The NATIONAL for Sunday March 12, 2017


THE STRONGEST WINDS IN 40 YEARS. IT LEFT A TRAIL OF DESTRUCTION ALL OVER THE CITY. HOUSES ARE MISSING SIDING AND SHINGLES. IT RIPPED DOWN POWER LINES ALL OVER THE CITY. LEAVING TENS OF THOUSANDS IN THE DARK. CREWS ARE STILL WORKING TO RESTORE ELECTRICITY TO HOMES AND BUSINESSES. SOME MAY FACE A SECOND NIGHT WITHOUT POWER.>>Interview: IT IS REALLY, REALLY BAD. WITH THE COLD I HAD TO GO SOMEWHERE WHERE IT WAS WARMER.>>Reporter: THE AIRPORT NEEDED GENERATORS. EVEN PEOPLE WITH POWER ARE ASKED TO CONSERVE. SALT SPRAY FROM THE STORM TOOK OUT ONE OF THE ISLAND’S KEY GENERATORS. GETTING AROUND St. JOHN’S WAS ALSO A CHALLENGE TODAY. THE PROBLEM WAS NOT JUST INTERSECTIONS WITHOUT POWER.>>Interview: WE HAVE 142 TRAFFIC SIGNALS THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED. WE HAVE BEGUN THE TASK. THE TASK OF GETTING THEM DOWN AND COLLECTING THEM AND SEEING WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH.>>Reporter: IT WILL NOT BE A QUICK FIX. THE CITY HAS 40 PAIR SIGNALS. THE POLICE WILL BE OUT DURING RUSH HOUR TOMORROW TO KEEP TRAFFIC MOVING. PETER COWAN, CBC NEWS, St. JOHN’S.>>Wendy: YOU SAW WHAT THE CAMERA CAPTURED. THERE ARE REMARKABLE SCENES FROM THE AVALON PENINSULA POSTED ONLINE AND SENT INTO CBC NEWS. WIND WHIPPED UP HUGE WAVES. THE WIND STRUCK THIS HOUSE IN REDCLIFF WITH SO MUCH FORCE, IT TOPPLED ON TO ITS SIDE.>>>MANY CANADIANS HAVE THEIR TAX FORMS IN. DEDUCTIONS DONE, AND CALCULATIONS CALCULATED. AS TAX SEASON WRAPPED UP, UNTIL THIS EVENING, THE SERVICE FOR SUBMITTING RETURNS ONLINE WAS DOWN. THE CANADIAN REVENUE AGENCY SAID IT ADDRESSED A “INTERNET VULNERABILITY.” SERVICES ARE BACK ONLINE NOW. BUT AS WE EXPLAIN, THE INCIDENT HAS INTERNET SECURITY EXPERTS LEANING IN.>>EVERYBODY IS SO BUSY THIS TIME OF YEAR.>>Reporter: FOR THE ACCOUNTANTS, IT IS A MAKE OR BREAK TIME OF YEAR. HE SAID, EVEN THOUGH TAX RETURN DEADLINE IS MORE THAN A MONTH AWAY, THE CRA TECH PROBLEMS ARE BAD TIMING. THE CRA PULLED THE PLUG ON MUCH OF ITS WEBSITE ON FRIDAY. POSTING THIS NOTICE. THAT ONLINE SERVICES WERE TEMPORARILY UNAVAILABLE INCLUDING ELECTRONIC FILING DUE TO AN INTERNET VULNERABILITY. IN A STATEMENT, THE CRA SAID THE AGENCY IS NOT AWARE OF ANY UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO TAXPAYER INFORMATION. AND THAT DIGITAL SERVICES WERE TAKEN OFF LINE AS A PRECAUTION. NOT AS A RESULT OF A SUCCESSFUL HACK OR A BREACH. EXPERTS SUSPECT CRA SERVERS ARE THE WEAK LINK.>>THE VULNERABILITY IS SUCH THAT IF SOMEONE WERE TO CREATE SOME CODE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE SERVER, THEY COULD STEAL DATA OR INSTALL MALWARE ON PEOPLE WHO ARE FILING INCOME TAX RETURNS.>>Reporter: WITH SOCIAL INSURANCE NUMBERS AND FINANCIAL HISTORIES, CRA SERVERS HAVE A MASSIVE COLLECTION OF SENSITIVE PERSONAL DATA ON CANADIANS. AND IT HAS BEEN VULNERABLE IN THE PAST. BACK IN 2014, THIS YOUNG SOFTWARE ENGINEER ALERTED THE CRA TO A SECURITY PROBLEM KNOWN AS THE HEARTBLEED BUG.>>Interview: I NEVER GOT A RESPONSE FROM ANYONE. THE ONLY TIME I FOUND OUT THAT THE CRA DID ANYTHING WHAT WHEN THEY SHUT DOWN THE SERVERS LATER THAT EVENING AND THE R.C.M.P. WAS INVOLVED. AFTER I HEARD THAT SOMEONE DID GET IN.>>Reporter: THIS TIME AROUND, HE SEES AN IMPROVEMENT IN THE CRA’S RESPONSE. MORE THAN 8 OUT OF 10 CANADIANS FILE THEIR TAX RETURNS ONLINE. THEY HAVE THEIR REFUNDS DEPOSITED ELECTRONICALLY. THAT MEANS THE CRA IS UNDER PRESSURE TO MAKE SURE IT IS NOT JUST CONVENIENT BUT IS SAFE AND SECURE.>>Wendy: AFTER ANOTHER ROLLER COASTER WEEK IN WASHINGTON, DONALD TRUMP IS MAKING HEADLINES, EVEN HISTORY. FIRST, BY ACCUSING BARAK OBAMA OF ILLEGALLY WIRETAPPING HIS CAMPAIGN. SECOND, BY BACKING AN ALL OUT PUSH TO REPLACE A MAJOR PIECE OF OBAMA’S LEGACY. AS PAUL HUNTER TELLS US, TODAY IN BOTH CASES, HE FACES AN OBSTACLE. HIS OWN REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED CONGRESS.>>Reporter: A MONTH AND A HALF INTO THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY, AND STILL THEY SHOUT. VOTERS FOR AND AGAINST HOW THINGS ARE PLAYING OUT IN WASHINGTON. ANGRILY VENTING THIS WEEKEND IN CALIFORNIA. AT A TOWN HALL FOR THEIR LOCAL FEDERAL LAW MAKER. A TRUMP REPUBLICAN. AS ALL OF THAT WENT DOWN, ON WEST COAST, TRUMP HIMSELF WAS IN WASHINGTON. UNDER GROWING PRESSURE TO EXPLAIN HIMSELF FOR THE TWEETS, ACCUSING FORMER PRESIDENT BARAK OBAMA OF ORDERING A WIRETAP ON TRUMP TOWER DURING LAST YEAR’S CAMPAIGN. THE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE NOW WANTS THE WHITE HOUSE TO OFFER PROOF OF THAT. DEADLINE, TOMORROW. AMONG THOSE PRESSURING TRUMP, FELLOW REPUBLICAN JOHN McCAIN.