The National for Monday May 22, 2017


(♪♪♪)>>Carole: GOOD EVENING, I’M CAROLE MacNEIL AND THIS IS “THE NATIONAL.”>>>A DOUBLE DIGIT DEATH TOLL IN MANCHESTER AFTER AN EXPLOSION AT A CONCERT.>>Interview: A BIG WOOSH AND THEN A WOOSH OF AIR AND WENT WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?>>Carole: POLICE TREAT IT AS A TERRORIST INCIDENT. (♪♪♪)>>Carole: THERE’S BEEN A DEADLY EXPLOSION IN MANCHESTER, ENGLAND, TONIGHT, JUST OUTSIDE OF A POP CONCERT. PRIME MINISTER THERESA MAY SAYS THAT THE BLAST IS TREATED AS AN APPALLING TERRORIST ATTACK. AND AT LEAST 19 PEOPLE ARE CONFIRMED DEAD, 50 OTHERS HAVE BEEN WOUNDED. AMERICAN SINGER ARIANA GRANDE HAD JUST FINISHED PERFORMING AT THE ARENA PACKED WITH TEENAGERS. A LOUD BANG WAS HEARD AND THEN THIS… [SCREAMS] THE EXPLOSION COULD ALSO BE HEARD FROM A DISTANCE. [LOUD BANG] EYEWITNESSES DESCRIBE A SCENE OF PANIC.>>Interview: AS I WAS WAITING THE EXPLOSION WENT OFF AND IT THREW ME THROUGH THE FIRST SET OF DOORS, TO THE NEXT SET OF DOORS. WHEN I GOT UP AND LOOKED AROUND THERE WERE ABOUT 30 PEOPLE SCATTERED EVERYWHERE. SOME OF THEM LOOKED TO BE UNCONSCIOUS BUT THERE WERE A LOT OF FATALITIES. [SCREAMS]>>Interview: IT WAS ABSOLUTELY HECTIC AND IT WAS UNREAL AND IT WAS SOMETHING WITH EVERYONE CHARGING TOWARDS THE DOORS. [SCREAMS]>>Interview: THERE WERE SHOES ON THE FLOOR WHERE PEOPLE HA RAN AND THE SHOES HAD FALLEN OFF. SO IT WAS ABSOLUTELY AWFUL.>>Carole: AMBULANCES AND EMERGENCY VEHICLES RACED TO THE SCENE. A NEARBY TRAIN STATION WAS EVACUATED. EYEWITNESSES SAY THAT THE EXPLOSION OCCURRED OUTSIDE OF THE ARENA NEAR THE BOX OFFICE. THIS STORY IS DEVELOPING RAPIDLY AND THOMAS DAIGLE IS IN LONDON WITH THE LATEST DETAILS. THOMAS?>>Reporter: CAROLE, THERE’S NO CONFIRMATION FROM POLICE AS TO THE SOURCE OF THIS EXPLOSION AND NO CONFIRMATION OF THE U.S. MEDIA REPORTS TONIGHT THAT THIS WAS CARRIED OUT BY A SUICIDE BOMBER. THOUGH I SHOULD MENTION THAT WITNESSES REPORT SEEING NUTS AND BOLTS SCATTERED ON THE GROUND WHICH WOULD CERTAINLY BE A HALLMARK OF A HOMEMADE BOMB, PERHAPS. POLICE STILL HAVE A LARGE PERIMETER CORDONED OFF AROUND MANCHESTER ARENA THOUGH IT DOESN’T LOOK LIKE THEY’RE LOOKING FOR A SUSPECT THOUGH IF THEY ARE THEY HAVE NOT INDICATED SO. POLICE CARRIED OUT A CONTROLLED DETONATION TONIGHT, THINKING THAT THEY HAD FOUND A SECOND SUSPECT DEVICE, BUT IT TURNED OUT TO JUST BE A PILE OF ABANDONED CLOTHING. THE MANCHESTER ARENA HAS PUT OUT A STATEMENT CONFIRMING THE ORIGINAL EXPLOSION OCCURRED OUTSIDE OF THE VENUE IN WHAT THEY DESCRIBE AS A PUBLIC AREA, BELIEVED TO BE NEAR THE BOX OFFICE. HERE’S WHAT WE’RE HEARING FROM ONE WITNESS TONIGHT…>>Interview: WE WERE SORT OF IN THE FOYER WHERE THE MERCHANDISE WERE JUST OUTSIDE OF THE ARENA DOORS. AND [indiscernible] AND PEOPLE STARTED STREAMING OUT AND NEXT THING IS A BIG FLUSH. A BIG FLUSH AND THEN A WOOSH OF AIR AND WE THOUGHT WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT? AND THEN THE SMELL IN THE AIR AND THEN SORT OF LOOKED BACK WHERE THE EXPLOSION — WHERE PEOPLE LAID DOWN ON THE FLOOR.>>Carole: EXCUSE ME, THOMAS, I’LL LEAVE IT THERE FOR YOU AND I WANT TO BRING OUR AUDIENCE LIVE TO MANCHESTER AND LISTEN TO MANCHESTER POLICE WITH A LIVE UPDATE. THAT’S CHIEF CONSTABLE IAN HOPKINS, LET’S LISTEN IN.>>Interview: WE’RE DEALING WITH THE INCIDENT AT THAT LOCATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.>>Question: HAVE THERE BEEN ANY ARRESTS?>>Carole: I APOLOGIZE, I APOLOGIZE, WE HAVE DIPPED INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT LATE AND WE’LL HAVE DETAILS ON WHAT HE HAD TO SAY IN JUST A MOMENT AND LET’S BRING THOMAS BACK TO FINISH YOUR REPORT AND THE LATEST ON WHAT WE KNOW. WE JUST HEARD FROM AN EYEWITNESS, THAT CLIP THAT YOU HAD AN EYEWITNESS DESCRIBING THE HORRIFIC SCENE IN MANCHESTER TONIGHT.>>Reporter: YEAH, THE BRITISH PRIME MINISTER THERESA MAY HAS CALLED THIS AN APPALLING TERRORIST ATTACK AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT SHE’S ACTUALLY SUSPENDED HER CAMPAIGN AHEAD OF THE GENERAL ELECTION HERE. NO GROUP HAS CLAIMED RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS ATTACK, THOUGH ISIS ACCOUNTS ONLINE ARE SAID TO BE CELEBRATING THIS ATTACK IN MOON CHESTER AND WITH THE NATURE OF — MANCHESTER AND WITH THE NATURE OF THIS CONCERT, WITH POP STAR ARIANA GRANDE MOST CONCERT-GOERS WERE YOUNG, TEENAGERS AND MOST LIKELY THERE WITHOUT PARENTS AND MORE THAN 50 UNACCOMPANIED KIDS ARE SAID TO BE TOGETHER AT A HOTEL TONIGHT AND BEING CARED FOR AND STAFF ARE TAKING CARE OF THEM AND YOU CAN IMAGINE THE FEAR FROM PARENTS WHO ARE JUST ON THE WAY TO PICK UP THEIR KIDS AT THIS CONCERT WHEN THEY HEARD THIS HORRIBLE NEWS TONIGHT, CAROLE.>>Carole: ALL RIGHT, THOMAS, THANK YOU SO MUCH.>>>TONIGHT THE CANADIAN PUBLIC SAFETY MINISTER TWEETED THIS… RALPH GOODALE WROTE… AND STEPHANIE CARBON IS A TERRORISM EXPERT AT CARLETON UNIVERSITY AND SHE’S JOINING US FROM OUR BUREAU IN OTTAWA TONIGHT. STEPHANIE, ANY DOUBT IN YOUR MIND THAT THIS WAS A TERRORIST ATTACK?>>Interview: WELL, I THINK THAT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT WE CAN DO AT THIS POINT IS TO KEEP AN OPEN MIND. CERTAINLY, AS YOU KNOW, WHEN I WORKED AS A TERRORISM ANALYST, YOU WANTED TO KEEP ALL OPTIONS OPEN AND YOU DIDN’T WANT TO DISCOUNT ANY POSSIBILITIES TAKING PLACE. AND IT SEEMS TO BE THAT WAY AND THE U.K. POLICE HAVE, IN FACT, SAID THAT THEY’RE TREATING THIS AS A TERRORISM INCIDENT AND I AM ACTUALLY STRUCK BY THE FACT THAT RALPH GOODALE HAS DESCRIBED THESE AS ATTACKS WHICH MEANS THAT HE MAY HAVE BEEN BRIEFED TO SUGGEST THAT, IN FACT, THESE ARE TERRORISM ATTACKS. BUT AS FOR THE KNOWLEDGE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TO KEEP AN OPEN MIND AND TO BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL IN TERMS OF ASSESSING WHAT THE SITUATION ACTUALLY IS UNTIL WE HAVE SOME KIND OF OFFICIAL CONFIRMATION.>>Carole: WHAT HALLMARKS HAVE YOU SEEN SO FAR?>>Interview: WELL, BASED ON REPORTS, I MEAN, THERE’S REPORTS, AGAIN, THAT WERE MENTIONED IN THE PRIOR SEGMENT THAT THERE ARE — THAT THIS MAY HAVE BEEN A SUICIDE ATTACK AND WE DON’T KNOW THAT YET BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS DOES SEEM TO BE — THERE DOES SEEM TO BE A COINCIDENCE THAT AN EXPLOSION TOOK PLACE AT A TIME WHEN, FOR EXAMPLE, THE CONCERT, A CONCERT WAS ENDING WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD HAVE BEEN EXITING SO THE TIMING IS VERY SUSPICIOUS.>>Carole: AND, STEPHANIE, WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT WE’RE HEARING AND WHAT OUR REPORTERS ARE SEEING ONLINE THAT THERE’S SOME CELEBRATION ON THE PART OF ISIS ON THIS ATTACK, WHEN IT COMES TO THE U.K. YOU CAN’T ASSUME THAT THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE.>>Reporter: THAT’S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. IN THE FIRST INSTANCE, OF COURSE, THE ISLAMIC STATE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT A-TYPICAL OF THEIR BEHAVIOUR AND THEY RELISH THE FACT THAT PEOPLE HAVE DIED OR, YOU KNOW, THEY CELEBRATE WHEN THESE KIND OF HORRIBLE INCIDENTS HAPPEN WITHOUT ANY KNOWLEDGE OF WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS ONE OF THEIR OPERATIVES OR THIS WAS SOMEONE ACTUALLY INSPIRED BY THEM. BUT I REMIND YOUR VIEWERS THAT LAST YEAR THERE WAS, IN FACT, AN ASSASSINATION IN THE U.K. OF AN M.P., JO COX, WHO WAS ASSASSINATED BY SOMEONE WHO APPEARS TO HAVE ADHERED TO THE ALT RIGHT IDEOLOGY SO WE CAN’T, YOU KNOW, SAY AUTOMATICALLY WHO HAS, IN FACT, CONDUCTED THIS ATTACK BECAUSE WE HAVE SEEN EXTREMISM RISE IN THE U.K. FROM NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, THOSE GROUPS INSPIRED BY ISIS BUT ALSO FROM THE FAR RIGHT AS WELL.>>Carole: IF IT WAS A SUICIDE BOMBER OR A PLANTED BOMB, STEPHANIE, THAT WOULD HAVE TAKEN A GREAT DEAL OF PLANNING AND WHAT WOULD IT SAY ABOUT INTELLIGENCE SERVICES OR THE FACT THEY WERE ABLE TO GET PAST SECURITY?>>Interview: WELL, IT DOESN’T SEEM THEY WERE NECESSARILY ABLE TO GET PAST SECURITY. NORMALLY WHEN THESE INCIDENTS OCCUR WE HEAR ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS SHOULD WE BE HARDENING TARGETS? WELL, THE STADIUM WAS PROBABLY A HARDENED TARGET AND THERE WAS PROBABLY A LOT OF SECURITY THAT WAS TAKING PLACE IN THE STADIUM. SO, YOU KNOW, IF THE REPORTS ARE TRUE THAT THIS TOOK PLACE OUTSIDE OF THE STADIUM, IT JUST GOES TO SHOW YOU THAT THESE GROUPS OR THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE ACTUALLY OPPORTUNISTIC IN SELECTING THEIR TARGETS. IF THEY CAN’T GET IN ONE THEY’LL SELECT ANOTHER.>>Carole: IN THIS CASE THOUGH, IT APPEARS THAT IT HAPPENED NEAR THE BOX OFFICE. SO IT WAS MAXIMUM IMPACT FOR ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE GATHERING TO LEAVE.>>Interview: RIGHT. SO, IN OTHER WORDS, IF THIS WAS A TERRORISM ATTACK, THIS PERSON SEEMS TO HAVE KNOWN THAT THERE WAS A CONCERT TAKING PLACE AND THEY SEEM TO HAVE KNOWN WHEN THE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE BEEN EXITING AND THEY SEEM TO HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PICK A LOCATION THAT WAS VERY STRATEGIC AND THEY WOULDN’T HAVE NECESSARILY GONE THROUGH SECURITY BUT THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN A LOT OF PEOPLE MINGLING IN THAT AREA AT THAT TIME.>>Carole: WHAT WOULD YOU BE WATCHING FOR GOING FORWARD, STEPHANIE?>>Interview: WELL, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS AN ANALYST, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE YEARS AGO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN THESE SITUATIONS IS A LOT OF DIFFERENT PARTS ARE MOVING AT THE SAME TIME AND YOU HAVE A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION AND YOU HAVE A CRIME SCENE AND YOU’RE TRYING TO LOOK AFTER THE VICTIMS AND YOU’RE ALSO COMBING YOUR INTELLIGENCE TO TRY AND SEE WHO MAY BE RESPONSIBLE. AND I THINK THAT WHAT IS GOING TO BE TELLING IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF HOURS IS, YOU KNOW, IF A SUSPECT IS IDENTIFIED THAT THEY’RE GOING TO BE TRYING TO SEE IF THIS WAS A PERSON WHO ACTUALLY ACTED ALONE OR IF THIS IS ACTUALLY A PART OF A CELL. AND AS YOU MENTIONED EARLIER THIS WAS, YOU KNOW, A — YOU KNOW, IF THIS WAS A BOMB THAT HAS GONE OFF, THESE DEVICES ARE NOT EASY TO CONSTRUCT. THIS IS NOT A CASE WHERE WE SAW LAST MONTH WHERE AN INDIVIDUAL DROVE A CAR INTO PEOPLE, THAT WAS A VERY UNSOPHISTICATED ATTACK. AND TO ACTUALLY PUT A BOMB TOGETHER OF THIS NATURE IS HARD TO DO. SO IT WILL BE INTERESTING IN KNOWING HOW THIS PERSON, AGAIN, IF IT IS A BOMB, WAS ABLE TO ACTUALLY PUT A DEVICE TOGETHER AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, EXECUTE IT BECAUSE IF THERE’S A SUPPORTING GROUP AROUND THIS PERSON YOU WOULD DEFINITELY WANT TO IDENTIFY WHO THOSE PEOPLE ARE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE AND MAKE SOME ARRESTS.>>Carole: ALL RIGHT, WE KNOW THAT THE MANCHESTER POLICE SAY THAT — SAID A WHILE AGO THEY’RE WORKING WITH THE NATIONAL POLICE AND THE INTELLIGENT AGENCIES TO INVESTIGATE THIS CONCERT EXPLOSION. THESE ARE QUESTIONS THAT ARE DEFINITELY GOING TO WANT ANSWERED. STEPHANIE, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US ON THIS ISSUE TONIGHT.>>Interview: THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME ON.>>Carole: ANOTHER HEARTBREAKING ANGLE THAT IS PLAYING OUT. IN THE MIDST OF THE CHAOS SOME PEOPLE COULD NOT FIND OR REACH THEIR MISSING CHILDREN SO THEY HAVE TURNED TO TWITTER. POSTING PHOTOS AND BEGGING ANYONE WITH INFORMATION ABOUT THEM TO GET IN TOUCH. THEY’RE ASKING ANYONE TO RETWEET THE PHOTOS IN THE HOPES THAT SOMEONE WOULD SEE THEM. SOMEONE POSTED THAT A WOMAN HAD GATHERED ABOUT 50 CHILDREN WITH HER AND SHE WAS LOOKING AFTER THEM AND DOZENS WERE TAKE TONE A NEARBY HOTEL AND SOME HAVE FOUND THEIR LOVED ONES, CREDITING THE HELP OF TWITTER.>>WE’RE GOING BACK TO THE EXPLOSION IN MANCHESTER, ENGLAND, WHERE 19 PEOPLE WERE KILLED AND WE REACHED A YOUNG CONCERT-GOER — THE PHONE WHO TRAVELLED TO THE CITY FOR THE ARIANA GRANDE SHOW. 22-YEAR-OLD JESS KELLY IS JOINING ME NOW VIA SKYPE. JESS, WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THE EXPLOSION HAPPENED?>>Interview: WE WERE RIGHT JUST ABOVE WHERE IT HAPPENED, REALLY. AND WE WERE GO TO GO TO THE CONCESSION AREA WHERE IT HAPPENED AND WE HEARD THE EXPLOSION AND EVERYBODY TURNED TO THE LEFT, SCREAMED AND STARTED RUNNING. SO ME AND MY FRIEND WHO I WAS WITH, WE JUST WENT BACK TO THE STAGE AREA, THE MAIN CONCERT AREA. AND AND TRIED TO GET AWAY FROM THE MASS OF PEOPLE STAMPEDING OUT.>>Carole: WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION WHEN YOU HEARD THE EXPLOSION AND YOU SAW THE AFTERMATH?>>Interview: WELL WE INSTANTLY SAW THAT IT WAS A BOMB AND I KNOW THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE AROUND US DID AND WE THOUGHT THIS IS IT, REALLY AND WE’LL PROBABLY DIE AND IT WAS REALLY SCARY.>>Carole: WHY DID YOU THINK THAT IT WAS A BOMB?>>Interview: JUST BECAUSE I’VE NEVER HEARD ANYTHING SO LOUD BEFORE AND ACTUALLY WHEN WE LEFT, WHEN WE ACTUALLY WENT OUT, YOU COULD HEAR — YOU COULD SMELL THE GUNPOWDER AND THRFSZ NO DOUBT IN OUR MIND, IT WAS A BOMB.>>Carole: WHAT DID YOU SEE?>>Interview: WE JUST SAW THE MASSES OF PEOPLE STAMPEDING AND WE WERE TWO OF THE LAST PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY LEAVE BECAUSE WE LINGERED IN A SAFE AREA FOR A WHILE AND AS SOON AS WE LEFT WE SAW POLICE EVERYWHERE AND AMBULANCES AND PEOPLE JUST LIED AROUND BLEEDING AND IT WAS REALLY, REALLY BAD.