The National for October 10, 2018 — Hurricane Michael, Forgotten Rohingya, Jean Chretien


>>ON THIS WEDNESDAY NIGHT, WIND, WATER AND VIOLENT DESTRUCTION. HURRICANE MICHAEL EXPLODES INTO FLORIDA, TRACKING THE STRONGEST U.S. STORM IN 50 YEARS.>>I’VE ACTUALLY NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE IT.>>Adrienne: THE LIVES OF THE FORGOTTEN ROHINGYA. WHERE HOPE LIES FAR BEHIND. NAHLAH AYED HAS AN EXCLUSIVE.>>>AND JEAN CHRETIEN SPEAKING HIS MIND AS EVER.>>YOU KNOW WHAT, IT’S BECAUSE THEY CUT THE TAXES FOR THE RICH AND THEY NEED MONEY.>>ON THE TARIFFS, NAFTA NEGOTIATIONS AND LOVE OF QUESTION PERIOD. YOU CAN TAKE THE FORMER PRIME MINISTER OUT OF THE COMMONS, BUT — THIS IS “THE NATIONAL”.>>Ian: RESIDENTS IN ITS PATH WERE WARNED GET OUT OF THE WAY. MANY WERE ORDERED TO. THOSE WHO DID NOT, EXPERIENCED A BEAST OF A STORM THAT GOT MORE FIERCE AS IT HEADED TOWARD THEM. ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL TO HIT THE COASTAL U.S. IN THE LAST CENTURY AND THE STRONGEST RECORDED ALONG THE PANHANDLE. HURRICANE MICHAEL CAME CRASHING ASHORE MID AFTERNOON. ITS 250 KILOMETRES PER HOUR WINDS EASILY TOPPLING BEACH FRONT HOMES, TEARING OFF ROOFS AND CAUSING WIDESPREAD DAMAGE TO COUNTLESS HOUSES AND BUSINESSES.>>THIS IS A HURRICANES OF THE WORST KIND.>>Ian: THE BIGGEST THREAT. THE STORM SURGE. UP TO FOUR METRES HIGH. SWAMPING COASTAL COMMUNITIES WHERE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTS IGNORED MANDATORY EVACUATION ORDERS PERHAPS NOT REALIZING HOW STRONG MICHAEL WOULD BE.>>THIS IS NATURE’S FURY. PROBABLY LIKE NEVER SEEN BEFORE.>>Ian: THAT’S BECAUSE OVERNIGHT, WHAT WAS A CATEGORY 2 HURRICANE RAPIDLY GREW STRONGER. WHEN IT MADE LANDFALL BETWEEN PANAMA CITY AND MEXICO BEACH, FLORIDA, IT WAS JUST SHY OF CATEGORY 5.>>WE ARE CONCERNED THAT MANY CITIZENS CHOSE NOT TO HEED THOSE WARNINGS, BUT WE’RE PREPARED WITH SEARCH AND RESCUE TEAMS.>>Reporter: EVEN SEASONED WEATHER REPORTERS SEEM ILL-PREPARED, BUT HELP IS NEARBY. THOUSANDS OF NATIONAL GUARD TROOPS WERE IN STAGING AREAS, READY TO HELP WITH THE RESCUE EFFORTS ONCE IT’S SAFE TO DO THAT.>>WE’RE TURNING 100% OF OUR FOCUS ON SEARCH AND RESCUE AND RECOVERY.>>Ian: HYDRO CREWS FROM ACROSS THE U.S. AND CANADA ARE PREPARING TO MOVE IN AS WELL. DOWNED TREES AND POWER LINES HAVE LEFT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF HOMES WITHOUT ELECTRICITY. AND MICHAEL’S WRATH ISN’T SPENT YET.>>CITIZENS IN GEORGIA NEED TO WAKE UP AND PAY ATTENTION.>>Ian: THE HURRICANE HAS MOVED INLAND. TONIGHT, MICHAEL IS GRINDING ACROSS GEORGIA, PACKING POWERFUL WINDS, TORRENTIAL RAIN AND THE THREAT OF TORNADOES. MICHAEL DID CATCH A LOT OF PEOPLE OFF GUARD, NOT ONLY BECAUSE IT ONLY STARTED FORMING ON MONDAY, BUT ALSO BECAUSE OF HOW RAPIDLY IT INTENSIFIED APPROACHING THE PANHANDLE. ONCE AGAIN, CBC METEOROLOGIST JOHANNA WAGSTAFFE IS TRACKING THE STORM FOR US. A LOT OF PEOPLE SURPRISED BY HOW QUICKLY MICHAEL GREW SO STRONG. WHAT WAS GOING ON?>>Reporter: A COUPLE OF FACTORS CAME TOGETHER. FIRST OF ALL, FLORIDA JUST HAD ITS WARMEST SEPTEMBER EVER ON RECORD AND THAT HAS CONTRIBUTED TO EXCEPTIONALLY WARM WATERS IN THE EASTERN GULF OF MEXICO. THAT’S THE FUEL THAT MICHAEL NEEDED TO GROW. WE ALSO HAD VERY LITTLE WIND SHEAR, THAT IS WINDS OF DIFFERENT SPEEDS THAT CAN HELP TEAR A STORM APART. AND FINALLY, MICHAEL DID GO THROUGH THIS RAPID INTENSIFYING IN LESS THAN A DAY. THAT’S PART OF THE REASON THE STORM WILL REMAIN SO STRONG AS IT HEADS TO THE CAROLINAS OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.>>Ian: A REMINDER HOW THESE STORMS CAN BE SO PREDICTABLE. IN THE COVERAGE, THERE IS A BUZZ WORD, THIS TIME HEARING ABOUT HOT TOWERS?>>YES, I WAS SURPRISED THIS WORD WAS BEING USED. IT’S A VERY METEOROLOGICAL TERM. IT’S BASICALLY A VERY TALL THUNDERSTORM CELL. I THINK WE HAVE A PICTURE OF A VERTICAL PROFILE OF A RADAR SHOT. THESE THUNDERSTORMS CELLS, THESE HOT TOWERS RISE HIGHER THAN JET LINERS FLY AND THIS IS AN INDICATION HOW MUCH UPDRAFT AND DOWN DRAFT IS HAPPENING IN THE HURRICANE. THESE HOT TOWERS FORM AROUND THE EYE. AND THE BASIC PREMISE OF A HURRICANE ENGINE IS PULLING IN THOSE VERY HOT WATERS, THOSE WARM TEMPERATURES, AS THEY RISE THAT WARM AIR CONDENSES INTO LIQUID AND RELEASES LATENT HEAT ENERGY AND THAT DRIVES THE STORM AND CAUSES IT TO INTENSIFY. ONE STUDY HAS SHOWN, ANY TIME WE SEE THESE HOT TOWERS, THEY’RE TWICE AS LIKELY TO INTENSIFY RAPIDLY OVER THE NEXT SIX HOURS AND THAT IS ABSOLUTELY WHAT WE’VE SEEN WITH MICHAEL.>>Ian: AS ALWAYS, SO WELL EXPLAINED. THANKS, JO.>>YOU’RE WELCOME.