>>THE PRESIDENT HAS ONE OF TWO CHOICES, EITHER RETRACT OR TO PROVIDE THE INFORMATION THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DESERVE BECAUSE IF HIS PREDECESSOR VIOLATED THE LAW, PRESIDENT OBAMA, VIOLATED THE LAW, WE HAVE A SERIOUS ISSUE HERE.>>Reporter: FOR TRUMP, THERE IS MORE.>>President Donald Trump: I WILL GET RID OF OBAMACARE WHICH IS A CATASTROPHE.>>Reporter: THAT PROMISE MADE SO OFTEN BY TRUMP DURING THE CAMPAIGN IS A TOUGH ONE.>>OPTIONS AND CHOICES ARE GOING DOWN.>>Reporter: THE NEW HEALTH CARE PLAN PUT FORWARD BY REPUBLICANS LAST WEEK HAS ITS SUPPORTERS.>>I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT NOBODY WILL BE WORSE OFF FINANCIALLY IN THE PROCESS THAT WE ARE GOING THROUGH.>>Reporter: MANY OTHERS ALREADY FIERCELY OPPOSE IT.>>THERE IS EVERY ESTIMATION THAT ANYWHERE FROM 2-15 MILLION PEOPLE WILL LOSE COVERAGE.>>WHAT THE MODERN PEOPLE WANT IS AN IMPROVEMENT ON OBAMACARE. NOT THE DECIMATION OF OBAMACARE.>>Reporter: AND AMONG THE CRITICS OF THE NEW PLAN, LIKE WITH THE WIRETAP ALLEGATION, REPUBLICANS.>>I BELIEVE IT WOULD HAVE ADVERSE CONSEQUENCES FOR MILLIONS OF AMERICANS. IT WOULDN’T DELIVER ON OUR PROMISES TO REDUCE THE COST OF HEALTH INSURANCE FOR AMERICANS.>>Reporter: THAT KIND OF CRITICISM IS EXPECTED TO RAMP UP TOMORROW WHEN ESTIMATES ARE RELEASED. AND THE LIKELY COST OF THE NEW HEALTH CARE PLAN. SURE TO SATISFY NEITHER SIDE IN THE DEBATE AND LEAVE AMERICANS AS THEY ARE WITH THAT WIRETAP STORY ONCE AGAIN WONDERING WHO TO BELIEVE. PAUL HUNTER, CBC NEWS, WASHINGTON.>>Wendy: IN TWO WEEKS, EU LEADERS MARK THE 60th ANNIVERSARY OF THE TREATY OF ROME. ONE OF THE FOUNDING AGREEMENTS OF THE EUROPEAN UNION. TODAY, THOUSANDS RALLIED TO SUPPORT THE EU IN A TIME OF DOUBT. MANY WORE ORANGE, THE NATIONAL COLOUR OF THE NETHERLANDS WHICH GOES TO THE POLLS ON WEDNESDAY. THE MESSAGE, REJECT THE POPULOUS TIDE AND STAY. THE DUTCH FAR RIGHT LEADER WANTS OUT OF THE EU AND HE IS POLLING STRONGLY. SO IS THE NATIONAL FRONT LE PEN IN FRANCE AHEAD OF THE VOTE NEXT MONTH.>>>AT LEAST 46 PEOPLE DIED WHEN A MOUNTAIN OF TRASH COLLAPSED ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF THE ETHIOPIAN CAPITAL TODAY. MOST WERE WOMEN AND CHILDREN. ONE OF AFRICA’S WEALTHIER OR DEVELOPED CITIES, BUT EXTREME POVERTY IS RAMPANT WITH MANY LIVING WITHIN OR NEXT TO THE LANDFILL.>>>WITH ONE FINAL RIDE, SOUTH KOREA’S PRESIDENT IS A PRIVATE CITIZEN. IMPEACHED AFTER MONTHS OF OUTRAGE. THE DETAILS OF PARK GEAN-HYE’S SCANDAL ARE VARIABLE. THE ADVISOR STANDS ACCUSED OF USING THE RELATIONSHIP TO EXTORT POWERFUL COMPANIES, ALL LEAVING A COUNTRY IN POLITICAL TURMOIL. MORE FROM SEOUL.>>Reporter: TONIGHT, HE TOOK HER LAST RIDE IN THE OFFICIAL MOTORCADE, SLIPPING AWAY FROM THE BLUE SOUTH, SOUTH KOREA’S PRESIDENTIAL PALACE. SHE HELD ON TO THE PERKS OF PRESIDENT FOR TWO DAYS AFTER A COURT VERDICT TOOK THE POSITION AWAY FROM HER, CITING EVIDENCE OF CORRUPTION AND ABUSE OF POWER. SHE REFUSED TO ADMIT ANY WRONGDOING. HER SUPPORTERS DON’T ACCEPT IT EITHER. HUNDREDS JAMMED THE LANE THAT LEADS TO HER NEW PRIVATE HOME. CHEERING HER ON WITH DEVOTED FERVOR. SINCE FRIDAY, THREE OF HER SUPPORTERS HAVE DIED. RIOTING IN ANGER. PARK’S FIRST STATEMENT SINCE THE VERDICT WAS READ BY A SPOKESPERSON. I APOLOGIZE THAT I COULD NOT FINISH MY MANDATE AS PRESIDENT, SHE WROTE. IT WILL TAKE TIME, BUT THE TRUTH WILL BE REVEALED. ORCE PARK OUT.REANS MARCHED TO EVERY WEEK FOR THE PAST FIVE MONTHS. THEY CELEBRATED HER DEPARTURE IN THE HEART OF SEOUL LAST NIGHT. IT IS A START, SAID THIS MAN. BUT IT WILL TAKE TIME BEFORE WE CAN CLEAN UP ALL THE CORRUPTION HER CONSERVATIVE PARTY LEFT BEHIND. OTHERS LIKE THIS POLITICAL COMMENTATOR WORRY THE SPLIT IN KOREAN SOCIETY MAY NEVER HEAL. IF THE CONSERVATIVES CONTINUE TO DENY THE LEGITIMACY OF THE RULING, AND OF ANY NEW PRESIDENT AFTER AN ELECTION, HE SAYS, WE WILL HAVE AN ONGOING CRISIS. AS FOR PARK GEAN-HYE, SHE MAY HAVE LEFT THE WHITE HOUSE BUT NOT ALL HER TROUBLES. SHE LOST PRESIDENTIAL IMMUNITY. THE PROSECUTORS HAVE RECOMMENDED THAT ALL THOSE ALLEGATION OF CORRUPTION AGAINST HER NOW BE TURNED INTO FORMAL CRIMINAL CHARGES. SASA PETRICIC, CBC NEWS, SEOUL. [♪♪♪]>>Wendy: COMING UP, COLIN MOCHRIE ON ACCEPTING HIS TRANSGENDER DAUGHTER.>>YOU ARE NERVOUS FOR YOUR CHILD ANYWAY. WHEN THIS JOURNEY HAPPENS HAPPE.>>Wendy: HOW HIS IMPROV SKILLS CAME HANDY.