The National for Monday, August 19, 2019 — Vaping Investigation, Airbnb Nightmare


(*) (*)>>Andrew: TONIGHT, IS VAPING MAKING TEENS SICK?>>MY CHEST FELT LIKE IT WAS COLLAPSING AND TIGHTENING UP AND I COULDN’T BREATHE.>>Andrew: SOME ARE DEVELOPING SEVERE LUNG DISEASE AFTER USING e-CIGARETTES. WE LOOK AT THE PUBLIC HEALTH INVESTIGATION. (*)>>THIS IS LUNACY.>>Andrew: THE CHILL ON CLIMATE CHANGE. WHY ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS FEAR THEY’LL BE SILENCED DURING THE ELECTION. (*)>>WE JUST FELT, LIKE, DIRTY BEING THERE.>>Andrew: AND AIRBNB SHUT DOWN A BAD HOST, SO HOW IS HE ABLE TO KEEP OPERATING? A CBC NEWS INVESTIGATION.>>>THIS IS “THE NATIONAL.” (*) (*)>>>THERE’S GROWING CONCERN TONIGHT ABOUT e-CIGARETTES AND TEENAGERS. THIS IS AFTER DOZENS IN THE U.S. WERE TREATED FOR SERIOUS BREATHING PROBLEMS. THE CENTRES FOR DISEASE CONTROL IS INVESTIGATING 94 CASES OF SEVERE LUNG ILLNESS ASSOCIATED WITH VAPING IN 14 STATES, ALL OF THEM THIS SUMMER. AND SO AS CHRISTINE BIRAK EXPLAINS THAT HAS HEALTH OFFICIALS HERE IN CANADA WATCHING VERY CLOSELY.>>I WOULD SAY LIKE MY CHEST FELT THAT IT WAS COLLAPSING AND TIGHTENING UP. AND I COULDN’T BREATHE.>>Reporter: JUST 18 YEARS OLD, CHANCE AMMARATA THOUGHT THAT HE WAS HAVING A HEART ATTACK.>>I JUST FREAKED OUT AND THEY SAID THAT YOUR LUNG HAS COLLAPSED AND YOU HAVE TO GO TO SURGERY RIGHT NOW.>>Reporter: DOCTORS FOUND A HOLE IN HIS RIGHT LUNG. THE SURGEON WHO REPAIRED IT SAID THAT IT COULD HAVE COME FROM SOMETHING THAT HE’S BEEN INHALING. AMMIRATA SAID THAT HE HAD NEVER SMOKED, BUT STARTED USING E-CIGARETTES A YEAR AGO.>>THEY GO FROM HEALTHY ADOLESCENTS TO A LIFE-THREATENING SITUATION.>>Reporter: MORE THAN 100 PATIENTS HAVE SHOWN UP IN HOSPITAL WITH PNEUMONIA-LIKE SYMPTOMS INCLUDING COUGHING, SHORTNESS OF BREATH AND FATIGUE. AND SOME EVEN REQUIRED VENTILATORS TO HELP THEM BREATHE.>>THEY DON’T FIT ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY WORKED ON, UNDERSTOOD ABOUT LUNG DISEASE THAT IS MORE TYPICAL IN TEENS.>>Reporter: IT’S NOT CLEAR WHAT e-CIGARETTE BRAND OR PRODUCTS THEY WERE USING OR WHAT SUBSTANCES THEY WERE INHALING. ONE WISCONSIN TEEN DID REPORT VAPING T.H.C., AN ACTIVE INGREDIENT IN MARIJUANA. THE AMERICAN VAPING ASSOCIATION REPRESENTING e-CIGARETTE MAKERS, BELIEVES THAT DRUGS MAY BE WHAT IS CAUSING THE LUNG DAMAGE, NOT NICOTINE.>>ALTHOUGH WE HAVEN’T HEARD ANYTHING IN CANADA YET I THINK THAT IT’S JUST A MATTER OF TIME.>>Reporter: A RECENT STUDY FOUND THAT TEEN VAPING ROSE BY 74% IN ONE YEAR. DOCTORS SAY THAT THEY SIMPLY DON’T KNOW THE LONG-TERM EFFECTS OF VAPING.