>>Carole: YEAH. NOW WE’RE HEARING FROM THE PRIME MINISTER AND ALSO FROM THE POLICE THAT IT WAS, IN FACT, IN THEIR MIND — THEY’RE TREATING THIS AS A TERRORIST ATTACK. A TERRORIST INCIDENT. WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT?>>Interview: YEAH, I MEAN, LIKE MY FIRST REACTION WAS THAT IT WAS A TERRORIST ATTACK. SO I DO BELIEVE THAT IT’S TRUE. IT JUST SEEMS TOO RANDOM TO HAVE HAPPENED ACCIDENTALLY AND IT HAPPENED EXACTLY RIGHT WHEN THE CONCERT ENDED, WHEN EVERYONE WAS LEAVING AND EVERYONE WAS CROWDED INTO A SMALL AREA TRYING TO GET OUT THE DOORS. IT DIDN’T SEEM LIKE AN ACCIDENT.>>Carole: RIGHT. AND THE POLICE, HOW — DESCRIBE HOW THE POLICE WERE MOVING IN AND TRYING TO GET CONTROL OF THE STAMPEDE THAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED.>>Interview: SO IT ACTUALLY TOOK QUITE A WHILE FOR THEM TO GET THERE AND MAYBE FIVE, 10 MINUTES, AND THEY DIDN’T START ARRIVING UNTIL WE WERE LEAVING AND LIKE I SAID WE WERE TWO OF THE LAST PEOPLE OUT. SO, YEAH, I MEAN, THERE WERE STILL HELICOPTERS AND POLICE EVERYWHERE AND RIGHT NOW I CAN HEAR IT HOURS LATER SO, YEAH, IT DID TAKE THEM A WHILE BUT I THINK THAT ONCE THEY GOT THERE THEY TRIED TO GET IT UNDER CONTROL BUT LIKE MOST PEOPLE HAD LEFT, SO, YEAH.>>Carole: JESS, HOW ARE YOU DOING NOW?>>Interview: ME AND MY FRIEND, WE’RE STILL VERY SHOOK UP AND WE FEEL — WE DON’T FEEL GREAT. AND AFTER LEARNING THAT 19 PEOPLE HAVE DIED IT’S JUST — IT’S REALLY SAD AND HARD TO BELIEVE THAT WE WERE IN THERE WHEN IT HAPPENED.>>Carole: ALL RIGHT, WELL, WE’LL LEAVE IT THERE FOR YOU AND THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH US AND CANADA THIS EVENING AND I WISH YOU THE VERY BEST GOING FORWARD AS WE DO ALL OF THE PEOPLE IN MANCHESTER IN DEALING WITH THIS.>>Interview: THANK YOU.>>Carole: OKAY. WE’RE FOLLOWING THE LATEST DEVELOPMENTS ON WHAT POLICE CALL A TERRORIST INCIDENT IN MANCHESTER, ENGLAND. SARAH GALASHAN IS JOINING ME NOW WITH THE LATEST WITNESS REACTION. SARAH?>>Reporter: CAROLE, THIS WAS A PACKED ARENA, AN ARENA IN MANCHESTER THAT COULD HOLD MORE THAN 20,000 CONCERT-GOERS AND FROM THE PICTURES THAT WE’RE SEEING AS PEOPLE WERE EXITING IT DOES APPEAR THAT THIS WAS A PACKED CONCERT, FULL OF YOUNG GIRLS FROM THE PICTURES THAT WE CAN SEE AND GIVEN THAT IT WAS AN ARIANA GRANDE CONCERT THAT MAKES SENSE. A POP STAR VERY POPULAR WITH YOUNG TEENAGED GIRLS AND FROM SOME OF THE WITNESSES THAT WE HAVE HEARD THESE WERE SOME YOUNG CONCERT-GOERS GOING TO THE CONCERT FOR THE FIRST TIME. PARENTS DROPPING THEM OFF. AND THEN HOPING TO PICK THEM UP AT THE END OF THE NIGHT. OR THE GIRLS WOULD HAVE THEN BEEN EXITING TO PERHAPS TAKE TRANSIT HOME. MANY PROBLEMS TO THIS IN THAT THERE’S NOW A HUGE SECURITY PERIMETER AROUND THAT ARENA. AND PARENTS BEING TOLD TO STAY AS FAR BACK AS POSSIBLE AND TRANSIT, OF COURSE, NOT WORKING. IT HAS BEEN SHUT DOWN. WE HAVE HEARD FROM WITNESSES ABOUT THE FACT THAT THEY COULD HEAR AND ALMOST FEEL THIS EXPLOSION AS THEY DESCRIBE IT AND THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO WERE INSIDE OF THAT ARENA. THE ARENA CONFIRMING THAT THE INCIDENT TOOK PLACE OUTSIDE OF THE ACTUAL FACILITY, SO PERHAPS THAT SPEAKS TO JUST HOW STRONG AN EXPLOSION IT WAS. BUT I WANT TO PLAY YOU A CLIP FROM A COUPLE OF PEOPLE WHO WERE INSIDE AT THE TIME.>>Interview: THERE WAS SMOKE COMING LIKE THROUGH THE STEPS AND EVERYONE WAS SCREAMING AND TELLING EVERYONE THAT IT COULD BE A BOMB. PEOPLE WERE SHOUTING TO THEIR KIDS.>>Interview: AND EVERYONE JUST STARTED RUNNING AND EVERYBODY WAS TRYING TO PUSH PEOPLE UP THE STAIRS AND THERE WAS A LADY IN A WHEELCHAIR TRYING TO GET AWAY AND SHE WAS ABSOLUTELY HYSTERICAL, AND PEOPLE WERE JUST PUSHING PAST HER SO I HELD THEM BACK WHILE SHE ACTUALLY GOT OUT OF THE STAIRWELL AND THE PERSON WITH HER WERE SAFE. THE PROBLEM IS THAT A LOT OF CHILDREN WERE THERE WITHOUT PARENTS AND THERE WAS NO ONE THERE TO CALM THEM DOWN.>>Reporter: A CHAOTIC SCENE, REGARDLESS, FOR ANYONE WHO WOULD HAVE BEEN INVOLVED THERE BUT THEN PARTICULARLY PERHAPS FOR YOUNG CONCERT-GOERS WHO MIGHT HAVE BEEN ATTENDING WITHOUT THEIR PARENTS AS I SAY. AND THEN IMAGINE, OF COURSE, THEY HAVE TO EXIT THIS FACILITY AND MAKE THEIR WAY HOME WITH NO TRANSIT OPERATING AND UNABLE TO MEET UP WITH THE PERSON PERHAPS WHO WAS THERE TO GIVE THEM A RIDE HOME. SO FROM WE HAVE HEARD OF HOTELS OPENING UP THEIR DOORS TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN STRANDED, COULDN’T MAKE IT HOME ON THEIR OWN. INDIVIDUALS OPENING UP THEIR DOORS AND GOING ON TWITTER AND ADVERTISING THEY HAVE A PLACE FOR SOMEONE TO SLEEP AND TAXIS PICKING UP STRANDED CONCERT-GOERS WHO ARE CONFUSED AND PERHAPS QUITE YOUNG. AND TO THAT END, AND YOU HAVE TOUCHED ON THIS, THERE ARE THOSE PARENTS WHO HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THEIR LOVED ONES WHO WERE AT THAT CONCERT AND THEY HAVE BEEN POSTING THEIR PICTURES ONLINE IN HOPES THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET IN TOUCH. THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE MANY WAYS THAT PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THEIR LOVED ONES AT THAT AREA IN THE ARIANA GRANDE CONCERT ARE SAFE, CAROLE.>>Carole: AND MEANWHILE THE POLICE ARE TREATING THIS AS A TERRORIST INCIDENT AND LOOKING THROUGH THEIR INTEL AND WORKING WITH ALL OF THE POLICE NATIONALLY AND TRYING TO FIND OUT WHO IS BEHIND THIS AND WHAT HAPPENED. SARAH GALASHAN, THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE’RE GOING TO KEEP FOLLOWING THE MANCHESTER STORY AND BRING YOU THE LATEST INFORMATION AS WE GET IT. RIGHT NOW, FOR NOW, WE WILL TURN TO OTHER NEWS.>>>DONALD TRUMP IS IN JERUSALEM TONIGHT AND HALF A WORLD AWAY FROM WASHINGTON, BUT NOT FAR ENOUGH TO ESCAPE THE POLITICAL HEAT ON HIS ADMINISTRATION. THERE’S A NEW REPORT THIS EVENING OF INTERFERENCE BY THE U.S. PRESIDENT IN THE ONGOING RUSSIA INVESTIGATION. JUST ONE DEVELOPMENT IN A DAY FULL OF DEEPENING INTRIGUE ON CAPITOL HILL AND BEYOND. ELLEN MAURO HAS THOSE DETAILS.>>Interview: THE F.B.I. IS INVESTIGATING THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT’S EFFORTS TO INTERFERE IN THE 2016 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.>>Reporter: THIS WAS JAMES COMEY BACK IN MARCH. ABOUT TO DELIVER A LINE THAT WOULD SHAKE THE WHITE HOUSE. CONFIRMING THAT THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN WAS ALSO PART OF THAT INVESTIGATION FOR POSSIBLE COLLUSION WITH RUSSIA.>>Interview: AS WITH ANY COUNTERINTELLIGENCE INVESTIGATION, THIS WILL ALSO INCLUDE AN ASSESSMENT OF WHETHER ANY CRIMES WERE COMMITTED.