>>Ian: AN INCREDIBLE VIEW FROM INSIDE THE EYE WALL OF THE HURRICANE. THIS IS TAKEN BY U.S. AIR FORCE RESERVE PILOT TODAY. HIS PERSPECTIVE AND HIS STORY WILL BE OUR “MOMENT OF THE DAY”.>>Rosemary: HERE’S A LOOK AT WHAT ELSE WE’RE WORKING ON. HOSPITAL WORKERS IN WINNIPEG SAY THEY’RE ON THE FRONT LINES OF A HEALTH CRISIS. WHY THEY’RE BEING ATTACKED BY PATIENTS.>>Ian: A STORY FROM INSIDE MYANMAR. NAHLAH AYED TELLS US WHAT HAPPENED TO THE ROHINGYA MUSLIMS STILL TRAPPED IN CAMPS.>>Adrienne: A NEW TWIST IN A GROWING MYSTERY. WHAT HAPPENED TO JOURNALIST JAMAL KHASHOGGI? HIS FIANCE WANTS TO BELIEVE HE’S STILL ALIVE. THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE MARRIED THIS WEEK IN TURKEY, BUT MORE THAN A WEEK AFTER HE DISAPPEARED, HER HOPE IS FADING, SO SHE ASKEDED U.S. PRESIDENT AND THE FIRST LADY FOR THEIR HELP. PAUL HUNTER HAS THE RESPONSE.>>Reporter: THE FEW IMAGES ARE TANTALIZING IN INCONINCLUSIVE, THAT’S THE SAUDI CONSULATE AND THAT IS JOURNALIST JAMAL KHASHOGGI GOING INTO IT LAST TUESDAY. HE’S NOT BEEN SEEN SENSE. THE PRESUMPTION, SAUDI AGENTS WERE WAITING INSIDE WHERE TURKISH AUTHORITIES BELIEVE HE WAS CAPTURED, KILLED AND PERHAPS DISMEMBERED. THE SAUDIS DENY ALL OF IT.>>IT’S A TERRIBLE THING.>>Reporter: TODAY, DONALD TRUMP JOINED THE GROWING INTERNATIONAL CALL FOR ANSWERS FROM SAUDI ARABIA.>>IT’S VERY SAD SITUATION, VERY BAD SITUATION, AND WE WANTED TO GET TO THE BOTTOM IT OUT.>>Reporter: KHASHOGGI WAS A FIERCE CRITIC OF SAUDI POLICIES, SO MUCH SO HE FLED SAUDI ARABIA TO LIVE IN EXILE IN THE U.S. LAST YEAR. TODAY, TURKISH NEWS REPORTS SHOWED IMAGES THEY SAY ARE OF A SAUDI ASSASSINATION SQUAD WHO FLEW TO TURKEY AND LEFT ON THE SAME DAY KHASHOGGI DISAPPEARED. ONE OF THE AGENTS REPORTEDLY BROUGHT ALONG A BONE SAW. POLICE ARE LOOKING FOR THIS VAN SEEN DRIVING AWAY FROM THE CONSULATE, EVEN AS KHASHOGGI’S FIANCE STOOD BY OUT IN THE STREET WAITING. BACK IN WASHINGTON, DEMONSTRATORS STOOD OUTSIDE THE SAUDI EMBASSY DEMANDING EXPLANATION FOR ALL OF IT. ON CAPITOL HILL, U.S. LAWMAKERS LIKEWISE EXPRESSED OUTRAGE.>>IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE FOR ANY SOVEREIGN STATE TO BEHAVE IN THIS FASHION. IT’S THE LAW OF THE JUNGLE AND WE WILL NOT ACCEPT IT.>>Reporter: IF THE SAUDIS DID GRAB KHASHOGGI, HE HIMSELF MAY HAVE BEEN UNSURPRISED. IN AN INTERVIEW THIS PAST SPRING HE TOLD CBC NEWS THAT SOON AFTER HE FLED SAUDI ARABIA LAST YEAR, AUTHORITIES WENT AFTER HIS FRIENDS, ROUNDING THEM UP, ARRESTING THEM.>>AND I BEING AWAY FROM HOME, BUT WHEN I SEE WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM, I THINK I DID THE RIGHT CHOICE. EVEN THOUGH IT IS VERY HURTFUL TO BE AWAY FROM HOME.>>Reporter: IN THAT CBC INTERVIEW, KHASHOGGI SAID IT’S CRUCIAL THAT INDEPENDENT VOICES BE HEARD IN SAUDI ARABIA JUST AS HIS VOICE IS BEING HEARD NOW. WHATEVER HIS FATE.>>Adrienne: SO, PAUL, WE KNOW CANADIAN OFFICIALS HAVEN’T SAID MUCH, YOU KNOW, THEY’RE CONCERNED, WAITING FOR MORE INFORMATION, BUT WHAT ABOUT OTHER COUNTRIES LIKE BRITAIN?>>Reporter: WELL, THERE ARE CERTAINLY CALLS FOR THE SAUDIS TO EXPLAIN WHAT WENT DOWN IN THAT CONSULATE. THE U.N. WANTS A “PROMPT INDEPENDENT AND INTERNATIONAL INVESTIGATION”. THE BRITISH FOREIGN SECRETARY HAS CALLED FOR URGENT ANSWERS AND SAYS FRIENDSHIP DEPENDS ON SHARED VALUES. FOR ITS PART, THE TURKISH GOVERNMENT RESPONSE SEEMS TO BE LEAKING TO THE PRESS ALL THE GRISLY SPECULATION TO PUT HEAT ON THE SAUDIS. PRESSURE IS ON FOR SAUDI ARABIA TO SAY OR DO SOMETHING ON THIS. AND SOON.>>Adrienne: THANKS, PAUL. LET’S BRING THINGS BACK TO THIS COUNTRY. AND A DISTURBING DEVELOPMENT IN MANITOBA WHERE METHAMPHETAMINE ARE TAKING A HORRIBLE TOLL AND WHERE THE PROVINCE IS STRUGGLING TO EASE THEIR GRIP. CHEAPER THAN OPIOIDS, METH COMES WITH LESS RISK OF OVERDOSE, BUT IS CAUSING CHAOS IN WINNIPEG EMERGENCY ROOMS. METH-RELATED VISITS HAVE SPIKED, JUMPING FROM 15 A MONTH FIVE YEARS AGO TO AVERAGE OF 207. THAT’S ALMOST 14 TIMES HIGHER. METH CAN ALSO TRIGGER VIOLENT ERRATIC BEHAVIOR. THAT’S A REAL LIFE CONCERN FOR FRONT LINE WORKERS.>>Reporter: THIS IS THE SECURITY VIDEO FROM THE E.R. OF WINNIPEG’S LARGEST HOSPITAL. WATCH THE MAN WITH THE DARK HAIR. HE’S A PATIENT. THE MAN APPROACHING IS A NURSE. IN A SPLIT SECOND THE PARITY ATTACKS. SECURITY INTERVENES. THE NURSE AND THREE GUARDS ENDED UP WITH MINOR INJURIES. THIS NURSE SAYS METH RELATEGALITATED VIOLENCE IS BECOMING COMMON.>>VERBALLY ABUSED, THREATENED, YOU NAME IT, EVERYTHING. I’VE BEEN CALLED EVERY NAME IN THE BOOK.>>Reporter: IN THIS CASE, THE POLICE TOOK THE MAN INTO CUSTODY AND SAID METH IS A FACTOR. IT’S AN EXTREME EXAMPLE, BUT NURSES UNION SAYS VIOLENCE HAS DOUBLED OVER THE LAST YEAR. THEY’RE CALLING FOR TIGHTER SECURITY, INCLUDING WEAPONS.