The National for Monday September 11, 2017 : Irma’s aftermath, fake degrees, David Frum


(♪♪♪)>>Wendy: GOOD EVENING, I’M WENDY MESLEY, AND THIS IS “THE NATIONAL.”>>Interview: HAPPY WE’RE HOME AND ALIVE, YEAH.>>Wendy: CANADIANS FLEE IRMA’S PATH OF DESTRUCTION. THEY HAVE HARSH WORDS FOR OTTAWA.>>Interview: I FRANKLY, THINK THAT IT BORDERS ON NEGLECT.>>Wendy: COUNTRIES LIKE BRITAIN UNDER FIRE FOR WAITING SO LONG TO HELP STORM-BATTERED TERRITORIES.>>>BORN IN CANADA, RECRUITED BY ISIS. HIS EXCLUSIVE STORY OF GOING TO SYRIA AND THEN DESERTING.>>Interview: I’D SAY THAT MY FAMILY PLAYED A REALLY BIG ROLE IN BRINGING ME BACK.>>Wendy: PLUS… DAVID FRUM ON DONALD TRUMP.>>Interview: THAT SEEMS PRETTY CRAZY. THAT’S NOT SOMETHING THAT HE DOES, THAT’S HIS OWN THOUGHT FROM HIS OWN TWO THUMBS. (♪♪♪)>>Wendy: IRMA HAS CAUSED DAYS OF DREAD AND DAMAGE AND AS THE STORM BREAKS UP OVER LAND IT MAY SEEM LIKE THE END OF THE NIGHTMARE, BUT WALK BACK ALONG IRMA’S DESTRUCTIVE PATH AND A STRUGGLE IS FAR FROM OVER. IRMA IS WEAKENING, IT’S NO LONGER A HURRICANE, BUT STILL BRINGING HEAVY RAINS TO THE SOUTHEASTERN U.S. FAR FROM THE POWER IT HAD OVER THE WEEKEND WHEN IT LASHED FLORIDA, ESPECIALLY ITS WEST COAST. WE’LL TAKE YOU THERE IN A MOMENT. BUT WE BEGIN WHERE THE STORM WAS STRONGEST, THE CARIBBEAN. THERE YOU CAN SEE WHAT LIFE WAS LIKE BEFORE AND AFTER IRMA HIT. COMMUNITIES UNSCATTERED AND SOME CANADIANS CAUGHT IN THE CHAOS TRYING TO GET HOME. CATHERINE CULLEN STARTS OUR COVERAGE.>>Reporter: IT IS NOT HOW LORI MCCOY AND KEN REYNOLDS IMAGINED THEIR THREE-YEAR SAILING TRIP WOULD END.>>Interview: I DIDN’T WANT TO COME HOME THIS WAY AND I WANTED TO COME HOME ON MY BOAT BUT I’M HAPPY.>>Reporter: WHAT ARE YOU HAPPY ABOUT, YOU HAVE TEARS IN YOUR EYES?>>Interview: HAPPY WE’RE HOME AND ALIVE.>>Reporter: NO WONDER HE’S HAPPY TO BE ALIVE. LISTEN TO THE WIND THEY RECORDED AS THE HURRICANE HIT ST. MAARTEN. THE DEVASTATION THEY SAW AFTER. A STRANGER TOOK THEM INTO HER HOME AND THEY FOUND A FLIGHT OUT ON THEIR OWN.>>Interview: I HATE TO SAY IT, BUT WE FOUND OUR COUNTRY ISN’T HELPING AT ALL. WE WERE NOT INFORMED OF ANYTHING.>>Reporter: THAT, OF COURSE, IS NOT THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT’S VIEW.>>Interview: THE GOVERNMENT OF CANADA IS DOING ITS VERY BEST TO TRY TO ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS AND TO BRING THEM BACK SAFELY AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.>>Reporter: OFFICIALS SAY THAT THE DEVASTATION IN BOTH TURKS AND CAICOS AND ST. MAARTEN MEANT MANY CANADIANS WERE STUCK THERE. UNTIL TODAY. COMMERCIAL FLIGHTS WERE SENT TO BOTH COUNTRIES AND MORE THAN 270 PEOPLE ARE EXPECTED TO BE RETURNING HOME.>>Interview: WE ARE HOPEFUL THAT THE LION’S SHARE OF CANADIANS SHOULD BE BACK HOME TONIGHT.>>Reporter: ONE PLANE HAD RELIEF SUPPLIES BUT IT WASN’T ALLOWED TO LEAVE. THE GOVERNMENT SAYS THAT ALL OF THE DAMAGE TO THE AIRPORTS HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE.>>Interview: THE MAIN PROBLEM HAS BEEN THE AVAILABILITY OF THE AIRSTRIPS ON WHICH TO LAND AND IN SOME CASES PERMISSION TO LEAVE WITH PASSENGERS.>>Reporter: WESTJET, WHICH IS FLYING RELIEF IN AND PASSENGERS OUT, AGREES.>>Interview: IT’S ONLY REALLY TODAY WHEN WE KNEW THAT WE COULD OPERATE IN THE HOURS OF DAYLIGHT WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT’S AVAILABLE.>>Reporter: BUT SOME HAVE QUESTIONED WHY CANADA’S MILITARY WASN’T SENT IN TO HELP THOSE STRANDED AS THE UNITED STATES HAS DONE. CANADIAN OFFICIALS ARGUE THAT IT WOULDN’T HAVE MADE A DIFFERENCE.>>Interview: AS FAR AS WE KNOW, NOT ALL AMERICANS ARE OUT AND WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR AMERICAN PARTNERS, WE ARE WORKING, IN FACT, THERE ARE OTHER EUROPEAN COUNTRIES THAT HAVE ASKED CANADA FOR ASSISTANCE AS WELL.>>Reporter: CANADIAN OFFICIALS MADE A REAL POINT OF SAYING REPEATEDLY TODAY HOW MUCH THEY SYMPATHIZE WITH CANADIANS STRANDED AND THE FAMILIES WHO ARE WORRYING ABOUT THEM BUT THEY SAY THAT ANY DELAYS IN BRINGING PEOPLE HOME ARE A RESULT OF DAMAGED ROADS AND LIGHTING, AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL, NOT ANY LACK OF PLANNING OR ORGINISATION ON CANADA’S PART. CATHERINE CULLEN, CBC NEWS, OTTAWA.>>Wendy: IRMA IS BEING BLAMED FOR AT LEAST 42 DEATHS, INCLUDING 10 IN CUBA WHERE THE STORM STRUCK AS A CATEGORY 5 HURRICANE. DOWNED TREES AND FLOODED STREETS STILL HAVE MANY CLEANING UP, BUT MORE LASTING DAMAGE WAS DONE TO THE ECONOMY. FISHING BOATS WERE DESTROYED, AND THE GOVERNMENT SAYS THAT THIS YEAR’S SUGAR CANE CROP IS RUINED. IT’S THE FIRST TIME THAT CUBA HAS SEEN A STORM OF THIS SIZE AND POWER SINCE 1932. SOME OF THE ISLANDS HIT ARE EUROPEAN TERRITORIES AND THERE’S DESPERATE CALLS FOR HELP THAT ARE REACHING FAR ACROSS THE ATLANTIC. THOMAS DAIGLE HAS THAT SIDE OF THE STORY.>>Reporter: THE BEACHFRONT THAT DREW MANY BE HERE BROUGHT THE OCEAN RIGHT INTO PEOPLE’S HOMES. THE ISLAND OF ST. MAARTEN HAS BEEN TURNED UPSIDE DOWN, LEAVING A MESS AND THOUSANDS HOMELESS. HENCE, THE FRENCH TROOPS, DEPLOYED TO THIS FRENCH TERRITORY WITH A MILLION LITRES OF WATER AND EMERGENCY SUPPLIES. THE FRENCH GOVERNMENT HAS CHARTERED COMMERCIAL PLANES TO GET PEOPLE OUT, THE WOMEN AND CHILDREN FIRST. FINALLY, SHE SAYS, ECHOING THE THOUGHT OF MANY HERE WHO FEEL THE GOVERNMENT RESPONSE HAS BEEN TOO SLOW.>>Interview: [Speaking French]>>Reporter: WE THOUGHT THAT WE HAD BEEN FORGOTTEN, BUT NOW IT’S ALL RIGHT, THE KIDS ARE WELL AND THAT’S ALL THAT MATTERS, SHE SAYS, EVEN IF THE HOUSE HAS BEEN DESTROYED.>>[Speaking French]>>Reporter: THE DUTCH LAY CLAIM TO THE OTHER HALF OF ST. MAARTEN AND THE NETHERLANDS GOT CITIZENS OFF THE ISLAND TOO.>>Interview: THIS IS THE SCENE AT THE AIRPORT AS YOU CAN SEE IT’S QUITE CHAOTIC…>>Reporter: SOMEWHERE IN THAT CHAOS IS JEFF BAKER’S DAUGHTER, AMY. UNABLE TO GET ON ANY FLIGHT OUT AND HE BLAMES THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT FOR THE DELAY.>>Interview: THEY DON’T HAVE THE INTELLIGENCE, THEY’VE NOT MADE THE EFFORT TO FIND OUT THE SIZE OF THE PROBLEM, QUITE FRANKLY AND I THINK THAT IT BORDERS ON NEGLECT.>>Reporter: THE U.K. HAS ITS HANDS FULL ON ITS OWN, OVERSEAS TERRITORIES BATTERED AND FROM ABOVE THE BRITISH VIRGIN ISLANDS SHOW THE TRACKS OF A GIANT NAMED IRMA. BRITAIN HAS SENT ITS OPEN SUPPLIES IN THE HANDS OF 700 TROOPS.>>Interview: WE HAVE A LOT OF FOOD TONIGHT AND FOR THEM AND A LOT OF FOOD ARRIVING EVERY DAY FOR THIS WEEK.>>Reporter: ALREADY THOUGH HUNGER AND FATIGUE ARE TAKING THEIR TOLL ON THE LOCALS, WITH TENSIONS RUNNING HIGH IN THE LONG LINEUP FOR GROCERIES.