>>WE JUST HOPE THAT WE DON’T MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE THAT WAS DONE WITH CIGARETTE SMOKING 50 YEARS BEFORE PEOPLE BECAME AWARE OF ITS HARM.>>Reporter: AMMIRATA SAID THAT HE QUIT USING E-CIGARETTES. THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA HE’S NOW ENCOURAGING OTHERS TO DO THE SAME.>>I USED TO VAPE FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS NOW AND I FINALLY DECIDED TO STOP. I DIDN’T KNOW THAT I’D BE ABLE TO REACH PEOPLE FROM ALL AROUND THE WORLD. IT REALLY JUST TOUCHES MY HEART.>>Reporter: HOPING THAT SOME GOOD CAN COME FROM THE WORST DAY OF HIS LIFE. CHRISTINE BIRAK, CBC NEWS, TORONTO.>>Andrew: NOW HEALTH CANADA ISSUED A STATEMENT SAYING THEY HAVE REACHED OUT TO COLLEAGUES IN THE U.S. AND THAT, “WE WILL CONTINUE TO CAREFULLY MONITOR AS MORE INFORMATION BECOMES AVAILABLE AND WILL TAKE ACTION IF WARRANTED.”>>>NOW TO A CBC NEWS INVESTIGATION. QUESTIONS TONIGHT ABOUT HOW AIRBNB PROTECTS ITS GUESTS. A COUPLE MONTHS AGO IT FROZE THE ACCOUNT OF ONE OF ITS TOP HOSTS IN CANADA, SOMEONE CALLING THEMSELVES “A.J.” NOW A.J. BOASTED DOZENS OF LISTINGS UNTIL HE WAS QUIETLY SUSPENDED AND YET AS VALERIE OUELLET EXPLAINS, THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO ONLY FOUND OUT WHAT THEY HAD GOTTEN THEMSELVES INTO ON THE DAY THAT THEY SHOWED UP.>>Reporter: WHEN SHE ISN’T RUNNING AFTER HER TWO KIDS, STACY LaPIERRE IS RUNNING HER ONLINE BUSINESS. AND THIS NOVA SCOTIA MOM DECIDED SHE NEEDED A VACATION.>>YEAH, THIS IS THE ONE THAT WE BOOKED.>>Reporter: USING AIRBNB SHE RENTED A LOFT IN MONTRÉAL FOR HER AND HER GIRLFRIENDS FOR $200 A NIGHT. IT WAS LISTED BY A.J. AND HAD GREAT REVIEWS IN APRIL. BUT WHEN SHE AND HER FRIENDS WALKED IN THE DOOR IN JULY THEY COULD NOT BELIEVE WHAT THEY SAW.>>THE FLOORS WERE DISGUSTINGLY DIRTY. THERE WAS BROKEN MUGS. THERE WAS YELLOW SHOWER CURTAIN. LIKE, IT WAS JUST, LIKE, WHERE ARE WE? THIS DOES NOT LOOK LIKE WHAT WE HAD BOOKED.>>WE JUST FELT, LIKE, DIRTY BEING THERE.>>Reporter: SHE PULLED UP THE LISTING AGAIN AND NOW IT WAS LITTERED WITH TERRIBLE REVIEWS. BIG DISAPPOINTMENT WITH THIS APARTMENT. DECREPIT AND DIRTY. MOLD IN THE BATHROOM AND DIRTY TUB, COCKROACHES IN THE KITCHEN. AIRBNB HAD BLOCKED THE HOST FROM TAKING NEW BOOKINGS BUT THAT WAS WEEKS BEFORE LaPIERRE AND HER FRIENDS ARRIVED. SHE HAD NO IDEA UNTIL WE TOLD HER.>>IF HE WAS SUSPENDED IN JUNE I WOULD HAVE HAD AMPLE TIME TO GET MY MONEY BACK.>>Reporter: IN FACT, A CBC NEWS INVESTIGATION EARLIER THIS YEAR REVEALED A HOST WHO USES THE NAME “A.J.” OFFERED MORE THAN 90 LISTINGS ON AIRBNB IN MONTRÉAL. NEARLY THE MOST OUT OF ANYONE IN CANADA.>>HE KIND OF STOOD OUT WITH THE POKER TABLE.