDICIAL PROCESS IS COMING TO ITS CONCLUSION.>>Reporter: HE WILL HAVE TO LIKELY SAY WHAT HE THINKS OF THAT CONCLUSION WHEN THE APOLOGY IS OFFICIALLY ANNOUNCED. IN THE MEANTIME ONE FORMER LIBERAL SENATOR WHO COMMANDED THE MISSION IN RWANDA IS CELEBRATING THE NEWS. ROMEO DALLAIRE SAYS THAT KHADR WAS A CHILD SOLDIER PUSHED TO FIGHT IN AN ADULT WAR.>>Interview: ALL OF A SUDDEN BECAUSE HE WAS FACING A FORCE THAT IS AN ALLY TO US, THAT SEEMED TO HAVE HAD A SIGNIFICANT INFLUENCE AND IT SHOULDN’T HAVE. AND A CHILD IS A CHILD IS A CHILD.>>Reporter: SPEERS WIDOW SUED KHADR IN U.S. CIVIL COURT AND THEY WON MORE THAN $100 MILLION IN DAMAGES, THOUGH THEY HAVE NEVER SEEN ANY OF THAT MONEY. CATHERINE CULLEN, CBC NEWS, OTTAWA.>>Rosemary: NO JOURNALIST HAS COVERED OMAR KHADR MORE THAN MICHELLE SHEPHARD. WE SPOKE EARLIER TODAY. GOOD TO SEE YOU, MICHELLE.>>Interview: GOOD TO SEE YOU TOO.>>Rosemary: WHAT DO WE MAKE OF THIS, THAT THIS SETTLEMENT SEEMS ABOUT TO HAPPEN, DOES THAT SEEM SURPRISE SOMETHING.>>Interview: I’M NOT SURPRISED BY IT. THE SUPREME COURT HAS THREE TIMES RULED AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT IN OMAR KHADR’S FAVOURITE AND SAY THAT THEY VIOLATED HIS CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS WHEN HE WAS IN GUANTANAMO SO FOR ME IT WAS JUST A MATTER WHEN THE SETTLEMENT WOULD COME AND HOW MUCH.>>Rosemary: REMIND PEOPLE WHY IT WAS NEEDED, WHY THERE WAS GOING TO BE A SETTLEMENT OR WHY OMAR KHADR WOULD HAVE LIKELY UP WITH A CASE IN COURT?>>Interview: WHAT THE SUPREME COURT FOUND IS THAT WHEN CANADIAN OFFICIALS WENT DOWN TO INTERROGATE HIM IN GUANTANAMO THEY KNEW ABOUT HIS MISTREATMENT AND WENT FORWARD ANYWAY. SO THAT’S ONE ISSUE. AND THE OTHER ISSUE FROM DAY ONE WAS HIS AGE. HE WAS 15 YEARS OLD WHEN HE WAS SHOT AND CAPTURED IN AFGHANISTAN AND UNDER INTERNATIONAL LAW THAT’S CONSIDERED A CHILD SOLDIER AND NEITHER THE U.S. NOR CANADA HAS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT HIS AGE.>>Rosemary: SO WHAT DOES THE APOLOGY MEAN DO YOU THINK? YOU KNOW HIM A LITTLE BIT, YOU HAVE SPENT SOME TIME WITH HIM, WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT IT WILL MEAN TO HIM AND WILL THE MONEY MEAN ANYTHING?>>Interview: THE MONEY WILL BE DIVIDED BETWEEN OMAR KHADR AND HIS LAWYERS AND THE LAWYERS HAVE FOUGHT FOR 15 YEARS, PRACTICALLY PRO BONO FOR HIM AND GONE INTO DEBT AND SUFFERED A LOT, YOU KNOW, EMOTIONALLY FOR WHAT HAS BEEN A VERY DIVISIVE CASE. SO FOR THEM AND THE SETTLEMENT AND THE AMOUNT IS SIGNIFICANT AND IT SHOWS THE SERIOUSNESS OF THE GOVERNMENT IN GIVING SUCH A LARGE AMOUNT AND WHAT THEY FEEL THE CULLABILITY OF OFFICIALS ARE IN THE CASE.>>Rosemary: AND THE APOLOGY PART, DO YOU THINK THAT WILL MATTER TO HIM AS HE TRIES TO MOVE FORWARD AND RECONCILE THIS COUNTRY WITH WHAT HAPPENED?>>Interview: I THINK SO. I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONDITIONS THAT THE LAWYERS WERE GOING TO STICK TO AND IT WAS ONE OF THEIR POINTS THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THEY GOT.>>Rosemary: WHAT DO YOU SAY TO CANADIANS WHO DON’T QUITE UNDERSTAND? THERE’S A LOT OF THEM.>>Interview: THERE’S A LOT. I THINK THAT NO MATTER WHAT YOU THINK OF THIS CASE, WHATEVER SIDE, WHAT’S SO DEPRESSING, AND I HAVE SEEN IT AGAIN TODAY IN THE REACTION OF THIS CASE, IS THE LEVEL OF RHETORIC AND VITROLE AND POLITICING AROUND THIS CASE. AND SOMETIMES IT FEELS THAT WE’RE NO FURTHER THAN WE WERE IN 2002 WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT AND IT’S DISAPPOINTING BECAUSE I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THE LEVEL OF DEBATE A LOT HIGHER TODAY.>>Rosemary: OKAY, MICHELLE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.>>>THE MILITARY MADE AN UNUSUAL APOLOGY TODAY FOR THE ACTIONS OF ARMED FORCES MEMBERS OFF-DUTY ON CANADA DAY. THE FIVE WHITE MEN DISRUPTED AN INDIGENOUS CEREMONY IN HALIFAX, ACTING AS MEMBERS OF A MUCH LESS RESPECTED ORGINISATION THAT CALLS ITSELF “PROUD BOYS.” BRETT RUSKIN HAS DETAILS.>>NO MORE!>>Reporter: THE INDIGENOUS CEREMONY TOOK PLACE HERE ON CANADA DAY, BENEATH THE STATUE OF THE BRITISH MILITARY EDWARD CORNWALLIS. THE CONTROVERSIAL FIGURE FOUNDED HALIFAX IN 1749 BUT HE PUT A BOUNTY ON THE HEADS OF MI’KMAQ FIRST NATIONS CEREMONIES. THIS WAS TO MOURN THE ATROCITIES COMMITTED AGAINST INDIGENOUS PEOPLE. PARTWAY THROUGH THOUGH FIVE WHITE MEN SHOWED UP WEARING BLACK SHIRTS AND CARRYING AN OLD CANADIAN FLAG WITH THE UNION JACK.>>Interview: THIS IS MI’KMAQ TERRITORY, THIS IS NOT CANADA.>>Interview: THIS IS CANADA. IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN MI’KMAQ –>>Interview: YOU HAVE CANADIAN I.D. AND YOU DON’T HAVE A MEDICARE CARD?>>Reporter: REBECCA THOMAS IS A MI’KMAQ WOMAN THERE ON CANADA DAY AND WITNESSED THE HEATED EXCHANGE.>>Interview: I WAS NERVOUS, VERY NERVOUS AS TO WHAT COULD HAPPEN, RIGHT? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOUNG BRASH MEN AND PASSIONATE PROTESTERS COMING TOGETHER AND THAT DOESN’T ALWAYS HAVE A HAPPY ENDING.>>Reporter: THE CONFRONTATION LASTED ABOUT 10 MINUTES BEFORE THE FIVE MEN LEFT THE PARK.>>Interview: WE’LL GO.>>Reporter: TODAY THE MILITARY CONFIRMED ALL FIVE MEN ARE MEMBERS OF THE CANADIAN ARMED FORCES AND ARE NOW UNDER INVESTIGATION.>>Interview: WHATEVER THE PROUD BOYS REPRESENTS IS NOT A SHARED VALUE OF THE CANADIAN ARMED FORCES AND, THEREFORE, THEIR PERSONAL BELIEFS WASHED OVER INTO THE BELIEFS AND THE ETHOS OF THE CANADIAN ARMED FORCES.>>Reporter: PROUD BOYS IS THE NAME OF A GROUP STARTED IN THE UNITED STATES THAT THE MEN BELONG TO. ON FACEBOOK THE ORGINISATION SAYS THAT IT STANDS FOR WESTERN IDEAS, REFUSING TO APOLOGIZE FOR CREATING THE MODERN WORLD, AND VENERATING THE HOUSEWIFE, FREE SPEECH AND GUNS. ADMIRAL JOHN NEWTON SAYS THAT THESE VIEWS AND ACTIONS DON’T REFLECT THOSE OF THE CANADIAN MILITARY.>>Interview: I’LL STAND HERE IN FRONT OF YOU AND APOLOGIZE TO THE ABORIGINAL COMMUNITY, TO THE — ANY COMMUNITY, THE WHOLE PUBLIC COMMUNITY THAT FEELS OFFENDED BY THE ACTIONS OF FELLOW CANADIANS WHO WEAR THE UNIFORM.>>Reporter: REAR ADMIRAL NEWT ONSAYS HE HOPES THAT THE FIVE MEN PUBLICLY APOLOGIZE FOR THEMSELVES AND HE ALSO SAYS THAT IT’S TOO SOON TO KNOW WHAT POSSIBLE PUNISHMENT COULD BE HANDED DOWN. BRETT RUSKIN, CBC NEWS, HALIFAX.