>>THE LATEST RAGE ON HIGHLY LUCRATIVE POT SHOPS ON THE SUNDAY TALK. ARE THE LIBERALS TO BLAME FOR A WILD WEST OF WEED?>>>A POLITICAL DRAMA IS TAKING SHAPE, A CAST OF CHARACTERS NOT FULLY FORMED. THE OPENING ACT STILL FAR IN THE FUTURE. BUT TODAY, IN OTTAWA, THE N.D.P. LEADERSHIP CONTENDERS FACED EACH OTHER FOR THE FIRST OF SEVEN DEBATES. KATIE SIMPSON HAS THE DETAILS.>>Reporter: EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS A COLLEAGUEAL TONE AND A LOT OF AGREEMENT, THE N.D.P. IS IN THE MIDST OF AN IDENTITY CRISIS. THEY FACED SIGNIFICANT LOSSES AFTER STRAYING FROM THE ROOTS. THE CANDIDATES PRESENTED THEIR PLANS TO REBUILD TODAY. EACH HOPEFUL ACKNOWLEDGED THE PARTY NEEDS TO RECONNECT WITH ITS BASE. DIFFERED ON HOW. NIKKI ASHTON GAVE A NOD TO PUTTING AN EMPHASIS ON SOCIAL JUSTICE. GUY CARON WANTS A STRATEGY TO BEAT JUSTIN TRUDEAU.>>YOU HAVE TO VOTE FOR ME, IF YOU DON’T VOTE FOR ME, IT WILL BE THAT CONSERVATIVE RIGHT WING IDEAL REPLACING. YOU NEED TO VOTE FOR ME. THAT IS THE PLAY FOR 2019. YOU WONDER WHAT WILL BE OUR PLAY?>>WE ARE NOT JUST A PARTY HERE TO WIN ELECTIONS. WE ARE A PARTY THAT IS HERE TO EFFECT POLITICAL CHANGE FOR 2019 AND BEYOND.>>Reporter: CANDIDATES DIFFERED ON PIPELINE POLITICS, PETER JULIAN TOOK THE HARDEST STAND AGAINST MOST DEVELOPMENT AND CHARLIE ANGUS ARGUED THE WORKERS IN THE RESOURCE SECTOR CANNOT BE LEFT BEHIND IN A TRANSITION TO A GREENER ECONOMY.>>WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE TO GET TO THE NEW ECONOMY. WE WILL NEED NATURAL RESOURCES. YOU CANNOT BUILD WINDMILLS WITHOUT STEEL.>>SOMETIMES IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO RECONCILE THE ENVIRONMENT AND NATURAL RESOURCE EXTRACTION. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT RAW BITUMEN EXPORTS AND KINDER MORGAN AND ENERGY EAST.>>Reporter: ALL FOUR CANDIDATES DISTANCED THEMSELVES FROM TOM MULCAIR. THE LEADERS’ NAME DID NOT COME UP ONCE.>>Wendy: A BIG VICTORY TODAY FOR CANADIAN GOLFER ADAM HADWIN. HE BLEW A BIG LEAGUE BUT HUNG ON TO WIN A PGA EVENT IN FLORIDA. HE EARNED A COVETED SPOT AT THE MASTERS TOURNAMENT IN AUGUSTA, GEORGIA. HE IS SUPPOSED TO BE ON HIS HONEYMOON THEN. HIS FIANCE AGREED TO POSTPONE.>>>50 COUNTRIES AROUND THE GLOBE USE ENGLISH AS AN OFFICIAL LANGUAGE. HERE IN CANADA, SOME WORDS ARE DISTINCTLY OURS. A TEAM OF RESEARCHERS PUT TOGETHER A DICTIONARY OF CANADIAN ISMS.>>Reporter: WHEN IT COME TO CANADIAN WORDS, ONE WORD COMES UP A LOT. HEY.>>HEY.>>Reporter: IT IS A WORD WITH MANY MEANINGS. THE RESEARCHERS SPENT 11 YEARS UPDATING CANADIANISMS.>>IF I DIDN’T HEAR YOU, YOU WOULD SAY HEY? JUST TO GET YOU TO REPEAT SOMETHING, OR I COULD SAY THAT WAS A REALLY GREAT GAME, HEY? I RAN INTO MY FRIEND.>>Reporter: MANY ARE WORDS FOR FOOD WE EAT OR TRADEMARKS. AND REGIONAL WORDS LIKE USED IN MONTREAL. FOR INSTANCE, THE WORD FOR CONVENIENCE STORE, DEP FOR SHORT.>>I NEVER SAID CONVENIENCE STORE IN MY LIFE OR CORNER STORE. DO PEOPLE SAY THAT?>>Reporter: OTHER NOTABLE CANADIAN WORDS.>>POUTINE.>>TIM BITS.>>ALL DRESSED CHIPS.>>Reporter: OUT WEST, WORDS LIKE CHINOOK COME FROM INDIGENOUS LANGUAGES. NEWFOUNDLANDERS HAVE ENOUGH UNIQUE WORDS TO HAVE THEIR OWN DICTIONARY. THE PRAIRIES HAVE EXPRESSIONS LIKE COFFEE ROW.>>PEOPLE WHO GO TO TIM HORTONS AND TALK ABOUT POLITICS. IT IS SOMETHING LIKE, YOU KNOW, A WORD FROM THE COFFEE ROW IS THAT STEPHEN HARPER IS NOT GOING TO MAKE IT THIS TIME.>>Reporter: DIFFERENCES ASIDE, IT IS NOT JUST THE WORDS THAT MAKE US CANADIAN BUT THE WAY WE SAY THEM.>>Interview: THERE ARE FEATURES THAT ALLOW OTHER PEOPLE TO RECOGNIZE US AS CANADIANS. AMERICANS PROBABLY.>>Wendy: NEWFOUNDLAND AND LABRADOR, MADE ITS BROADWAY DEBUT TONIGHT. THE MUSICAL COME FROM AWAY IS ABOUT THE TOWN OF GANDER’S RESPONSE IN THE WAKE OF THE SEPTEMBER 11th ATTACKS. WHEN RESIDENTS ACCOMMODATED NEARLY 7,000 STRANDED PASSENGERS.>>>STRAIGHT AHEAD ON THE SUNDAY TALK, THE MARIJUANA MESS. DO POLICE RAIDS MAKE SENSE WHEN LEGALIZATION IS ON THE WAY? News reporting is never
a 9 to 5 job. Newsmen are
at work around the clock
in a variety of locations. Reflector set.
here a bit, that’s good. Now, let me take
a reading on your face. Oh yes, it’s 40
and a half. Fine. 2 to 1
ratio. Face
down? Face down
and face up, eh. Yeah. You wanted 15 — 30
seconds on you? And then you want me
to pass on to the harbour? Zoom on to a tight shot
of those boats in the harbour. Those boats there
in the harbour. We can mix to a B-Reel
at that point. Right.