>>WE’RE PUTTING OUR SANITY, OUR WELL-BEING, OUR LIVELIHOOD AT RISK.>>Reporter: E.R.s ARE ONE OF THE FRONT LINES IN WHAT IS CALLED A CRISIS IN WINNIPEG.>>IT’S STARTING TO KEEP ME AWAKE AT NIGHT.>>Reporter: POLICE SAY IT’S A BIGGER PROBLEM THAN FENTANYL. METH IS CHEAPER, LONGER AND LESS LETHAL HIGH.>>IT’S A COMBINATION OF ALL THOSE THAT MADE IT THE DRUG OF CHOICE FOR THE CITY OF WINNIPEG.>>Reporter: AT WINNIPEG’S ONLY FUNDED DETOX FACILITY, METH ACCOUNTS FOR HALF THE CASES. STAFF ARE SPECIALLY TRAINED.>>WE’RE DEFINITELY TIGHT. I’VE HAD TO DOUBLE SOME OF MY STAFF IN SOME AREAS BECAUSE OF THE POTENTIAL OF VIOLENCE.>>Reporter: IT’S THE PEOPLE NOT GETTING HELP SHOWING UP IN E.R.s. NURSES WILL GET MORE METH TRAINING, BUT SOME ARE CONSIDERING JOB CHANGES.>>EXPECTING TO KIND OF GET PUNCHED, KICKED, VERBALLY ABUSED, I WOULD CONSIDER MAYBE SOMETHING ELSE.>>Reporter: FOR MONTHS, THE MANITOBA GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN UNDER INCREASING PRESSURE TO COME UP WITH A METH STRATEGY. THE PROVINCE SAYS IT WILL SOON BE MAKING AN ANNOUNCEMENT. CAMERON MacINTOSH, CBC NEWS, WINNIPEG.>>Rosemary: TURNING NOW TO ANOTHER FRONT IN THE DRUG CONSUMPTION. RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA ONE WEEK AWAY. SOME CANADIANS CALL IT PROGRESSIVE VICTORY, OTHERS THINK IT’S A BIG MISTAKE. EITHER WAY, EXPECT SOME BUMPS. IT ONLY APPLIES TO CERTAIN CANNABIS PRODUCTS, THE PLANTS, BUDS, SEEDS. EDIBLES ARE STILL LEGALLY OFFLINE FOR THE NEXT YEAR. NOT THAT SOME CRAFTY WEB-BASED ENTREPRENEURS SEEM CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. CATHERINE CULLEN HAS THE GOODS.>>LIKE I WENT TO A CANDY SHOP, ALL THESE BEAUTIFUL COLOURS.>>Reporter: IT SEEMS LIKE YOU CAN BUY JUST ABOUT ANYTHING ONLINE THESE DAYS. AND THAT INCLUDES ILLEGAL POT PRODUCTS.>>IT HAS THIS LURE OF PROFESSIONALISM.>>Reporter: AND IT IS EFFICIENT. IT TOOK LESS THAN 48 HOURS FOR OUR COLLEAGUES AT RADIO-CANADA TO GET A DELIVERY WITH MORE THAN $100 WORTH OF POT PRODUCTS, INCLUDING EDIBLES AND CONCENTRATES THAT WON’T LEGALLY GO ON SALE FOR ANOTHER YEAR. YOU JUST HAD TO SHOW A COPY OF A DRIVER’S LICENSE. MORE THAN A DOZEN CANADIAN FOCUSED WEBSITES ARE SELLING SIMILAR PRODUCTS AND WITH LEGALIZATION LOOMING, THERE IS POTENTIAL FOR CONFUSION.>>IT LOOKS LIKE PRO, IT’S RESEALIBLE. THIS LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING THAT COULD HAVE BEEN DISPENSED BY A PHARMACY. OTHER THAN THE FACT IT’S CANDY AND HAS SUGAR. SO I COULD SEE PEOPLE BEING CONFUSED BECAUSE IT LOOKS LEGITIMATE.>>Reporter: BUT THE MINISTER IN CHARGE IS ADAMANT. IT IS ILLEGAL. IT IS CONTRARY TO THE EXISTING LAW AND WILL BE AGAINST THE LAW WHEN THE NEW LEGISLATION COMES INTO EFFECT.>>Reporter: ANY LEGAL POT PRODUCT HAS TO BE SOLD BY A FEDERALLY LICENSED PRODUCER THROUGH A PROVINCIALLY SANCTIONED SOURCE. PACKAGING WILL HAVE AN OFFICIAL THC SYMBOL AND HEALTH WARNING. EDIBLES AND CONCENTRATES WILL BE ILLEGAL FOR THE FIRST YEAR.>>I ENCOURAGE YOU TO BRING THAT TO THE ATTENTION OF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THE JURISDICTION THAT IS OPERATING AND GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THEIR JOB.>>Reporter: WE DID ASK THE RCMP WHAT IT HAD TO SAY. THE FORCE SAYS IT FOCUSES ON” THE MOST SIGNIFICANT CRIMINAL THREATS AND RISK TO CANADIANS”, SUGGESTING IF THIS ISSUE DIDN’T MEET ITS THRESHOLD, PERHAPS ANOTHER AGENCY MIGHT LOOK INTO IT. MAKING IT NOT QUITE CLEAR WHO IS KEEPING AN EYE ON THE INTERNET.>>Rosemary: JUST HOW EASY WILL IT TO BE GET APPROVED PRODUCTS NEXT WEEK DEPENDS ON WHERE YOU LIVE. 90% LIVE WITHIN TEN CLICKS OF A LIQUOR STORE, BUT ONLY 35% WILL LIVE THAT CLOSE TO A POT RETAILER. 40% OF QUÉBECERS. IN ATLANTIC CANADA AND THE PRAIRIES, IT WILL BE ROUGHLY HALF. ONTARIANS WON’T HAVE ANY OUTLETS UNTIL NEXT APRIL. THEY CAN ORDER ONLINE OR GROW THEIR OWN.>>Adrienne: WE’RE WATCHING SEVERAL OTHER DEVELOPING STORIES, INCLUDING A ROCKY DAY FOR NORTH AMERICAN STOCK MARKETS. THE T.S.X. FELL JUST OVER 336 POINTS. THAT IS THE BIGGEST DROP IN MORE THAN THREE YEARS. WHILE IN THE U.S., THE DOW PLUNGED MORE THAN 800. THAT IS ITS WORST IN EIGHT MONTHS. THE TECH SECTOR WAS HIT ESPECIALLY HARD, APPLE, AMAZON, NETFLIX AND Facebook ALL IN THE RED. WHAT IS HAPPENING? SOME ANALYSTS ATTRIBUTE TO THE SELLOFF TO HIGHER INVESTMENT RATES IN THE U.S. AND FEARS OF A LOOMING HIKE IN CANADA. THOUGH A LITTLE PERSPECTIVE IS ALWAYS A GOOD THING F YOU LOOK AT THE MARKETS, THE DOW AND NASDAQ ARE BOTH UP 12% AND THE S&P MORE THAN 9.>>THE SOLE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT MOTOR VEHICLE BEING ON THE ROAD ON SATURDAY RESTS WITH NAUMAN HUSSAIN.