>>Rosemary: AN ONTARIO FIRST NATIONS WOMAN WHO WAS ATTACKED FROM A MOVING CAR WHILE SHE WAS WALKING WITH HER SISTER HAS DIED. THUNDER BAY’S BARBARA KENTNER NEEDED SURGERY AFTER SHE WAS HIT IN THE ABDOMEN BY A TRAILER HITCH THROWN AT HER IN JANUARY. HER SISTER SAID THAT THE PASSENGER IN THE CAR YELLED “OH, I GOT ONE” WHICH SHE TOOK TO MEAN AN INDIGENOUS PERSON. MELISSA KENTNER POSTED THIS PICTURE OF THE HIT ON SOCIAL MEDIA. AN 18-YEAR-OLD MAN WAS CHARGED WITH AGGRAVATED ASSAULT. POLICE ARE NOW DECIDING WHETHER THOSE CHARGES WILL BE CHANGED. (♪♪♪)>>>COMING UP…>>Interview: I STARTED NEW JOBS BEFORE BUT I’VE NEVER, EVER IN MY LIFE RECEIVED THIS KIND OF A WELCOME ON DAY ONE. [laughter]>>Rosemary: CANADA’S TWO NEW ASTRONAUTS ON HOW THEY GOT HERE AND WHERE THEY MIGHT BE GOING.>>THANK YOU. (♪♪♪)>>Rosemary: PLUS, CANADA’S SOUL PEPPER THEATRE MOUNTS AN AMBITIOUS NEW YORK INVASION. (♪♪♪)>>>NORTH KOREA’S LATEST MISSILE TEST IS BUILDING A VERY STRONG CASE THAT THE ROGUE DICTATOR STATE IS CLOSER THAN EVER TO CREATING A WEAPON CAPABLE OF HITTING TARGETS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD. U.S. PACIFIC COMMAND SAYS THAT THE MISSILE WAS LAUNCHED FROM PANGHYON IN THE NORTHWEST AND IT FLEW FOR 37 MINUTES. SOUTH KOREA SAYS IT WENT 934 KILOMETRES BEFORE CRASHING IN THE SEA OF JAPAN, INSIDE OF JAPAN’S SO-CALLED EXCLUSIVE ECONOMIC ZONE. WE’LL GET TO THE POTENTIAL IMPLICATIONS FOR THE WEST IN JUST A MOMENT, BUT WE BEGIN WITH SASA PETRICIC AND THE REGIONAL TENSIONS.>>Reporter: NORTH KOREA HAS BEEN THREATENING TO BUILD NUCLEAR WEAPONS TO HIT THE UNITED STATES FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW AND THIS TEST SIMPLY RATCHETS UP THE TENSION, THE STAND-OFF, BETWEEN PYONGYANG AND WASHINGTON. IT ALSO MAKES NORTH KOREA’S NEIGHBOURS VERY NERVOUS. BOTH JAPAN AND SOUTH KOREA RELY ON AMERICAN FORCES FOR THEIR DEFENCE, BUT IF WASHINGTON DECIDES ON A MILITARY SOLUTION, THESE TWO COUNTRIES ARE LIKELY TO BE THE FIRST TARGETS OF RETAILIATION. SEOUL IS WITHIN EASY REACH OF NORTH KOREA’S CONVENTIONAL WEAPONS. AND THE DAMAGE COULD BE IN THE MILLIONS. KIM JUNG-UN HAS ALSO SHOWN THAT HE’S WILLING AND ABLE TO TARGET JAPAN. HERE IN CHINA, EVERY TIME THAT THERE’S A DEFIANT TEST IT SETS OFF ALARM BELLS AS WELL. IT’S NOT BECAUSE BEIJING FEARS AN ATTACK FROM PYONGYANG, IT’S BECAUSE IT FEARS WHAT WASHINGTON WOULD DO. THE U.S. HAS ALREADY INSTALLED RADAR AND ANTI-MISSILE SYSTEMS IN SOUTH KOREA THAT CHINA SAYS COULD TARGET ITS MILITARY AS WELL. AND IF THE U.S. DOES DECIDE TO ATTACK NORTH KOREA, IT COULD DESTABILIZE THAT REGIME TO SUCH AN EXTENT THAT MILLIONS OF REFUGEES COULD BE POURING OVER THE BORDERS HERE. NOT SURPRISINGLY BEIJING HAS PUSHED FOR A NEGOTIATED SOLUTION BETWEEN PYONGYANG AND WASHINGTON. AND TODAY IT REPEATED THAT SUGGESTION. DESPITE RELATIVELY CLOSE RELATIONS BETWEEN CHINA AND NORTH KOREA, SO FAR CHINA HAS SHOWN ITSELF TO BE UNWILLING OR UNABLE TO FORCE KIM JUNG-UN TO BACK DOWN. SASA PETRICIC, CBC NEWS, BEIJING.>>Rosemary: THE U.S. MILITARY SAYS THAT NORTH KOREA DID LAUNCH AN INTERCONTINENTAL BALLISTIC MISSILE, THE TYPE THAT COULD THREATEN NORTH AMERICA. TODAY’S TEST DIDN’T SEEM CLOSE BUT IT MAY HAVE HIDDEN ITS POTENTIAL. LET’S GO BACK TO THAT MAP, AND IT’S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE, IT’S ROCKET MATH. EXPERTS SAY THAT 37 MINUTES IN THE AIR IS A LONG TIME TO TRAVEL ONLY ABOUT 1,000 KILOMETRES SO THAT SUGGESTS A REALLY HIGH TRAJECTORY. ACHIEVING A MAXIMUM ALTITUDE OF 2,800 KILOMETRES. SO YOU PUT THAT SAME MISSILE ON A LOWER, MORE STANDARD TRAJECTORY AND SOME ANALYSTS BELIEVE THAT IT COULD GO MORE THAN 6,000 KILOMETRES WHICH, IF TRUE, WOULD BRING ALASKA INTO FIRING RANGE. NO SMALL CONCERN ON THE BIGGEST U.S. HOLIDAY. CHRIS O’NEILL-YATES HAS MORE ON THE REACTION.>>President Donald Trump: WE DO HAVE CHALLENGES BUT WE WILL FACE THOSE CHALLENGES, BELIEVE ME.>>Reporter: A FAR CRY FROM THIS MORNING’S OUTBURST ON TWITTER. HE SAID, DOES THIS GUY HAVE ANYTHING BETTER TO DO WITH HIS LIFE? HARD TO BELIEVE THAT SOUTH KOREA AND JAPAN WILL PUT UP WITH THIS MUCH LONGER. PERHAPS CHINA WILL PUT A HEAVY MOVE ON NORTH KOREA AND END THIS NONSENSE ONCE AND FOR ALL. THIS TEST COMES JUST FOUR DAYS AFTER TRUMP MET SOUTH KOREAN PRESIDENT MOON JAE-IN.>>President Donald Trump: EUROPE’S STRATEGIC PATIENCE WITH THE NORTH KOREAN REGIME HAS FAILED, MANY YEARS IT HAS FAILED AND, FRANKLY, THAT PATIENCE IS OVER.>>Interview: WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS TO PREPARE ALL OPTIONS BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT HAS MADE CLEAR TO US THAT HE WILL NOT ACCEPT A NUCLEAR POWER IN NORTH KOREA WITH A THREAT THAT CAN TARGET THE UNITED STATES AND TARGET THE AMERICAN POPULATION.>>Reporter: TONIGHT THE U.S. MILITARY CONDUCTED A BALLISTIC MISSILE DRILL AND SECRETARY OF STATE REX TILLERSON SAYS THE U.S. WILL ENACT STRONGER MEASURES TO HOLD NORTH KOREA ACCOUNTABLE FOR THIS LATEST MISSILE TEST. WHILE IT IS NOT A DIRECT THREAT TO THE CONTINENTAL UNITED STATES RIGHT NOW THIS TEST MARKS A BIG STEP FORWARD. THOUGH NORTH KOREA’S CLAIM THAT IT COULD REACH ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD, MUCH LESS CERTAIN.>>Interview: IT IS A BIG TECHNICAL MILESTONE FOR NORTH KOREA AND A STEPPING STONE TO THE TECHNOLOGY THAT WOULD ALLOW NORTH KOREA TO DO THAT AND FOR THAT REASON WE HAVE A LOT OF GROUNDS TO BE CONCERNED.>>Reporter: HOW TO STEM NORTH KOREAN AGGRESSION WILL MOST CERTAINLY BE ON THE MIND OF LEADERS AT THE G20 THIS WEEK.>>Interview: WE HAVE GOTTEN BEYOND THE STAGE WHERE WE CAN AFFORD TO LET THIS JUST RUN ANY FURTHER. WE’RE QUITE POSSIBLY ONLY MONTHS AWAY FROM KIM JUNG-UN FROM ACHIEVING HIS TARGET.>>Reporter: AND IT COULD STRIKE THE UNITED STATES, A MUCH MORE DIFFICULT CHALLENGE, WHATEVER DONALD TRUMP’S RED LINE ON NORTH KOREA IS, TODAY KIM NUDGED CLOSER TO IT. CHRIS O’NEILL-YATES, CBC NEWS, WASHINGTON.>>Rosemary: TOMORROW THE U.N. SECURITY COUNCIL WILL HOLD AN EMERGENCY MEETING ON NORTH KOREA. A LITTLE LATER WE’LL HEAR FROM TWO EXPERTS ON THAT COUNTRY AND WHERE ITS IMAGE OF ITS BRASH DICTATOR MAY HIDE A MORE CALCULATED MIND.>>>WITH THAT INCIDENT OVER THE WEEKEND, JONATHAN VANCE SAYS THAT THE MEMBERS INVOLVED IN THAT INCIDENT ARE REMOVED FROM TRAINING AND DUTIES WHILE THEY CONDUCT THE INVESTIGATION AND HE GOES ON TO SAY THAT THEIR FUTURE IN THE MILITARY IS CERTAINLY IN DOUBT.>>>STRAIGHT AHEAD… JUSTIN TRUDEAU IN IRELAND AND HE FINDS A KINDRED SPIRIT FACING A FAMILIAR CHALLENGE. ♪ [CBC News theme] Narrator: Margaret