>>Reporter: ANDRÉ CARON ALSO BOOKED ONE OF THOSE PROPERTIES. AFTER A.J. WAS SUSPENDED, CARON NOTICED THE SAME APARTMENT NOW BEING OFFERED BY SOMEONE NAMED “BARRY.” SKEPTICAL, CARON CANCELLED.>>I THINK THAT ENOUGH BAD REVIEWS SHOULD BAN YOU FROM THE SITE.>>Reporter: BUT CARON AND LaPIERRE WANT TO KNOW WHAT AIRBNB IS DOING TO PROTECT CUSTOMERS. ONCE WE STARTED ASKING QUESTIONS BOTH A.J. AND BARRY’S ACCOUNTS WERE COMPLETELY SHUTDOWN BY AIRBNB.>>Andrew: OKAY, SO, VALERIE, WHAT DOES AIRBNB HAVE TO SAY ABOUT ALL OF THIS?>>Reporter: WELL, THE COMPANY SAYS THAT THE MAIN REASON THAT IT SHUT DOWN BOTH ACCOUNTS IS BECAUSE THEY WERE VIOLATING THEIR POLICIES. AND THEY SAY THAT ANY TRAVELLER WHO HAS ONGOING OR IMPENDING BOOKINGS WITH THESE TWO ACCOUNTS WILL BE FULLY REFUNDED. AND THE COMPANY ALSO MENTIONED THAT IT DOES MONITOR AND SURVEILL THE EXCHANGES AND THE REVIEWS BETWEEN GUESTS AND HOSTS TO SOME EXTENT FOR QUALITY CONTROL. BUT IT STILL HASN’T SAID WHY IT DID NOT WARN THESE TRAVELLERS WHO HAD ALREADY BOOKED WITH THOSE SPECIFIC GUESTS.>>Andrew: IF PEOPLE WANT TO BE MORE PROACTIVE WHEN THEY ARE BOOKING ON SITES, BE IT AIRBNB OR SOME SIMILAR SITE, WHAT OUGHT THEY TO DO?>>DON’T BOOK IT AND FORGET IT. IF YOU BOOK SOMETHING ONLINE BECAUSE YOU THANK IT HAS GREAT REVIEWS AND YOU LIKE IT, MAKE SURE THAT IT STAYS THAT WAY. KEEP CHECKING IN REGULARLY, ESPECIALLY IF YOU BOOKED MONTHS IN ADVANCE.>>Andrew: BECAUSE IN THIS CASE REVIEWS CHANGED OVER TIME?>>Reporter: IN THIS CASE THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. THE REVIEWS CHANGED OVER TIME AND THAT’S WHAT HAPPENED WITH STACY LaPIERRE FOR EXAMPLE.>>Andrew: INTERESTING STORY. VALERIE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.>>Reporter: YOU’RE WELCOME.>>Andrew: AND CONTRARY TO AIRBNB’S POPULAR IMAGE, MANY OF THEM ARE MULTIMILLION DOLLAR ENTERPRISES. SOME ARE OPEN ABOUT BEING COMPANIES AS OPPOSED TO BEING SOME TRAVELLER FRIENDLY HOMEOWNER. BUT TAKE GEN. SHE HAS 162 LISTINGS IN THE OTTAWA AREA. HER PROFILE SAYS SHE MOVED THERE NINE YEARS AGO. HAS A DOG NAMED JERRY. BUT WHOO IT DOESN’T SAY IS THAT SHE’S THE OWNER OF OTTAWA’S BIGGEST AIRBNB MANAGEMENT COMPANY. OTHER TOP HOSTS LIKE SEB BASED IN TORONTO ARE EVEN MORE MYSTERIOUS. BACK IN APRIL HE WAS KNOWN AS “MIKE.” EARLIER REVIEWS REFERRED TO HIM AS HAKIM. BUT WHOEVER HE IS HE HAS AN AIRBNB EMPIRE WITH 63 LISTINGS WITH A STAGGERING 8,000 PLUS REVIEWS. HIS PHOTO? A STOCK IMAGE USED WIDELY ONLINE.