>>Interview: A LOT IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW AND PEOPLE ARE BREAKING AND IT’S A STATE OF EMERGENCY.>>Reporter: THROUGHOUT THE REGION THERE’S A GROWING FEAR OF THIS… PEOPLE LOOTING EMPTY HOMES AND SHOPS. WITH NOTHING LEFT FOR THEMSELVES, SOME ARE GETTING DESPERATE. THOMAS DAIGLE, CBC NEWS, LONDON.>>Wendy: NOW AS WE MENTIONED, IRMA IS WORKING ITS WAY UP THE EASTERN UNITED STATES. RECORD-SETTING STORM SURGES LEFT JACKSONVILLE LARGELY UNDER WATER AS IRMA WORKED ITS WAY OUT OF FLORIDA AND IT’S A SIMILAR SITUATION IN SAVANNAH, GEORGIA, MORE THAN 1,000 KILOMETRES NORTH OF WHERE THE STORM FIRST MADE LANDFALL. CHARLESTON, SOUTH CAROLINA, HAS ALSO BEEN THREATENED BY FLASH FLOODS AS THE STORM MOVES NORTH, SLOWLY LOSING STEAM AS IT GOES. LET’S TURN BACK NOW TO SOUTH FLORIDA, IT DIDN’T SUFFER THE CATASTROPHIC DAMAGE THAT WE HAVE SEEN ELSEWHERE BUT THE SITUATION REMAINS SERIOUS. MILLIONS ARE WITHOUT POWER, GASOLINE IS ALL BUT IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND, AND CLEANING UP WILL BE A GIANT EFFORT, ESPECIALLY IN THE NAPLES AREA. SUSAN ORMISTON HAS MORE ON THE SITUATION IN THAT REGION TONIGHT. SUSAN?>>Reporter: WENDY, ON SATURDAY THIS GAS STATION WAS FUNCTIONING BUT THE HURRICANE TOOK CARE OF THAT. WITH THOSE MASSIVE BLACKOUTS THAT YOU HAVE MENTIONED AND VERY LITTLE GAS IT’S BEEN HARD TODAY FOR PEOPLE VENTURING OUT TO ASSESS THE DAMAGE. HURRICANE IRMA HIT HERE NORTH OF NAPLES TO DELIVER A PUNISHING BLOW AND LOOK WHAT SHE LEFT IN HER WAKE… LOW-LYING NEIGHBOURHOODS, FLOOD PRONE ALREADY, WERE EASY PICKINGS. DO YOU LIVE HERE?>>Interview: YEAH, MY HOUSE IS RIGHT HERE. WE LIVE RIGHT HERE.>>Reporter: IT’S ALL FLOODED.>>Interview: YEAH. I GO CHECK IT.>>Reporter: IT’S A LONG, DEEP WADE IN JUST STREET CLOTHES AND THE WATER IS NOT RECEDING. HERE THE SIMPLEST HOMES ON THE POOREST LAND FELT THE GREATEST FORCE. MANY TRAILER PARKS ARE UNDERWATER. LABORERS LIVE HERE LYCRA MOAN JOSÉ WHO IS GOING BACK IN TO ASSESS THE DAMAGE. HIS HOME WAS SPARED THE WORST, BUT THERE’S NO OTHER ACCESS AND HE NEEDS HIS WORK SHIRTS TO GET BACK TO HIS JOB AS A GRASS CUTTER, WHENEVER THAT WILL BE. DO YOU HAVE INSURANCE?>>Interview: NO.>>Reporter: NO RECOURSE, LIKE MOST OF HIS NEIGHBOURS, LOOKING AT ALL KINDS OF DAMAGE. THIS IS SOME OF THE WORST FLOODING WE HAVE SEEN HERE IN BONITA SPRINGS NORTH OF NAPLES. THIS NEIGHBOURHOOD AND BLOCKS AND BLOCKS OF IT ARE ADJACENT TO THE IMPERIAL RIVER WHICH IN THAT VIOLENT STORM LAST NIGHT OVERFLOWED ITS BANKS PUSHING ALL OF THIS WATER, WAIST, CHEST HIGH IN PLACES, SUBMERGING THESE HOUSES. FLORIDA’S GOVERNOR IS WARNING RISING RIVERS ARE STILL PART OF THE DANGER. FIREFIGHTERS ARE LOOKING FOR THOSE WHO REFUSED TO LEAVE. WITH POWER OUT IN MORE THAN SIX MILLION FLORIDA HOMES, SOME MAY BE IN DISTRESS BUT IT COULD HAVE BEEN WORSE.>>Interview: WE SAW THE REMNANTS OF THE STORM SURGE ALONG THE WEST COAST BUT WE DIDN’T SEE WHAT WE — I DIDN’T SEE THE DAMAGE THAT I THOUGHT I WOULD SEE.>>Reporter: SO THAT’S THE GOOD NEWS. AND IT’S SENT SOME PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR SAFE PLACES, LIKE HOTELS, TO MAKE THEIR WAY HOME WITH THEIR PETS.>>Interview: IF YOU HAVE TO EVACUATE YOU HAVE TO BRING EVERYBODY.>>Reporter: HOW DID PETEY DO IN THE ?ORM.>>Interview: HUNG UPSIDE DOWN DURING THE STORM ON THE TOP OF HIS CAGE UPSTAIRS.>>Reporter: IT’S ASTOUNDING THE CONTRAST. YESTERDAY AND TODAY THE STORM AND THEN THE SUN. THE GULF COAST SUCH A WORRY ON SUNDAY IS ALREADY DRAWING PEOPLE BACK FOR THE SUNSET. AND, YES, FOR CELEBRATION, THEY SURVIVED IRMA.>>Wendy: THANK YOU SO MUCH, SUSAN. SUSAN ORMISTON. OVER ON FLORIDA’S WEST COAST, MIAMI IS DEALING WITH IRMA’S AFTERMATH AS WELL. AT ONE TIME THE CITY WAS EXPECTING A DIRECT HIT. THAT DIDN’T HAPPEN BUT IT STILL TOOK A POUNDING. JOHANNA WAGSTAFFE IS BRINGING US UP TO SPEED ON WHAT’S HAPPENING THERE.>>Reporter: HERE IN MIAMI BEACH THE CITY IS IN CLEANUP MODE, DESPITE THE CENTRE OF IRMA MAKING LANDFALL OVER A HUNDRED KILOMETRES TO THE WEST, HURRICANE FORCE WINDS STILL BROUGHT DOWN TREES AND A STORM SURGE IN DOWNTOWN MIAMI PUSHED WATER INLAND SEVERAL BLOCKS AND LEAVING BEHIND MUD AND DEBRIS IN THE STREETS THAT THE CREWS ARE STILL WORKING TO CLEAN UP. POWER IS OUT TO MUCH OF THE COUNTRY SO OFFICIALS ASK RESIDENTS TO STAY AWAY AS LONG AS POSSIBLE. STILL, MIAMI-DADE COUNTY WAS SPARED THE WORST OF IRMA DESPITE IT BEING IN THE FORECAST TRACK FOR LANDFALL EARLY ON AND THE RESIDENTS THAT HAD FLED THE EAST COAST FOUND THEMSELVES IN THE EYE OF THE STORM AS IRMA MADE LANDFALL ON THE WEST SIDE, BRINGING THAT INCREDIBLE STORM SURGE TO MARCO AND NAPLES. AND THEN IRMA TOOK ANOTHER JOG OVERNIGHT LAST NIGHT MOVING EAST OF TAMPA WHERE IT WAS SPARED THE CATASTROPHIC WINDS AND STORM SURGE AND INSTEAD BRINGING FLOODING AND RAIN TO PARTS OF NORTHERN FLORIDA AND INTO GEORGIA WHERE THEY CONTINUE TO SEE REMNANTS OF IRMA SPIN TONIGHT. THE FORECAST MODELING DISCREPANCIES ARE A BIG PART OF THIS STORY. THE AMERICAN MODEL HAS GONE THROUGH A MAJOR UPGRADE THIS YEAR, BUT DESPITE THAT, THE EUROPEAN MODEL STILL OUTPERFORMED THE AMERICAN. IN FACT, THE EUROPEAN WAS INDICATING THAT WEST COAST LANDFALL FAR EARLIER THAN THE AMERICAN. SO THERE’S A LOT OF QUESTIONS TONIGHT ABOUT WHY THE EUROPEAN IS STILL A FAR BETTER PERFORMING MODEL. AND AS RESIDENTS OF THE U.S. SOUTHEAST AS I MENTIONED STILL GET HAMMERED WITH THE NORTHERN END OF IRMA TONIGHT AS IT SWIRLS AND DISSIPATES AND GROWS IN SIZE, THE RESIDENTS ON THE EAST COAST ARE KEEPING THEIR EYE ON ANOTHER HURRICANE — HURRICANE JOSÉ. IT’S SPINNING OFF THE COAST FOR A FEW DAYS BUT RESIDENTS WATCHING THAT LONG-RANGE MODEL CLOSELY, SOME EARLY INDICATIONS OF POTENTIAL LANDFALL. JOHANNA WAGSTAFFE, CBC NEWS, MIAMI BEACH.>>Wendy: MEANWHILE, STUDENTS IN HOUSTON RETURNED TO CLASS TODAY, TWO WEEKS AFTER THE CITY TOOK A DIRECT HIT FROM HURRICANE HARVEY. AN IMPRESSIVE TURNAROUND GIVEN THE EXTENT OF THE FLOODING THERE BUT MANY BUILDINGS ARE STILL TOO DAMAGED TO USE, FORCING TEACHERS AND STUDENTS TO DOUBLE UP AT SCHOOLS THAT WERE SPARED THE WORST OF THE DISASTER. (♪♪♪)>>>COMING UP… THOUSANDS OF INDIGENOUS ELDERS GATHER FOR THE FIRST TIME.>>>PLUS, A MADE-IN-CANADA STORY GOES TO TIFF WITH HELP FROM ANGELINA JOLIE.>>Interview: HER STORY IS SO POWERFUL BECAUSE IT RINGS TRUE.>>Wendy: A CANADIAN MAN WHO WENT TO SYRIA TO JOIN ISIS AS A TEEN IS BACK IN CANADA AND HE’S TALKING TO CBC NEWS ABOUT WHY HE WENT, WHAT HAPPENED WHEN HE WAS THERE, AND WHY HE DECIDED TO GET OUT. JOHN LANCASTER HAS THE STORY.>>Interview: THEY’RE ANSWERING THE CALL OF GOD.