>>Adrienne: ALSO TONIGHT, A 28-YEAR-OLD MAN ARRESTED IN CONNECTION WITH SATURDAY’S HORRIFIC LIMOUSINE CRASH. THEY SAID HE IS THE OPERATOR OF PRESTIGE LIMOUSINE AND HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH CRIMINALLY NEGLIGENT HOMICIDE. HE WAS TOLD BY STATE AND OFFICIALS THAT THE DRIVER HE HIRED WASN’T PROPERLY LICENSED AND THE VEHICLE WAS DEEMED UNSERVICEABLE LAST MONTH. A LAWYER SAYS ALL THE SAFETY ISSUES HAD BEEN RESOLVED. THE OWNER OF THE CALGARY TRUCKING COMPANY INVOLVED IN THE HUMBOLDT BRONCOS BUS CRASH HAS BEEN CHARGED. THE TRANSPORT MINISTER SAYS SINGH FACES EIGHT COUNTS OF FAILING TO COMPLY WITH VARIOUS SAFETY AND LOG KEEPING REGULATIONS. SINGH WAS ASKED ABOUT THE CHARGES TODAY, HE SAID NOTHING. 16 PEOPLE WERE KILLED AND 13 OTHERS WERE HURT WHEN THAT BUS CARRYING THE JUNIOR HOCKEY TEAM COLLIDED WITH A SEMI-TRAILER OWNED BY SINGH’S COMPANY. THE DRIVER OF THE SEMI IS FACING SEPARATE CHARGES.>>>ALSO TONIGHT, THERE IS NEWS THAT A PROMINENT CANADIAN FAMILY HAS TAKEN AN INTERNAL DISPUTE TO AN ONTARIO COURT. FRANK STRONACH, THE FOUNDER OF MAGNA INTERNATIONAL, IS SUING HIS DAUGHTER, FORMER M.P. BLIND STRONACH AND OTHERS OVER THE MANAGEMENT OF HIS COMPANY. THE SUIT IS SAID TO BE FILED OCTOBER 1. IN A STATEMENT, BELINDA STRONACH SAYS SHE’LL RESPOND IN THE NORMAL COURSE OF THE COURT.>>>STILL AHEAD, JEAN CHRETIEN HAS BEEN RETIRED FOR 15 YEARS NOW, BUT STILL DOESN’T MISS A BEAT. WE TALK NAFTA, DONALD TRUMP AND THE ONE THING THE FORMER P.M. MISSES ABOUT THE JOB.>>Adrienne: A LITTLE LATER, MOSCOW’S MAKEOVER. THE RUSSIAN CAPITAL IS GETTING AN EXPENSIVE FACE LIFT.>>Ian: FIRST THOUGH, NAHLAH AYED CONTINUES HER COVERAGE INSIDE MYANMAR WITH A LOOK AT THE FORGOTTEN ROHINGYA DISPLACED IN REFUGEE CAMPS IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY.>>I HAVE BEEN TO CONGO, TO HAS HAD, MALI, PLACES WITH HUGE HUMANI>>Ian: FOR MORE THAN A YEAR, GLOBAL VOICES HAVE CRIED OUT FOR THE PERSECUTION AGAINST ROHINGYA MUSLIMS. THEY HAVE FLED A COUNTRY THAT IS MAJORITY BUDDHIST. TONIGHT, WE’RE GOING TO SHOW YOU THE FORGOTTEN FACES OF THE CRISIS. THE ROHINGYA WHO DIDN’T LEAVE MYANMAR. THEIR PLIGHT IS DIFFERENT AND LARGELY UNREPORTED. NAHLAH AYED AND HER TEAM WENT TO MYANMAR, A VISIT THAT WAS TIGHTLY CONTROLLED BY THE GOVERNMENT. HERE’S WHAT THEY SAW.>>Reporter: THEY’RE CONFINED TO CAMPS AGAINST THEIR WILL. UNLIKE ROHINGYA MUSLIMS WHO FLED TO BANGLADESH LAST YEAR, THEY ARE STILL IN MYANMAR, DISPLACED BY VIOLENCE SIX YEARS AGO TO JUST DOWN THE ROAD FROM WHERE THEY LIVE. THE YOUNGEST HAVE KNOWN NO OTHER WAY OF LIFE. WE REACHED THE CAMP JUST BEFORE SUNSET. THE TRIP ORGANIZED BY THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION. ALL WE GOT WAS GLIMPSES. WE CAME HERE STRAIGHT FROM THE AIRPORT, IT’S A DISPLACED CAMP WHERE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE LIVE. I SEE QUITE A FEW WOMEN WHO SAY THEY HAVE GREAT NEED HERE. WE DON’T HAVE ANY SUPPORT FOR HEALTH CARE, SHE SAYS. EVEN GOING TO THE HOSPITAL, WE HAVE TO PAY OURSELVES. MORE THAN 130,000 FORGOTTEN AND LIKE MOST OTHER ROHINGYA MUSLIMS DENIED CITIZENSHIP AND FREEDOM OF MOVEMENT.>>Reporter: THE GOVERNMENT MANNER TO CLOSE THE CAMPS, BUT A CONSTANT QUESTION IS HOW TO HELP WITHOUT ENTRENCHING THE SEGREGATION.>>I HAVE BEEN TO CONGO, CHAD, MALI, PLACES WHERE THERE IS HUGE HUMANITARIAN RESPONSES. WE SEE MALNUTRITION, BUT I’VE SEEN NOTHING LIKE THESE CAMPS.>>PIERRE PERRON HAS BEEN GOING FOR FIVE YEARS.>>THERE IS LOSS OF HOPE FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY’RE WAITING IN THE CAMP AND THEY’RE NOT ABLE TO TRY TO RESTART THEIR LIVES, NOT ABLE TO WORK, THEIR KIDS CAN’T GO TO SCHOOL. AND REALLY THEY’RE IN THIS LIMBO WHERE THEY’RE WAITING TO BE ABLE TO GO HOME, AND UNABLE TO GO HOME.>>Reporter: FORGOTTEN, TOO, IN THE EVENTS OF THE PAST YEAR, ESTIMATED HALF A MILLION ROHINGYA MUSLIMS WHO STAYED IN THEIR HOMES IN RAKHINE STATE, A NEGLECTED REGION THAT IS POOR. MOST AID WAS CUT OFF LAST YEAR.>>I’M CONCERNED THERE IS A HIDDEN HUMANITARIAN CRISIS HAPPENING. THAT WE’RE UNABLE TO MEASURE.>>Reporter: LAST MONTH, MYANMAR ALLOWED IN SOME U.N. WORKERS TO ASSESS THE NEEDS. THE UNHCR SAID ALL COMMUNITIES ARE VULNERABLE, FINDING IT HARD TO PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE AND FEAR AND MISTRUST IS ALSO GETTING IN THE WAY OF MOVING ON. IN THIS VILLAGE, MINISTRY TOLD US DIFFERENT ETHNIC GROUPS LIVING PEACEFULLY. THEY CONFIRMED THAT. BUT IT DIDN’T TAKE LONG FOR THE FEAR AND DISTRUST. A MAN LOOKING FOR HIS COW RECENTLY WAS KILLED, SAYS THIS RAKHINE BUDDHIST RESIDENT, SO WE’RE WORRIED. ON THE MUSLIM SIDE, ONE MAN POINTED OUT THEY DON’T HAVE CITIZENSHIP. HOW CAN WE BE HAPPY IF WE’RE NOT EQUAL, HE ASKED? THE UNHCR SAYS THE SITUATION IS SO DIRE HERE THAT EVEN NOW PEOPLE ARE STILL LEAVING. AND ALL THIS STANDS AS CONSTANT MOURNING TO ANYONE WHO LEFT, EVEN THINKING ABOUT COMING BACK. NAHLAH AYED, CBC NEWS.