Okay. A voice test
please, Andy. It looks like another record
year for the Port of Montreal. Elevators… Okay? Okay? Fine. You try to keep
the reflector here, Fred. Look up a
moment, Andy. It’s good. I like it. Gimme
a cue. Yup. [clear throat] But it’s not just
a matter of standing in front of
a film camera. A reporter has
to research his story first. And it may take
several hours to garner the
facts for a report which will occupy less
than 90 seconds of airtime. It looks like another record
year for the Port of Montreal. Elevators are still moving last
year’s bumper wheat crop and EXPO provided heavy business
in the first month of… He must think of ways to
illustrate his story as in this case, through the
use of silent film being shot simultaneously by
another cameraman elsewhere in
the harbour area. On the air, the two films will
be married so that silent films illustrates what
the reporter is talking about. [talking indistinctly] And these days
the job of TV reporter isn’t solely
a man’s domain. This girl was one of the first
women TV reporters in Canada. She came to television
via newspaper work and quickly
found a niche doing interviews from
a woman’s angle. News can be a rough
business however, and a girl reporter must be
equally adept at covering everything from a fashion show
to a prison riot. It’s in an interview
such as this however, that she can probably draw more
information from her subject than a wide-eyed, male
counterpart ever would. ..before you decide
to become a bunny? Well oddly enough,
I was a school teacher. I taught in a high school
just outside of Boston, in a little
tiny town. Taught speech, drama,
and English. What do you think of
the club’s philosophy of “Look but
don’t touch.” Well, it’s one thing I must
admit that we’ve gotten a lot of criticism on,
but I think it’s mainly because of
a misunderstanding. When the bunny… Rather the idea of having
bunnies was conceived, It was to be comparable
to what they have in Japan. The highest of
the geisha girl. Where they
provide conversation. They pour the little… The ceremony of
pouring their tea.>>Wendy: TIME FOR THE SUNDAY TALK. WHERE WE TAP INTO THE DEBATE OF THE WEEK. THIS WEEK, THE TWILIGHT ZONE OF POT. LONG TIME CRUSADERS MARK AND JODIE EMERY WERE ARRESTED. THEIR DISPENSARIES SHUT DOWN. GOVERNMENTS AND SMALL BUSINESSES GEAR UP FOR THE DAY POT IS LEGAL.>>I AM ACTUALLY NOT IN FAVOUR OF DECRIMINALIZING CANNABIS. I AM IN FAVOUR OF LEGALIZING IT.>>Wendy: JUSTIN TRUDEAU RAN ON A PROMISE TO LEGALIZE RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA USE IN CANADA.>>>>Prime Minister Justin Trudeau: IT WILL BE PART OF THE LIBERAL PARTY PLATFORM.>>LEGALIZATION IS BECOMING, IT IS BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE US.>>Wendy: ACTIVISTS REJOICED AND ENTREPRENEURS HAVE JUMPED INTO A GREEN GOLD RUSH. WITH DISPENSARIES POPPING UP ACROSS THE COUNTRY. ALL OF THEM STILL ILLEGAL.>>UNTIL WE CHANGE THE LAWS, THE LAWS STAND.>>Wendy: SOME CLAIM AFTER DECADES OF PROHIBITION, EVEN A MIXED SIGNAL IS A GREEN LIGHT.>>THEY ARE BREAKING THE LAW. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PROMISED THEY WOULD LEGALIZE MARIJUANA RIGHT AWAY.>>Wendy: THOSE WHO LIT UP TOO FAST ARE GETTING BURNED. THE HEALTH MINISTER IS PROMISING MORE CLARITY, WITH NEW LEGISLATION IN THE SPRING.>>PEOPLE NEED TO RECOGNIZE THAT THINGS TAKE TIME. IN IS SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE DONE CORRECTLY.>>Wendy: SOME SUSPECT THE UNCERTAINTY HIT SMALL PLAYERS AND BIG CORPORATE PLAYERS ARE ON THE SIDELINES WAITING TO GET IN ON THE ACTION.>>Interview: IN INDUSTRY IS BEING TAKEN AWAY FROM THE PEOPLE WHO BUILT IT THROUGH A GOVERNMENT ATTEMPT TO USURP THE CANNABIS CULTURE.>>Wendy: ONE THING IS CLEAR, THERE IS MONEY IN ALL THE SMOKE AND THE POLITICS OF POT WILL HAVE WINNERS AND LOSERS. I AM JOIN BY OUR PANELISTS. A WRITER AND AUTHOR FOR ESQUIRE. A RADIO TALKSHOW HOST IN TORONTO. AND A TALKSHOW HOST TOO. I WANT YOU TO MIX THINGS UP HERE, STEVEN, THE STORES, THE SHOPS ARE ILLEGAL. YOU THINK THE BUSTS WERE RIDICULOUS, WHY?>>NOT ONLY HAS THE LIBERAL GOVERNMENT PROMISED THEY WOULD LEGALIZE AND THE PRIME MINISTER JOKED ABOUT HIS OWN POT CONSUMPTION. IT IS A RIDICULOUS DOUBLE STANDARD. THEY HAVE BEEN IN POWER FOR A YEAR AND A HALF, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. EVERY DAY THAT PEOPLE ARE ARRESTED FOR POT BUSTS IS AN EMBARRASSMENT TO THE LAW. WE KNOW IT IS STRONG. THE GOVERNMENT HAS ELECTED TO CHANGE IT. THEY REFUSE TO CHANGE IT. THE POLITICS OF THE MATTER HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED. AND YET PEOPLE ARE GOING — THEY ARE PAYING TAXES AND THEY ARE GOING TO JAIL FOR DOING WHAT WE KNOW IS WIDELY ACCEPTED. THE PRIME MINISTER ACCEPTS.>>Wendy: IT DOESN’T SOUND LIKE YOU ACCEPT IT.>>THE GOVERNMENT PROMISED ELECTORAL REFORM. WE ARE NOT SEEING THAT. I THINK THE ISSUE HERE IS FOR A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES, TWO HAVE BEEN CRACKING DOWN, OTTAWA AND TORONTO IN PARTICULAR ON POT DISPENSARIES. I THINK THEY ARE FEELING THAT PEOPLE ARE FLOUTING THE LAW AND IT IS SENDING A MESSAGE, NOT JUST FOR THIS LAW BUT OTHERS AS WELL. THEY ARE CRACKING DOWN. IF ANYTHING, IF YOU WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO LEGALIZE MARIJUANA, THIS IS MORE THAN OF AN INCENTIVE TO DO IT THAN IF NOTHING HAPPENS. IN A STRANGE WAY, I THINK THAT POT ACTIVISTS AND PEOPLE WHO WANT TO LEGALIZE MARIJUANA SHOULD LOOK AT THIS AND SAY, YEAH, MORE PRESSURE ON THE GOVERNMENT, MAYBE THEY WILL GO THROUGH WITH THE LEGISLATION.>>Wendy: WHAT IS YOUR TAKE?