>>Reporter: WE’RE NOT IDENTIFYING THIS FORMER ISIS RECRUIT WHO IS SPEAKING OUT FOR THE FIRST TIME, REVEALING HOW HE WAS RADICALIZED ONLINE, AND LEFT HIS SUBURBAN TORONTO FAMILY AND IN 2014, SLIPPED INTO SYRIA WITH THE HELP OF ISIS SUPPORTERS.>>Interview: WE BASICALLY CRAWLED UNDER BROKEN PARTS OF THE BORDER AND JUST RAN IN.>>Reporter: AS AN 18-YEAR-OLD RECRUIT, HE WAS PAID $70 A MONTH TO PATROL STREETS OF MANJIB IN ALEPPO TO ENFORCE SHARIA LAW.>>Interview: WE ENFORCE ON DHL AND DRUGS AND WE’D ENFORCE OF THE MIXING OF WOMEN AND MEN.>>Reporter: HE CLAIMS HE NEVER HARMED ANYONE BUT DID SEE ISIS BRUTALIZING MUSLIMS REGULARLY, LASHINGS AND WORSE.>>Interview: THERE WERE ALSO BEHEADINGS TOO BUT THAT WAS FOR HIGHER CRIMES, FOR CRIMES THAT ARE AGAINST THE RELIGION ITSELF, AGAINST THE PEOPLE, AGAINST ISIS ITSELF.>>Reporter: FIVE MONTHS IN HE SAYS THAT HE REALISED THAT IT WAS A HUGE MISTAKE.>>Interview: I FELT LIKE I HAD VIOLATED THE RELIGION.>>Reporter: HE TOLD HIS PARENTS WHERE HE WAS AND WHAT HE’D DONE.>>Interview: MY DAD TOLD ME IT’S NOT MY WAR TO FIGHT.>>Reporter: HE FLED ISIS AND SURRENDERED TO SECURITY FORCES AT THE TURKISH BORDER. LAST YEAR HE FINALLY RETURNED TO CANADA AND NOW HE’S UNDERGOING DERADICALIZATION COUNSELLING FROM MUBIN SHAIKH, WHO HELPED TO EXPOSE THE SO-CALLED TORONTO 18 TERROR CELL.>>Interview: IF WE CAN QUOTE/UNQUOTE, GET ONE OF THEIR GUYS BACK ON OUR SIDE IT’S A GREAT VICTORY.>>Reporter: BUT SHAIKH SAYS THAT IT COULD TAKE YEARS AND HE’S BEEN INTERROGATED BY BOTH THE RCMP AND C.S.I.S. BUT NOT CHARGED WITH JOINING A TERROR GROUP. THIS SECURITY ANALYST SAYS THAT THERE MAY BE NO POINT IN PROSECUTING SOMEONE WHO CAN’T BE LINKED DIRECTLY TO VIOLENCE.>>Interview: IF WE DON’T HAVE ANYTHING THAT INDICATES TO THE CONTRARY THERE SHOULD BE NO NEED TO GO THAT CRIMINALIZED — THAT ROUTE OF CRIMINALIZATION.>>Reporter: STILL, THE RECRUIT KNOWS THAT MANY ARE SUSPICIOUS.>>Interview: THE REASON THAT I GREW UP WITH THEM, AND CANADA HAS A HUGE ROLE IN WHAT I AM NOW TOO.>>Reporter: NEITHER THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT NOR THE RCMP WOULD COMMENT ON THIS CASE SPECIFICALLY. C.S.I.S. ESTIMATES THAT ABOUT 60 CANADIANS HAVE RETURNED TO THIS COUNTRY AFTER JOINING FOREIGN TERROR GROUPS, MANY ARE BEING MONITORED, FEW HAVE BEEN CHARGED. JOHN LANCASTER, CBC NEWS, TORONTO.>>Wendy: HE WAS ONE OF THE MOST OUTSPOKEN MEMBERS OF DONALD TRUMP’S WHITE HOUSE STAFF, BUT NOW THAT STEVE BANNON IS OUT OF THE WEST WING HE STILL IS NOT PULLING ANY PUNCHES. PAUL HUNTER EXPLAINS. (♪♪♪)>>Reporter: FORMER WHITE HOUSE CHIEF STRATEGIST…>>Reporter: SETTING ASIDE THE IRONY THAT AFTER LONG DENIGRATING THE SO-CALLED MAINSTREAM MEDIA, STEVE BANNON CHOSE THE VENERABLE “60 MINUTES” FOR HIS FIRST EVER TV INTERVIEW, TRUE TO REPUTATION, BANNON HELD BACK LITTLE.>>Interview: THE REPUBLICAN ESTABLISHMENT IS TRYING TO NULLIFY THE 2016 ELECTION. THERE’S NOTHING TO THE RUSSIA INVESTIGATION. IT’S A WASTE OF TIME. HILLARY CLINTON IS NOT VERY BRIGHT. EVERYONE SAID SHE WAS SO SMART, SO MUCH SMARTER THAN DONALD TRUMP.>>Reporter: FOR THOSE WHO DON’T KNOW HIM, BANDON RUNS THE BREITBART NEWS AND CRITICIZED AS A RACIST AND SEXIST AND PRO-DONALD TRUMP WEBSITE. BANNON LEFT BREITBART LAST YEAR TO HELP TO RUN THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND THEN UNTIL LEAVING THE WHITE HOUSE LAST MONTH WAS THE PRESIDENT’S CHIEF STRATEGIST.>>Interview: I’M A STREET FIGHTER, THAT’S WHAT I AM.>>Reporter: THOUGH BANNON UNDERLINED THAT HE’LL KEEP SUPPORTING TRUMP FROM OUTSIDE OF THE WHITE HOUSE, HE WAS CRITICAL OF A DRAMATIC STEP TAKEN BY TRUMP.>>Reporter: JAMES COMEY WAS FIRED, CORRECT?>>Interview: AS I REMEMBER, YES, SIR.>>Reporter: TRUMP’S FIRING OF THE F.B.I. DIRECTOR JAMES COMEY SET OFF A FIRESTORM IN WASHINGTON THAT LED TO THE HIRING OF SPECIAL COUNSEL ROBERT MUELLER, WHO IS NOW INVESTIGATING WHETHER RUSSIA COLLUDED WITH THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN IN LAST YEAR’S ELECTION.>>Interview: I DON’T THINK THAT THERE’S ANY DOUBT THAT IF JAMES COMEY HAD NOT BEEN FIRED WE WOULD NOT HAVE A SPECIAL COUNSEL.>>Interview: SOMEONE SAID TO ME THAT YOU DESCRIBED THE FIRING OF JAMES COMEY AS THE BIGGEST MISTAKE IN POLITICAL HISTORY.>>Interview: THAT WOULD BE — THAT PROBABLY WOULD BE TOO BOMBASTIC EVEN FOR ME BUT MAYBE MODERN POLITICAL HISTORY.>>GOOD AFTERNOON.>>Reporter: THE WHITE HOUSE TODAY PUSHED BACK ON THAT, SAYING THAT IT’S LEARNED NEW INFORMATION ABOUT COMEY SINCE HIS FIRING, INCLUDING, IT SAID, THAT HE’S GIVEN FALSE TESTIMONY, THOUGH DIDN’T SAY WHEN.>>Interview: AND CERTAINLY, I THINK THAT IT HAS BEEN SHOWN IN THE DAYS THAT FOLLOWED THAT THE PRESIDENT WAS RIGHT IN FIRING DIRECTOR COMEY.>>Reporter: COMEY ASIDE, BANNON CALLED HIMSELF TRUMP’S WINGMAN, ONE OF THE FEW WHO HAD NEVER WAIVERRED LAST YEAR IN PREDICTING THAT TRUMP WOULD WIN THE WHITE HOUSE. ADDING, IF TRUMP STAYS TRUE TO HIMSELF IN 2020, HE’LL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE. PAUL HUNTER, CBC NEWS, WASHINGTON.>>Wendy: STEVE BANNON HAS ONE TAKE ON TRUMP’S FUTURE, A BIT LATER IN THE SHOW WE’LL GET MORE PERSPECTIVE FROM DAVID FRUM, THE FORMER PRESIDENTIAL SPEECH WRITER WHO CUTS THROUGH THE DISTRACTIONS TO TELL US WHAT REALLY MATTERS.>>>SHADES OF THE COLD WAR ALONG THE RUSSIAN FRONTIER TODAY. NATO FORCES HELD MILITARY EXERCISES IN WESTERN UKRAINE. A WEEK BEFORE THE RUSSIANS DO THE SAME IN BELARUS. SOME 2,000 ALLIED TROOPS TOOK PART, INCLUDING SOLDIERS FROM CANADA. RUSSIA SAYS THAT ITS UPCOMING MANOEUVRES WILL INVOLVE SOME 13,000 TROOPS THOUGH SOME ESTIMATE THAT THE REAL NUMBER COULD BE CLOSER TO 100,000.>>>AS MAN AS ONE MILLION PEOPLE TURNED NOW BARCELONA TODAY DEMANDING INDEPENDENCE FOR CATALONIA. SPAIN HAS ALREADY RULED OUT A REFERENDUM ON INDEPENDENCE PLANNED FOR NEXT MONTH BUT LOCAL OFFICIALS SAY THAT THEY’LL HOLD IT ANYWAY.>>>STRAIGHT AHEAD… HUNDREDS OF CANADIANS HAVE FALSIFIED CREDENTIALS FROM FAKE ♪ ♪ Reporter: Going back
to school. It’s about catching up,
letting go, and growing up. How do you
feel today? Happy. Because I — it’s
the first day of school, and I’m nervous. Reporter: One thing is universal
this first day, shiny clean faces,
new school outfits. First day,
they look so good. You should come tomorrow,
when they’re back to normal. Reporter: For some, the trek is
like going in to a prison yard, complete with barbed wire. [bell rings] Reporter: It’s a morning ritual
that begins every school day, but there was
a difference today. Moms and dads kept
a watchful eye from the back of
the grade one room as their kids settled
in to desks and got to know
the new teacher. If you thought it was
just the kids who get first day jitters,
think again. Oh, I have butterflies.