>>Ian: TOMORROW, SHE FOCUSES ON AUNG SAN SUU KYI. SHE EARNED AN HONORARY CANADIAN CITIZENSHIP, BUT HAS NOW LOST BOTH FOR FAILING TO STOP THE BRUTAL TREATMENT OF THE ROHINGYA.>>SHE HAS MADE A LOT OF ERRORS, A LOT OF BLUNDER. AND I’M AFRAID TO SAY THAT SHE’S BEEN ILL-INFORMED AND ILL-ADVISED, BUT SHOW ME A PERSON WHO CAN TAKE HER PLACE FOR OUR DEMOCRATIC GOAL. SHE IS OUR ONLY CHANCE.>>Ian: THAT’S TOMORROW ON “THE NATIONAL”.>>Rosemary: UP NEXT, IN-DEPTH CONVERSATION WITH JEAN CHRETIEN. I SAT DOWN TO TALK ABOUT NAFTA, MARIJUANA AND OF COURSE, DONALD TRUMP.>>THE VIEW OF AMERICA TODAY IS NOT THE VIEW THAT WAS AMERICA SOME YEARS AGO. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DON’T TAKE THEM SERIOUSLY ANYMORE. AND IT’S SAD.>>BUT I ALWAYS BEEN VERY MUCH INTERESTED BY POLITICS.>>Rosemary: AS PRIME MINISTER AND CABINET STRONGMAN JEAN CHRETIEN SHAPED ISSUES THAT STILL GRAB HEADLINES, HE BROUGHT CANADA INTO NAFTA, HELPED CRAFT THE CHARTER AND THE CONTROVERSIAL NOTWITHSTANDING CLAUSE, WAY BACK EVEN CONSIDER D CHANGING THE LEGAL STATUS OF POT. WE HAD A WIDE-RANGING CONVERSATION AND I STARTED WITH A QUESTION ON NAFTA.>>NICE TO SEE YOU.>>NICE TO SEE YOU.>>Rosemary: YOU TALK ABOUT LOTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS IN THE BOOK, LOTS OF DIFFERENT TIME AND THINGS THAT HAPPENED. I WANT TO START WITH ONE, NAFTA. WHAT DID YOU MAKE OF HOW THE NEGOTIATION UNFOLDED?>>WHAT DID I SAY? I SAID TRUMP CANNOT UNDO AND HE WILL HAVE TO SIGN THE SAME THING. IT’S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. HE CHANGED THE NAME. THAT IS A HUGE VICTORY. WHAT HAPPENED? HE CHANGED SOME FOR THE SALARY OF THE WORKERS IN MEXICO. THAT WILL HELP THE CANADIAN WORKERS. AND THEY MADE A LITTLE BIT OF CONCESSION OF MILK, WHICH WAS THE SAME CONCESSION MADE BY HARPER FOR THE BEGINNING OF THE NEGOTIATIONS ON TPP ON THE PACIFIC. THE REST, TO CHANGE SOMETHING IN THE MECHANISM OF AN ORGANIZATION THAT EXISTS 25 YEARS, IT’S NORMAL. THE OTHER REALITY, TOO, IS ALL THE RULES YOU HAVE, NO, THE AMERICANS DON’T RESPECT THEM. WHEN I WAS THERE, WE TOOK THEM TO COURT ON SOFTWOOD LUMBER MANY TIMES. WE WON ALL THE TIME. AND THEY JUST SAID SO WHAT? AND TODAY, YOU KNOW, WHY IS HE STILL TAXING ALUMINUM AND STEEL HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH NAFTA. YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE THEY CUT THE TAXES FOR THE RICH AND THEY NEED MONEY.>>Rosemary: IN YOUR BOOK YOU WRITE ABOUT YOUR FRIENDS, THE CLINTONS, THEY’RE STILL YOUR FRIENDS?>>YEAH.>>Rosemary: WHEN HILLARY CLINTON LOST THE ELECTION, YOU HAD SOME TOUGH THINGS TO SAY IN THIS BOOK ABOUT THAT, YOU SAY, IT’S VERY SAD TO OBSERVE THE MONUMENTAL ERROR OUR NEIGHBOURS TO THE SOUTH MADE IN 2016, DO YOU STILL THINK THAT?>>THE VIEW OF AMERICA TODAY IS NOT THE VIEW THAT WAS AMERICA SOME YEARS AGO. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DON’T TAKE THEM SERIOUSLY ANYMORE. AND IT’S SAD. IT’S SAD BECAUSE IT’S BASED ON, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO IS LIKE THAT. AND YOU KNOW, THEY SELECTED HIM, THEY HAVE TO LIVE WITH HIM. BUT FOR ME, I DON’T THINK THAT INTERNATIONALLY THEY HAVE GAINED ANYTHING WITH TRUMP THERE. I THINK THEY WENT DOWN QUITE FAST. BUT I MIGHT BE MISTAKEN. I DON’T KNOW. BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE LAUGH WHEN YOU MENTION THAT NAME, TRUMP.>>Rosemary: YOU CALL HIM IN THE BOOK AGAIN, FANATICAL. DO YOU BELIEVE THAT?>>YOU’RE LISTENING LIKE ME. AS I WROTE, HE IS A RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BOOK, BECAUSE WHEN I WAS FED UP WITH SOME OF HIS NONSENSE, I GO BACK TO MY TABLE TO GAIN BACK MY SERENITY. IT’S A REALITY. YOU SEE. YOU SEE HIM TODAY, YOU KNOW? WHAT HE SAID ON THE JUDGE’S PROBLEM AND WHAT HE SAID, MAKING FUN OF THE POOR LADY WHO WENT ON NATIONAL TV TO TELL HER STORY. COME ON, YOU KNOW. I WOULD NOT BE PROUD IF MY PRIME MINISTER WOULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.>>36 YEARS AGO, THIS HAPPENED. I HAD ONE BEER, RIGHT? I HAD ONE BEER. WELL, YOU THINK — NOPE, IT WAS ONE BEER. GOOD. HOW DID YOU GET HOME? I DON’T REMEMBER. WHERE IS THE PLACE? I DON’T REMEMBER. HOW MANY YEARS AGO WAS IT? I DON’T KNOW.>>Rosemary: IT’S WEIRD, BECAUSE HE STILL HAS A LOT OF SUPPORT.>>IT’S LIFE, LIKE IN QUÉBEC. YOU CHANGE THE GOVERNMENT. NEVER THEIR ECONOMY WAS IN BETTER SHAPE. THEY HAVE THE LOWEST UNEMPLOYMENT IN A LONG, LONG TIME. FIRST TIME LOWER THAN ONTARIO. NO DEFICIT. SOMETHING THAT HAS NOT OCCURRED IN ONTARIO. ALL OVER QUÉBEC. THEY’VE DONE SO WELL THAT THEY HAD TO CHANGE THE GOVERNMENT.