Atwood’s farm is located in
southwestern Ontario. She doesn’t want people
to know exactly where because she doesn’t
like visitors, especially not
the uninvited variety. Car loads of drunken fans
have descended upon the farm in the past, and the memories
of them on her doorstep is not something
she cherishes. Margaret Atwood has always
had an image problem. Many people have
thought her tough, humourless, too strident in her
feminist beliefs, too much the ideologue
in her politics. But that
image is changing, as Margaret Atwood
herself changes. Three years ago she had a baby
girl, Eleanor Jess. And starting then,
Margaret Atwood says, the public image of her as
“Dragon Lady” began to change. Something really– A horrible cliché
took place. I wouldn’t have
believed it. As soon as I had a baby
,everybody started writing about me in much
modified terms, as sort of
motherly person. [laughs] So believe it or not,
there you are. I don’t think I’d really,
quotes, “Changed all that much.” In other words, I don’t think
I was tough as everybody thought before I had the baby,
and I don’t think I was as soft and sort of bouncy
as everybody thought after. We you write do you
set yourself a schedule? Do you follow
a set schedule? Before I had a child
I used to write all day, maybe ten hours. I would get up
at about ten and stay up until
three in the morning. And worry until about 6:00 PM
and then start writing. But not I have to limit
the amount of time I spend
on anxiety. [laughs] Because otherwise I’d
use that five hours– So now I only have
five hours a day. I work from about 1 o’clock
until about six. Do you
revise a lot? Do you go through many
versions of your work? I write
in long hand, which is indecipherable
to anybody else, and sometimes
even to me. [laughs] Then I transcribe that
onto a typewriter and some changes
happen then. Then I revise the typescript
and some other changes happen then. And then there may be yet
another stage of pulling it all together and correcting
things that were wrong. Do you have a feeling before
the book actually comes out, and is made available
to the public? Do you have a gut feeling about
how it is going to be received whether it’s Lady Oracle or
Life Before Man? Yes, I do and
sometimes I’m wrong. ♪ [CBC News theme] (♪♪♪)>>Rosemary: IT WAS A DAY OF GIFTS AND PHOTO-OPS FOR THE PRIME MINISTER. AS YOU SAW EARLIER IN THE PROGRAM, JUSTIN TRUDEAU IS IN DUBLIN. WHILE TALKS WERE ON THE AGENDA, BUILDING INTERNATIONAL RELATIONSHIPS SEEM TO BE TRUDEAU’S MAIN GOAL. KATIE SIMPSON IS COVERING THE P.M.’S TRIP.>>I HEARD THAT YOU LIKE SOCKS.>>Reporter: YOU’D NEVER KNOW THAT IT WAS THEIR FIRST MEETING.>>Prime Minister Justin Trudeau: THESE ARE GREAT SOCKS AND QUITE FRANKLY WITH HIS SOCKS ON RIGHT NOW. [laughter]>>Reporter: THE PRIME MINISTER AND HIS NEW IRISH COUNTERPART, LEO VARADKAR, APPEARED TO BE FAST FRIENDS.>>Prime Minister Justin Trudeau: NICE TO SEE THIS TURN OF GENERATION OF YOUNGER, THOUGHTFUL LEADERS ON THE WORLD STAGE WITH SUCH A SIMILAR VIEW.>>Reporter: BOTH ARE YOUNG, PRO-TRADE, SOCIAL PROGRESSIVES FACING SIMILAR CHALLENGES.>>Interview: WE HAVE TO EACH SHARE A RELATIONSHIP WITH A VERY BIG NEIGHBOUR, A NEIGHBOUR THAT TO A CERTAIN EXTENT HAS DECIDED TO GO IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, AT LEAST FOR THE TIME BEING.>>Reporter: IRELAND IS ANXIOUSLY WATCHING BREXIT WHILE CANADA IS DEALING WITH THE PROTECTIONIST TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. TO COUNTER THAT KIND OF ISOLATIONISM, BOTH LEADERS CALLED FOR THE NEXT STAGE OF THE CANADA-E.U. FREE-TRADE DEAL TO BE COMPLETED.>>Prime Minister Justin Trudeau: WE HAVE COME TO A FREE-TRADE DEAL THAT IS NOT ONLY A GREAT DEAL FOR EACH SIDE BUT A MODEL TO THE WORLD.>>Reporter: CANADA WANTED CETA IMPLEMENTED BY JULY 1st BUT HESITATIONS AROUND CHEESE QUOTAS AND DRUG RULES ON THE EUROPEAN SIDE HAVE STALLED PROCESS.>>Interview: I KNOW THAT IT’S SEVEN YEARS IN THE MAKING BUT THERE’S A RATIONALE FOR RATIFICATION AND WE ARE CONCERNED THOSE ISSUES ARE NOT ADDRESSED.>>Reporter: BUT TRUDEAU DIDN’T APPEAR CONCERNED ABOUT THE PUSHBACK AND NEITHER DID HIS ENTHUSIASTIC HOST.>>Interview: KNOW THAT CANADA HAS A FRIEND AND ALLY IN IRELAND.>>Reporter: BOTH CLEARLY TOOK A LIKING TO EACH OTHER AND SPENDING THE REST OF THEIR TIME REFLECTING ON CANADA AND IRELAND’S SHARED HISTORY OF MIGRATION AND SUPPORT. TRUDEAU MAY HAVE A NEW ALLY BUT IRELAND’S PRIME MINISTER DOES NOT HAVE THE LOUDEST VOICE AT THE TABLE WHEN IT COMES TO E.U. TRADE ISSUES SO IT’S UNCLEAR WHAT IMPACT TRUDEAU’S IRISH CHARM OFFENSIVE WILL HAVE, IF ANY AT ALL. KATIE SIMPSON, CBC NEWS, DUBLIN.>>Rosemary: RONA AMBROSE MADE HER DEPARTURE FROM POLITICS OFFICIAL TODAY, AFTER 13 YEARS AS AN EDMONTON M.P., CABINET MINISTER, AND INTERIM LEADER OF THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY. IN HER RESIGNATION LETTER TO THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE OF COMMONS SHE SAID, QUOTE, I HOPE THAT IN SOME SMALL WAY I HAVE INSPIRED WOMEN AND GIRLS TO LOOK TO PUBLIC OFFICE AS A WAY TO MAKE THEIR WORLD A BETTER PLACE. MY MESSAGE TO THEM IS THIS — YOU ARE EQUAL, YOU ARE WORTHY, AND YOU CAN DO IT.>>>AUSTRIA IS THREATENING TO FORTIFY ITS BORDER WITH ITALY TO STOP MIGRANTS FROM ARRIVING IN THE COUNTRY. SO FAR THIS YEAR 100,000 PEOPLE HAVE ENTERED EUROPE BY CROSSING THE MEDITERRANEAN SEA. MOST LAND IN ITALY. AUSTRIAN AUTHORITIES ARE WORRIED THAT INFLUX MAY CREATE A SPILLOVER AT ITS BORDER.>>>BOMB DISPOSAL EXPERTS CARRIED OUT A CONTROLLED EXPLOSION OFF ENGLAND’S COAST TODAY. THE PREVIOUSLY UNEXPLODED BOMB WAS THOUGHT TO BE FROM THE SECOND WORLD WAR.>>>AND THIS LUNAR ROVER IS WAY CLOSER TO HOME THAN IT MAY APPEAR, YEAH, IT’S STILL ON EARTH. SCIENTISTS TOOK IT FOR A SPIN ON MOUNT ETNA TODAY BECAUSE AS IT TURNS OUT THAT EXPERTS THINK THAT EUROPE’S MOST ACTIVE VOLCANO HAS A WHOLE LOT IN COMMON WITH THE SURFACE OF THE MOON OR EVEN MARS. ONE OF THOSE LOCATIONS MAY BE THE ROVER’S ULTIMATE DESTINATION.>>>REMEMBER THAT WIDE OPEN CALLOUT LAST YEAR, ASTRONAUTS WANTED? WELL, 3,772 CANADIANS, IF YOU WERE ONE OF THEM, THESE ARE YOUR NEXT SPACE EXPLORERS. ALISON NORTHCOTT TELLS HOW THEY GOT THERE AND WHAT TO EXPECT OF THEM GOING FORWARD. [Applause]>>Reporter: AS THEY ARRIVED AT THE CANADIAN SPACE AGENCY, CANADA’S NEWEST ASTRONAUTS GOT A WARM AND ENTHUSIASTIC GREETING.