All the excitement, who’s going to
be their teacher, and who their
new little friends are going to be
and that. Reporter: And how do the kids
feel about being back? I love it. I hate it. Gee, it’s good to get back
to school, isn’t it? Nope. No? Why? I don’t like school. What don’t you like about
school, let’s put it that way? Hmm… the work. You don’t like
the work, do you? No. How about the teachers? Some of them are okay. What about the others? Hmm… they’re crappy. I was up in the classroom, doing work, I got all
my work right, and then I came —
then recess time, then we were playing, then we made my
teacher a picture. Reporter: Everything is new
the first day of school, where you sit,
and how everything works. ♪ ♪ It says bonjour. What do you say? [children speaking]
Bonjour. Bonjour.
Je m’appelle Madame — Reporter: It’s a day filled
with new information. It’s a terribly exciting
day, for most. ♪ ♪ Don’t you like anything
about school? Maybe, recess.
Yeah. Bye! Have a good day! You know, every year
they’re a little smarter, and a little more worldly,
but you still sometimes yearn for them still to
be that little kid. See you later, pal. (♪♪♪)>>Wendy: WHEN YOU HIRE A LAWYER OR SEEK COUNSELLING, DO YOU EVER ASK TO SEE CREDENTIALS? WOULD YOU EVER DOUBT THEM? IT TURNS OUT THAT HUNDREDS OF CANADIANS ARE PEDDLING FALSE POST-SECONDARY DEGREES TO GET JOBS AND TO SCAM EMPLOYERS AND OTHER UNSUSPECTING CANADIANS. “GO PUBLIC’S” ERICA JOHNSTON HAS THE STORY OF ONE FRAUDSTER.>>Reporter: IN THIS TV DRAMA, THE CHARACTER MIKE ROSS PRETENDS HE HAS A LAW DEGREE, GETS HIRED BY A LAW FIRM. BUT THAT SCAM PLAYED NOW REAL LIFE FOUR YEARS AGO WHEN CANAL INAYAT KASSAM TOLD A TORONTO LAWYER THAT HE HAD A LAW DEGREE FROM THE STATES. TURNS OUT THAT BOTH HIS B.A. AND LAW DEGREE WERE FROM PHONEY UNIVERSITIES THAT ONLY EXIST ONLINE. BUT SELL IMPRESSIVE-LOOKING TRANSCRIPTS AND DIPLOMAS, ENOUGH TO CONVINCE DENNIS YANG TO HIRE HIM AS A OFFICE MANAGER.>>Interview: THERE WERE NO RED FLAGS TO FEEL CONCERNED ABOUT.>>Reporter: YANG SET HIM UP IN AN OFFICE ON HIS OWN WHERE KASSAM PRETENDED HE WAS A LAWYER AND BILKED IMMIGRANTS OUT OF THOUSANDS AND PROMISED TO GET THEIR FAMILIES INTO CANADA AND CASHED IN ON HIS FAKE LAW DEGREE.>>Interview: HE WEAPONIZED IT AND USED IT AGAINST MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.>>Reporter: KASSAM WAS LIKEABLE AND PAIRED WITH HIS BOGUS DEGREES HE HOODWINKED PEOPLE.>>Interview: WE WERE DUPED BY SOMEONE JUST BECAUSE OF HIS DEMEANOUR AND THEY BELIEVED HIM BECAUSE THEY HAD NO REASON NOT TO BELIEVE HIM.>>Reporter: ONE OF HIS FAKE DEGREES CAME OUT OF PAKISTAN, FROM THIS DIPLOMA MILL, THE LARGEST IN THE WORLD. PART OF A BILLION DOLLAR INDUSTRY THAT CRANKS OUT PHONEY CREDENTIALS TO EAGER BUYERS AROUND THE GLOBE, INCLUDING, ACCORDING TO A “MARKETPLACE” INVESTIGATION, WHAT APPEARED TO BE MORE THAN 800 CANADIANS. WHO HAVE PAID FOR DEGREES IN EVERYTHING FROM EDUCATION TO HEALTH CARE TO ENGINEERING. THE AUTHOR OF A BOOK ON DIPLOMA MILLS SAYS THAT THE INTERNET PROVIDE EVERYTHING FRAUDSTERS NEED TO THRIVE.>>Interview: SOMETHING THAT WOULD GIVE THEM ANONYMITY AND SOMETHING THAT WOULD GIVE THEM FREE OR CHEAP ADVERTISING, AND SOMETHING THAT WOULD MAKE THEM ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND. AND THE INTERNET IS THEIR WILDEST DREAM COME TRUE.>>Reporter: INAYAT KASSAM WAS CONVICTED OF FRAUD EARLIER THIS YEAR FOR HIS WORK AT ANOTHER LAW FIRM. HE CLAIMS THAT HE THOUGHT THAT THE SUPPOSED LAW SCHOOL HE GRADUATED FROM WAS THE REAL DEAL, DESPITE NEVER ATTENDING A CLASS, MEETING A PROFESSOR, OR WRITING A SINGLE PAPER. ERICA JOHNSON, CBC NEWS, VANCOUVER.>>Wendy: AND ON THE SEASON PREMIERE OF “MARKETPLACE,” THE TEAM CONFRONTS SOME OF CANADA’S FALSE DEGREE HOLDERS AND YOU CAN SEE THAT PART OF THE STORY FRIDAY.>>>THOUSANDS OF FIRST NATIONS, MÉTIS AND INUIT ELDERS FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE MEETING THIS WEEK AND EDMONTON HAS THE FIRST EVER GATHERING OF ELDERS IN CANADA AND THEY’RE DISCUSSING DIFFICULT ISSUES THAT THEIR COMMUNITIES FACE LIKE DRUG USE AND RECONCILIATION AND MISSING AND MURDERED INDIGENOUS WOMEN. RAFFY BOUDJIKANIAN HAS THAT AND THE ELDERS’ MESSAGE TO NON-INDIGENOUS CANADIANS. (♪♪♪)>>BRITISH COLUMBIA!>>Reporter: THE OPENING CEREMONIES SHOWS THE SCOPE OF THIS MEETING.>>Interview: IT’S A STEP TOWARDS THE HEALING FROM THE RESIDENTIAL SCHOOLS AND FROM THE GENOCIDE AND THE ATTEMPTED ASSIMILATION AND THE COLONIALISM.>>Reporter: SNOW WANTS NON-INDIGENOUS CANADIANS TO LEARN SOMETHING TOO. IN 2015 THE TRUTH AND RECONCILIATION COMMISSION GAVE ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENTS 94 DIFFERENT CALLS TO ACTION TO IMPROVE RELATIONS WITH INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES. SNOW WANTS CANADIANS TO PUT PRESSURE ON THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS.>>Interview: IT’S NOT TOO LATE TO PICK UP AGAIN THE RELATIONSHIP.>>Reporter: FROM THE EVENT’S ORGANIZER A DIFFERENT MESSAGE FOR NON-INDIGENOUS CANADIANS.>>Interview: WE CAN TEACH ALSO INSTEAD OF JUST BEING ALSO PUSHED TO THE SIDE WE CAN BE PART OF THE EVERYDAY LIFE THAT EVERYBODY LIVES.>>Reporter: ONE THING IS CLEAR, THE ELDERS HERE ARE EAGER TO TALK TO EACH OTHER AND THEIR SUCCESSORS ABOUT PROBLEMS FACING THEIR COMMUNITIES TODAY. SOME EXPRESSING PARTICULAR CONCERN ABOUT THE SPREAD OF DRUGS.>>Interview: I BELIEVE IT’S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THE YOUTH AND THE YOUNG PEOPLE ARE HERE BECAUSE THEY — I BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO CONNECT WITH THEM. THEY NEED TO CONNECT WITH US IN ORDER TO ADDRESS WHAT WE’RE — WHAT THE CHALLENGES ARE TOGETHER.>>Prime Minister Justin Trudeau: ON BEHALF OF THE GOVERNMENT OF CANADA…>>Reporter: THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WAS NOT PRESENT TODAY AT THE GATHERING BUT DID ACKNOWLEDGE THE CHALLENGES.>>Prime Minister Justin Trudeau: I HOPE THAT THIS GATHERING IS A CHANCE FOR YOU TO HAVE FRUITFUL CONVERSATIONS ON THESE CRITICAL ISSUES.>>Reporter: WHATEVER THE PATH FORWARD MAY LOOK LIKE, THESE GATHERINGS OF ELDERS MAY BE PART OF IT. THE ELDERS HOPE TO HAVE THEIR NEXT MEETING IN TWO YEARS. RAFFY BOUDJIKANIAN, CBC NEWS, EDMONTON.>>Wendy: IT WAS A BRIGHT SUNNY DAY IN NEW YORK CITY, MUCH LIKE THE SEPTEMBER 11th THAT PEOPLE WERE THINKING OF AND REMEMBERING IN CEREMONIES AROUND THE U.S. TODAY, INCLUDING IN LOWER MANHATTAN. [BELL TOLLS]>>Interview: SHE WAS IN THE NORTH TOWER ON THE WINDOWS ON THE WORLD.>>Interview: THIS IS WHERE MY BROTHER TOOK HIS LAST BREATHS AND THAT’S WHERE I WANT TO BE.>>Interview: AS TIME GOES ON WE GET STRONGER AND WE HEAL BUT WE NEVER FORGET.>>Wendy: ALONG WITH THE MAIN CEREMONY IN NEW YORK THERE WERE COMMEMORATIONS AT THE PENTAGON WHERE ONE OF THE PLANES CRASHED DURING THE 2001 ATTACKS AND IN THAT PENNSYLVANIA FIELD WHERE THE FOURTH HIJACKED PLANE WENT DOWN. THE MEMORIALS CONTINUED ALL DAY, ENDING WITH THIS, TWO BEAMS OF LIGHT AS TRIBUTE TO THE WORLD TRADE CENTRE VICTIMS THAT WILL STAY LIT UNTIL DAWN.>>>UP NEXT… A FORMER SPEECH WRITER FOR ONE U.S. PRESIDENT WEIGHS ON THE CURRENT ONE.>>Interview: IT’S A SCANDAL AND IT’S AN OUTRAGE AND IT’S AN ATTACK ON NATIONAL SECURITY AND DEMOCRACY BUT IT’S NOT A CRIME.>>Wendy: DAVID FRUM WATCHES THE WHITE HOUSE LIKE A HAWK. TONIGHT HE SHARES PERSPECTIVES ON THE RUSSIAN INVESTIGATION, STEVE BANNON’S BITING WORDS, AND THE PRESIDENT’S STATE OF MIND.>>>NOW LET’S CHECK THE DAY’S BUSINESS NUMBERS, THE T.S.X. EDGED UP 54 POINTS. THE DOLLAR INCREASED SLIGHTLY. IN NEW YORK, THE DOW GAINED 259 POINTS. AND THE PRICE OF OIL BUMPED UP .59 CENTS A BAR One night last week