>>Rosemary: WHAT DOES THAT SAY TO YOU THEN?>>IT’S DEMOCRACY. DEMOCRACY IS NOT A PERFECT SYSTEM. AND WHY? THEY WERE THE COUSINS OF ARTICLES OR ANALYSIS, BUT WHAT IS THE REALITY? THE REALITY IS THERE WAS NO REASON NOT TO KEEP THIS GOVERNMENT IN QUÉBEC. BUT I WAS IN QUÉBEC AND I COULD FEEL IT, THAT THEY WANTED TO HAVE A CHANGE FOR CHANGING. IT’S A BIT LIKE WHEN YOU HAVE A CAR THAT IS STILL GOOD, FOUR YEARS, YOU SAID, THAT’S ENOUGH, I NEED A NEW CAR. YOU DON’T NEED A NEW CAR, THE CAR IS STILL WORKING WELL, BUT YOU BUY A NEW CAR BECAUSE YOU WANT TO HAVE A NEW CAR. IT’S NOT VERY RATIONALE, BUT IT’S THE WAY THAT PEOPLE ACT.>>THE PREMIER-DESIGNATE OF QUÉBEC GOT TO WORK QUICKLY. THREATENING HE WOULD INVOKE THE CONTROVERSIAL NOTWITHSTANDING CLAUSE AS A WAY TO BAN PUBLIC EMPLOYEES FROM WEARING RELIGIOUS SYMBOLS.>>IF WE HAVE TO USE THE NOTWITHSTANDING CLAUSE TO APPLY WHAT THE MAJORITY OF QUÉBECERS WANT, WE WILL DO SO.>>Reporter: JEAN CHRETIEN IS ONE OF THOSE WHO NEGOTIATED THE INCLUSION OF THAT CLAUSE INTO THE CHARTER OF RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS. IN THE BOOK YOU TALK ABOUT THE NOTWITHSTANDING CLAUSE. AND HOW IT WAS CREATED. AND WHY IT WAS CREATED. SO WHY WAS THE NOTWITHSTANDING CLAUSE SO IMPORTANT?>>THE NOTWITHSTANDING CLAUSE IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO DECLARE THAT YOU’RE DISCRIMINATING. HOW MANY NORMAL PERSON WOULD SAY I WANT TO DISCRIMINATE? IT IS WHAT THE NOTWITHSTANDING CLAUSE IS. DESPITE THE EQUALITY OF THIS AND THAT, I WILL DO THAT. AND YOU HAVE TO RENEW IT EVERY FIVE YEARS. SO IT WAS VERY SELDOM USED. YOU KNOW, BUT IT IS THERE BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IT WAS THE ONLY WAY TO HAVE REPATRIATION AND TOP OF IT, IT WOULD NOT BE BETTER FOR A GOVERNMENT OF JUDGES APPOINTED TO LIFE. YOU SEE THE DEBATE IN THE UNITED STATES TODAY.>>Rosemary: FAIR. YOU SAID THE GOVERNMENT HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO BOY BUY THE TRANSCANADA PIPELINE?>>YOU HAVE TO SETTLE — SELL OUR OIL. IF WE DON’T SELL IT, SOMEBODY ELSE WILL SELL IT. WHEN YOU PUT IT TO THE EXTREME, WE SHOULD NOT CUT ONE TREE, WE SHOULD NOT DAM ONE RIVER, WE SHOULD NOT PUT ONE WINDMILL BECAUSE IT’S NOT NICE TO WATCH. YOU KNOW. WE HAVE TO LIVE WITH THE REALITY. YOU KNOW, WE NEED HEATING IN OUR HOUSE. AND WE NEED FUEL TO MOVE TO GO TO WORK. OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, IT WILL NOT POLLUTE IF WE WERE TO ALL OF US GO HOME EVERY NIGHT, BUT IT MIGHT BE CONFUSING IN TORONTO A LITTLE BIT. SO YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO LIVE WITH REALITY.>>Rosemary: AND THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE TO NOW — THIS GOES BACK TO YOUR PREVIOUS JOB — BUT THEY HAVE TO GO BACK AND CONSULT WITH A BUNCH OF FIRST NATIONS AGAIN TO MAKE SURE THEY’RE OK WITH THINGS. IF THERE ARE FIRST NATIONS THAT SAY WE STILL DON’T WANT THE PIPELINE –>>WELL, THERE IS ALWAYS A MOMENT YOU HAVE TO DECIDE. YOU WERE ELECTED TO DO THINGS. YOU KNOW. CONSULTATION IS ONE THING. BUT CONSULTATION DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU HAVE TO DECIDE FOR THE PERSON WHO IS CONSULTING YOU. THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE GOVERNMENT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE GOVERNMENT. IT WILL ALWAYS BE PEOPLE WHO WILL NOT LIKE WHAT YOU DO, BECAUSE YOU CANNOT PLEASE EVERYBODY ALL THE TIME.>>Rosemary: MARIJUANA IS ABOUT TO BE LEGALIZED.>>I NEVER TASTED THAT, DON’T HAVE A CLUE WHAT IT IS.>>Rosemary: YOU WERE GOING TO DECRIMINALIZE IT?>>I WAS. I THOUGHT AS A KID, SMOKE A JOINT, YOU HAVE A CRIMINAL RECORD FOREVER WAS UNREASONABLE. THE QUESTION OF LEGALIZATION, YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, I WAS CONFRONTED WITH THIS PROBLEM 20 YEARS AGO.>>Rosemary: IT’S DIFFERENT.>>NOW MAYBE I’LL LEGALIZE IT IN THE UNITED STATES BEFORE US. SO I HAVE NOT TRIED IT AND I DON’T INTEND TO TRY IT EITHER.>>Rosemary: YOU DON’T WANT A LITTLE –>>NO, NO, NO.>>Rosemary: YOU STILL FOLLOW POLITICS. YOU’RE UP ON CURRENT AFFAIRS. DO YOU MISS IT?>>NOPE.>>Rosemary: WHY NOT?>>BECAUSE I HAD ENOUGH OF IT. 40 YEARS. THE ONLY THING I MISS IS QUESTION PERIOD. I LOVED IT.>>Rosemary: REALLY?>>OH YEAH, BECAUSE IT’S A GREAT INSTITUTION. DOES THAT EXIST ANYWHERE? THEY HAVE IT IN ENGLAND, BUT THE PRIME MINISTER IN ENGLAND RECEIVED 48 HOURS NOTICE BEFORE A QUESTION AND IS THERE ONLY 30-40 MINUTES A WEEK. I WAS THERE 3-4 DAYS A WEEK. AND THAT WAS ALWAYS AN HOUR THAT I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO.>>YOU EITHER FAIL OR SUCCEED. IF YOU GIVE A BAD ANSWER, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM. IF YOU HAVE A GOOD ANSWER, YOU FEEL GOOD. AND YOU ASK YOUR STAFF. I DIDN’T HAVE TO ASK MY STAFF. NOT AT ALL. I WOULD GO THERE AND AT THE END OF THE QUESTION PERIOD, I WOULD JUST DO THAT. IF IT WAS DRY, I HAD A GOOD QUESTION PERIOD AND IF IT WAS WET, I HAD PROBLEMS.>>Rosemary: [LAUGHTER] >>SO NOW I’M NOT TOO WET. I SURVIVED.>>Rosemary: YOU SURVIVED THE INTERVIEW. GOOD SPOT TO END IT.>>Ian: WOW, HE IS SO IMPRESSIVE. PARTISANSHIP ASIDE, JUST PLAIN TALKING, RELAXED. I CAN’T GET OVER HE’S IN HIS 80s AND SO CLEAR HEADED AND CONTEMPORARY. WHAT SURPRISED YOU?>>>>Rosemary: THAT HE STILL WANTS TO TALK THAT MUCH. AFTER THE INTERVIEW THAT WENT FOR 30 MINUTES, HE STOOD THERE AND REGALED US WITH TALES OF ANOTHER 30 MINUTES, ALL OTT THINGS HE WAS THINKING ABOUT. HE DOESN’T WANT TO DO IT ANYMORE, BUT HE IS STILL WATCHING IT. HE DOESN’T WANT TO CRITICIZE FROM THE SIDELINES, BUT HE’S WATCHING IT CLOSELY.>>Ian: IT’S A GOOD TIP TO KNOW IF THE INTERVIEW WENT WELL OR BADLY. I’LL KEEP THAT IN MIND.>>Rosemary: [LAUGHTER].>>Adrienne: UP NEXT, MOSCOW IS UNDERGOING A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR FACE LIFT AND ATTEMPT TO LEAVE BEHIND THE DRAB LOOK OF T WITH A STORIED PAST, BUT RECENTLY THE RUSSIAN CAPITAL HAS BEEN EXPERIENCE AGO SHIFT, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO PUBLIC SPACES. CALL IT URBANISM ON OVERDRIVE, BUT CREATING A MORE LIVABLE CITY COMES WITH A POLITICAL PRICE. CHRIS BROWN EXPLAINS IN TONIGHT’S DISPATCH FROM MOSCOW.>>Reporter: THESE DAYS, MOSCOW FEELS LIKE A CITY THAT HAS FOUND ITS GROOVE. IT’S LOADED WITH NEW ENERGY. SEEMS TO BE ON A NONSTOP CELEBRATION OF ITS CULTURE, HISTORY AND TRADITION. WHILE RUSSIA’S CAPITAL HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PLACE OF POWER AND IMPORTANCE, UNTIL RECENTLY IT WASN’T THAT NICE A PLACE TO LIVE. WITH TOO MANY DRAB BUILDINGS, TACKY SHOPS AND UNINSPIRING PUBLIC SPACES. NOT SO ANYMORE. MOSCOW TURNED 871 YEARS OLD THIS YEAR AND AT THIS STREET PARTY WE FOUND LOTS OF PEOPLE THRILLED WITH WHAT THEIR CAPITAL HAS BECOME.>>YOU CAN SEE HERE, IT’S BETTER BECAUSE A LOT OF NEW STREETS, NEW PARKS. I THINK IT’S BETTER EACH YEAR.>>Reporter: WHAT IS HAPPENING IN MOSCOW HAS TO RATE AS ONE OF THE MOST AMBITIOUS URBAN TRANSFORMATION PROJECTS ATTEMPTED ANYWHERE. BUT BEHIND THE FACADES AND ROADS AND AMENITIES, THERE IS SHREWD CALCULATION ABOUT MAINTAINING SUPPORT FOR VLADIMIR PUTIN. AFTER ALL, THEY’VE BEEN KNOWN TO TAKE TO THE STREETS WHEN LIVING STANDARDS DROP. PUTIN ADMINISTRATION HAS LEARNED IT’S IMPORTANT TO KEEP PEOPLE IN THE CAPITAL HOSPITAL. — HAPPY. IN MOSCOW SILVER HAIRED MAYOR, SERGEI SOBYANIN, IS GETTING MUNICIPAL OF THE CREDIT FOR DOING THAT — MUCH OF THE CREDIT FOR DOING THAT, AT LEAST FROM KREMLIN CONTROLLED STATE TV. IT RECENTLY AIRED AN HOUR LONG TRIBUTE DOCUMENTARY LISTING AMONG SERGEI SOBYANIN’S ACCOMPLISHMENTS, MY STREET. IN JUST THREE YEARS, 300 MOSCOW STREETS WERE NARROWED AND THE SIDEWALKS WIDENED. 12,000 BUILDINGS RECEIVED FACE LIFTS. THOUSANDS OF KILOMETRES OF UGLY OVERHEAD WIRES WERE BURIED UNDER THOSE CRISP CLEAN NEW SIDEWALKS THAT ARE ALSO PUNCTUATED WITH MORE THAN HALF A MILLION NEW STREET LAMPS. THE JOKE HERE IS THAT DUGUP SIDEWALKS HAVE BECOME SO UBIQUITOUS, THE SIDEWALK PAVING STONE IS THE NEW SYMBOL OF MOSCOW. THE CITY HAS BECOME A SHOWCASE FOR URBAN RENEWAL AND YOUNG ARCHITECTS FROM ACROSS RUSSIA ARE COMING TO LEARN WHAT MIGHT WORK FOR THEIR COMMUNITIES. [APPLAUSE] AND TO GET TIPS FROM TOP INTERNATIONAL ARCHITECTS, INCLUDING CANADIAN MICHAEL GELLER.>>IF THERE WERE CANADIANS WATCHING THIS PRESENTATION, THEY WOULD BE VERY SURPRISED. BECAUSE THEY DO NOT APPRECIATE THAT YOU HAVE SO MANY BEAUTIFUL LIVELY STREETS.>>Reporter: GELLER HAS FLOWN IN FROM VANCOUVER AT THE INVITATION OF THE STRELKA DESIGN INSTITUTE. ITS CONSULTANTS HAVE LED MANY PROJECTS. HE IS SHARING HOW VANCOUVER HAS IMPROVED BY INCREASING DENSITY. BUT AFTER SEVEN VISITS TO MOSCOW, HE SEEMS TO BE TAKING AS MANY IDEAS BACK HOME AS HE’S GIVING.>>EACH TIME I COME HERE, I GO BACK TO VANCOUVER AND SAY, THERE IS LESSONS WE COULD LEARN FROM MOSCOW. WE TALK ABOUT PEDESTRIANS BEING IMPORTANT, BUT THE QUALITY OF OUR SIDEWALKS ISN’T AS GOOD AS THIS. WE DON’T HAVE STREETS LIKE THIS.>>Reporter: A DECADE AGO, MOSCOW HAD JUST ONE PEDESTRIAN STREET. NOW THERE ARE A DOZEN. THIS IS THE DOWNTOWN AREA, STREET CAFES ARE EVERYONE, PUSH SCOOTERS AND ELECTRIC ONES. AND WHEN YOU DO NEED A CAR, GELLER SAYS RIDE-SHARING IS UBIQUITOUS.