>>Reporter: ACCORDING TO A NEW REPORT FROM THE “WASHINGTON POST”, PRESIDENT TRUMP APPEALED TO TWO TOP INTELLIGENCE OFFICIALS. THE DIRECTORS OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE AND THE NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY FOLLOWING COMEY’S TESTIMONY. ASKING THEM TO PUBLICLY DENY THE EXISTENCE OF ANY EVIDENCE OF COLLUSION. THE STORY CITING ANONYMOUS OFFICIALS SAYS THAT BOTH DANIEL COATES AND ADMIRAL MICHAEL ROGERS REFUSED TO COMPLY, FINDING TRUMP’S REQUESTS INAPPROPRIATE. THERE’S REPORTEDLY AT LEAST ONE MEMO DOCUMENTING TRUMP’S CONVERSATIONS WHICH COULD EVENTUALLY FIND ITS WAY TO ROBERT MUELLER, THE SPECIAL COUNCIL NOW LEADING THE RUSSIA INVESTIGATION. THE LATEST REVELATION COMES AFTER MORE THAN A WEEK OF UPHEAVAL FOLLOWING TRUMP’S FIRING OF COMEY, PROMPTING DEEPENING SUSPICIONS ABOUT THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN, ITS POSSIBLE TIES TO RUSSIA AND GROWING ACCUSATIONS TRUMP TRIED TO INFLUENCE THE PROBE. ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT TODAY, MICHAEL FLYNN, TRUMP’S FORMER NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR, USED HIS FIFTH AMENDMENT RIGHT AGAINST SELF-INCRIMINATION AND REJECTING A SUBPOENA FROM A SENATE COMMITTEE INVESTIGATING RUSSIAN ELECTION MEDDLING AND REFUSING TO HAND OVER DOCUMENTS RELATING TO HIS RUSSIA CONTACTS.>>Interview: CONGRESS HAS A REMEDY, CONGRESS CAN GET THE DOCUMENTS AND CONGRESS CAN GET HIS TESTIMONY BUT THEY WILL HAVE TO GIVE HIM IMMUNIVITY.>>Reporter: THAT COULD CONFLICT WITH MUELLER’S CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION. FLYNN IS LIKELY TO BE A MAIN TARGET. ON TOP OF ALL OF THAT, EARLIER TODAY TRUMP HIMSELF SEEMED TO CONFIRM REPORTS THAT HE LEAKED CLASSIFIED INFORMATION TO RUSSIAN OFFICIALS IN THE OVAL OFFICE LAST WEEK. NOT DENYING HE DID IT, JUST SAYING THAT HE DIDN’T REVEAL ISRAEL AS THE SOURCE.>>President Donald Trump: I NEVER MENTIONED THE WORD OR THE NAME “ISRAEL”, NEVER MENTIONED IT IN OUR CONVERSATIONS.>>Reporter: MICHAEL FLYNN COULD BE HELD IN CONTEMPT OF CONGRESS FOR REFUSING TO HAND OVER HIS DOCUMENTS. HE’S ALSO FACING FRESHATIONS THAT HE LIED ABOUT HIS — FRESH ALLEGATIONS THAT HE LIED ABOUT HIS TIES WITH RUSSIA WHEN RENEWING HIS SECURITY CLEARANCE AND FURTHER LEGAL PROBLEMS FOR FLYNN WILL INEVITABLY MEAN MORE QUESTIONS FOR THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. ELLEN MAURO, CBC NEWS, WASHINGTON.>>Carole: DONALD TRUMP’S TRIP ABROAD HAS BEEN A WELCOME REPRIEVE FROM THE DRAMA AT HOME. OUR SUSAN ORMISTON IS IN JERUSALEM TONIGHT.>>Reporter: THE U.S. PRESIDENT BATHED IN A WARM WELCOME, SUCH A CONTRAST FROM BITTER FIGHTS AT HOME BUT IN TUM NEWFOUNDLAND’S 28 HOURS HERE — DONALD TRUMP HERE HE GOES INTO DEEP DIVIDES THAT DEMAND TOUGH CONCESSIONS AND MORE THAN HOPEFUL WORDS.>>President Donald Trump: WE HAVE BEFORE US A RARE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING SECURITY AND STABILITY AND PEACE TO THIS REGION AND TO ITS PEOPLE.>>Reporter: IN JERUSALEM THERE WAS ALMOST FEVERISH ENTHUSIASM AND AN IMPROMPTU GROUP TRYING TO DROWN OUT A VISITING CHRISTIAN FROM NEW YORK WHO CALLED TRUMP FUELEN AND WICKED.>>Interview: THERE’S NO PEACE FOR THE WICKED, MR. PRESIDENT.>>Reporter: UNDER A MASSIVE SECURITY NET WITH EYES IN THE SKY, 5,000 POLICE LOCKED DOWN PARTS OF JERUSALEM, INCLUDING THE OLD CITY. THE MOTORCADE SNAKED ALONG… [Cheers and Applause] AND CHEERS FROM JEWISH FAITHFUL WHO COULD THEY NEED A POWERFUL U.S. ALLY. TRUMP BEGAN A MISSION OF PERSUASION WITH A FAMILY VISIT TO THE WESTERN WALL, A DEEPLY HOLY SITE BUT STILL CONTESTED TERRITORY IN EAST JERUSALEM. FOR ISRAELIS THESE WERE THE IMAGES OF THE DAY.>>Interview: IT SHOWS US HOW MUCH HE LOVES US AND IT SHOWS THAT HE’S A TRUE FRIEND OF ISRAEL AND THE JEWISH PEOPLE.>>Reporter: BUT THE U.S.’ FORMER AMBASSADOR HAS LOWER EXPECTATIONS…>>Interview: I’M CAUTIOUS. I THINK THAT ALMOST EVERYBODY I KNOW WHO HAS WORKED ON THIS ISSUE AND MOST ISRAELIS AND PALESTINIANS THAT I KNOW SUGGEST THAT THE CONDITIONS ARE NOT RIGHT.>>Reporter: THROUGHOUT TWO STRONG THEMES — IN MEETINGS WITH THE ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER, TRUMP LASHED OUT AT IRAN’S AGGRESSIONS AND PRODDED BENJAMIN NETANYAHU TOWARDS POSSIBLE PEACE WITH THE PALESTINIANS.>>AND, MR. PRESIDENT, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFETIME, I SEE A REAL HOPE FOR CHANGE.>>President Donald Trump: I HAVE A FEELING THAT WE’RE GOING TO GET THERE EVENTUALLY, I HOPE.>>Reporter: DAY ONE, JERUSALEM. DAY TWO, BETHLEHEM. PRESIDENT TRUMP WILL CROSS OVER A SEPARATION BARRIER INTO THE WEST BANK TOMORROW TO TEST THE RESOLVE OF PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY PRESIDENT MAHMOUD ABBAS. HIS SUPPORTERS ARE ALREADY SUSPICIOUS OF TRUMP’S CLOSE TIES TO ISRAEL. SUSAN ORMISTON, CBC NEWS, JERUSALEM.>>Carole: A BIG PART OF TRUMP’S VISIT SO FAR HAS BEEN TRYING TO UNITE U.S. ALLIES IN THE MIDEAST. HE SAYS THAT MUSLIM NATIONS AND ISRAEL SHARE A COMMON CAUSE IN COUNTERING THE THREAT POSED BY IRAN.>>President Donald Trump: IRAN MUST NEVER BE ALLOWED TO POSSESS A NUCLEAR WEAPON, NEVER, EVER.>>Carole: A SHORT TIME LATER, IRAN’S PRESIDENT SAID THAT HIS COUNTRY’S WEAPONS WERE DEFENSIVE ONLY, BUT HE SAID THAT MISSILE TESTS WILL CONTINUE WHEN NECESSARY WITHOUT AMERICAN PERMISSION.>>>A DIPLOMATIC SPAT BETWEEN THE U.S. AND TURKEY ESCALATED TODAY. IT’S ALL OVER THIS… A BRAWL LAST WEEK DURING A VISIT TO WASHINGTON BY TURKEY’S PRESIDENT. TURKISH SECURITY PERSONNEL APPEARED TO ATTACK PROTESTERS OUTSIDE OF THE TURKISH EMBASSY. AS PRESIDENT RECEP TAYYIP ERDOGAN LOOKED ON. 11 PEOPLE WERE INJURED AND TWO TURKISH BODYGUARDS WERE BRIEFLY DETAINED. THE U.S. LATER SUMMONED THE TURKISH AMBASSADOR TO RAPE RAISE CONCERNS AND TODAY TODAY TURKEY SUMMONED THE U.S. AMBASSADOR. TURKEY IS PROTESTING WHAT THEY CALL AGGRESSIVE AND UNPROFESSIONAL ACTIONS BY AMERICAN AUTHORITIES AGAINST THE TURKISH SECURITY OFFICERS.>>>I WANT TO BRING YOU UP-TO-DATE ON THE SITUATION IN MANCHESTER, ENGLAND TONIGHT. THERE WAS ONE LARGE EXPLOSION AFTER A CONCERT AFTER AMERICAN SINGER ARIANA GRANDE. BRITISH POLICE SAY THAT AT LEAST 19 PEOPLE WERE KILLED, 50 INJURED. THEY SAY THAT THEY ARE TREATING IT AS A TERROR INCIDENT. AND THE BRITISH PRIME MINISTER CALLED FOR AN EMERGENCY SECURITY MEETING TOMORROW MORNING AND WE’RE CONTINUING TO WATCH THIS STORY AND WE’LL HAVE UPDATES FOR YOU THROUGHOUT THE HOUR. PLEASE STAY WITH “THE NATIONAL.” (♪♪♪)>>Carole: WE CONTINUE TO FOLLOW THE SITUATION IN MANCHESTER, ENGLAND, TONIGHT. POLICE GAVE AN UPDATE A LITTLE EARLIER AND THEY CONFIRMED WHAT WE HAD BEEN HEARING ALL EVENING, THAT AT LEAST 19 PEOPLE HAVE DIED AFTER AN EXPLOSION AT A POP CONCERT GIVEN BY AMERICAN SINGER ARIANA GRANDE EARLIER THIS EVENING IN MANCHESTER. AND 19 PEOPLE, THAT IS THE DEATH TOLL SO FAR, AND 50 PEOPLE INJURED. I’M JOINED NOW BY CHRISTIAN LUPRECHT, A SECURITY EXPERT WITH THE ROYAL COLLEGE OF CANADA AND QUEENS UNIVERSITY. CHRISTIAN, WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF WHAT YOU SAW TONIGHT?