>>Interview: I HAVE STARTED NEW JOBS BEFORE BUT I HAVE NEVER, EVER IN MY LIFE RECEIVED THIS KIND OF A WELCOME.>>Reporter: FOR 35-YEAR-OLD JOSHUA KUTRYK AND 28-YEAR-OLD JENNIFER SIDEY BEING HERE IS A DREAM THAT GOES BACK YEARS. SIDEY WAS 4 YEARS OLD WHEN THE FORMER CANADIAN ASTRONAUT ROBERTA BONDAR FLEW ON THE SPACE SHUTTLE DISCOVERY IN 1992 AND BECAME A ROLE MODEL TO A GENERATION.>>Interview: I MADE THIS WONDERFUL SCRAPBOOK OF A BUNCH OF NEWS CLIPPINGS AND A SPACESHIP OUT OF A TOILET PAPER ROLL AND I WROTE JENNY ON IT.>>Reporter: SIDEY IS A MISDEMEANORRAL ENGINEER AND A COMBUSTION SCIENTIST AND A LECTURER. AND KUTRYK HAS A DEGREE IN SPACE STUDIES AND DEFENCE STUDIES. THE PAIR WERE CHOSEN AMONG NEARLY 4,000 CANDIDATES AFTER A GRUELING TESTING PROCESS.>>Interview: LIKE SOLVING PUZZLES WHILE AT THE BOTTOM OF A POOL ON APPROACHING MINUTE OF ONE BREATH HOLD AND IT’S DIFFICULT STUFF LIKE THAT WHERE YOU HAVE TO DO COGNITIVE WORK AND OPERATING AT THE BOUNDARIES OF YOUR PHYSICAL ABILITIES.>>Reporter: THEY’D HELL TO HOUSTON FOR TWO YEARS OF TRAINING AND PUSHING THE BOUNDARIES FURTHER AND INSPIRING THE NEXT GENERATION.>>Interview: I THOUGHT THAT IT WAS GREAT BECAUSE I DREAM TO BECOME SOMETHING BIG LIKE AN ASTRONAUT AND STUFF LIKE THAT.>>Reporter: AS CANADIAN ASTRONAUTS THEY COULD EVENTUALLY PARTICIPATE IN A MISSION TO THE INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION BUT ROBERTA BONDAR, THE ASTRONAUT WHO INSPIRED JENNIFER SIDEY, SAYS THAT THE POSSIBILITIES GO BEYOND THAT TOO.>>Interview: THESE ASTRONAUTS WOULD BE WELL ADVISED TO THINK ABOUT THE MOON AND THINK ABOUT IT AS A STEPPING STONE TO OTHER PLACES. AND THE MOON IS VERY CLOSE, IT’S NOT AS FAR AS MARS FOR SURE AND IT’S A SAFER ENVIRONMENT I THINK FOR US TO TRY TO TAKE THESE BABY STEPS INTO THE UNIVERSE BEYOND.>>Reporter: AND ENDEAVOUR THAT THIS NEXT GENERATION IS READY TO EMBARK ON AS THEY AIM TO BREAK NEW BOUNDARIES IN SPACE EXPLORATION. ALISON NORTHCOTT, CBC NEWS, MONTREAL.>>Rosemary: I GUESS THAT I’LL MAKE THE NEXT ROUND.>>>THE ONTARIO GOVERNMENT IS GIVING A SNAPSHOT ON THE IMPACT OF FOREIGN BUYERS ON A HOT HOUSING MARKET, A MONTH’S WORTH NOW OF DATA SHOWS NEARLY 5% OF HOMES SOLD IN THE GOLDEN HORSESHOE WERE PURCHASED BY PEOPLE OVERSEAS. THESE HOMES WERE SOLD BEFORE THE PROVINCE INTRODUCED THAT FOREIGN BUYERS’ TAX. ONTARIO’S TAX IS MODELED AFTER B.C.’S WHERE ONE IN 10 HOMES IS BOUGHT BY NON-RESIDENTS.>>>COMING UP… WHAT YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT NORTH KOREA.>>Interview: THEY’RE SORT OF THE ULTIMATE REALISTS AS THEY DO BELIEVE THAT THE WORLD IS OUT TO GET THEM AND THAT THEY HAVE SERIOUS SECURITY CONCERNS.>>Rosemary: WE LOOK BEHIND THE MYSTERY AND, YEAH, THE MOCKERY, TO SEE WHAT THEIR LEADERS ARE REALLY AFTER.>>>PLUS… A JEALOUS EX-BOYFRIEND MURDERED THEIR DAUGHTER AND NOW THEY HOPE FOR AN ADULT SENTENCE SO THE WORLD WILL KNOW HIM FOR THE KILLER HE IS.>>>A QUICK LOOK AT TODAY’S BUSINESS NUMBERS, THE U.S. MARKETS ARE CLOSED FOR THE HOLIDAY AND THE T. STORY. AND DROPPED 51 POINTS AND THE ♪ [dreamy] Reporter:
This is Roger Tetreault. He’s a Montreal
bill collector– that’s his job. He also holds
news conferences– that’s his hobby. [speaking French] Reporter: Here’s Tetreault three
years ago, posing as the president
of a fictional group called “Water Aid For America,” urging that Canada
ship its water to the drought-stricken US. The national media
gobbled it up. News Announcer:
Here is the CBC News. A group of Montreal residents
wants to pressure the Canadian government
into diverting water from the Great Lakes into
the Mississippi River. Reporter: The French language
network of the CBC believed Tetreault was also
a nuclear expert. [speaking French] Reporter: Here he is telling
a national audience how the Chernobyl disaster
could rain down assorted horrors
on North Americans. The now-defunct
Montreal Daily News had him under another name,
Tuball Cane, and yet another vocation. It’s been going on
for years. In 1971, the Montreal Star
thought it had a scoop. An internal
CIA memo outlining covert operations
in Quebec. It even made
The National on CBC. Under a CIA letterhead,
the document reads “Subject: Quebec.” Reporter: It was Tetreault’s
work, of course. Around the same time,
he suckered the Toronto Star Weekly with
a phony FLQ terrorist camp in the Laurentian Hills. I told myself,
“If they want fiction, I’ll give them fiction.”
So I gave them fiction. Reporter: Tetreault says there
are many others like him, only nowadays, they’re known as
“media consultants” and “spin doctors.” Whoever’s got
an axe to grind, they give
their spin to it, and they get
into the media, and that’s the story
that goes out. He’s absolutely right. Governments, anybody
who’s covered governments or followed things
they do know that they engage in this, whether you want to call them
trial balloons or disinformation,
they do it frequently. Reporter: Is Tetreault’s career
as a hoaxer over? Perhaps. But he says he’ll
certainly keep trying, guided by
the firm belief that there’s a reporter born
every minute. He mouthed two words,
the first word of which started with F and the second
word of which started with O. Well, it’s a lie, because
I didn’t say anything. Reporter: Sir,
did you mouth it? What does mouth mean? Reporter: Move your lips. Yes, I moved my lips. Reporter: In the words
you’ve been quoted as saying? No. [crosstalk]
What were you thinking when you moved
your lips? What is the nature of
your thoughts, gentlemen, when you say fuddleduddle
or something like that? God! Well, the big topic
on Parliament Hill today wasn’t the Constitution,
it wasn’t the economy, it was the Prime Minister
and his language. I heard him say
very clearly [bleep]ing bastard. I convey to the Speaker my regrets for
any inconvenience and I convey to any honourable
member of the House of my regrets to them. Just quiet down, baby. [laughter, oohing] Reporter: Liberal Sheila Copps
didn’t think the remark was very funny. I’m not his baby,
and I’m nobody’s baby, and I’d like him to
withdraw those remarks. The House is no stranger
to heated exchanges, but few have been this heated
or this strange. -Did he–
-For shame. Now, I hear the word racist
from that side. Do you have the fortitude
or the gonads to stand up and come across here
and say that to me, you son of a bitch?