>>I AGREE WITH STEVEN THAT THE RAIDS LOOK NOT GREAT FOR THE LIBERALS. BECAUSE I THINK ULTIMATELY THEY SHOULD HAVE DECRIMINALIZED DURING THE INTERIM PERIOD AS THEY DRAFTED LEGISLATION OR PUT FORWARD LEGISLATION. THE LAW IS THE LAW. THERE IS NO TECHNICAL GREY AREA HERE. IT IS QUITE BLACK AND WHITE. AND THEY ARE BREAKING THE LAW. IN THIS CASE, I QUESTION WHETHER THE LAW WAS APPLIED EQUALLY. IT SEEMS TO BE THAT JODIE AND MARC EMERY WERE TARGETED IN A WAY BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER DISPENSARIES IN TORONTO AND MONTREAL AND IN HAMILTON AND VANCOUVER THAT WERE NOT RAIDED. OPTICS WISE, IT DOES NOT LOOK THE BEST FOR THE LIBERALS. THE DISPENSARIES ARE IN VIOLATION OF THE LAW.>>Wendy: HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THAT? WHY ARE THEY TARGETING THE EMERYS.>>THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION, THAT IS A QUESTION FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT. BECAUSE THEY WERE ONE OF THE MOST OUTSPOKEN DISPENSARY OWNERS. THEY HAD THE BEST CASE AGAINST THEM. THEY WERE OPEN AND TRANSPARENT ABOUT THEIR ACTIVISM.>>IF THEY SAY, ACTUALLY, WE WILL NOT LEGALIZE MARIJUANA, FINE. ARREST THESE PEOPLE. SHUT THESE THINGS DOWN. THAT IS NOT WHAT THEY ARE SAYING.>>IF THE GOVERNMENT WANTS TO GIVE THEM AMNESTY AFTER THE LAW IS PASSED, THE GOVERNMENT WOULD BE IN A POSITION TO DO THAT. AS POINTED OUT, THERE IS A LAW. IF YOU SAY, WELL, BECAUSE THE LAW IS INTENDED TO BE CHANGED, WE WILL TURN A BLIND EYE TO PEOPLE BREAKING IT, YOU WILL HAVE EVENTUALLY ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO BREAK OTHER LAWS. EVERYBODY IS GETTING UPSET ABOUT THE MARIJUANA LEGISLATION. THERE ARE MANY, MANY ISSUES THE GOVERNMENT IS DEALING WITH. THE FACT IT HAS NOT LEGALIZED IT DOES BREAK ONE OF THE KEY PROMISES, IT HAS TO GO THAT ROUTE. IT PROMISED TO LEGALIZE MARIJUANA. THE IDEA THAT FOR SOME REASON BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOT DONE SOMETHING YET, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THE EXACT OPPOSITE IS RIDICULOUS.>>THEY ARE DOING THE EXACT OPPOSITE. THE LAW IS BROUGHT INTO DISREPUTE.>>THE LAW MAY BE IN DISREPUTE. THAT IS NOT A CRIME. IF SOMEONE WANTS TO MAKE A CASE AGAINST JUSTIN TRUDEAU — SAY THEY SHOULD PROSECUTE HIM HE ADMITTED TO SMOKING MARIJUANA, LET THEM DO THAT. THAT WOULD BE RIDICULOUS. THE GOVERNMENT HAS A POSITION, IT WILL BRING IN A LAW. UNTIL THEY DO THAT, THOUGH, YOU HAVE TO RESPECT THE LAW. THERE IS A LOT OF EVIDENCE, IT IS A PROSECUTION DECISION FOR THE EMERYS.>>THAT IS EVERYONE IN A 12 BLOCK RADIUS. IF YOU GO FOR A RUN, THERE IS NO QUESTION WHAT SIDE OF THE LAW PEOPLE ARE ON.>>I AGREE. THIS IS THE THING. SMOKING MARIJUANA IS UBIQUITOUS AND SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE TO THE POINT — WE HAVE AN IMAGE OF WHAT A POT HEAD LOOKS LIKE. I DON’T THINK THAT RINGS TRUE. YOU HAVE PROFESSIONALS, YOU HAVE MOTHERS, I THINK YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE YOUR NEIGHBOURS AND YOUR FRIENDS, AND YOUR COLLEAGUES THAT PROBABLY IMBIBE IN IT ONCE IN A WHILE.>>THE MINISTER HAS BEEN VERY CLEAR. I DON’T THINK HIS SOCIAL POSITION IS AT ISSUE AT ALL. AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, THEY HAVE NOT, YOU KNOW — THAT THEY WILL GO BACK ON THE PROMISE. WE ARE IN A GREY AREA AND EVERY DAY THAT SOMEONE GETS ARRESTED FOR THIS LAW THAT NOBODY BELIEVES IN, THE LAW IS IN DISREPUTE.>>TO SAY IT IS SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE, I AGREE. NOT EVERYONE ACCEPTS THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE 18 YEARS OLD SHOULD BE SMOKING MARIJUANA.>>NEITHER DO I.>>NEITHER DO I.>>THE THING IS THE CMA SAID AGE IS TOO YOUNG. THE GOVERNMENT TASK FORCE RECOMMENDS — >>UNTIL YOUR PREFRONTAL CORTEX IS DEVELOPED, YOU SHOULD NOT SMOKE.>>THERE IS A LOT OF DEBATE AND REGULATION THAT HAS TO HAPPEN BEFORE THE LAW GOES IN. THE GOVERNMENT WAS IRRESPONSIBLE TO PROMISE THIS QUICKLY, I AGREE. AT THE SAME TIME, THEY HAVE TO DO IT PROPERLY.>>THAT IS BEYOND THE WIT OF PEOPLE TO DO. IT WILL BE TWO YEARS BEFORE THIS COULD POSSIBLY HAPPEN. COLORADO HAS DONE IT. IT IS NOT IMPOSSIBLE. IT NEEDS CLARITY.>>WE ARE ASSUMING ALSO WHEN THE MAGICAL LEGISLATION POPS UP, STORE FRONT DISPENSARIES WILL BE…>>THERE IS BILLIONS OF DOLLARS AT STAKE WHEN IT IS LEGAL. HOW MUCH ABOUT THIS IS ABOUT MONEY?>>A LOT IS ABOUT MONEY AND A LOT IS ABOUT CONTROLLING THE MARKET. YOU SEE THE LARGER CORPORATE PLAYER MAKING THE ACTIVE PUSH TO KEEP DISPENSARY OWNERS OUT OF THE GAME. AND I THINK WHEN YOU HAVE THIS SORT OF, YOU KNOW, TUG-OF-WAR BETWEEN WHO CAN CONTROL THE MARKET, IT ENDS UP BEING THOSE WHO ARE THE BEST ORGANIZED, NOT JUST ON THE GROUND WITH GRASS ROOTS, THE BEST ORGANIZED IN TERMS OF GETTING THE COMMUNITY TO PETITION THEIR LOCAL M.P.S, TO SAY WE DON’T WANT STORE FRONT DISPENSARIES OR X, Y OR Z TYPE OF SELLING OF MARIJUANA, THOSE VOICES TEND TO WIN OUT. AND I THINK WE ARE GETTING AHEAD OF OURSELVES IN THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE CALLING THE LIBERALS HYPOCRITICAL. THEY HAVE NEVER SAID WE WILL ALLOW STORE FRONT DISPENSARIES AND YOU CAN WALK INTO A SHOP AND BE ABLE TO GET A POT COOKIE AND EAT IT WHEN YOU ARE 18. AND GO ABOUT YOUR DAY. AND IN FACT, THEY HAVE SIGNALLED QUITE THE OPPOSITE. BY HAVING ANNE McLELLAN HAD THE TASK FORCE AND BILL BLAIR THE MAIN POINT MAN ON THE FILE HAS SIGNALLED THEY WILL TAKE A HARDER LINE THAN I THINK PEOPLE LIKE THE EMERYS AND OTHER PEOPLE ON THE GROUND OF THIS CANNABIS CULTURE, IF YOU WILL, HAVE BEEN PUSHING FOR.>>THE IDEA THAT IT WILL BE UNANIMOUS AS TO HOW POT IS SOLD, IT IS FALSE. I MEAN KATHERINE WYNNE — SELLING IT AT THE LCBO. THE TASK FORCE CAME AGAINST THAT.>>Wendy: SHOPPERS DRUG MART OR ANOTHER CHAIN.>>EVERY PROVINCE WILL HAVE A DIFFERENT REGIME. THE LEGALIZATION, TO SAY THE EMERYS ARE VICTIMIZED AND ARE PAINTED AS VICTIMS, THERE WILL BE A LOT OF CONFUSION HOW POTENTIALLY IT IS SOLD. TO SAY THE DISPENSARIES SHOULD BE ABLE TO POP-UP LIKE GRASS IS FALSE TOO.>>Wendy: THEY HAVE BEEN AT THE FOREFRONT OF THE CHANGE. IT IS ONLY FAIR THAT THEY MAKE MONEY OFF IT?>>WHATEVER THE GOVERNMENT DECIDES IS FINE. WHATEVER FRAMEWORK THEY COME UP WITH FOR DOING THIS IS GREAT. THEY SHOULD NOT BE ARRESTED FOR DOING A LAW THAT NOBODY BELIEVES IN. VIOLATING A LAW NOBODY BELIEVES IN.