>>Interview: WELL, OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS TRAGIC, BUT I THINK THAT IT’S SOMETHING THAT BRITISH AUTHORITIES APPEAR TO HAVE BEEN PREPARED FOR, GIVEN THAT THE RESPONSE AT THAT LATE AN HOUR, THAT THEY HAD. IT APPEARS ALSO THAT THE SOFT TARGETS ARE BECOMING, UNFORTUNATELY, MUCH MORE TARGET WITH THE MALFEASANCE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE NICE ATTACK AND THE CHRISTMAS MARKET ATTACK IN BERLIN. IT’S PERHAPS ALSO THEN SUGGESTS THAT WE HAVE DONE A VERY GOOD JOB AT MAKING IT TOUGHER TO ATTACK THE HARD TARGETS AND THE POLITICAL TARGETS AND THE SYMBOLS OF THE STATE, AND SO AS A RESULT PEOPLE ARE, I GUESS, LOOKING FOR SOFTER TARGETS TO MAKE THEIR MESSAGE KNOWN. THIS APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN TIMED FOR MAXIMUM CARNAGE, AND PROBABLY A REMOTE-CONTROL DEVICE WITH SHRAPNEL BUT IT APPEARS THAT THE AUTHORITIES WERE PREPARED. THEY HAD A POTENTIAL SECONDARY DEVICE AND THEY WERE ABLE TO DIFFUSE THAT PARTICULAR DEVICE AND THAT POTENTIALITY OF THAT PARTICULAR DEVICE, AND THEY ALSO APPEAR TO BE RUNNING A VERY EFFECTIVE –>>Carole: CHRISTIAN, IF YOU DON’T MIND I’D LIKE TO INTERRUPT AND BREAK DOWN A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT YOU’RE SAYING AND LET’S BEGIN WITH THE FACT OF THESE SOFT TARGETS. DEFINE WHAT YOU MEAN BY “SOFT TARGET” AND HOW WE’RE SEEING MORE OF THIS.>>Interview: RIGHT, SO BY SOFT TARGETS, I MEAN THAT IT’S — SO THESE ARE TARGETS THAT ARE NOT VERY CLASSIC, SO PARLIAMENT OR INSTITUTIONS OF STATE OR MAJOR POLICE OR MILITARY ENTITIES AND SO ESSENTIALLY OTHER ENTITIES THAT ARE MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TO PROTECT WHERE YOU HAVE — WHERE IT’S MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TO DO PERIMETER ATTACK AND TO DO PERIMETER DEFENCE AND WHERE YOU CAN’T HAVE EVERYBODY GO THROUGH METAL DETECTORS AND YOU CAN’T HAVE EVERYBODY — EVERYBODY’S BAG SYSTEMATICALLY SEARCHED AND IN THE WEEKEND I WAS UP AT MONTREAL AT THE CIRQUE du SOLIEL, FOR INSTANCE, A SHOW THERE AND YOU CAN LOOK IN PEOPLE’S BACKPACKS BUT YOU CAN’T PAT EVERYBODY DOWN AND IF SOMEONE PLANTS A DEVICE EARLY IN THE DAY OR SO IT CAN BE DIFFICULT TO THEN FIND THAT DEVICE AND YOU CAN DO A SWEEP WITH DOGS OR SO BUT ULTIMATELY WITH THAT MANY PEOPLE IT’S GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT TO DO THE ROBUST KIND OF INTENSE TYPE OF SECURITY.>>Carole: SO IS THIS A FAILURE OF INTELLIGENCE?>>Interview: WELL, THAT I THINK — WILL HAVE TO BE DETERMINED. SO THERE’S A CONCURRENT — BESIDE THE FIRST RESPONDERS HERE AND THE SWEEP FOR SECONDARY DEVICES THERE’S, OF COURSE, A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION ONGOING AND THAT CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION WILL THEN HAVE TO SHOW WHETHER THE DEVICE OR THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THIS DEVICE WERE INDEED ON THE INTELLIGENCE RADAR, OR WHETHER THESE WERE INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE ABLE TO SLIP UNDER THE RADAR. IT DOES APPEAR TO BE A FAIRLY PROFESSIONALLY DONE, GIVEN THE TYPE OF DEVICE WITH MAXIMUM CARNAGE AND MAXIMUM TIMING AND SO THAT SUGGESTED WHOEVER WAS INVOLVED HERE IS PROBABLY SOMEBODY THAT IF THEY WEREN’T ON THE RADAR SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON SECURITY SERVICES RADAR BUT, OF COURSE, REMEMBER, THAT THERE’S THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE OF CONCERN TO SECURITY FORCES. AND AT BEST YOU CAN WATCH A COUPLE HUNDRED OF THEM AT A TIME AND PERHAPS DO SORT OF INDIRECT SURVEILLANCE ON A FEW HUNDRED MORE. AND SO TRIAGING HOW YOU USE THESE RESOURCES AND WHERE YOU INVEST THOSE RESOURCES AND ULTIMATELY THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION FOR SECURITY SERVICES AND MUCH OF THE TIME THEY GET IT RIGHT AND EVERY NOW AND THEN THEY GET IT WRONG.>>Carole: HOW WOULD THEY HAVE DETECTED A SECOND DEVICE SO QUICKLY?>>Interview: SO, LOOK, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE LEARNED IS THAT — WHAT THE BAD GUYS TRY TO DO IS TO MAXIMIZE THE CARNAGE AND THERE’S OFTEN A SECOND DEVICE THAT IS TIMED TO GO OFF JUST A LITTLE BIT AFTER THE FIRST DEVICE. WHEN FIRST RESPONDERS ARE ALREADY ON-SITE AND THEN TRYING TO SORT OF THROW AS MUCH CARNAGE AS POSSIBLE INTO THAT PARTICULAR MIX. AND SO IT APPEARS THAT WHAT — WHAT FORCES WERE DOING IS TRYING TO IDENTIFY THE PROSPECT OF SUCH A SECONDARY DEVICE SOMEWHERE WITHIN THE VICINITY AND AT THE MOMENT WHETHER THAT’S AN ILLEGALLY PARKED CAR WHERE YOU’RE NOT SURE WHAT IS IN THE TRUNK OR IN THIS CASE A PILE OF CLOTHES, PERHAPS, THE FEAR THAT MIGHT BE BOOBY-TRAPPED SO TRYING TO TAKE OUT ANY SORT OF POTENTIAL — POTENTIAL DEVICE THAT MIGHT BE CAUSING FURTHER ADDITIONAL CARNAGE AND, OF COURSE, IN THIS CASE IT DIDN’T TURN OUT TO BE SUCH A DEVICE BUT IT SHOWS JUST HOW CIRCUMSPECT AND PROFESSIONAL THESE RESPONSES HAVE HAD BECOME TO DEAL WITH THAT CARNAGE.>>Carole: IT LOOKED LIKE AN ABANDONED EXPLOSION AT THE END OF THE DAY BUT A CONTROLLED EXPLOSION, NONETHELESS. WHAT WILL YOU LOOK FOR GOING FORWARD, CHRISTIAN?>>Interview: THERE’S THE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION UNDERWAY SO WE’LL LOOK FOR WHAT DEVICE IT WAS AND WHO MIGHT HAVE BUILT THAT DEVICE AND WHERE THE PLANS FOR THAT PARTICULAR DEVICE MIGHT HAVE COME FROM AND THOSE CAN GIVE YOU INDICATIONS AS TO THE TYPE OF GROUPS OR INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY HAVE BEEN INVOLVED HERE BUT WHOEVER PLANTED THIS DEVICE IS A SERIOUS RISK TO PUBLIC SAFETY. SO THIS ISN’T JUST A PASSIVE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION, THIS IS AN ACTIVE INTELLIGENCE OPERATION TO TRY TO IDENTIFY THE INDIVIDUALS INVOLVED AND MAKE SURETHEY’RE APPREHENDED BEFORE Y CAN STRIKE AGAIN. BUT THIS WILL ALSO MEAN PROBABLY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO SECURITY GOING FORWARD, WHETHER THAT’S A FUTURE CULTURAL MUSIC EVENTS IN THE UNITED KINGDOM OR FOR CANADA THE 150 CELEBRATIONS UP ON PARLIAMENT HILL.>>Carole: WE’LL KEEP THAT IN MIND, CHRISTIAN LEPRECHT, THANK YOU.>>Interview: MY PLEASURE.