>>>WELL, NINE WEEKS OUT FROM ELECTION DAY, THE FEDERAL PARTIES ARE KEEN TO GRAB YOUR ATTENTION AND TO FRAME THE ISSUES SO THAT YOU MIGHT SEE THINGS THEIR WAY. WELL, TONIGHT WE HAVE TWO STORIES ON HOW THOSE MESSAGES GET TO YOU. THE CONSERVATIVES PLAN TO CHARGE JOURNALISTS MUCH LESS THAN USUAL TO TRAVEL WITH THEIR LEADER DURING THE CAMPAIGN. DOES THAT AMOUNT TO SUBSIDIZING COVERAGE? WE’LL TALK ABOUT IT. BUT, FIRST, THE SUDDEN CHILL AROUND CLIMATE. AN ENVIRONMENTAL GROUP RAISED FEARS TODAY THAT ELECTION RULES COULD STOP IT FROM RUNNING ADS THAT SAY THAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS REAL. BUT AS SALIMAH SHIVJI FOUND, IT’S A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED THAN THAT.>>Reporter: IT’S AN ISSUE THAT THEY’RE ALL TALKING ABOUT.>>Prime Minister Justin Trudeau: WE HAVE TO BE DOING MORE TO FIGHT CLIMATE CHANGE.>>The Hon. Andrew Scheer: CLIMATE CHANGE IS REAL AND IT REPRESENTS A SERIOUS THREAT.>>AND THE SCIENTIFIC CONSENSUS HAS BEEN OVERWHELMINGLY CLEAR FOR TOO LONG.>>WE’RE IN A CLIMATE EMERGENCY.>>Reporter: BUT THERE’S ONE OUTLIER ON WHAT CAUSES CLIMATE CHANGE, MAXIME BERNIER STANDS ALONE.>>I DID NOT SAY THAT IT’S NOT REAL. WHAT I’M SAYING IS THAT THE MAIN REASON FOR CLIMATE CHANGE IS NOT HUMAN ACTIVITY.>>Reporter: AND THAT MEANS THAT IT COULD BE DEEMED A PARTISAN ELECTIONS ISSUE BY ELECTIONS CANADA.>>IT’S BECAUSE OF CLIMATE CHANGE…>>Reporter: SO PAID ADS CREATED BY ENVIRONMENTALISTS WOULD HAVE TO BE TRACKED, IF THE GROUP SPENDS MORE THAN $500 ON THEM, EVEN IF THEY DON’T MENTION A SPECIFIC PARTY. SOME ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS WORRY THEY’RE BEING MUZZLED.>>WHY IS IT STRUCTURED IN A WAY THAT IT SILENCES PEOPLE SPEAKING THE TRUTH ABOUT A SCIENTIFIC REALITY DURING THE ELECTION RECYCLE? BUT WE’RE NOT GOING TO BREAK THE LAW SO WE’RE GOING TO BE SILENT.>>Reporter: FOR HIM THERE’S NO DEBATE AND THE SCIENCE IS CLEAR, BUT EXPERTS SAY THAT IT’S NOT SO CUT AND DRY.>>NOW SOME PEOPLE MAY FEEL THAT THE ENVIRONMENT IS SOMETHING THAT EVERYONE AGREES WITH AND THAT THERE’S NO ISSUE. BUT THAT’S NOT THE CASE.>>Reporter: ELECTIONS CANADA SPENT THE DAY TRYING TO EXPLAIN THE RULES, SAYING WHAT BECOMES A PARTISAN ELECTIONS ISSUE WILL BE DECIDED ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS. BUT THAT DIDN’T STOP THE POLITICAL ATTACKS FROM FLYING ON THIS ISSUE THAT SEVERAL PARTIES WANT TO OWN.>>IF MAX BERNIER WERE TO ANNOUNCE TOMORROW THAT SMOKING IS GOOD FOR YOU — DO THOSE DOCTORS HAVE TO REGISTER AS A THIRD-PARTY ORGINISATION IN ORDER TO SAY WHAT IS TRUE ABOUT MEDICAL SCIENCE? THIS IS LUNACY.>>Prime Minister Justin Trudeau: I THINK THE WHOLE QUESTION HIGHLIGHTS THE FACT THAT IT’S SO FRUSTRATING, BUT THERE ARE STILL CONSERVATIVE POLITICIANS IN THIS COUNTRY WHO DON’T THINK THAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS REAL.>>Reporter: AND EVEN THE MAN WHOSE POSITION TRIGGERED THE CONTROVERSY TWEETED, “HIS DISDAIN FOR THE RULE.” CALLING IT “ABSURD.” SALIMAH SHIVJI, CBC NEWS, OTTAWA.