>>NO. THE LIBERALS WERE NOT ELECTED BY EVERYONE IN CANADA. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DO NOT BELIEVE — THEY BELIEVE IN DECRIMINALIZATION, NOT LEGALIZATION. DO NOT USE THAT LANGUAGE. MANY PEOPLE DO. BUT MANY PEOPLE, IT IS A GREY ZONE.>>THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT BELIEVES IN IT. THERE IS A HUGE SOCIAL ACCEPTANCE. THE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO JAIL FOR IT. IF IT GETS SOLD TO A LARGE CORPORATION AND THEY HAVE MONOPOLY AND THAT IS THE DECISION THE GOVERNMENT COMES TO AND THE DISPENSARIES COME UP, SHUT THEM DOWN. IT SEEMS IRRESPONSIBLE TO KEEP ARRESTING THEM.>>BRINGING YOU BACK TO THE EMERYS, I THINK IF YOU SHUT OUT A SEGMENT OF THE POPULATION ON THE FOREFRONT OF THIS AND THE ONE THAT HAS CHANGED OUR ACCEPTANCE OF IT, YOU ARE GOING TO INEVITABLY CREATE SOME SORT OF, NOT BLACK MARKET, A GREY MARKET OF PEOPLE — THERE WILL BE A BLACK MARKET. FOR THE EMERYS TO CREATE A CANNABIS CULTURE IS FALSE. TEENAGERS IN CANADA CONSUME THE MOST CANNABIS OF ANY TEENAGER GROUP AROUND THE WORLD. THE EMERYS CAN — >>I AM NOT SAYING THE EMERYS ARE SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR CHANGING OUR ATTITUDE. PEOPLE LIKE THE EMERYS, PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN BRINGING CASES TO THE SUPREME COURT. PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE GROUND ORGANIZING. I THINK WE HAVE TO — WE OWE A LOT OF OUR POT ACCEPTANCE, IF YOU WILL, TO THEM.>>Wendy: GREAT DEBATE. IT IS NOT OVER. WE WILL SEE THE LEGISLATION IN JUNE. AND MAYBE NEXT YEAR IT WILL BE LAW. COMING UP, A FAMOUS COMEDIAN HAS A SOBERING MOMENT WHEN HIS CHILD COMES OUT AS TRANSGENDER.>>Interview: THE FIRST THING WHEN SHE TOLD US, LET HER BE SAFE.>>Wendy: COLIN MOCHRIE TWEETED ABOUT HIS TRANS DAUGHTER AND GOT A FLEET OF RESPONSE. THEY TALK ABOUT THEIR JOURNEY. ♪ [orchestral] ♪ ♪>>Wendy: COLIN MOCHRIE IS ONE OF CANADA’S FAVOURITE AND MOST RECOGNIZABLE FUNNY PEOPLE. NOT LONG AGO, HIS CHILD CAME OUT AS TRANSGENDER. AND SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT COME WITH THAT ARE NO LAUGHING MATTER. HE IS NOW A PASSIONATE ADVOCATE FOR TRANSGENDER RIGHTS. I RECENTLY SAT DOWN WITH COLIN AND KINLEY MOCHRIE ON THE VALUE OF FAMILY, LOVE AND UNDERSTANDING. IN A MOMENT. FIRST A LITTLE BACKGROUND.>>IT STARTED WITH AN UNFORTUNATE MILKING.>>Wendy: HE IS USED TO BEING THE CENTER OF ATTENTION. WHEN THE IMPROV SHOW WHOSE LINE IS IT ANYWAY MADE ITS WAY TO HOLLYWOOD, HE BECAME ONE OF THE STARS. AND WHEN HE RETURNED HOME TO CANADA, HE BECAME A GO-TO GUY FOR COMEDY. EARLIER THIS YEAR, HE TURNED THE SPOTLIGHT TOWARD HIS CHILD. WITH ONE SIMPLE TWEET… THE REACTION HAS BEEN OVERWHELMING. THE TWEET RECEIVED MORE THAN 17,000 LIKES. AND OPENED UP AN AVENUE OF DIALOGUE FOR HIS DAUGHTER. SHE REVEALED HERSELF AS TRANSGENDER TO HER FAMILY. NOW THAT HER TRANSITION IS PROBLEM, SHE IS SPREADING A MESSAGE OF SUPPORT TO OTHERS DEALING WITH GENDER IDENTITY QUESTIONS. I SAT DOWN WITH KINLEY AND COLIN MOCHRIE EARLIER THIS TORONTO. NICE TO MEET YOU.>>NICE TO MEET YOU TOO. A PLEASURE.>>Wendy: YOU ARE FAMILIAR. HOW DID THIS BEGIN?>>Interview: WELL, I HAD COME OUT TO MY MOM. MY DAD WAS OUT OF TOWN. AND IT WAS A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS, GETTING ALL THE INFORMATION, MAKING SURE WE ARE ON AN EVEN PLAYING FIELD. IT TOOK SOME TIME. I KNEW THAT SUPPORT AND ACCEPTANCE WAS ON THE OTHER SIDE. I WAS NOT WORRIED FOR A SECOND.>>Wendy: WHAT WAS IT LIKE THE FIRST TIME YOU GOT BACK AND YOU SAW KINLEY?>>Interview: IT WAS GREAT FOR ME. I WAS OUT OF TOWN. YOU GO THROUGH THIS THING, NOW MY CHILD CHANGED GENDERS, DOES THAT MEAN THAT PREVIOUS CHILD IS NOW GONE? THEN ONCE KINLEY CAME THROUGH THE DOOR, THAT’S MY KID. THE EXACT SAME KID WITH A DIFFERENT COAT ON. IT IS JUST BEING — LIKE ANYTHING, A NEW SITUATION ARISES. EDUCATING YOURSELF ABOUT IT AND KEEPING THE LINES OF COMMUNICATION OPEN.>>Wendy: YOU HAVE BEEN EDUCATING HIM ABOUT ALL THE PRONOUNS. PEOPLE ARE LEARNING THINGS.>>Interview: THERE IS SO MUCH INFORMATION. IT IS A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT MOST OF US DON’T GET. LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE HAVE BEEN CONVERSATIONS ABOUT LIKE SORT OF GENERATIONAL DIFFERENCES IN TERMS OF THE INFORMATION. THE TRUTH IS, LIKE, OUR GENERATION DIDN’T GET A LOT OF GREAT INFORMATION EITHER. LIKE A LOT OF IT HAD TO BE LEARNED, LIKE I HAD YEARS AGO, LIKE VERY LITTLE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IT REALLY — WHAT BEING TRANS MEANT. THERE WAS A BIG LEARNING CURVE THERE.>>Wendy: HOW IS THE ADJUSTMENT FOR YOU? DO YOU SLIP UP AND SAY A BAD WORD?>>Interview: IN THE EARLY DAYS, THERE WAS SLIP UPS WITH GENDER. AND NAME BECAUSE I HAD 26 YEARS OF THIS PERSON AND THEN HAD TO SWITCH. I THINK IT IS MUCH BETTER NOW. IT IS AT THE POINT WHERE I DO NOT THINK ABOUT IT. IT IS KINLEY, IT IS HER, IT IS SHE. IT HAS BEEN A WHILE, I THINK, SINCE I HAVE — I SLIPPED. THAT IS GOOD. WE ARE ALL LEARNING.>>Wendy: YOUR DAD, YOU HAVE BEEN PUBLIC WITH YOUR FRIENDS AND CLOSE PEOPLE. YOU SENT OUT A TWEET. WHAT WAS THAT LIKE, THE WHOLE WORLD REALIZING?>>Interview: IT DIDN’T — IT WAS UNEXPECTED, I THINK. LIKE, THE AMOUNT OF — LOOKING BACK AT IT, WHAT DID I EXPECT? YOU WERE PUTTING IT OUT ON PUBLIC FORUM. A LOT OF PEOPLE FOLLOW YOU.>>Interview: WE WERE IDEOTIC IN A WAY. OUR FRIENDS KNEW. SO WHEN I WAS GOING TO PUT THE TWEET OUT, I ASKED KINLEY, ARE YOU ALL RIGHT WITH THIS. I SUPPOSE PART OF ME KNEW THERE WAS A CHANCE. I DIDN’T REALLY THINK OF THE FULL RAMIFICATIONS. I THOUGHT I AM PUTTING THIS POSITIVE THING OUT THERE.>>Wendy: A LOT OF SUPPORT. YOU WERE ANGRY THAT SOME PEOPLE COULD NOT ADJUST.