>>Carole: IN A MOMENT YOU’LL HEAR WHAT THE PRIME MINISTER OF THIS COUNTRY HAD TO SAY ON WHAT HAPPENED IN MANCHESTER TONIGHT BUT POLICE GAVE A BRIEF NEWS UPDATE CONFIRMING WHAT THE INVESTIGATORS KNOW AT THIS POINT…>>Interview: GOOD MORNING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. I’M THE CHIEF CONSTABLE OF THE MANCHESTER POLICE. I CAN CONFIRM THE DETAILS AS WE KNOW THEM. THAT AROUND 10:33 p.m. WE RECEIVED REPORTS OF AN EXPLOSION AT MANCHESTER RUN IN THE CITY CENTRE. THIS WAS AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE ARIANA GRANDE CONCERT. CURRENTLY WE HAVE 19 PEOPLE CONFIRMED TO HAVE LOST THEIR LIVES IN THE EXPLOSION. AND AROUND 50 CASUALTIES THAT WERE TREATED AT SIX HOSPITALS ACROSS GREATER MANCHESTER. MY THOUGHTS ARE VERY MUCH WITH THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN INJURED AND LOST THEIR LIVES AND THEIR LOVED ONES AT THIS TERRIBLE TIME. WE ARE DOING ALL THAT WE CAN TO SUPPORT THEM. OFFICERS FROM GREATER MANCHESTER POLICE AND EMERGENCY SERVICES ARE WORKING AT THE SCENE ON SUPPORTING THOSE AFFECTED AND WE ARE COORDINATING THE OPERATION HERE AT GREATER MANCHESTER POLICE HEADQUARTERS. AN EMERGENCY NUMBER IS AVAILABLE FOR ALL THOSE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR LOVED ONES OR ANYONE WHO MAY HAVE BEEN IN THE AREA. THE NUMBER IS 0161-856-9400. WE ARE CURRENTLY TREATING THIS AS A TERRORIST INCIDENT UNTIL WE HAVE FURTHER INFORMATION. WE ARE WORKING CLOSELY WITH NATIONAL COUNTERTERRORISM POLICING THAT WORK AND U.K. INTELLIGENCE PARTNERS. THIS IS CLEARLY A VERY CONCERNING TIME FOR EVERYONE. WE ARE DOING ALL THAT WE CAN WORKING WITH LOCAL AND NATIONAL AGENCIES TO SUPPORT THOSE AFFECTED. AS WE GATHER INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED LAST NIGHT. AS YOU WILL UNDERSTAND WE ARE STILL RECEIVING INFORMATION AND UPDATES SO WE’LL PROVIDE FURTHER DETAIL WHEN WE HAVE A CLEARER PICTURE. I WANT TO THANK PEOPLE FOR THEIR SUPPORT. I’D ASK THEM TO REMAIN VIGILANT AND IF THEY HAVE ANY CONCERNS AT ALL TO REPORT THEM TO THE NATIONAL ANTI-TERRORIST HOTLINE. THE NUMBER IS 0800-789-321. IT IS IMPORTANT ALSO THAT PEOPLE HERE IN MANCHESTER AVOID THE AREA AROUND MANCHESTER ARENA SO THAT EMERGENCY SERVICES CAN CONTINUE TO EFFECTIVELY DEAL WITH THE INCIDENT AT THAT LOCATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.>>Carole: THAT WAS THE CHIEF CONSTABLE OF THE MANCHESTER POLICE NOT TAKING ANY QUESTIONS BUT CONFIRMING WHAT WE HAD HEARD THROUGH MOST OF THE EVENING THAT THEY BELIEVE THAT THIS WAS A TERRORIST ATTACK THAT TOOK THE LIVES OF 19 PEOPLE AND INJURED 50 OTHERS WHEN AN EXPLOSION OCCURRED JUST AT THE CLOSING OF THE ARIANA GRANDE CONCERT IN MANCHESTER, ENGLAND. PRIME MINISTER JUSTIN TRUDEAU HAS TAKEN TO TWITTER TONIGHT IN THE WAKE OF THE HORRIFIC EVENTS IN BRITAIN AND HERE’S WHAT HE HAS HAD TO SAY… CANADIANS ARE SHOCKED BY THE NEWS OF THE HORRIFIC ATTACK IN MANCHESTER TONIGHT. PLEASE KEEP THE VICTIMS AND THEIR FAMILIES IN YOUR THOUGHTS. OTTAWA IS ADVISING CANADIANS IN THE U.K. TO AVOID THE AFFECTED AREA IN MANCHESTER AND CANADIANS THERE ARE ALSO ADVISED TO CONTACT LOCAL AFFAIRS IF THEY REQUIRE EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE.>>>SOME OF ARIANA GRANDE’S FELLOW CELEBRITIES HAVE TWEETED OUT SUPPORT FOR THE VICTIMS OF THE BLAST. BY THE WAY, ARIANA GRANDE IS OKAY. SINGER KATY PERRY SAYS SHE’S, QUOTE, PRAYING FOR EVERYONE AT ARIANA GRANDE’S SHOW. SINGER DEMI LOVATO SAID SHE WAS TEARING UP IMAGINING INNOCENT PEOPLE LOSING THEIR LIVES. AND CHER HAD THIS TO SAY, MY PRAYER GOES OUT TO THE PEOPLE OF MANCHESTER… HAD SPECIAL TIMES THERE FROM YOUTH AND BEYOND.>>>MORE CONCRETE SUPPORT FOR VICTIMS IS ALSO BEING RALLIED ON TWITTER. AND THE #ROOMSFORMANCHESTER IS PROVIDING TRANSPORTATION FOR PEOPLE STRANDED BY THIS TRAGEDY.>>>STILL MUCH MORE AHEAD ON “THE NATIONAL” AND WE’RE FOLLOWING DEVELOPMENTS ON WHAT POLICE CALL A TERRORIST INCIDENT IN MANCHESTER, WE’LL HAVE AN UPDATE FROM THE BRITISH CAPITAL IN JUST A FEW MINUTES. STAY WITH ♪ [dreamy] Reporter:
This is Roger Tetreault. He’s a Montreal
bill collector– that’s his job. He also holds
news conferences– that’s his hobby. [speaking French] Reporter: Here’s Tetreault three
years ago, posing as the president
of a fictional group called “Water Aid For America,” urging that Canada
ship its water to the drought-stricken US. The national media
gobbled it up. News Announcer:
Here is the CBC News. A group of Montreal residents
wants to pressure the Canadian government
into diverting water from the Great Lakes into
the Mississippi River. Reporter: The French language
network of the CBC believed Tetreault was also
a nuclear expert. [speaking French] Reporter: Here he is telling
a national audience how the Chernobyl disaster
could rain down assorted horrors
on North Americans. The now-defunct
Montreal Daily News had him under another name,
Tuball Cane, and yet another vocation. It’s been going on
for years. In 1971, the Montreal Star
thought it had a scoop. An internal
CIA memo outlining covert operations
in Quebec. It even made
The National on CBC. Under a CIA letterhead,
the document reads “Subject: Quebec.” Reporter: It was Tetreault’s
work, of course. Around the same time,
he suckered the Toronto Star Weekly with
a phony FLQ terrorist camp in the Laurentian Hills. I told myself,
“If they want fiction, I’ll give them fiction.”
So I gave them fiction. Reporter: Tetreault says there
are many others like him, only nowadays, they’re known as
“media consultants” and “spin doctors.” Whoever’s got
an axe to grind, they give
their spin to it, and they get
into the media, and that’s the story
that goes out. He’s absolutely right. Governments, anybody
who’s covered governments or followed things
they do know that they engage in this, whether you want to call them
trial balloons or disinformation,
they do it frequently. Reporter: Is Tetreault’s career
as a hoaxer over? Perhaps. But he says he’ll
certainly keep trying, guided by
the firm belief that there’s a reporter born
every minute. He mouthed two words,
the first word of which started with F and the second
word of which started with O. Well, it’s a lie, because
I didn’t say anything. Reporter: Sir,
did you mouth it? What does mouth mean? Reporter: Move your lips. Yes, I moved my lips. Reporter: In the words
you’ve been quoted as saying? No. [crosstalk]
What were you thinking when you moved
your lips? What is the nature of
your thoughts, gentlemen, when you say fuddleduddle
or something like that? God! Well, the big topic
on Parliament Hill today wasn’t the Constitution,
it wasn’t the economy, it was the Prime Minister
and his language. I heard him say
very clearly [bleep]ing bastard. I convey to the Speaker my regrets for
any inconvenience and I convey to any honourable
member of the House of my regrets to them. Just quiet down, baby. [laughter, oohing] Reporter: Liberal Sheila Copps
didn’t think the remark was very funny. I’m not his baby,
and I’m nobody’s baby, and I’d like him to
withdraw those remarks. The House is no stranger
to heated exchanges, but few have been this heated
or this strange. -Did he–
-For shame. Now, I hear the word racist
from that side. Do you have the fortitude
or the gonads to stand up and come across here
and say that to me, you son of a bitch?
Come on! [oohing] -Darrel.