a baby was born in Britain, a little girl. Her birth has created
controversy all around the world because she was conceived
in a test tube. It gives hope to thousands
of childless couples. It has also raised serious
ethical questions about interfering with
nature. [baby cries] Reporter: To many doctors
the birth is simply a natural development
of modern medicine. But there are those who say
that doctors are defying God. I’m not
in favour of it. I am very worried that she
might grow up to be abnormal. Science seems to be
a thing of the future. We have to live
for the science. And it looks
like our future is going to be
dictated by its science. Will they
start also… Make their own
race type of thing? Like taking genes and things
from certain people and saying we want
this type of person, want an intelligent person,
we want them to look like this. Announcer: Here making her
first guest appearance on television is
Baby Louise and her parents,
John and Leslie Brown. [applause] This is certainly
a very happy story, Louise is
a beautiful baby, but I know there
has been criticism. Does this bother you at all?
How do you handle that? It’s a only a very
small minority that’s
criticized it. Mind your
language! Reporter: In some ways she’s
like any other 10-year-old girl getting ready for
a birthday party. Excited,
a little giddy perhaps, at all
the attention. What makes her different
is not that she is ten. It’s that she
exists at all. The thing that I find
is so wonderful is that she is
very intelligent. She has been told all about
test tube babies. Her sister has. The family is
wonderful. [laughing] Reporter: Louise and her
six-year-old sister Natalie, are both
in vitro babies. Reporter: The world’s first
test tube baby celebrated her 25th birthday
today. Despite the significance
of her birth, Louise Brown doesn’t
feel special. It doesn’t even enter my head,
apart from things like this. Reporter: Since her birth more
than one million babies worldwide have been born
using in vitro fertilization. ♪ ♪ ♪ [Star Wars theme] Star Wars has run, at this one
theatre, the Odeon, now for 31 weeks. For the first 19 weeks
it ran five times a day and since then
four times a day. I watch certain parts
of it over again. Do you find
it boring? No. Even though you’ve
seen it so many times? Not really,
no. [laser strike; explosion] [laser fire] How many times
did you see Star Wars? Three. Seven.
This is my eighth time. Six times. [laser fire] Why have you
come back six times? Cause it’s such
a good show. [laser fire] Reporter: The Return
of the Jedi, [laser fire] the movie premiered today
across North America. A privileged few
got to see it last night. And in the Ottawa audience
was 11-year-old Justin Trudeau. Vader’s
on that ship. Han: Now don’t get
jittery Luke. There are a lot of
command ships. Justin, how did you
like the movie? Great. It was better than
the Empire Strikes Back or Star Wars,
at least I think so. Was it what
you expected? Uh, no more,
much more. Reporter: Now
20-years later, many of those
original Star Wars fans are gearing themselves up
for this weekend’s re-release. Sort of like a generation
thing, you know. I had all the figures
and stuff like that. I mean, he wants all the figures
things like that now as well. But I tell you,
I wish I had the lightsaber. [laughs] [loud electric pulse] Reporter: Theatres across
Toronto were putting on the final touches for
The Phantom Menace. And Star Wars fans
seemed more than ready. Well I’ve waited
for this since, you know, 1983 – so a really
long time. But I’ve officially been
here for two weeks, since the 5th of May. And I’ve logged about
100 hours in the line. [plastic swords hit each other] Reporter: In a matter of moments
fans will get what they have been waiting
weeks for. This is fifteen years.
This is… The whole youth, my whole past
is building up to this. ♪ [Star Wars theme] Reporter: But as the doors
are about to open, a new era begins for
Star Wars fans, one that may be more about
the wait and anticipation, than the actual
movie. ♪ [Star Wars theme]>>Interview: I THINK THAT IS WHY DONALD TRUMP AND I GET ALONG SO WELL, HE’S A FIGHTER, A GREAT COUNTER PUNCHER. I’LL BE HIS WINGMAN ON THE OUTSIDE FOR THE ENTIRE TIME.>>Wendy: THERE’S ANOTHER TASTE OF THE FORMER WHITE HOUSE CHIEF STRATEGIST STEVE BANNON. LAST NIGHT ON “60 MINUTES” HE PRAISED DONALD TRUMP IN ONE BREATH AND SLAMMED HIM THE NEXT SO LET’S LOOK PAST THE SIDESHOWS AND ZERO IN ON THE CHALLENGES THAT TRUMP COULD POSE TO HIS PARTY, HIS COUNTRY AND PERHAPS EVEN CANADA. DAVID FRUM WROTE SPEECHES FOR ANOTHER REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT — GEORGE W. BUSH. NOW HE’S THE SENIOR EDITOR AT “THE ATLANTIC” AND AN EAGLE-EYED CRITIC OF THIS CURRENT ADMINISTRATION.>>Interview: I’M HERE TO ANNOUNCE THAT THE PROGRAM KNOWN AS DACA THAT WAS EFFECTIATED UNDER THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION IS BEING RESCINDED.>>Interview: IT’S MY JUDGMENT THAT I WAS FIRED BECAUSE OF THE RUSSIA INVESTIGATION, AND THE ENDEAVOUR WAS TO CHANGE THE WAY THAT THE RUSSIA INVESTIGATION WAS BEING CONDUCTED.>>President Donald Trump: I THINK THAT THERE’S BLAME ON BOTH SIDES AND YOU LOOK AT BOTH SIDES AND I THINK THAT THERE’S BLAME ON BOTH SIDES. (♪♪♪)>>Wendy: IT WAS A SUMMER OF NEWS AND CHAOS AROUND THE WHITE HOUSE. AND INSIDE IT.>>President Donald Trump: I THINK HE’S GOING TO BE JUST FINE, OKAY?>>Interview: I’M VERY HAPPY, I HAVE TO THANK THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.>>Wendy: TENSIONS GREW WITHIN THE U.S….>>Interview: WE STAND HERE TODAY ON A SHAMEFUL DAY FOR AMERICA.>>Wendy: AND BEYOND ITS BORDERS.>>President Donald Trump: I DON’T THINK THAT WE CAN MAKE A DEAL, SO I THINK THAT WE’LL END UP PROBABLY TERMINATING NAFTA.>>Wendy: BUT AS SUMMER NEARS ITS END, WHAT ARE THE LASTING IMPLICATIONS FOR PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP? AND WHAT NEW DEVELOPMENTS LAY AHEAD? IT’S BEEN QUITE A FEW MONTHS, BOY, OH, BOY, AND IT’S SO NICE TO TALK TO YOU, DAVID. I WANT TO START WITH THE NEWS OF THE DAY, “60 MINUTES” AND THERE WAS AN INTERVIEW WITH STEVE BANNON, THE FORMER SENIOR STRATEGIST FOR PRESIDENT SAYING, QUOTE “THAT FIRING COMEY WAS THE BIGGEST MISTAKE IN MODERN POLITICAL HISTORY, THE HEAD OF THE F.B.I..” WAS THAT THE BIGGEST MISTAKE IN MODERN POLITICAL HISTORY?