>>Interview: YEAH, THERE WAS SOME — I ALWAYS — >>Interview: WHEN I GO INTO A SITE, I SAY DON’T LOOK AT THE COMMENTS. AND THEN YOU START LOOKING AT IT. A LOT OF THE NEGATIVE COMMENTS, I WOULD SAY WERE MOSTLY THROUGH IGNORANCE. THERE WERE A FEW HATEFUL TROLL THINGS WHERE YOU GO, THERE IS NOTHING I CAN SAY TO THESE PEOPLE. ALL OF THEIR PROFILE PICTURES ARE SKULLS WITH KNIVES THROUGH THEM OR SOMETHING. THE ONES THAT I FELT WITH COMING FROM A PLACE OF IGNORANCE, I WOULD SAY EDUCATE YOURSELF ABOUT THIS. IT IS JUST SOMETHING ALIEN TO YOU. LEARN ABOUT IT AND MAYBE HAVE SOME EMPATHY TOWARD WHAT THIS PERSON AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD ARE GOING THROUGH.>>Wendy: A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE LAST FEW YEARS ARE LIKE FOCUSSING ON THIS. MAYBE FOR THE FIRST TIME. IT MUST BE EASIER NOW THAN IT WOULD BE SOMEONE A GENERATION BEFORE YOU?>>Interview: THERE IS NOW A REFERENCE POINT. IN CULTURE, LIKE THERE ARE SO MANY ICONIC FIGURES, OBVIOUSLY CAITLYN JENNER. I DON’T KNOW WHERE THE SHIFT HAPPENED. TRANSGENDER PEOPLE BECAME PART OF THE BIG CULTURAL CONVERSATION. IN TERMS OF HAVING A REFERENCE POINT, THERE IS A LONG WAY TO GO IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT THE WAY VIOLENCE IS DONE TOWARD TRANS PEOPLE AND A LOT OF INEQUITIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT CERTAINLY THERE IS A SHIFT HAPPENING. I AM THANKFUL FOR THAT.>>Wendy: I AM THINKING IT IS SORT OF LIKE IMPROV TECHNIQUE, WHERE YOU — YOU ARE SUPPORTIVE.>>Interview: IT IS. I THINK THAT ACTUALLY DID COME INTO IT A BIT. THERE WAS A THING IN IMPROV, THE BASIS OF ALL, YOU ACCEPT WHAT SOMEONE GAVE YOU AND YOU BUILD ON THAT. I THINK THAT DEB, MY WIFE AND I HAVE ACTUALLY TALKED THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS OF USING THAT MORE IN OUR LIFE, SAYING YES TO MORE THINGS. THINGS THAT MAY HAVE MADE US UNCOMFORTABLE OR WORRIED ABOUT. AND WE STARTED SAYING YES WITHIN LIMITS. IT HAS TAKEN US TO THESE AMAZING PLACES. AMAZING PEOPLE. I DO THINK IMPROV HELPED WITH THIS.>>Wendy: HERE WE ARE, NOW IN THE AGE OF TRUMP, THERE HAS BEEN ALL OF THIS PROGRESS FOR PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO BE THEMSELVES. ARE YOU NERVOUS THAT THERE WILL BE GROUND LOST?>>Interview: I MEAN, I AM NERVOUS, YEAH, OF COURSE I AM NERVOUS. IN TERMS OF GROUND BEING LOST, I MEAN, YES, BUT I THINK — I FEEL WE ARE AT A POINT WHERE WE ARE READY TO FIGHT. I THINK WE ARE JUST READY TO — BY HAVING THE VOICES BE HEARD AND NOT JUST LIKE TAKE IT ANYMORE. WE HAVE COME SO FAR. IT HAS BEEN HOWEVER MANY YEARS SINCE STONEWALL. THAT WAS THE BIGGEST TURNING POINT.>>Interview: I THINK THERE IS MORE SUPPORT THAN THERE EVER HAS BEEN. THERE CAN BE A LOT MORE. I DON’T THINK IT IS A FIGHT YOU WILL DO BY YOURSELF. YOU HAVE MANY ALLIES THAT SORT OF HELP.>>Wendy: ARE YOU NERVOUS FOR HER, THOUGH, IN THE AGE OF TRUMP?>>Interview: ABSOLUTELY. YOU ARE NERVOUS FOR YOUR CHILD ANYWAY. WHEN THIS JOURNEY HAPPENS, THE JOURNEY, IT HAS BECOME OUR WORD, THERE IS MORE FEAR. I MEAN, THE VERY FIRST THING, I THINK WHEN KINLEY TOLD US WAS, LET HER BE SAFE. BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO AREN’T AS ENLIGHTENED AS OTHERS. THERE IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE WORRY. YOU KNOW, I AM PROBABLY A LITTLE MORE BECAUSE OF THE TRANSITION, IT IS THAT COMFORTABLE WORRY WE HAVE.>>Wendy: AS PARENTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SHARING THIS WITH ME.>>Interview: THANK YOU.>>Wendy: IF YOU ENJOYED OUR INTERVIEW WITH KINLEY AND COLIN MOCHRIE, WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER GREAT CONVERSATIONS AND MORE ON OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL. GO TO… YOU CAN SUBSCRIBE AND LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK.>>>THE BATTLE FOR TRANS ACCEPTANCE HAS BEEN WAGED FOR DECADE. SHE WAS WOMAN ENOUGH TO BE A BOND GIRL. THAT DIDN’T MATTER TO THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT.>>Interview: CLASSIFIED STILL AS A MAN. I BREAK THE LAW EVERY DAY IF I USE THE WOMEN’S TOILET.>>Wendy: TURKEY’S PRESIDENT WANTS MORE POWER AND IS FU ♪ [orchestral] ♪ ♪>>Wendy: RELATIONS BETWEEN TURKEY AND KEY EUROPEAN COUNTRIES ARE BECOMING INCREASINGLY STRAINED. WE HEARD HARSH WORDS, EVEN INSULTS OVER GERMANY’S REFUSAL TO ALLOW TURKISH POLITICAL RALLIES IN THE COUNTRY. NOW, AN EVEN HOTTER DISPUTE IS EMERGING BETWEEN THE TURKS AND THE DUTCH. THE REPORT FROM ISTANBUL.>>Reporter: THE CROWD WAS SMALL OUTSIDE ISTANBUL DUTCH CONSULATE. THEY ARE PART OF A MUCH LARGER GROUP OF VOTER, TURKEY’S PRESIDENT WANTS TO HOLD ON. ERDOGAN GETS HIS WAY IN A REFERENDUM NEXT MONTH HE WILL CHANGE THE CONSTITUTION. DITCH THE PARLIAMENTARY SYSTEM AND BECOME THE SOLE LEADER OF THE COUNTRY. WITH HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF TURKISH VOTERS LIVING IN THE NETHERLANDS, WHAT BETTER CAMPAIGN FUEL THAN ALLEGATIONS OF AN ANTI-MUSLIM, ANTI-TURKEY.>>Interview: I WOULD CALL THE WHOLE CABINET OF TURKEY PERSONA NON GRATA FOR MONTHS.>>Reporter: THE FAR RIGHT LEADER IS DOING WELL AHEAD OF THE ELECTION IN THE NETHERLANDS. IF HIS ANTI-IMMIGRANT, ANTI-ISLAM RHETORIC IS WORKING, WITH A BETTER WAY TO RILE UP VOTERS IN THE FINAL STRETCH. SO TRYING, IT SEEMS, TO KEEP MILLDERS AT BAY, RALLIES WITH CANCELLED. THE TURKEY FOREIGN MINISTER DARED OFFICIALS TO TRY AND STOP HIM FROM ENTERING THEIR COUNTRY. THE DUTCH YANKED HIS FLIGHT’S PERMISSION TO LAND AND TOOK IT A STEP FURTHER. TURKEY’S FAMILY MINISTER WAS BLOCKED NOT JUST FROM HOLDING AN EVENT, BUT FROM GOING TO THE TURKISH CONSULATE. THE DUTCH RIOT POLICE AND THEIR DOGS CRACKED DOWN ON TURKISH PROTESTERS. TURKEY’S FOREIGN MINISTER CALLED IT ALL UNJUSTIFIABLE AND TOLD THE NETHERLANDS AMBASSADOR WHO IS OUT OF THE COUNTRY, TO NOT BOTHER COMING BACK. HE IS PROMISING MORE RETALIATION. UNTIL THE NETHERLANDS APOLOGIZE. PROTESTERS EGGED THE DUTCH EMBASSY OVERNIGHT. THIS MORNING, A MAN MANAGED TO SCALE THE DUTCH CONSULATE FLAG POLE AND RAISE THE TURKISH FLAG. IT WAS QUICKLY REPLACED. BUT ERDOGAN’S YOUNG SUPPORTERS HAVE THEIR OWN VERSION OF REVENGE. BUYING ORANGES AND STABBING THEM. ORANGE IS THE DUTCH NATIONAL COLOUR. IT MAY BE BORDERING ON ABSURD, THE REPERCUSSIONS FOR TURKS ARE VERY REAL. FOR THOSE WORRIED THEIR COUNTRY IS DRIFTING AWAY FROM THE WEST, AND FOR THE TURKS WHO CALL EUROPE HOME. WE WANT PEACE, HE SAYS. HE DON’T WANT RESENTMENT. WHAT THEY HAVE IS A DIPLOMATIC MESS. AND MORE EUROPEAN DOORS SLAMMING SHUT. CBC NEWS.