>>I USE ÜBER TO GET AROUND. IF ANYBODY IN THE B.C. GOVERNMENT IS WATCHING THIS, CHRIS, PLEASE ENCOURAGE THEM TO BRING IN ÜBER.>>Reporter: THE COST OF THIS TRANSFORMATION IS UNLIKE ANYTHING EVER ATTEMPTED IN ANY CITY IN EUROPE OR NORTH AMERICA. $3 BILLION U.S. TO BE SPENT BY 2020 JUST ON MOSCOW. TO PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE, THAT’S A THIRD OF RUSSIA’S ENTIRE MUNICIPAL BUDGET DIRECTED AT THE CAPITAL. ONLY IN A COUNTRY WHERE POWER IS SO CENTRALIZED IN THE KREMLIN COULD THAT EVER HAPPEN. AND THOSE COSTS DON’T INCLUDE THIS CENTERPIECE. ZARYADYE PARK. IT’S JUST A STONE’S THROW FROM RED SQUARE AND AT A QUARTER OF A BILLION DOLLARS, IT’S LIKELY THE MOST EXPENSIVE PARK BUILT ANYWHERE.>>YOU CAN’T CELEBRATE PLACES LIKE THIS, WITHOUT PROBING INTO THE POLITICS OF HOW THEY WORK.>>Reporter: MICHAEL MURAWSKI HAS SPENT A YEAR STUDYING WHY VLADIMIR PUTIN’S REGIME HAS INVESTED SO HEAVILY TO TRANSFORM RUSSIA’S CAPITAL.>>WITH THIS GESTURE OF PUTIN, THE GOLDEN LAMB WAS GIVEN BACK TO THE CITY AND ITS INHABITANTS. SO THIS GIFTING WHICH TIES THE PARK INHERENTLY TO POLITICS.>>Reporter: THE PARK’S DEFINING ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE IS A PLATFORM THAT STICKS OUT HALFWAY INTO THE MOSCOW RIVER, OFFERING SPECTACULAR VIEWS OF THE CITY’S FAMOUS LANDMARKS. IN A SURREAL SCENE WHEN IT OPENED LAST YEAR, PUTIN TOOK WHAT SEEMED LIKE A VICTORY LAP AS THE BAND STRUCK UP THE THEME FROM THE LAST AUSTIN POWERS MOVIE, THE INTERNATIONAL MAN OF MYSTERY. IT’S HARD TO KNOW WHAT THE KREMLIN WASGETTING AT, BUT NOW REFER TO THIS PLACE AS PUTIN’S PARADISE.>>VERY MUCH THE MESSAGE, YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS PARK, YOU OUGHT TO BE GRATEFUL.>>Reporter: REGIMES OFTEN USE CITIES AS A WAY TO GLORIFY LEADERS. CAN SUCH IMPROVEMENTS IN URBAN FREEDOM ENCOURAGE POLITICAL FREEDOM AS WELL?>>IT’S MUCH TOO EARLY WHETHER TO SAY IT CREATES A KIND OF DEMOCRACY AND FREEDOM THROUGH ARCHITECTURE. THE ONLY THING WE HAVE TO GO ON SO FAR, PEOPLE TAKE MANY MORE SELFIES THAN THEY USED TO IN THIS PART OF MOSCOW AND PEOPLE VOTED FOR PUTIN IN LARGER NUMBERS THAN PREVIOUSLY.>>Reporter: MOSCOW’S RENAISSANCE IS IMPRESSIVE. YET IN OTHER WAYS SUPERFICIAL. DAILY COMMUTES ON CLOGGED ROADS ARE STILL PUNISHING. BUT MOSCOW SEEMS PREPARED TO ACCEPT THE DEAL PUTIN HAS OFFERED THEM. A BETTER, BEAUTIFUL CITY IN EXCHANGE FOR LETTING HIM RUN RUSSIA HIS WAY.>>Ian: EARLIER IN THE SHOW, YOU SAW POWERFUL IMAGES OF HURRICANE MICHAEL. NOW WE WANT TO GIVE YOU A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE, THIS TIME FROM SOMEONE SENT IN TO MEASURE THE STORM. CAPTAIN WILL SIMMONS HAS FLOWN INTO MANY HURRICANES IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS. HE CAPTURED VIDEO WHILE FLYING IN THE EYE OF THE STORM. THAT’S OUR “MOMENT OF THE DAY. “>>MICHAEL WAS ANGRY, IF YOU WILL, GROWING IN STRENGTH. THIS ONE TO ME, I WILL REMEMBER IT BECAUSE HOW QUICKLY IT INTENSIFIED. I FLEW IT MONDAY MORNING AS A TROPICAL STORM AND HERE WE ARE 48 HOURS LATER OR SO AND IT’S THE ALMOST A CATEGORY 5 HURRICANE. IT’S A BUMPY RIDE TO GET THERE, BUT THE CENTRE OF THE EYE IS PRETTY CALM. YOU SAW FROM THE VIDEO, A STADIUM EFFECT. THERE WERE CLOUDS ALL AROUND YOU, JUST IN THE CENTRE OF IT. I WAS IMPRESSED, JUST LOOKING AT THE SATELLITE. ONCE YOU GET OUT THERE, EVERYTHING ALMOST STANDS STILL. IT’S SURREAL. MICHAEL WILL BE ONE THAT I REMEMBER FOR A LONG TIME.>>Rosemary: NOT WHAT I THOUGHT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE AT ALL. HE DID THAT FLIGHT NINE TIMES AND WENT INTO THE MIDDLE THERE, THE CALM PART, SIX TIMES. THAT’S HOW MANY TIMES HE WENT TO GET THIS INFORMATION.>>Ian: ON PURPOSE, VOLUNTARILY, YEAH. [LAUGHTER]>>Adrienne: TOLD TO DO IT. IT’S INTERESTING, HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE STORM AS BEING ANGRY AND WHEN OUR PRODUCERS SPOKE WITH HIM, HE SAID THAT EVERY STORM FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE HAS A PERSONALITY. AND THEY COME TO KNOW THEM FOR THEIR QUIRKS, I SUPPOSE, AS SQUAREY AS IT IS, I THINK I WOULD RATHER LOOK AT IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE THAN BEING ON THE GROUND.>>Ian: AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT. HE IS DOING MEASUREMENTS AND TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE STORMS. ONE OF THE LESSONS OF MICHAEL, AFTER SO MANY STORMS HAVE PETERED OUT OR DIDN’T SEEM AS STRONG AS OFFICIALS WARNED, THIS ONE WAS WAY STRONGER AND IT’S A REMINDER TO EXPECT ANYTHING, I GUESS, WHEN THESE STORMS ROLLED IN TO PLACES LIKE FLORIDA. THAT IS “THE NATIONAL” FOR OCTOBER 10. GOOD NIGHT.>>Adrienne: GOOD NIGHT.>>Rosemary: GOOD NIGHT.

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