Come on! [oohing] -Darrel.
-Darrel. Order. -I will not have some asshole–
-Order. sit there and
call me a racist! Reporter: Stinson
came within three metres of Liberal John Cannis
before returning to his seat. Reporter: That was too much
for one Liberal MP. [oohing] I did not say fuddleduddle,
that was another generation. I think that
we’ve reached a point where this type of conduct
that’s not only disgraceful, but it’s unacceptable. ♪ ♪>>Interview: KING YOUNG UN, THIS CRAZY FAT KID THAT IS RUNNING NORTH KOREA.>>Rosemary: YOU MAY SNICKER AND, SURE, THE PARADE AND THE MELODRAMATIC NEWS BROADCAST AND THE UNABASHED ADORATION OF KIM JUPG UN, BUT ASK THOSE WHO LIVE UNDER THAT RULE AND YOU GET A DIFFERENT SENSE OF THE DANGEROUS AMBITIONS AND “THE NATIONAL” RECENTLY TOOK A DEEPER LOOK AT NORTH KOREA’S RACE TO ARM HIMSELF. HERE’S WENDY MESLEY.>>Wendy: NORTH KOREA’S LEADER KIM JUNG-UN, IS RAPIDLY DEVELOPING A MISSILE CAPABLE OF DELIVERING A NUCLEAR WARHEAD THAT REACH THE U.S.>>Interview: KIM JUNG-UN, THIS CRAZY FAT KID, THAT IS RUNNING NORTH KOREA.>>Wendy: AND IN THE ASSESSMENT OF SOME OFFICIALS, POLITICIANS AND COMMENTATORS, HE’S A FULL BEYOND THE REACH OF REASON.>>Interview: I APPRECIATE ALL OF MY COUNTERPARTS WANTING TO TALK ABOUT TALKS AND NEGOTIATIONS. WE ARE NOT DEALING WITH A RATIONAL PERSON.>>Interview: I DON’T SEE THEM AS IRRATIONAL AND I THINK THAT THERE’S CERTAINLY A VALUES CLASH AND HE’S A DICTATOR. BUT HE’S VERY CALCULATED AND EVEN KIM JUNG-IL WAS CALCULATED AND THEY’RE REALISTS THAT THEY BELIEVE THAT THE WORLD IS OUT TO GET THEM AND THEY HAVE SERIOUS SECURITY CONCERNS THEY NEED TO DEAL WITH IN THAT PROCESS.>>Wendy: CHINA’S RELATIONS WITH THE BIZARRE DICTATORSHIP HAVE DECLINED. AND NORTH KOREA CAN’T IGNORE THE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF U.S. TROOPS ALONG WITH SOUTH KOREAN ALLIES THAT HAVE BEEN STATIONED AT THE NORTH’S BORDER EVER SINCE THE KOREAN WAR, WHICH TECHNICALLY NEVER ENDED.>>Interview: WHEN YOU’RE A SMALL COUNTRY IN THE MIDDLE OF OTHERS AND YOU’RE SORT OF THE HATED ONE OF ALL OF THIS, IT MAKES YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE PARANOID AND IT MAKES YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE YOUR OWN CAPABILITIES AND YOUR OWN EXIT PLAN.>>IN OUR COUNTRY THE ATOMIC INDUSTRY HAS BEEN USED FOR PEACEFUL PURPOSE, THAT IS, FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE ECONOMY AND THE WELFARE OF THE PEOPLE.>>Wendy: THE U.S. BECAME CONCERNED ABOUT PYONGYANG’S NUCLEAR PROGRAM IN THE 1980s. WASHINGTON OFFERED AID AND PEACEFUL NUCLEAR TECHNOLOGY IN RETURN FOR DISARMAMENT IN THE 1990s.>>Interview: NORTH KOREA CANNOT BE LEFT TO DEVELOP A NUCLEAR BOMB. WE HAVE TO BE VERY FIRM ABOUT IT.>>Wendy: BUT NORTH KOREA SEEMED TO STALL AND EVADE INSPECTIONS AND EVERYTHING UNRAVELLED IN THE EARLY 2000s.>>Interview: STATES LIKE THESE AND THEIR TERRORIST ALLIES CONSTITUTE AN AXIS OF EVIL, ARMING TO THREATEN THE PEACE OF THE WORLD.>>Wendy: SINCE THEN A PATTERN HAS EMERGED WITH DICTATORS THAT THE U.S. DOESN’T LIKE — SADDAM HUSSEIN WAS TRIED AND EXECUTED, MOAMMAR QADDAFI NEVER MADE IT TO A TRIAL.>>Interview: SOMEBODY SHOT HIM…>>Wendy: AND FOR AN INSURANCE POLICY THEY DIDN’T HAVE AND NORTH KOREA KNOWS IT.>>Interview: THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN LIBYA AND IRAQ AND NOW EVEN WITH SYRIA, YOU SAW THE FIRST THING THAT KIM JUNG-UN DID AFTER THE STRIKES ON SYRIA WAS TO SAY HERE THIS JUSTIFIES THE NOTION THAT WE HAD THAT THE U.S. IS OUT TO GET US.>>[speaking foreign LANGUAGE].>>Wendy: THE PROPAGANDA IS RELENTLESS. THE SYSTEM ITSELF SEEMS LIKE A WILD-EYED CULT TO THE OUTSIDE WORLD.>>Interview: KIM JUNG-UN HAS TO BE A LEADER AS A GOD, THERE’S NO EXCEPTION. WHEN YOU ARE BORN IN NORTH KOREA, BEFORE YOU REMEMBER YOUR NAME YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE LEADERS. BEFORE YOU REMEMBER YOUR BIRTHDAY YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THEIR BIRTHDAYS. FIRST THING THAT I LEARNED FROM THE NURSERY WAS THIS INFORMATION. AND THIS KIND OF BRAINWASHING SYSTEM GOES FOREVER UNTIL YOU DIE.>>Wendy: BUT ACCORDING TO MANY DEFECTORS, FAITH IN THE NATIONAL RELIGION IS OFTEN AN ACT THAT NEITHER LEADERS NOR THEIR POPULATION TRULY BELIEVE.>>Interview: WE MUST CONNECT AND BE INTIMATE.>>Reporter: YOU HAVE DATE FOR WHEN?>>Interview: IN THE NEAR FUTURE. IN THE NEAR FUTURE.>>Interview: THEY HAVE WATCHED THIS INFORMATION FOR THEIR LIVES. AND THEY DON’T BELIEVE IT, OF COURSE, THEY PRETEND TO RESPECT THE GOVERNMENT BUT IN PRIVATE LIFE THEY DON’T CARE ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT, THEY JUST CARE ABOUT MONEY AND THEY JUST CARE ABOUT HOW TO MAKE A LOT OF MONEY FOR THEIR LIFE.>>Wendy: POLITICAL CONTROL IN NORTH KOREA IS VIOLENT AND EXTREME. BUT WHILE KIM JUNG-UN CLAMPS DOWN ON CONTRABAND AND BORDER SECURITY, ANALYSTS SAY THAT HIS FREE MARKET REFORMS ARE GROWING THE ECONOMY. AND THAT MANY NORTH KOREANS SUPPORT HIS NUCLEAR POLICY.>>Interview: DOMESTICALLY I THINK THAT KIM JUNG-UN’S ADVANCEMENT OF THESE PROGRAMS TIED WITH BETTER ECONOMIC CONDITIONS INSIDE OF THE COUNTRY HAVE ACTUALLY INCREASED HIS POPULARITY DOMESTICALLY.>>Interview: LET THE MEDIA, THEY PORTRAY KIM JUNG-UN AS A FAT MAN AND HIS HAIRSTYLE IS REALLY STUPID. YOU KNOW WHAT? THAT’S REALLY, REALLY, REALLY A STUPID THING TO DESCRIBE HIM. HE’S REALLY RATIONAL AND HE’S NOT STUPID. HE’S REALLY, REALLY SMART.>>Wendy: THE U.S. HAS FEW OPTIONS. THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION HAS PUT ITS FAITH IN CHINA.>>President Donald Trump: PRESIDENT XI WANTS TO DO THE RIGHT THING. I THINK HE WANTS TO HELP US WITH NORTH KOREA.