>>Wendy: DENMARK IS WEIGHING IN ON THE FRICTION WITH TURKEY. THE DANISH PRIME MINISTER SUGGESTED HIS TURKISH COUNTERPART NOT COME ON A PLANNED STATE VISIT LATER THIS MONTH, UNTIL THE TENSIONS BETWEEN THE NETHERLANDS AND TURKEY COOLS OFF.>>>NOW, STAY TUNED FOR OUR LOOK BACK.>>I FEEL ABSOLUTELY MARVELLOUS. THANK YOU.>>DID YOU ALWAYS WANT TO BE A WOMAN?>>Wendy: HOW CANADIANS LEARNED ABOUT TRANSGENDER PEOPLE THROUGH THE DECADES. ♪ [CBC News Network theme] ..but for another
category of goods that has transformed
our world. The gadgets, or the tools,
of the electronic media. Here are some
film projectors. The movies. I wonder what it
really means though, to be able to
flick a switch… [turns dial;
projector begins to whirr] ..and to bring in any part
of the world. To see the most personal
relationships of mankind acted out
before us. It’s so easy,
isn’t it. [turns off projector] A handy,
instantaneous gadget. The tape recorder. Small, portable, can go
and has gone everywhere. ♪ [up beat] India, just
a button’s push away. Space means nothing. [turns off machine] With a record collection,
neither space nor time matter. We can,
all of us, share in everything from
anywhere and anytime. Well back to box day
with the flick of a wrist. Fabian, Frankie Avalon,
the voice of FDR. Petruska,
the music of Arabia, the sound of a sports car
race in Florida. Even the most puritan among us,
engages now each and every day in an absolute Roman
carnival of the senses. There are news sights,
new sounds, new fabrics,
new textures. We’re all
dedicated libertines. And radio. While we’ve heard the sound of
symphonies, of riots, and of battles, and all without leaving
the living room. And now radio goes with
us to beach parties. ♪ ♪ Or to
the baseball game. And each of us with our own
private slice of the modern age. We’re never out
of touch. [turns off radio] And television. Well I wonder who
really knows what it means. To have pouring into
our homes, day after day, the cowboys,
the rock and roll singers, the statesmen,
the philosophers, the whole debate
of our modern world. Well surely our
sense of space, of time, of cause and effect,
must be changing. And our attitudes to life and
love, to religion, politics and leisure,
what of them? Oh, I almost forgot. The telephone. We can afford to take it for
granted because it has been around
so long. [drops coin into phone] [phone rings] Surely though, our sense of
space, of distance, the relationship of person
from person no longer means what
it did. And you’ll notice that
the image of the telephone goes with
the teenager, because he’s the only one
completely at home using it. And he uses it
all the time. [phone buzzes] That’s annoying,
isn’t it? To be held up
even five minutes. Must be teenager on
the other end. Well,
there they are. Our new electronic media
or our new gadgets. You push a button
and the world is yours. You know how they talk about
the world getting smaller? Well it’s thanks to these
that it is. Everywhere is now our
own neighbourhood. We know what it’s like
to go on safari in Kenya, or to have an audience
with the Pope, to order and cognac
in Paris cafe. ♪ ♪ But not only is the world
getting smaller, it’s becoming more available
and more familiar to our minds
and to our emotions. The world is now
a global village. ♪ ♪ [♪♪♪]>>Wendy: OUR INTERVIEW WITH COLIN MOCHRIE AND HIS DAUGHTER KINLEY GOT US THINKING ABOUT TRANSGENDER PEOPLE. LONG BEFORE THE FORMER ATHLETE CAME OUT… .>>THE FIRST, THE BEST KNOWN, THE SEX CHANGE OPERATION WAS ONE PERFORMED ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO, ON A YOUNG JORGSON WHO CAME BACK AS CHRISTINE. THE STORY WAS TOLD AROUND THE WORLD. THERE WERE APPLICATIONS FROM HUNDREDS OF YOUNG MEN WHO WANTED TO UNDERGO THE SAME KIND OF OPERATION.>>WELL, DIANA, NOW THAT YOU ARE OFFICIALLY A WOMAN, HOW DOES IT FEEL?>>MARVELLOUS, THANK YOU.>>DID YOU CALLS WANT TO BE A WOMAN?>>AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER, YES.>>WHAT DO YOU MISS MOST ABOUT BEING A MAN?>>Interview: I NEVER WAS REALLY INTENT TO BE A MAN PSYCHOLOGICALLY. I MISS NOTHING ABOUT MY MALEHOOD.>>BORN A WOMAN, RECENTLY, AFTER A NUMBER OF MEDICAL OPERATIONS, DAVIS BECOME A MAN.>>Interview: I WAS ONLY A KID. I FELT DIFFERENT. I KNEW I WASN’T — MY MIND WAS SAYING I WAS — MY MIND WAS TOLD MALE.>>Reporter: CAROLYN’S SURGERY GAVE HER THE WOMAN’S BODY SHE DREAMT OF A MODEL’S SALARY OF $200,000 A YEAR. NO ONE QUESTIONED HER FEMININITY. SHE EVEN PLAYED A BOND GIRL IN A BOND FILM. THE GOVERNMENT DOES NOT ACCEPT THE CHANGE.>>I AM CLASSIFIED AS A MAN. I BREAK THE LAW IF I USE THE WOMEN’S TOILET. IF I COMMITTED A CRIME, I WOULD BE IN A MEN’S PRISON.>>Wendy: FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 45 YEARS, THE BIGGEST NIGHT IN MEN’S CURLING IN THIS COUNTRY WAS BACK IN ST. JOHN’S. AND THERE WAS A LOT OF EMOTION AT THIS YEAR’S BRIER, WITH A TOMORROW TOWN LEGEND SQUARING OFF AGAINST A LONG TIME RIVAL.>>WHAT YOU NEED TO BE THE CANADIAN CHAMPION.>>Wendy: BRAD GUSHUE FUELLED BY SUPPORTERS LED TEAM NEWFOUNDLAND AND LABRADOR TO VICTORY. IN A NAIL BITER. IT WAS 6-6 IN THE LAST END. DESPITE MORE THAN A DOZEN BRIER APPEARANCES, THIS IS GUSHUE’S FIRST CHAMPIONSHIP WIN.>>>THAT “THE NATIONAL” FOR THIS SUNDAY NIGHT. FOR NEWS AT ANY HOUR, YOU CAN ALWAYS GO TO OUR WEBSITE, CBCNEWS.CA. I’M WENDY MESLEY. THANK YOU FOR WATCHING. [♪♪♪]

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