>>Interview: WELL, IT DEPENDS ON HOW GUILTY YOU ARE. SO FIRING COMEY DID LAUNCH THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION BUT IT ALSO BOUGHT PRESIDENT TRUMP TIME BECAUSE IF HE HADN’T FIRED COMEY THE F.B.I. WOULD HAVE BEEN HOT ON HIS HEELS FOR WHATEVER IT IS THAT HE IS SO EAGER TO HIDE. THERE MAY BE CRIMES IN THE VICINITY OF DONALD TRUMP AND THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN, HIS FORMER NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR, MICHAEL FLYNN, DID HE DID NOT DECLARE HIMSELF AS A FOREIGN AGENT WHEN HE WAS RECEIVING FOREIGN MONEY, THAT’S A CRIME. IF PAUL MANAFORT DID NOT DISCLOSE FOREIGN RECEIPTS OR PAY THE PROPER TAXES THOSE ARE CRIMES. BUT SHOCKINGLY, IT IS NOT IN ITSELF A CRIME FOR AN AMERICAN PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN TO WORK THE HOSTILE FOREIGN POWER. IT’S A SCANDAL AND IT’S AN OUTRAGE AND AN ATTACK ON NATIONAL SECURITY AND DEMOCRACY BUT IT’S NOT A CRIME. AND IF THAT’S THE BIGGEST QUESTION WE HAVE, BUT IT MAY GET BOGGED DOWN IN A LOT OF TECHNICAL DISCUSSION ON CABLE TV OF WAS THIS LAW BROKEN OR THAT LAW BROKEN.>>Wendy: YOU WROTE MONTHS AGO THAT YOU THINK THAT HE’D MAKE IT TO THE END OF HIS TERM, YOU STILL THINK SO?>>Interview: BARRING A HEALTH EVENT HE PROBABLY MAKES IT TO THE END OF HIS TERM. THE REPUBLICANS CONTROL BOTH HOUSES OF CONGRESS AND BOTH HOUSES OF CONGRESS HAVE TO ACT TO IMPEACH A PRESIDENT AND THE HOUSE IMPEACHES AND THE SENATE REMOVES AND YOU HAVE TO IMAGINE THAT FIRST THE DEMOCRATS WIN BOTH HOUSES OF CONGRESS IN 2018, AND, SECOND, THERE’S CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE OF REALLY SERIOUS WRONGDOING BY HIM PERSONALLY AND, THIRD, EVEN WITH THOSE TWO THINGS HAPPENING THE DEMOCRATS STILL SAY, HMM, YOU KNOW WE’D RATHER RUN AGAINST HIM IN 2020 THAN TO BRING HIM DOWN IN 2018.>>Wendy: YOU THINK THAT THE REPUBLICANS ARE STILL WITH HIM?>>Interview: THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, IF YOU MEAN OFFICE HOLDERS AND MEMBERS OF THE SENATE, THEY’VE BEEN TERRIFIED OF HIM AND UPSET WITH HIM BUT THEY GO ALONG WITH HIM OUT OF FEAR, NOT OUT OF BELIEF. SO PEOPLE LIKE PAUL RYAN AND MITCH McCONNELL THEY LIVE IN FEAR OF HIM, AND OF THE VOTERS.>>Wendy: YOU HAVE A NEW BOOK THAT SAYS HE’S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CORRUPTION OF AMERICAN DEMOCRACY SO IF HE’S THERE AS YOU PREDICT FOR MANY MORE YEARS, HOW MANY DAMAGE HAS BEEN DONE AND HOW MANY DAMAGE COULD BE DONE.>>Interview: THANK YOU FOR THE MENTION OF THE BOOK AND IT’S OUT IN JANUARY AND I’M NOT ABOUT MAKING A COMMERCIAL AND IT’S CALLED “TRUMPOCRACY” AND HOW THIS IS ALL INTENDED TO SCREEN OUT A CHARACTER LIKE DONALD TRUMP, HOW DID HE GET PAST THAT SCREEN AND HOW DOES HE CONTINUE TO DO DAMAGE? HE’S DOING ENORMOUS DAMAGE. EVERY DAY — BECAUSE A LOT OF THINGS THAT MAKE DEMOCRACY GO IN ANY COUNTRY AREN’T WRITTEN DOWN. THERE’S NO LAW THAT SAYS THAT THE PRESIDENT HAS TO RELEASE THE PRESIDENT’S TAX RETURNS. THE PRESIDENTS JUST DO IT. THERE’S NO LAW THAT SAYS THAT THE PRESIDENT’S FAMILY CAN’T SHAMELESSLY CASH IN ON THE PRESIDENT, AND THERE’S LIMITS ON WHAT THE PRESIDENT CAN DO BUT NOT ON WHAT HIS CHILDREN CAN DO. PEOPLE JUST DIDN’T DO IT. BUT ONCE SOMEBODY STARTS AND IT’S VERY HARD TO WRITE LAWS AFTER TO PREVENT IT, PEOPLE DO IT. BUT ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS THINGS THAT’S HAPPENING, ONE OF THE VERY MOST DANGEROUS, IS THE REST OF THE GOVERNMENT IS REACTING AGAINST DONALD TRUMP LIKE SCAR TISSUE BUILDING UP OR LIKE AN AUTOIMMUNE DISORDER AND PEOPLE ARE DOING THINGS, CERTAINLY TO TRY TO PROTECT THE GOVERNMENT AGAINST DONALD TRUMP THAT ARE ALSO HARMFUL. I MEAN, I IMAGINE THAT MANY PEOPLE ARE SYMPATHETIC TO THE MILITARY REFUSING TO OBEY THE PRESIDENT’S ORDER ON TRANSGENDER TROOPS FOR SO LONG. BASICALLY SAYING, YOU KNOW, NO, WE DON’T THINK SO AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELPFUL COMMENTS BUT, NO. HERE’S THE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF AND THEY’RE SUPPOSED TO DO WHAT HE SAYS AND YET THEY’RE GETTING INTO MORE OF THE HABIT OF NOT ONLY DISOBEYING HIM BUT ACTUALLY TELLING FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS ON THE RECORD WHEN THE PRESIDENT SAYS THIS ABOUT NORTH KOREA THAT’S NOT JUST BINDING, THAT’S JUST ONE MAN’S OPINION.>>Wendy: BUT THE BASE SEEMS TO STILL LIKE HIM?>>Interview: YOU DON’T LOSE ELECTIONS WITH ZERO PERCENT OF THE VOTE, THERE’S ALWAYS SOMEBODY. THE TASK FOR RESPONSIBLE OPPOSITION TO PRESIDENT TRUMP IS TO BUILD COALITION OF ENOUGH PEOPLE THAT THE UNITED STATES CAN HAVE A DIFFERENT KIND OF GOVERNMENT.>>Wendy: SO WHAT WILL THAT TAKE?>>Interview: UM, I THINK THAT WILL TAKE, UM, I THINK THAT IT WILL PROBABLY TAKE IS SOME DEMOCRATIC GAINS IN THE ELECTION OF 2018 SUFFICIENT TO JOLT THE LEADERSHIP OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY TO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY MADE A BAD BET IN 2016. THEY THOUGHT THEY COULD CONTROL HIM AND THEY HAVE DISCOVERED THAT HE IS CONTROLLING THEM. AS INCOMPETENT AND AMATEURISH AS HE IS, THAT HE HAS HAD MORE IMPACT ON THE REPUBLICAN PARTY THAN IT’S HAD UPON HIM AM.>>Wendy: THERE’S A BIG DEBATE IN THE AMERICAN MEDIA RIGHT NOW WHETHER TO COME RIGHT OUT AND SAY THAT HE’S NOT WELL, THAT HE’S UNSTABLE, BUT THERE’S THIS TRADITION OF EVEN PSYCHIATRISTS SAYING, NO, WE’RE NOT GOING THERE, HOW WOULD WE KNOW?>>Interview: IN THE ELECTION OF 1964, A PROMINENT PSYCHIATRIST WROTE AN ARTICLE THAT GOLDWATER WAS MENTALLY UNWELL AND IT WAS NOT TRUE AND THERE’S BEEN A BELIEF AMONG PSYCHIATRISTS THAT YOU SHOULD NOT DIAGNOSE ANYBODY WHO IS NOT LITERALLY YOUR PATIENT. SO THERE’S A GREAT –>>Wendy: BUT THIS DEBATE IS HAPPENING NOW.>>Interview: THIS DEBATE IS HAPPENING, WELL, BECAUSE OF CABLE TV — LOOK, WE ALL CARRY IN OUR POCKETS A LITTLE BOX THAT EVERY DAY BRINGS US THE SECRET THOUGHTS OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND YOU LOOK AT THAT AND SAY THAT SEEMS PRETTY CRAZY.>>Reporter: TONIGHT JAMES ROSEN LOOKS AT HOW SOME ARE NOW QUESTIONING THE PRESIDENT’S MENTAL STABILITY.>>Interview: I REALLY QUESTION HIS ABILITY TO — HIS FITNESS TO BE IN THIS OFFICE.>>Interview: THIS IS A MAN WHO IS NOT WELL.>>Reporter: IS IT TRUE THAT REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES OF YOURS EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT PRESIDENT TRUMP’S MENTAL HEALTH?>>Interview: A FEW.>>Interview: I THINK THAT IS A RIDICULOUS AND OUTRAGEOUS CLAIM.>>Interview: I’M NOT A PSYCHIATRIST SO I DON’T HAVE TO BE BOUND BY THIS RULE. HE OBVIOUSLY PRESENTS THE SYMPTOMS OF CAPITAL N, CAPITAL D, NARCISSISTIC PERSONALITY DISORDER, AND NOT THE SELF-INVOSMMENT THAT WE MEAN, BUT LITERALLY, SOMEONE WHO HAS THAT GAPING HOLE IN THE SOUL THAT IS COVERED BY BUILDING THIS GIANT EGO AND THEN VICIOUSLY ATTACKING AND ATTEMPTING TO DESTROY ANYONE WHO TOUCHES THAT EDIFICE BECAUSE THE PERSON WITH THIS DISORDER ARE SO AFRAID THAT THEIR CRITICS ARE RIGHT.>>Wendy: AND THE REVOLVING DOOR, A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE LEFT THE WHITE HOUSE, AND NOW JOHN KELLY, THE MILITARY MAN, IS BROUGHT IN TO TRY TO CONTROL DONALD TRUMP. IS DONALD TRUMP CONTROLLABLE?>>Interview: DONALD TRUMP IS NOT CONTROLLABLE.>>Wendy: SO WHO IS IN CONTROL?>>Interview: WELL, IT’S A CONTENTION, BUT, LOOK, ALL GOVERNMENTS HAVE A LOT OF COMPETING EGOS AND COMPETING IMPERATIVES AND THAT CAN BE VERY CREATIVE AND IT’S MESSY BUT IT’S CREATIVE. IN THIS CASE THE MECHANISMS THAT MAKE IT WORK ARE LARGELY ABSENT SO THE PRESIDENT IS MORE AND MORE TRAPPED INSIDE OF A LOT OF STRUCTURES HE DIDN’T BUILD AND THAT HE DOESN’T LIKE SO HE’LL BE A GOOD BOY FOR 24, 36 OR 72 HOURS AND THEN HE’LL LASH OUT AND SAY SOMETHING OR DO SOMETHING CRAZY. LIKE THAT TERRIBLE REMARK ABOUT FIRE AND FURY IN HIS SPEECH.