-Darrel. Order. -I will not have some asshole–
-Order. sit there and
call me a racist! Reporter: Stinson
came within three metres of Liberal John Cannis
before returning to his seat. Reporter: That was too much
for one Liberal MP. [oohing] I did not say fuddleduddle,
that was another generation. I think that
we’ve reached a point where this type of conduct
that’s not only disgraceful, but it’s unacceptable. ♪ ♪ (♪♪♪) (♪♪♪)>>Carole: IT WAS A CHANCE FIND, A SLIGHTLY BATTERED BLUE URN THAT COULD HAVE EASILY BEEN MISSED ON THE BANKS OF THE BOW RIVER BUT WHEN AN ALBERTA MAN RETRIEVED IT HE NEVER COULD HAVE GUESSED THE JOURNEY IT HAD BEEN ON, OR HOW IT WOULD CHANGE HIS OWN PATH. THE CBC’S CAROLYN DUNN EXPLAINS.>>Reporter: ROB RUSSELL’S DIFFICULT JOURNEY BEGAN LAST OCTOBER, COMING TO WORK ON HIS BICYCLE.>>Interview: ONE OF THOSE BIG INDUSTRIAL GARAGE DOORS CAME DOWN ON TOP OF MY HEAD.>>Reporter: DESPITE WEARING A HELMET, RUSSELL WAS LEFT WITH A SEVERE CONCUSSION. WHEN THE DIZZINESS AND THE HEADACHES ARE MINIMAL, A TRIP TO THE MOUNTAINS IS A KEY PART OF RUSSELL’S THERAPY.>>Interview: THE PERFECT PLACE FOR ME TO SIT AND BE CALM AND I DON’T HAVE TO FOCUS ON ANYTHING AND I CAN JUST FISH.>>Reporter: IN MID-APRIL RUSSELL WAS SEARCHING FOR THE PERFECT SPOT ON THE BANKS OF THE BOW RIVER TO CAST OFF WHEN SOMETHING SHINY CAUGHT HIS EYE.>>Interview: I LOOKED DOWN AND I COULD TELL THAT IT WAS A VASE OR AN URN AND I COULDN’T GET DOWN THE EMBANKMENT SO I GOT MY FISHING ROD AND I HOOKED IT AROUND AND THEN I JUST VERY GENTLY BROUGHT IT UP. I’M NOT A GREAT FISHER, I DON’T CATCH TOO MANY THINGS, BUT I CAUGHT THIS. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT’S INSIDE, I ONLY KNOW THAT — I DON’T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE THAT — PLEASE OPEN AND READ THE NOTE.>>Reporter: RUSSELL TOOK THE URN HOME TO OPEN UP WITH HIS FOUR BOYS AND DISCOVERED ITS HEARTBREAKING BEGINNINGS.>>Interview: I MISS YOU SO MUCH SO THIS IS A TRIBUTE TO A DAD THAT PASSED AWAY YEARS AGO.>>Reporter: HE EMAILED THE WOMAN WHOSE CONTACT WAS ON THE URN, NEVER GUESSING HOW THE STORY WOULD UNFOLD. ABOUT TWO HOURS NORTH IN ROCKY MOUNTAIN HOUSE, VICKY WESTLAND AND HER FIVE KIDS WERE DOING WHAT THEY DO, CARRYING ON THROUGH GRIEF.>>Interview: WE’RE JUST A YEAR LATER AND OUR HEARTS ARE STILL VERY BROKEN.>>Reporter: THE YEAR BEFORE, SHAWN HAD SPIRED INTO A SCARY DARKNESS THAT HAD SEPARATED AND TERRIFIED THE FAMILY ON. APRIL 17, 2016, SHAWN WESTLAND TOOK HIS OWN LIFE ON HIS THIRD ATTEMPT.>>Interview: IT WAS ALMOST LIKE WE KNEW EVENTUALLY THAT HE WOULD BE SUCCESSFUL AT DOING THIS AND WE COULDN’T STOP HIM. WE TRIED EVERYTHING, WE TRIED EVERYTHING.>>Reporter: ALL HIS FAMILY COULD DO WAS REMEMBER HIM WELL.>>Interview: HE WAS PASSIONATE ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT HE DID AND HE REALLY, REALLY LOVED TO SCUBA DIVE, THAT WAS ONE OF HIS MAIN PASSIONS.>>Reporter: THE FAMILY SCATTERED SHAWN’S ASHES ON A COVE IN THE PACIFIC OCEAN.>>Interview: WE FILLED THE URN WITH SIX ROSES AND THEN I JUST HAD EACH OF THE CHILDREN WRITE A LITTLE LETTER SAYING GOODBYE.>>Interview: I SAID I MISS HIM.>>Interview: AND I SAID GOODBYE AND THAT I MISS HIM AND STUFF.>>Interview: HE LIKED PLAYING HOCKEY AND HIS FAVOURITE HOCKEY TEAM WAS THE OILERS.>>Interview: AND WE WOULD DO STUFF TOGETHER, JUST ME AND HIM ALL BY OURSELVES AND GO DOWNSTAIRS AND WATCH A MOVIE.>>Interview: I WROTE I MISS YOU AND I LOVE YOU.>>Reporter: THEY TOSSED THE URN IN THE PACIFIC OCEAN AND IT WAS SENT BACK ON ITS WAY TWICE BEFORE SOMEHOW ENDING UP IN AN ALBERTA RIVER WHERE ROB RUSSELL.>>Interview: AND FIRST THING THAT I SAID TO HIM WAS I’M SO EXCITED THAT IT’S FOUND AGAIN, BUT IN THE BOW RIVER, YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT I PUT THIS IN THE PACIFIC OCEAN. LIKE I DON’T KNOW HOW — IT’S IMPOSSIBLE.>>Reporter: IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE URN TO HAVE CROSSED THE CONTINENTAL DIVIDE IN THE WATER. IT REMAINS A MYSTERY HOW IT GOT FROM THE B.C. COAST TO AN ALBERTA RIVER IN THE ROCKY MOUNTAINS. WHAT IS CLEAR IS HOW MUCH THE URN HAS COME TO MEAN TO ROB RUSSELL. YOU SEE, IN ADDITION TO THE PHYSICAL SYMPTOMS FROM HIS SEVERE CONCUSSION, HIS MENTAL HEALTH HAS BEEN SUFFERING TOO.>>Interview: I COULD FEEL ANGER BOILING UP MUCH EASIER, AND A HARDER TIME NOT FILTERING WHAT I WANTED TO SAY.>>Reporter: RUSSELL WAS BECOMING INCREASINGLY ISOLATED. THE URN HAS HELPED TO KEEP HIM FROM SPIRALLING.>>Interview: ACTED LIKE A TOTUM FOR ME AND I JUST KEPT IT IN THE HOUSE AND I CAN LOOK AT IT AND JUST — IT’S A TANGIBLE REMINDER OF ME TO BE LIKE, OKAY, THINGS ARE OKAY.>>Interview: IT WAS ALMOST LIKE GOD PICKED IT UP OUT OF THE OCEAN AND PUT IT IN THE BOW RIVER JUST AT THAT RIGHT TIME WHEN ROB WAS FISHING AND IT NEEDED TO COME ROB’S WAY.>>Reporter: TODAY ROB RUSSELL AND VICKY WESTLAND AND THEIR FAMILIES MET FACE-TO-FACE FOR THE FIRST TIME. A CHANCE TO RECALL THE STROKE OF SERENDIPITY THAT BROUGHT THEM TOGETHER.>>Interview: SO HERE IT IS… I CAN’T BELIEVE THE JOURNEY THIS HAS MADE.>>Reporter: THE IMPACT THAT HAS HAD ON ALL OF THEM.>>Interview: THE KIDS, YOU KNOW, AS I TOLD THEM THIS STORY, THE FIRST THINGS OUT OF THEIR MOUTH WERE, DAD’S FAVOURITE PLACE WAS THE OCEAN AND THE MOUNTAINS AND IT’S LIKE — IT’S KNOWING THAT HE’S AT PEACE FOR US, RIGHT?>>Reporter: THERE WERE SOME NEW LETTERS TO ADD TO SHAWN WESTLAND’S URN, REMEMBRANCES FROM HIS NIECES.>>Interview: I MISS YOU FOR THE FACT THAT I ONLY KNOW CRIB BECAUSE YOU TAUGHT ME AND I WILL MISS YOU FOR ALL OF THE TIMES THAT YOU MADE MY VISIT BETTER.>>Interview: SO SORRY.>>Reporter: AND ROB RUSSELL’S OWN NOTE.>>Interview: AND ALSO I WROTE IN MY NOTE, NOBODY IS EVER LIKE ALONE IN ALL OF THIS, RIGHT? IT’S JUST NICE TO KNOW THAT IN MENTAL HEALTH AND WHATEVER TRIALS YOU FACE THAT THERE’S COMPLETE STRANGERS THAT ARE WILLING TO COME OUT AND HELP YOU, RIGHT? IN SOMETHING SO SIMPLE AS SAYING GOODBYE TO A LOVED ONE CAN HAVE A RIPPLE EFFECT.>>Reporter: WITH THAT SHAWN WESTLAND’S URN CONTINUED ITS JOURNEY TO WHEREVER AND WHOMEVER IT GOES NEXT.>>BYE, DADDY!>>Reporter: CAROLYN DUNN, CBC NEWS, CARTLAND, ALBERTA.>>Carole: THE COUNTING RESUMED IN B.C.’S MAY NINTH ELECTION AND THOSE 180,000 ABSENTEE VOTES NOW COUNTED FOR THE FIRST TIME COULD MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE. TWO RIDINGS ARE ALSO RECOUNTED WHICH ALL MEANS THE POLITICAL LANDSCAPE COULD SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGE IN JUST A MATTER OF DAYS. BRIAR STEWART EXPLAINS.>>Reporter: ALONG FALSE CREEK IN VANCOUVER IT WAS A PERFECT DAY FOR A PADDLE OR EVEN A MID-DAY NAP. YET IN THE CROWDS OUT ENJOYING THE SUNSHINE THERE WERE SOME TAKING A MOMENT TO CONSIDER THE PROVINCE’S POLITICAL CLIMATE.