>>Wendy: BUT CHINA’SACTUAL LEVERAGE OVER NORTH KOREA IS DEBATABLE. JUST ASK KIM JUNG-UN’S UNCLE.>>Interview: HE WAS VERY POPULAR WITH THE CHINESE AND HAD VERY DEEP RELATIONS WITH THE CHINESE AND HAD, YOU KNOW, A VERY WELL ESTABLISHED REPUTATION WITH THE CHINESE AND I THINK THAT THERE’S A CERTAIN DEGREE TO WHICH KIM JUNG-UN WHEN HE CAME TO POWER ONCE HE HAD ESTABLISHED A STRONG ENOUGH CORE DECIDED THAT HE DIDN’T WANT TO BE A PUPPET OF THE CHINESE.>>Wendy: KIM EXECUTED HIS UNCLE IN 2013. HE HAS NOT VISITED BEIJING NOR SHAKEN HANDS WITH CHINA’S LEADER XI JINPING.>>Interview: I THINK THAT PEOPLE OVERESTIMATE AND THEY TEND TO OVERESTIMATE THE INFLUENCE THAT CHINA WOULD HAVE.>>Wendy: SANCTIONS ON NORTH KOREA COULD STILL BE TIGHTENED. RECENTLY CHINA HAS BLOCKED COAL IMPORTS. BUT AFTER DECADES OF PRACTISE, PYONGYANG HAS ADAPTED DODGING AND MITIGATING SANCTIONS. AND FOR ALL OF THE PROBLEMS OF THE MILITARY EXERCISES THE TALK OF DECAPITATION STRIKES, WAR IS ALMOST UNTHINKABLE.>>Interview: IT WOULD BE A DISASTER, COMPLETE DISASTER. AND, YOU KNOW, AND YOU DO HAVE THE POTENTIAL OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS BEING USED.>>Wendy: AMERICAN ALLIES WOULD HAVE TO PREPARE FOR A CATASTROPHIC RETALIATION. EVEN IF THE U.S. MAINLAND REMAINED SAFE, TENS OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE ARE WITHIN RANGE OF NORTH KOREAN ARTILLERY AND MISSILE STRIKES.>>Interview: RETALIATION COULD BE ON SEOUL AND IT COULD BE ON TOKYO AND ON ISLANDS IN JAPAN AS SORT OF MORE OF A WARNING. YOU KNOW, SO IT COULD GET VERY MESSY VERY FAST AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, WORLD WAR THREE ON YOUR HANDS.>>Interview: THE NATION IS ON KIND OF — HOW CAN I SAY — IN A CHICKEN GAME, YES, IT’S A KIND OF CHICKEN GAME, YEAH.>>Wendy: THE OUTLOOK FOR DIPLOMACY LOOKS GRIM. NORTH KOREA’S GOALS ARE REGIME SECURITY AND PROSPERITY. A HARD SELL WHEN THERE’S NO MUTUAL TRUST.>>Interview: WITHOUT USING NUCLEAR WEAPONS HE CANNOT IMPROVE HIS — IMPROVE THE NATIONAL ECONOMY. THAT’S THE DILEMMA. AND THEN THE UNITED STATES HAS TO PROVIDE NATIONAL SECURITY AND THEN GIVE ECONOMIC AID. DONALD TRUMP WON’T DO THIS. SO THAT’S WHY, I MEAN, KIM JUNG-UN IS IN A DILEMMA.>>Wendy: RIGHT NOW THERE’S NO DIRECT TALKS WITH NORTH KOREA, THE TIME IS RUNNING OUT AND IF ALL OPTIONS ARE ON THE TABLE NO MATTER HOW UGLY, CALLS TO NEGOTIATE WITH PYONGYANG WILL GROW LOUDER.>>Rosemary: CHINA HAS FOLLOWED THROUGH ON ITS BAN ON NORTH KOREAN COAL. A COMMITTEE SAYS IN ONE MONTH THE BAN DECREASED PYONGYANG’S EXPORTS FROM MORE THAN A MILLION TONNES TO JUST A FEW THOUSAND.>>>UP NEXT… A REGINA FAMILY YEARNS FOR JUSTICE. WILL THEY GET TO TELL THE WORLD WHO KILLED THEIR TEENAGED ♪ ♪ It has been a wet and deadly 36 hours in North Eastern
Québec. Reporter: All day local radio
has been warning people in dozens of specific areas
to leave their homes. And if they can’t drive out, signal helicopters
flying overhead so they can be flown out. At least seven people are dead. Several more are missing, and thousands more have been
forced to flee. Reporter: A minister
in the Québec government described the situation
in this region as apocalyptic, catastrophic. For more than a day,
torrents of water have crashed through
villages, towns and cities, taking houses, in some cases
entire buildings, with it. Reporter: Like clockwork, every five minutes
a helicopter lands, bringing refugees
from the flood. These people are from
Grande-Baie. It was terrible. Like hell. Reporter: This is what
they’re escaping. Hundreds of homes
drowning in mud, hanging by a thread, or giving in to
the relentless river. [screaming] No one knows how many bridges
and roads have collapsed, and the landmarks wiped out. This old pulp mill re-opened as
a museum just two weeks ago. Now it’s a
$6 million write-off. Reporter: This disaster is
unprecedented in Canada and so is the relief fund, the largest ever collected
by the Red Cross. The money has come from people
all over the country, and this region knows it. Reporter:
Same with the destruction. The cars buried under mud. The homes swept out
in to the river. Whole neighbourhoods gone. That one house with the now
famous foundation that, alone, resisted. Things people here
will never forget. Their disaster
and the charity of others. Good evening. It’s official now. The F-18A has won the fighter
plane contract. Reporter: The winning McDonnell
Douglas 18A will cost $15 million a copy, and is almost certain to be
a highly controversial buy. Reporter: General Dynamics,
makers of the F-16 and the losing company
in this competition, has issued a statement saying
the benefits it offered were higher than the government
gave it credit for and that the price of the plane
the government has bought will go up because of continued
problems with it. Reporter:
For all of its weaponry, the toughest battle the F-18
Hornet may ever have to face is the barrage of poor
publicity it’s now attracting. Its costs have been climbing
and some media reports have described the Hornet
as a lemon. Earlier this year, the US
General Accounting Office blasted the plane. It was
nearly a tonne overweight, its undercarriage was faulty, it had problems of drag, reduced engine thrust, range, and its acceleration was below
specifications. Reporter: Canada now has
nearly 40 of them and expects to buy 100 more. Each of them costs
$30 to $40 million. Today it was revealed
that the CF-18 and its American cousins
in the United States Navy have the same problem. Cracks have started to appear
in the tail section when the fighter does
the combat maneuvers it was designed to do. It’s a relatively minor problem.