>>Andrew: NOW LET’S LOOK AT HOW ELECTION NEWS GETS TO YOU. I MENTIONED THAT THE CONSERVATIVES WILL CHARGE JOURNALISTS CONSIDERABLY LESS THAN USUAL TO TRAVEL AROUND THE COUNTRY WITH THE LEADER. IT’S OPENED UP QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY THEY’RE DOING THAT. KATIE SIMPSON TAKES US THROUGH IT.>>Reporter: BEFORE MAKING IT TO A MOMENT LIKE THIS… [Cheers and Applause] NATIONAL PARTY LEADERS HAVE TO DO A LOT OF THIS…>>GREAT TO SEE YOU GUYS. GREAT TO SEE YOU!>>Reporter: JOURNALISTS ARE THERE FOR EVERY STEP AND MISSTEP OF THE CROSS-CANADA CAMPAIGN. BUT AS THE INDUSTRY CONTINUES TO LOSE REVENUE, FEWER REPORTERS, PARTICULARLY FROM NEWSPAPERS, ARE TRAVELLING WITH THE LEADERS. IN A BID TO GET MORE COVERAGE, ONE PARTY IS OFFERING REPORTERS A RIDE ON ITS LEADERS’ TOUR AT A DRAMATICALLY LOWER PRICE THAN PREVIOUS CAMPAIGNS.>>The Hon. Andrew Scheer: WE HAVE A GREAT STORY TO TELL AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THAT STORY IN FRONT OF CANADIANS IN MANY POSSIBLE WAYS AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.>>Reporter: TO COVER AIRFARE AND BUS RIDES AND WIFI AND OFFICE SPACE, THE CONSERVATIVES WANT TO CHARGE NEWS OUTLETS $11, $11,500 PER JOURNALIST FOR THE DURATION OF THE CAMPAIGN. AND THE N.D.P. SAY THEY’LL CHARGE JOURNALISTS $45,000. THE LIBERALS ARE STILL WORKING ON THEIR NUMBER. THE CONSERVATIVES SAY THEY DON’T WANT THE LOW PRICE TO ATTRACT FRINGE OUTLETS AND ADVOCACY GROUPS, INCLUDING THE ULTRA RIGHT-WING ULTRA-CONTROVERSIAL WEBSITE “THE REBEL” WILL NOT BE GRANTED THIS ON THE LEADERS’ TOUR. SOURCES SAY THAT THE REBEL WOULD BE A DISTRACTION.>>I DON’T THINK THAT A CUT RATE OR A LOW-BALL PRICE WILL ACTUALLY RESULT IN ANY MORE FAVOURABLE COVERAGE.>>Reporter: THIS FORMER N.D.P. STRATEGIST SAYS THAT SHE UNDERSTANDS WANTING MORE COVERAGE. BUT SHE HAS CONCERNS THAT THE CONSERVATIVES MAY BE SUBSIDIZING TRAVEL FOR JOURNALISTS. ELECTIONS CANADA SAYS THAT IT CAN’T TRACK WHETHER PARTIES ARE OVER OR UNDERCHARGING NEWS OUTLETS.>>THERE’S NO WAY FOR ELECTIONS CANADA TO DETERMINE THAT BECAUSE THE CAMPAIGN REPORTS THEY SUBMIT ARE NOT TO THAT LEVEL OF GRANULAR DETAIL.>>Reporter: THE CONSERVATIVES INSIST THIS IS NOT SUBSIDIZED TRAVEL, SAYING THAT THE PRICE IS WHAT IT WOULD BE FOR JOURNALISTS TO FOLLOW THE TOUR IN THE MOST OBVIOUS AND ECONOMIC WAY POSSIBLE. IT WILL BE UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL NEWS ORGINISATIONS AS TO WHETHER THEY GET ON BOARD. A SPOKESPERSON FOR CBC NEWS SAYS THAT IT’S LOOKING INTO THE PRICE DISCREPANCY AND THEY WILL NOT HAVE ANY PARTY SUBSIDIZE ITS COSTS. KATIE SIMPSON, CBC NEWS, OTTAWA.