>>Interview: I JUST SORT OF WONDER WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IF THERE ISN’T A MAJORITY.>>Interview: PRETTY EXCITING AND I’M ONLY 26 AND WE’VE NEVER HAD AN ELECTION THIS INTERESTING IN THE PROVINCE BEFORE.>>Reporter: SO CLOSE THAT NEARLY TWO WEEKS AFTER THE ELECTION, B.C. IS STILL IN POLITICAL LIMBO. INITIAL RESULTS POINT TO THE LIBERALS HOLDING ON TO POWER BUT FALLING ONE SEAT SHORT OF FORMING A MAJORITY GOVERNMENT. HOWEVER, THAT COULD CHANGE BECAUSE NEARLY 180,000 ABSENTEEE BALLOTS WERE CAST, INCLUDING SOME IN VERY CLOSE RIDINGS.>>Interview: THERE’S A LOT OF ATTENTION ON THIS PARTICULAR ELECTION FOR THE ABSENTEE BALLOT COUNTING PROCESS.>>Reporter: TWO RIDINGS ARE BEING RE-COUNTED, ONE IN VANCOUVER-FALSE CREEK WHERE THERE WAS A DISCREPANCY IN THE NUMBER OF BALLOTS RECORDED DURING AN ADVANCED POLL. AND THEN THE HIGHLY CONTESTED RIDING OF COURTNEY-COMOX, AFTER MORE THAN 27,000 VOTES WERE COUNTED ON ELECTION NIGHT THE N.D.P. CANDIDATE HAD THE LEAD OVER THE LIBERALS BY JUST NINE VOTES. A SLIM MARGIN CONSIDERING THAT NEARLY 2,100 ABSENTEE BALLOTS STILL NEED TO BE COUNTED IN THIS RIDING. THIS POLITICAL SCIENTIST SAYS THAT IT’S CLEAR THAT THE PROVINCE IS DIVIDED.>>Interview: SO A LOT RIDES ON THIS AND WE COULD GO FROM ANYTHING FROM A MAJORITY BUT BARE MAJORITY GOVERNMENT OF THE LIBERALS ALL THE WAY TO A GREEN N.D.P. COALITION OF SOME SORT.>>Reporter: FOR SOME, THEY SEE THE UPSIDE OF HAVING A MINORITY GOVERNMENT, PARTICULARLY WHEN IT COMES TO CONTROVERSIAL PROJECTS, INCLUDING PIPELINES AND HYDROELECTRIC DAMS.>>Interview: I HOPE THAT IT MIGHT OPEN UP SOME MORE DIALOGUE AND LOOKING AT THINGS PROBLEM A DIFFERENT MANNER, LIKE KINDER MORGAN AND SITE-C.>>Reporter: TONIGHT THE RECOUNTS ARE COMPLETE AND IN COURTNEY-COMOX THE N.D.P. LEAD STANDS AT 13 VOTES AND IN VANCOUVER-FALSE CREEK, THE LIBERAL LEAD IS UNCHANGED AT NEARLY 560 BUT ALL OF THOSE ABSENTEE BALLOTS STILL NEED TO BE COUNTED SO IT COULD TAKE A FEW MORE DAYS BEFORE THE FINAL RESULTS ARE IN. BRIAR STEWART, CBC NEWS, VANCOUVER.>>Carole: WE’LL HAVE RAN UPDATE ON THE MANCHESTER EXPLOSION ♪ [“The National” theme] ♪ how many roads
must a man walk down ♪ Reporter: The military here
say they have never seen anything like it around
the Lincoln Memorial, or for that matter,
anywhere else here in the capital
of the United States. Lift our nation from the
quicksands of racial injustice to the solid rock of
brotherhood, Now is the time. [cheering] Reporter: This park area
on the Washington Mall right underneath
the Capitol dome, has been the gathering place
for many demonstrations, but none quite so strange
as this collection of uniformed veterans
complete with medals and toy machine guns. The anti-war movement
in this country is an ever-changing
phenomenon– you never know quite
what to expect next. William H Gerald
from Atlanta, Georgia. 26 air medals and all the other
stuff that goes with it. [cheering] Reporter: Washington
was the scene today of the largest
anti-nuclear demonstration ever held in the US. [chants] four-six-eight!
We don’t want to radiate! two-four-six-eight!
We don’t want to radiate! If you’re not building
for the future, you’re stealing from it! Reporter: They call
the supreme court decision a tragic mistake, and on this,
the 10th anniversary of legalized abortions,
26,000 marchers vowed to begin a second
decade of protest. Organizers are calling it the biggest pro-choice
rally in history. ♪ we will never give up ♪ ♪ we will never give up ♪ ♪ we will never give in
we will never give in ♪ Reporter: From Capitol Hill
to the Washington Monument, they formed an awesome
mass of people– not the million and a half
the organizers claimed, but the largest ever gathering
of black Americans. We are not here
to tear down America, America is tearing
itself down. We are here to rebuild the wasted cities. Reporter: This was exactly
the image organizers wanted– a pageant of Americans
before a national icon. Announcer: Glenn Beck! Reporter: Summoned by
a political commentator and a champion
of Conservatives. This day is a day that we can start
the heart of America again. Look around you,
you’re not alone! You are Americans! [cheering] ♪ ♪ ♪ [news theme] The National. ♪ ♪ Peter Mansbridge:
Tonight. ♪ ♪ (♪♪♪) (♪♪♪)>>Carole: WELCOME BACK TO “THE NATIONAL.” I WANT TO TAKE YOU TO THE U.K. NOW FOR THE LATEST ON THE EXPLOSION AT THE MANCHESTER ARENA. BRITISH POLICE SAY THAT IT IS BEING INVESTIGATED AS A TERROR ATTACK. THEY HAVE CONFIRMED 19 PEOPLE ARE DEAD, ABOUT 50 PEOPLE INJURED, AND THE CBC’S THOMAS DAIGLE IS JOINING ME AGAIN TONIGHT LIVE FROM LONDON. THOMAS, TAKE US THROUGH WHAT WE KNOW RIGHT NOW.>>Reporter: LOCAL AMBULANCE SERVICES IN MANCHESTER HAVE CONFIRMED THEY’VE TAKEN 59 PEOPLE TO AREA HOSPITALS, PLUS THEY’VE TREATED A NUMBER OF INJURIES ON THE SCENE. NOT TO MENTION, OF COURSE, THE 19 PEOPLE CONFIRMED DEAD IN THAT EXPLOSION. POLICE HAVE AN UPDATE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT HERE IN BRITAIN TO CONFIRM THEY’RE TREATING THIS AS A TERRORIST INCIDENT UNTIL THEY KNOW OTHERWISE. WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE SEQUENCE OF EVENTS IS THIS — POP STAR ARIANA GRANDE HAD JUST LEFT THE STAGE, CONCERT-GOERS WERE STARTING TO FILE OUT OF THE MANCHESTER ARENA AND THAT’S WHEN THE EXPLOSION OCCURRED IN A PUBLIC AREA APPARENTLY OUTSIDE OF THE VENUE ITSELF NEAR THE BOX OFFICE. POLICE HAVE NOT SAID WHETHER THEY’RE LOOKING FOR ANY SUSPECTS AND THEY WERE ASKED TONIGHT AT THEIR BRIEFING BUT THEY DID NOT ANSWER. THEY HAVE NOT CONFIRMED U.S. MEDIA REPORTS THAT THIS APPARENT ATTACK WAS CARRIED OUT BY A SUICIDE BOMBER. A LOT OF CHAOS IN THE ARENA TONIGHT AS THAT LOUD BANG WAS HEARD, THE PEOPLE IN THE VENUE, MOST OF THEM SURELY WERE YOUNG KIDS OR TEENAGERS TRYING TO RUN OUTSIDE. MANY OF THEM THERE WITHOUT THEIR PARENTS. THE ANNOUNCER CAME OVER THE PUBLIC ADDRESS SYSTEM TO TELL PEOPLE TO STAY CALM AND TO LEAVE THE VENUE IN AN ORDERLY FASHION, BUT THERE’S STILL QUESTIONS AS TO WHETHER SOME PEOPLE PERHAPS WERE TRAMPLED AS EVERYONE WAS TRYING TO RUN OUT. THE SINGER HERSELF, ARIANA GRANDE, SAID TO BE OKAY BUT AGAIN POLICE CONFIRMED 19 DEAD IN WHAT PRIME MINISTER THERESA MAY DESCRIBED TONIGHT AS AN APPALLING TERRORIST ACT. CAROLE?>>Carole: YES, AND 21,000 PEOPLE WE’RE HEARING IN THAT ARENA TONIGHT, MANY PEOPLE TONIGHT DO NOT KNOW WHERE THEIR CHILDREN ARE. WE WILL CONTINUE TO FOLLOW THIS STORY. THOMAS DAIGLE IN LONDON, THANK YOU. AND THAT IS “THE NATIONAL” FOR THIS MONDAY NIGHT. FOR UPDATES ON THE MANCHESTER EXPLOSION, STAY TUNED TO CBC NEWS NETWORK. OR HEAD TO cbcnews.ca. I’M CAROLE MacNEIL. IF YOU’RE LEAVING US, GOODNIGHT. (♪♪♪) (♪♪♪) (♪♪♪)>>WAIT FOR ME. (♪♪♪)

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