It’s one that is readily identifiable,
the cause is known. Reporter:
This latest fault is sure to add to the criticisms of
those people who felt that Canada should have bought many
more of a competing air craft. A fighter that came with
a much lower price tag. ♪ ♪ (♪♪♪)>>Rosemary: A REGINA FAMILY IS IN ANGUISH TONIGHT, THREE YEARS AFTER THEIR TEENAGED DAUGHTER WAS KILLED. HER FORMER BOYFRIEND HAS PLEADED GUILTY TO FIRST-DEGREE MURDER BUT THERE’S STILL TWO POSSIBLE OUTCOMES. A JUDGE DECIDES TOMORROW IF HE’LL BE SENTENCED AS A YOUNG OFFENDER OR AN ADULT. HER PARENTS GAVE AN EMOTIONAL INTERVIEW TO OUR BONNIE ALLEN.>>Reporter: HANNAH LEFLER, A 16-YEAR-OLD STRAIGHT-A STUDENT WHO SIMPLY DATED THE WRONG GUY. IN JANUARY 2015, SHE WENT HOME AFTER SCHOOL ONLY TO BE STABBED TO DEATH IN HER PARENTS’ BEDROOM BY HER EX-BOYFRIEND.>>Interview: MISSING TEETH…>>Reporter: TODAY HER MOTHER JENNA LEFLER AND HER STEPFATHER WADE ANDERSON STILL LIVE IN THE HOUSE BUT CAN’T STAND TO GO IN THEIR ROOM AND THEY SLEEP IN THE BASEMENT.>>Interview: IT’S ALL SO SURREAL AND IT’S SO UNBELIEVABLE.>>Interview: I’VE GOT A SECOND AND A HALF OR TWO SECONDS IN THE MORNING WHEN I OPEN MY EYES AND THEN I REMEMBER WHAT’S GOING ON.>>Interview: TRYING TO COME TO GRIPS WITH EVEN HOW SHE DIED. HANNAH’S ROOM… LEFT MOSTLY UNTOUCHED.>>Reporter: HANNAH WAS AN ARTIST AND A WRITER WHO LOVED VIDEO GAMES. SHE BROKE UP WITH HER FIRST SERIOUS BOYFRIEND AFTER HE BECAME POSSESSIVE AND CONTROLLING. HE COULDN’T COPE WITH THE REJECTION. OVER TIME THE 16-YEAR-OLD BOY ASKED FRIENDS TO HELP TO TRACK HANNAH’S MOVEMENTS.>>Interview: HIS FRIENDS HELPED AND ENCOURAGED HIM TO STALK HER.>>Reporter: AT THE BOY’S SENTENCING HEARING IN MAY WE LEARNED HOW HIS VIOLENT OBSESSION INTENSIFIED AND HE TALKED ABOUT CUTTING THE BRAKES ON HANNAH’S CAR AND HE TOLD A FRIEND HE WANTED TO KILL HER AND EVEN BECOME A SERIAL KILLER. COURT DOCUMENTS REVEAL THAT FOR MONTHS HE AND SEVERAL FRIENDS HAD CRAFTED AN ELABORATE PLAN DOUBLED “PROJECT ZOMBIFY” TO KILL HANNAH’S NEW BOYFRIEND AND HER IF NECESSARY. IT WAS CALLED AGAIN WHEN HANNAH BROKE UP WITH THAT BOYFRIEND.>>Interview: IT DISGUSTS ME. AND NOBODY SAID, HEY, MAYBE YOU SHOULD STOP OR WHAT YOU’RE SAYING IS CRAZY OR MAYBE YOU SHOULD JUST LEAVE HER ALONE.>>Interview: A LOT OF TEENAGERS ARE DRAWN TO THE DRAMA, YOU KNOW.>>Reporter: LONNIE ELLIOTT IS A FORMER VICTIM OF ABUSE WHO TALKS TO HIGH SCHOOL KIDS ABOUT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.>>Interview: THEY PROBABLY THOUGHT IT’S SOMEWHERE IN THE BACK OF THEIR MINDS THAT THIS IS KIND OF FUN, THIS IS KIND OF COOL. AND, YOU KNOW, DIDN’T REALIZE HOW SERIOUS IT WAS AND UNFORTUNATELY THIS POOR YOUNG WOMAN LOST HER LIFE AS A RESULT OF IT.>>Reporter: THE KILLER MADE A NEW PLAN WITH ONE OF HIS FRIENDS AND STABBED HANNAH TO DEATH. HE PLEADED GUILTY TO FIRST-DEGREE MURDER. A CHILD PSYCHOLOGIST TOLD THE JUDGE THAT THE BOY HAS PSYCHOPATHIC TENDENSIES AND THEY WANT TO FOCUS ON REHABILITATION.>>Interview: IT’S HANNAH’S HANDPRINT.>>Reporter: SHE’S COUNTING ON AN ADULT SENTENCE TOMORROW AND IT MEANS LIFE WITH NO CHANCE OF PAROLE FOR 10 YEARS AND HIS IDENTITY WOULD NO LONGER BE PROTECTED.>>Interview: I WANT HIM TO BE GOOGLED EVERY TIME HE TRIES TO GET A JOB OR GO ON A DATE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW EXACTLY WHO HE IS.>>Reporter: HANNAH’S PARENTS WANT THE MURDER TO HAUNT HIM THE REST OF HIS LIFE JUST AS IT HAUNTS THEM. BONA ALLEN, CBC NEWS, REGINA.>>Rosemary: THE GIRL IN THIS NEXT STORY IS 13 YEARS OLD AND IT’S REMARKABLE THAT SHE’S EVEN ALIVE. HER BODY BEARS THE SCARS OF WAR IN SYRIA AND IT WEIGHS ON HER MIND THAT HER FAMILY IS STILL THERE. BUT AS SHE BUILDS A LIFE IN CANADA, WHAT SHE WANTS, LIKE MOST GIRLS HER AGE, IS TO FIT IN. NELLY GONZALEZ HAS HER STORY AND A WARNING, SOME SCENES MAY BE HARD TO WATCH. (♪♪♪)>>Reporter: LIKE MANY 13-YEAR-OLD GIRLS, MIRIAM LIKES TO DRESS UP AND WEAR PRETTY THINGS. BUT MIRIAM HAS SEEN MORE THAN HER SHARE OF UGLY THINGS THAT HAVE LEFT HER WITH TOO MANY SCARS. INSIDE AND OUT.>>Interview: I DIDN’T REMEMBER ANYTHING. I JUST REMEMBER — THE WHOLE TIME IN THE HOSPITAL, I WAS SCREAMED AND WANTED MY DAD.>>Reporter: IT WAS JANUARY 2015 IN THE SYRIAN CITY OF IDLIB. MIRIAM, WHO DOESN’T WANT HER LAST NAME REVEALED BECAUSE SHE FEARS FOR HER RELATIVES WHO ARE STILL IN SYRIA, RECALLS THE NIGHT HER LIFE CHANGED. SHE AND HER 6-YEAR-OLD SISTER DEANA WERE SLEEPING IN THEIR BEDROOMS WHEN A BOMB FELL ON THEIR HOME. DEANA DIED IN THE BLAST. MIRIAM BARELY SURVIVED, SUFFERING BURNS TO 80% OF HER BODY. THE BLAST TOOK OUT HER FINGERNAILS ON HER LEFT HAND AND SHE HAS NOW LOST FEELING IN HER THUMB, INJURIES SO SEVERE THAT DOCTORS COULDN’T TREAT HER IN SYRIA SO SHE WAS SENT TO TURKEY. SHE WAS UNCONSCIOUS FOR DAYS.>>Interview: I WAKE UP AND JUST I SCREAMED AND WANTED MY DAD. I WAS SHOCKED, I DON’T KNOW WHAT’S GOING ON AND I JUST WANTED TO SEE MY DAD AND MY SISTER.>>Reporter: BUT HER PARENTS WEREN’T THERE. THEY STAYED BEHIND IN SYRIA TO BURY HER SISTER AND CARE FOR THE REST OF THE FAMILY. HER AUNT AND UNCLE AND HER TWO LITTLE BROTHERS TRAVELLED FROM SYRIA TO THE TURKEY HOSPITAL TO BE WITH HER. SHE REMAINED IN THE HOSPITAL FOR TWO MORE MONTHS BEFORE SHE WAS WELL ENOUGH TO LEAVE. WITH THE HELP OF UNICEF CANADA, MIRIAM, HER TWO BROTHERS AND AUNT WERE ABLE TO CLAIM REFUGEE STATUS AND MADE THE TREK TO CANADA AS GOVERNMENT-SPONSORED REFUGEES IN APRIL 2016. MIRIAM’S PARENTS COULDN’T CLAIM REFUGEE STATUS BECAUSE TO DO SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO ESCAPE SYRIA. BUT MIRIAM COMES FROM A LARGE FAMILY WITH ANOTHER FOUR BROTHERS AND FIVE SISTERS BACK HOME AND ESCAPING WITH SO MANY CHILDREN AND RELATIVES ISN’T EASY. SO HER PARENTS LEFT HER IN THE CARE OF HER AUNT SASA WHO HAS BEEN DEALING WITH HER OWN STRUGGLES SINCE THEY ARRIVED IN CANADA LAST YEAR. SHE GAVE BIRTH TO A BABY GIRL IN WINNIPEG WHO HAS A RARE BIRTH DEFECT THAT LEFT HER BRAIN GROWING OUTSIDE OF HER SKULL. SASA’S BABY IS STILL RECOVERING IN HOSPITAL FROM A LENGTHY SURGERY LAST WEEK. AT THE SAME TIME, SASA IS ALSO LOOKING AFTER MIRIAM WHEN SHE SAYS HAS ITS OWN CHALLENGES.>>Interview: (Voice of Translator): BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO HAVE THEIR FAMILY AROUND THEM AND I DO WHAT I CAN DO BUT STILL THERE’S NO FAMILY AROUND.>>Reporter: TEACHERS SAY THAT MIRIAM HAS ADAPTED WELL, SHE CAN NOW SPEAK SOME ENGLISH AND SHE’S MADE FRIENDS AT SCHOOL. BUT SHE STILL STRUGGLES WITH HER APPEARANCE.>>Interview: ME DIFFERENT, SOMETIMES ME CRY BECAUSE I’M DIFFERENT FROM OTHER GIRLS. BECAUSE GIRLS CAN PLAY ANY GAMES THAT GIRLS WANT BUT I CAN’T PLAY WHAT I WANT.>>Reporter: DAYS AT SCHOOL CAN BE TOUGH BUT MIRIAM ALWAYS HAS A SMILE WHEN SHE COMES HOME BECAUSE THAT’S WHAT SHE CALLS HER PARENTS. SHE HASN’T SEEN HER PARENTS SINCE SHE LEFT SYRIA IN 2015. BUT SHE TRIES TO TALK TO THEM REGULARLY. MIRIAM’S AUNT SAYS THAT IT’S UNLIKELY THAT HER PARENTS WILL BE ABLE TO ESCAPE THE WAR-WERE TO COUNTRY AND JOIN MIRIAM IN CANADA WITHOUT HELP.>>Interview: MY DAD SAID TO ME, YOUR SISTER AND YOUR BROTHER, HE NEEDS TO COME TO CANADA.>>Reporter: SHE HAS A LONG ROAD TO RECOVERY WITH ANOTHER SURGERY LATER THIS SUMMER AND MORE TO COME. AND YET IN SPITE OF ALL OF THE CHALLENGES AHEAD FOR HER AND HER FAMILY, MIRIAM IS GRATEFUL TO BE HERE IN CANADA. (♪♪♪)>>Interview: THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT HELP US AND TAKE CARE ABOUT US.>>Reporter: NELLY GONZALEZ, CBC NEWS, WINNIPEG.>>Rosemary: WELL, THAT’S SOME GIRL.>>>DON’T GO AWAY… OUR NEXT STORY COULD HAVE YOU ROOTING FOR SOME LUCKY CANADIAN PERFORMERS. THEY HAVE SET THEIR SIGHTS ON THE BRIGHT LIGHTS OF NEW YORK. (♪♪♪) ♪ [CBC News theme] ♪ [timpani roll] This is The National