>>President Donald Trump: NORTH KOREA BEST NOT MAKE ANYMORE THREATS TO THE UNITED STATES. THEY WILL BE MET WITH FIRE AND FURY LIKE THE WORLD HAS NEVER SEEN.>>Interview: HE SEEMED TO BE THREATENING TO STRIKE FIRST, AMERICAN POLICY HAS BEEN THAT NORTH KOREA YOU UNDERSTAND IF YOU ACT OUT IT’S THE END FOR YOU. BUT YOU GO FIRST. YOU KNOW, WE WILL NOT ATTACK YOU. PRESIDENT TRUMP SEEMED TO THREATEN THAT HE’D ATTACK FIRST AND THAT’S A VERY DANGEROUS THING TO DO WHEN YOU’RE DEALING WITH NUCLEAR WEAPONS AND IT’S ALWAYS DANGEROUS TO DO BUT ESPECIALLY WITH NUCLEAR WEAPONS.>>Wendy: THE OTHER STEVE BANNON QUOTE IS THAT HE’S PREDICTING THAT THERE WILL BE A NATIONALIST, POPULIST MOVEMENT BUT HE DOESN’T KNOW WHETHER IT WILL BE FROM THE LEFT OR THE RIGHT. IS HE RIGHT?>>Interview: WE’RE SEEING THAT ACROSS THE DEVELOPED WORLD. THE COMBINATION OF SLOW ECONOMIC GROWTH, WHICH MEANS THERE’S LESS TO GO AROUND AND THE AGING OF THE BABY BOOMERS, WHICH IS THE BIGGEST GENERATION TO DATE THAT IS ARRIVING AT THE AGE WHEN THEY NEED THE SUPPORT OF GOVERNMENT, AND RISING LEVELS OF ETHNIC DIVERSITY WITHIN SOCIETIES WHICH HAS THE EFFECT OF REDUCING SOCIAL TRUST BETWEEN GROUPS MEANS THAT THEIR OPPORTUNITIES FOR NATIONALIST ACTORS AND THEY’RE SEASONED. CANADA HAS BEEN EXEMPT AND YOU CAN UNDERSTAND A LOT OF WHY IT’S HAPPENING ELSEWHERE, CANADA IS THE DOG THAT DIDN’T BARK AND YOU CAN LEARN A LOT ABOUT THE DOGS THAT DO FROM THE DOG THAT DIDN’T.>>Wendy: AH-HA! WE HAVE TO TAKE A SHORT BREAK BUT DAVID FRUM HEADS MORE ON HAR ♪ ♪ Reporter: Just an hour after
the New York attack, planes started arriving
in Gander. While local officials figured
out what to do, passengers waited on board
in 30 degree heat. It was dusk before the first
passengers were processed and given a place to sleep. They knew little
of the day’s events. The crew didn’t really
tell us much. Of course we didn’t really know
what was going on. Reporter:
They quickly found out. There’s the plane.
You can’t miss that. [crowd murmuring] Incredible. Reporter: All night,
plane by plane, the passengers were allowed
to disembark. But their was little anger
with their own plight. I think we were just happy
to be on the ground at that point, given
what we had heard. Reporter: Every school,
church halls and basements made in to make-shift shelters. 750 at this Gander school. Many not knowing
even where they were. A lot fewer people know
Gander, never heard before. But now they know. They know of it now. Absolutely. Reporter: Daybreak brought the
reality of the task for Gander and all the surrounding
communities that chipped
in to help. Where’s this load
of stuff going? Glenwood.
School in Glenwood. Reporter: At the Salvation Army,
a desperate call for help was answered
by local residents. The biggest need for food,
towels and bedding. Getting lots of volunteers,
lots of donations, blankets, towels, food, and there’s still
a lot more to do, so we’re pushing on. Reporter:
All of what’s happening is being appreciated by
the unexpected tourists. We’re very grateful and I would
hope that Americans would treat Canadians
with the same kindness. The people in this town should
be blessed forever. Reporter: This morning,
it’s breakfast for 300. Hopefully we’ll get them all fed
within a reasonable time. How long have you been
here helping out? We came here yesterday morning
and we worked until 9:00, 10:00 last night,
we came back again 7:00 this morning. Reporter:
Most of the food donated, cooked in a school home
economics class room. None of this extraordinary
hospitality lost on the visitors. But everybody, I mean, everybody in the whole
town has pulled together. And we’re chuffed to bits.
We really are proud. You’re absolutely great, you
all. You’re lovely people. I just hope we could do the same if it ever happened
in our country. Reporter:
Joe Dunn is giving back. Serving breakfast to the town
that fed and housed him for five days when his plane was forced
to land in Gander on September 11th. Today he was joined by a dozen
other US passengers who’ve returned on this day. I can only equate it to a love
from a grandmother. That’s really what it felt like. The matrons in town,
it was really — it was their caring,
it was just unbelievable. It was a great example
of the human spirit. Reporter: That caring has turned
in to friendship. Dunn continues to stay in touch and reunite with the woman
who gave him shelter. Stella Brazil welcomed
other passengers in to her home on 9/11. She’s just one of hundreds of
local people that did the same. I think it’s just
our nature to be that way and nobody
looked at it as being any type of a big
sacrifice. Reporter: The US Ambassador
came to Newfoundland to say thank you, and remember
this day in a way most other Americans aren’t. On the one hand, it’s a very sad, tragic event that we’re
here to commemorate. But on the other hand,
you see the spirit of these people and the spirit
of the kids, and it makes you feel good. ♪ ♪>>When they were trying to come up with a name for the park, it was between Tom Thomson Park and…>>Chemical Park?>>The chemical factory.>>What would you want to do at Chemical Park, except LSD? This is South River, Ontario.>>Announcer: The season finale of Still Standing, Tuesday at 8:00 on CBC.>>President Donald Trump: I HAVE A LOVE FOR THESE PEOPLE AND HOPEFULLY NOW CONGRESS WILL BE ABLE TO HELP THEM AND TO DO IT PROPER LIE.>>Interview: DONALD TRUMP SAYS HE LOVES THE DREAMERS BUT ON TUESDAY HE MAY END THE PROGRAM KNOWN AS DACA THAT ALLOWS NEARLY A MILLION YOUNG PEOPLE TO LIVE AND WORK IN THIS COUNTRY WITHOUT FEAR OF DEPORTATION.>>Wendy: BIG SPLIT IN THE UNITED STATES RIGHT NOW ABOUT TRUMP’S POSITION ON DACA, WHICH IS UNDOCUMENTED CHILDREN. WHAT IMPACT — DO YOU SEE — HOW DOES THAT PLAY OUT FOR CANADIANS? DOES THAT MEAN MORE PEOPLE COMING HERE AND WILL THAT SPLIT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY THERE?>>Interview: WELL, ONE OF THE IMPACTS IT HAS HAD ON CANADA IS THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT SPOKE VERY LOOSELY ABOUT WELCOMING REFUGEES. IT WROTE A CHEQUE IT NEVER INTENDED FOR ANYBODY TO CASH AND PEOPLE ARE CASHING IT BECAUSE NOT ONLY ARE REFUGEES COMING FROM AROUND THE WORLD BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES WHO DON’T HAVE PROPER STATUS IN THE UNITED STATES WHO NOW FIND THEMSELVES UNDER PRESSURE AND SAY THAT CANADA IS AN EASIER BET AND THEY’RE CROSSING. I HAVE BEEN WARNING ABOUT THIS FOR A LONG TIME THAT THERE’S GOING TO BE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE COMING INTO CANADA. CANADA NEEDS A MUCH CLEARER MESSAGE TO THE WORLD THAT CANADIAN LAWS WILL BE ENFORCED BECAUSE IT LEADS TO CRISIS.>>Wendy: SO YOU THINK THAT SOME OF THOSE UNDOCUMENTED KIDS AFFECTED BY THIS — BY TRUMP?>>Interview: I DON’T KNOW LITERALLY THE DACA POPULATION BUT THERE’S PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES COMPLETELY ILLEGAL, ESPECIALLY IN MINNESOTA AND SOME THE SOMALI ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS IN MINNESOTA WILL MAKE THEIR WAY TO CANADA. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SHOULD BE A WARNING TO CANADA FROM THE DONALD TRUMP EXPERIENCE IS THAT IF — THERE ARE THINGS THAT PEOPLE EXPECT THE GOVERNMENT TO DO INCLUDING MAKING SURE THAT IMMIGRATION IS CARRIED OUT IN AN ORDERLY AND LEGAL WAY. AND IF LIBERAL-MINDED PEOPLE WON’T DO IT, IT’S NOT THAT THE PEOPLE WON’T ACCEPT THAT IT WON’T BE DONE, THEY’LL TURN TO EXTREMISTS TO DO THE JOB THAT LIBERAL-MINDED PEOPLE WON’T DO SO THESE JOBS SHOULD BE DONE WITH PEOPLE WITH MORE NORMAL POLITICAL VIEWS.>>Wendy: SO WHAT’S YOUR ADVICE FOR JUSTIN TRUDEAU?>>Interview: ENFORCE YOUR BORDERS, ENFORCE YOUR BORDERS. BECAUSE IF YOU DON’T YOU’RE NOT DOING ANYBODY ANY FAVOURS. WHAT YOU’RE DOING IS INVITING THE EXTREMISM THAT WE HAVE SEEN IN EUROPE AND BECAUSE IT’S AN ORDERLY PROCESS, FROM MANY DIFFERENT PLACES SO THERE’S NO ONE GROUP AND NO THIRD LANGUAGE GROWS UP IN IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES AND CANADIANS HAVE BEEN VERY ACCEPTING BUT THIS IS A TREMENDOUS SUCCESS AND IT DIDN’T JUST HAPPEN BY ACCIDENT. SUCCESS IS ALWAYS WORKED FOR. AND IMMIGRATION IS A STRESS ON ANY SOCIETY AND IT HAS POTENTIALLY POSITIVE RESULTS IF MANAGED WELL BUT IF YOU LOOSE CONTROL OF IT CAN HAVE POPULOUS MOVEMENTS THAT THREATEN NOT ONLY THE MIGRATION ISSUE BUT THREATEN THE STABILITY OF YOUR WHOLE DEMOCRACY.>>Wendy: JUSTIN TRUDEAU HAS BEEN CALLED THE TRUMP WHISPERER BECAUSE HE SEEMS TO HAVE A FRIENDLY RELATIONSHIP. WHAT DO YOU THINK OF — I DON’T WANT TO SAY HANDLING — BUT HIS HANDLING OF DONALD TRUMP?>>Interview: CANADA DOESN’T HAVE A LOT OF GOOD OPTIONS. GERMANY, WHICH IS STRONGER AND RICHER AND FARTHER AWAY, CAN BE MORE DEFIANT OF THE UNITED STATES. CANADA HAS TO BE CAREFUL. AND CANADA ALSO HAS THE MOST IMPORTANT JOB FOR ANY LEADER IN CANADA IS TO REMEMBER THAT CANADA HAS AN ENORMOUS NUMBER OF FRIENDS IN THE UNITED STATES. IN FACT, CANADA HAS MORE FRIENDS IN THE UNITED STATES THAN DONALD TRUMP HAS FRIENDS IN THE UNITED STATES. SO IN MANAGING AN ISSUE LIKE NAFTA, REMEMBER THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS ON CANADA’S SIDE AND THE GOVERNORS HAVE SWAY OVER THEIR DELEGATION SO THE SMART PLAY IS TO UNDERSTAND THERE ARE THINGS IN NAFTA THAT NEED TO BE UP-TO-DATE AND IT WAS WRITTEN BEFORE THERE WAS AN INTERNET AS PEOPLE POINT OUT BUT IT HAS TO BE WORKED ON IN GOOD FAITH. THERE’S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING WITH CANADA ON THAT, DONALD TRUMP WON’T, SO THE TASK CANADIAN POLITICAL LEADERSHIP IS TO BUILD NETWORKS OF FRIENDSHIP WITHIN THE UNITED STATES. THAT MEANS OFTEN A VERY SOFT LINE AND I KNOW THAT IT’S UNSATISFYING FOR CANADIANS WHO WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEIR COUNTRIES LEADER IN SPEAK OUT IN, SAY, THE LEADER OF THE GERMAN CHANCELLOR HAS DONE BUT IT’S NOT AN OPTION FOR CANADA.>>Wendy: DAVID, THANK YOU.>>Interview: THANKS.>>Wendy: DAVID FRUM.>>>UP NEXT, GIRL POWER GOES TO THE FILM FESTIVAL WITH A BOOST FROM ANGELINA JOLIE.>>Interview: OOH ANNA MARIA TREMONTI, TOMORROW ON “CURRENT” FOUR DECADES MERCURY POISONING AND GRASSY NARROWS HAVE BEEN SYNONYMOUS AND IT’S THE YOUTH OF THE COMMUNITY WHO HAVE HAD TO LIVE AND SUFFER WITH IT. THAT’S ON “THE CURRENT” WEEKDAYS AT 8:30 ON CBC RADIO ONE ♪ [theme] ♪ [slow; rhythmic] ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪>>Announcer: This hour has 22 Minutes. New season starts September 26th at 8:30 on CBC. ♪ [ Heartland theme plays
on a music box ] ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪>>Grace, don’t think I don’t know what you’ve been up to.>>Will you tell me your story, Grace? Cause the real one is not written in your confession.>>Grace, I cannot be found out.>>You’ll help me if you know what’s good for you, Grace. Otherwise you’ll be blamed for it all.>>Murderess is a strong word to have attached to you. Sometimes at night I whisper it over myself. Murderess. Murderess. Murderess. (♪♪♪)>>Wendy: A-LISTERS AND MOVIE BUFFS AND INDUSTRY INSIDERS ARE IN TORONTO FOR THE INTERNATIONAL FILM FESTIVAL. ONE OF THE FILMS MAKING ITS WORLD DEBUT IS “THE BREADWINNER” BASED ON A BESTSELLING BOOK. ELI GLASNER HAS MORE ON ITS CANADIAN CONNECTIONS AND THE MAJOR HOLLYWOOD STAR WHO HELPED TO BRING THE STORY TO THE BIG SCREEN. (♪♪♪)>>Reporter: ANGELINA JOLIE ON THE RED CARPET IS THE KIND OF STAR POWER THAT FESTIVALS DREAM OF, BUT TODAY SHE IS LEVERAGING HER CELEBRITY, WALKING THE RED CARP WET HER CHILDREN TO SUPPORT A CHILD’S TALE FAR REMOVED FROM THE GLITZ AND GLAM. “THE BREADWINNER” IS ABOUT A FAMILY UNDER THE HEEL OF THE TALIBAN.>>WHERE IS HE BEING TAKEN?>>TO PRISON.>>Reporter: BUT THIS STORY STARTED IN SIMCOE, ONTARIO. THIS QUIET LIBRARY IS WHERE DEBRA ELLIS GETS HER WRITING DONE. ELLIS WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE TREATMENT OF WOMEN IN AFGHANISTAN.>>Interview: I’M NOT A GOOD FUNDRAISER BUT I THOUGHT IF I COULD GO OVER THERE AND COLLECT SOME OF THEIR STORIES AND FIND OUT KIND OF WHO THEY ARE, HOW THEY DEALT WITH ALL OF THIS, WHAT THEY WERE LIVING THROUGH, HOW THEY WERE REACTING TO IT, THAT THAT MIGHT BE USEFUL.>>Reporter: DURING HER INTERVIEWS WITH WOMEN IN REFUGEE CAMPS, ELLIS HEARD STORIES OF GIRLS DISGUISES THEMSELVES AS BOYS TO SUPPORT THEIR FAMILIES. ELLIS WEAVED THOSE FAMILIES INTO “BREADWINNER’S” HERO.>>Interview: IT’S ME, SEE?>>Reporter: TODAY “THE BREED BREADWINNER” HAS DONATED ALL OF ITS ROYALS TO HELP WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN AFGHANISTAN. THE CANADIAN ACTOR WHO VOICES HER, MEETS THE AUTHOR YEARS AGO AT A SCHOOL READING.>>Interview: I ACTUALLY ASKED HER AND I WAS LIKE, HEY, IS THERE GOING TO BE A MOVIE FOR “THE BREADWINNER” AND SHE SAID, WELL, IT’S STILL IN THE WORKS AND THEN SOME TIME AFTER I GOT A CALL FROM MY AGENT AND HE WAS LIKE, SO THERE’S THIS AUDITION FOR “THE BREADWINNER” AND I WAS LIKE REALLY? WHAT!>>Reporter: THE FELLOW CAST MEMBER GREW UP IN AFGHANISTAN WITH THE SAME RUSTED TANKS THAT THE CARTOON CAPTURES.>>Interview: “THE BREADWINNER” DOES NOT EXPRESS A POLITICAL OPINION, IT’S JUST THE STORY OF ONE HUMAN BEING AND HER FAMILY.>>Reporter: BUT FOR ACTIVISTS AND EXECUTIVE PRODUCER ANGELINA JOLIE THE WORLD IS FILLED WITH HER.>>Interview: HER STORY IS SO POWERFUL BECAUSE IT RINGS TRUE FOR THE SITUATION OF FAMILIES WHEREVER THERE’S CONFLICT OR POVERTY OR ADVERSITY.>>Reporter: THE TALE OF PERSISTENCE HITS THEATRES THIS FALL. ELI GLASNER, CBC NEWS, TORONTO.>>Wendy: BEFORE WE GO, HERE’S ANOTHER LOOK AT OUR TOP STORIES…>>>IRMA IS NOW A TROPICAL STORM, LEAVING FLORIDA AND HEADED NORTH ACROSS THE UNITED STATES. BUT IT DROPPED A LOT OF WATER ON ITS WAY OUT. THE STORM LEFT MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WITHOUT POWER, SUPPLIES LIKE GASOLINE ARE SCARCE.>>>MEANWHILE THE ISLANDS HIT HARD BY IRMA ARE STRUGGLING. FRENCH TROOPS HAVE LANDED IN ST. MAARTEN AND PROVIDING WATER AND RELIEF SUPPLIES AND AMID REPORTS OF LOOTING THEY’RE ALSO KEEPING THE PEACE. MANY TOURISTS AND LOCALS ARE STILL WAITING FOR FLIGHTS TO GET OFF THE ISLAND. HUNDREDS OF CANADIANS ARE LANDING IN TORONTO TONIGHT.>>>AND THAT’S “THE NATIONAL” FOR THIS MONDAY NIGHT. FOR NEWS AT ANY HOUR YOU CAN ALWAYS GO TO cbcnews.ca. I’M WENDY MESLEY. THANKS FOR WATCHING. (♪♪♪)

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