news bulletin, a summary of
the days news. Narrator: Even bad news
sounded good in those exciting, terrible days
when radio news came of age. Especially
when read by our own voice of doom,
Lorne Greene. ..a tense naval
battle in the South Pacific. Madam, will you please
put away that knitting. You’re going to have
to applaud you know. Now let’s all relax,
everybody, shall we. Nobody be nervous. Narrator: And to balance
the glum news from overseas CBC Radio offered
happy-go-lucky fare. [knocks on door] Who’s
there? It’s the Happy Gang. Well come
on in! [laughter] [Morse code beeps] Narrator: It all began in 1901,
the discoverer of wireless, Marconi, received his first
Trans-Atlantic radio message from Signal Hill
in Newfoundland. Hi! Narrator: And CBC Radio has been
seeing to it that Canada get’s the message
ever since. In an array of programs from
music talk shows like this, ranging through
schools and youth, agriculture, religion, serious
music and variety. ♪ ♪ A busy place the CBC
and a big country to serve. [typewriter clicks and clacks] How do you supposed all these
programs gets to all these people spread
all over the map? Well if you think of the
network as a super-highway then you can picture national
program clearance as the traffic cop who keeps
things flowing smoothly. National program clearance
arranges distribution of our radio and TV programs
by landlines and by coast-to-coast
microwave network. Just to complicate matters
there are several problems arising out of
the different time zones into which the country
is divided. Not to mention
line availability. Ah, yes,
line availability, I said not to
mention that. Narrator: A CBC colour
presentation. ♪ [groovy] Let’s follow an average
broadcasting day from the beginning. It’s very simple, as the business is
booking studios, getting the slides
to tele-sync, last minute
news inserts, coffee to be
ordered, public affairs
specials, graphics to be ordered
and approved, visual projection
to be set up, coffee to
be brought, feeds to
be lined up, cameras to
tune, light bulbs to
be replaced, monitors to
be serviced, press releases
to be issued, coffee to
be tasted, props to
be picked up, camera’s to
be fired, shot lists
to be typed, contacts to
be drawn up, cold coffee
to be dumped, memos to
be filed. Hold it,
hold it! Cut! The only was this will cut
is go back to the beginning. ♪ [CBC News theme] (♪♪♪)>>Rosemary: BY ANY MEASURE SOUL PEPPER THEATRE IS A SHINING SUCCESS IN CANADIAN ARTS. IN LESS THAN 20 YEARS THE TROUPE HAS OUTPACED OLDER COMPANIES, FIRST BY MOUNTING CLASSIC PLAYS TO GREAT ACCLAIM AND THEN BY BRANCHING OUT INTO CANADIAN WORKS. NOW IT’S BRINGING A DOZEN SHOWS TO NEW YORK. STEPHANIE vanKAMPEN TELLS US WHY THE TIMING COULD HARDLY BE BETTER.>>Interview: SO THIS IS THE FESTIVAL IN NEW YORK…>>Reporter: THIS IS WHAT ALBERT SCHULTZ CALLS HIS WALL OF MADNESS. EACH TINY BOX REPRESENTS ONE PERFORMANCE. A SCHEDULING NIGHTMARE FOR HIS THEATRE COMPANY’S NEW YORK FESTIVAL, AND IN ONE MONTH, FIVE VENUES.>>Interview: TO TAKE A DOZEN SHOWS AND TO TAKE 65 ARTISTS WHEN NO ONE KNOWS WHO THEY ARE — IS — IT’S CRAZY.>>Reporter: CRAZY AND COSTLY. THE TORONTO THEATRE COMPANY IS SPENDING $2.5 MILLION ON THE PROJECT. (♪♪♪) ♪ DID YOU EVER SEE A MOUNTAIN ♪>>Interview: WE ARE GOING TO HAVE RELATIONSHIPS THAT COME OUT OF THIS, RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE AUDIENCE AND RELATIONSHIPS WITH COLLEAGUES AND RELATIONSHIPS WITH OTHER ARTISTS AND THAT — THAT IS AN INVESTMENT, A RISK, IF YOU WILL, THAT IS I THINK WELL WORTH TAKING. (♪♪♪)>>Reporter: BUT GETTING CANADIAN THEATRE TO NEW YORK IS NO WALK IN CENTRAL PARK. ONLY FIVE PRODUCTIONS WRITTEN BY CANADIANS HAVE EVER MADE IT TO BROADWAY. THE LATEST TONY AWARD-WINNING “COME FROM AWAY.” NEW YORK HAS ALWAYS BEEN OPEN TO THEATRES THAT COMES FROM AWAY BUT NOW CANADA IS IN THE SPOTLIGHT.>>Interview: YOU’RE THINKING ABOUT CANADA WHEN YOU GO TO THE THEATRE IS UNUSUAL AND IT PUTS CANADA IN A REALLY POSITIVE LIGHT.>>Reporter: FOR CANADIANS ALREADY ON BROADWAY “COME FROM AWAY’S” SUCCESS PROVES AN INSPIRATION.>>Interview: KIND OF LIKE GIVING PEOPLE PERMISSION TO KIND OF GO FOR IT IN A SENSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SEE CANADIANS GOING DOWN THERE AND BEING ON BROADWAY OR SHOWS TRANSFERRING FROM CANADA AND STUFF IT SEEMS MORE ACCESSIBLE AND MORE LIKE, OH, IF THEY CAN DO IT MAYBE CAN I.>>Reporter: HE STARS ALONG SIDE A FELLOW CANADIAN IN “BEAUTIFUL,” THE CAROLE KING MUSICAL TAKING A BREAK FROM BROADWAY TORONTO RUNS.>>Interview: IT INSPIRES OTHER WRITERS TO CREATE NEW STORIES THAT ARE CANADIAN AND, YOU KNOW, THAT OUR VOICES ARE IMPORTANT AND OUR STORIES DO NEED TO BE HEARD.>>Reporter: SOUL PEPPER HOPES THAT AMERICANS WILL THINK SO TOO. EACH SHOW IN THEIR OFF-BROADWAY FESTIVAL WAS WRITTEN OR ADAPTED BY A CANADIAN.>>WHO CALLS 911?>>I DO.>>Reporter: TITLES LIKE “KIM’S CONVENIENCE” AND “OF HUMAN BONDAGE REQUEST.” SOUL PEPPER HOPES TO BUILD ON THE SUCCESS IT’S HAD HERE. AS THE SONG GOES, IF YOU CAN MAKE IT THERE YOU CAN MAKE IT ANYWHERE. STEPHANIE vanKAMPEN, CBC NEWS, TORONTO.>>Rosemary: ALONG WITH CANADIAN TALENT SOUL PEPPER IS SHOWCASING SOME REAL TRIUMPHS IN DIVERSE PROGRAMMING. YOU SAW IN STEPHANIE’S PIECE “KIM’S CONVENIENCE” YOU MAY NOT KNOW THAT IT STARTED OUT AS A MAJOR HIT FOR SOUL PEPPER. HOW IS THIS FOR FAMILY DRAMA, THEATRE ARTISTS RAVI JAMES STARS ALONGSIDE HIS REAL-LIFE MOM AND THEY BOTH GIVE A VERSION OF WHY HIS ARRANGED MARRIAGE DIDN’T EXACTLY WORK OUT. THAT DOESN’T SOUND AWKWARD AT ALL.>>>THAT’S “THE NATIONAL” FOR THIS TUESDAY NIGHT. FOR NEWS AT ANY HOUR CHECK OUT OUR WEBSITE cbcnews.ca. I’M ROSEMARY BARTON. I’LL SEE YOU BACK HERE TOMORROW. THANK YOU FOR WATCHING, BYE-BYE.

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