>>Andrew: CANADA’S FEDERAL COURT APPROVED A CLASS-ACTION LAWSUIT SETTLEMENT FOR THE FORMER STUDENTS OF GOVERNMENT-RUN INDIAN DAY SCHOOLS. THE STUDENTS SAY THEY ENDURED THE SAME ABUSE AND NEGLECT AS THOSE THAT LIVED IN RESIDENTIAL SCHOOLS. AND AS KAREN PAUL EXPLAINS, THEY’LL NOW SHARE ALMOST $1.5 BILLION IN COMPENSATION.>>Reporter: MARGARET ANN SWAN’S PHONE AND SOCIAL MEDIA EXPLODED AFTER SHE POSTED THIS ON FACEBOOK.>>I AM EMOTIONAL. I JUST GOT THE PHONE CALL THAT THE DAY SCHOOL LAWSUIT IS APPROVED.>>Reporter: FEDERAL DAY SCHOOL STUDENTS LAUNCHED THIS CLASS-ACTION AFTER THEY WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THE 2006 SETTLEMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL SCHOOL SURVIVORS.>>THERE WAS PHYSICAL, EMOTIONAL, SEXUAL ABUSE, THERE WAS A LOT OF BELITTLING.>>Reporter: COMPENSATION PAYMENTS WILL RANGE BETWEEN $10,000 AND $200,000, DEPENDING ON THE ABUSE AND NEGLECT EXPERIENCED. UP TO 140,000 FORMER STUDENTS ARE ELIGIBLE, INCLUDING THE FAMILIES OF ANYONE WHO HAS DIED SINCE NOVEMBER 2007.>>IT’S RECOGNITION THAT THIS DID HAPPEN.>>Reporter: THERE HAVE BEEN CRITICISMS ABOUT THE PROCESS, THE TIMING AND THE $55 MILLION GOING TO LAWYERS. BUT ANYONE WHO DOESN’T LIKE IT CAN STILL OPT OUT AND SUE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DIRECTLY.>>THIS IS ALWAYS THE FIRST STEP. THERE’S ALWAYS GOING TO BE CONCERNS TO MAKE THINGS BETTER.>>THIS IS ABOUT THEIR CHOICE IN HOW THEY GO FORWARD.>>Reporter: RAY MASON IS ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO LAUNCHED THIS FEDERAL DAY SCHOOL LAWSUIT MORE THAN A DECADE AGO. NOW HE’S TURNING HIS ATTENTION TO HUNDREDS OF DAY SCHOOLS RUN BY PROVINCES, CHURCHES AND SANATORIUMS.>>YOU KNOW, I DON’T GIVE UP UNTIL EVERYBODY — UNTIL MY JOB IS DONE.>>Reporter: BUT HE KNOWS THAT TIME IS TICKING. AN ESTIMATED 1,800 SURVIVORS DIE EVERY YEAR. AN ESTIMATED 1,800 SURVIVORS DIE EVERY YEAR. KAREN PAULS, CBC NEWS, WINNIPEG.>>Andrew: AND SOME OTHER STORIES THAT WE’RE FOLLOWING TONIGHT…>>>JUSTIN TRUDEAU WON’T SAY IF THE MAN KNOWN AS “JIHADI JACK” IS WELCOME IN CANADA.>>Reporter: SO YOU’RE NOT OPEN TO HIM COMING TO CANADA?>>Prime Minister Justin Trudeau: WE CONTINUE TO RECOGNIZE THAT IT IS A CRIME TO TRAVEL FOR THE PURPOSE OF ENGAGING IN TERRORIST ACTIVITIES.>>Andrew: JACK LETTS WAS A DUAL CITIZEN OF CANADA AND THE UNITED KINGDOM, BUT OVER THE WEEKEND BRITAIN REVOKED HIS CITIZENSHIP BECAUSE OF HIS ALLEGED SUPPORT FOR THE ISLAMIC STATE. TRUDEAU IS SET TO MEET WITH THE U.K. PRIME MINISTER BORIS JOHNSON AT THIS WEEKEND’S G7 SUMMIT WHERE THIS IS EXPECTED TO BE DISCUSSED.>>YEAH, PANTALEO, YOU MAY HAVE LOST YOUR JOB BUT I LOST A SON!>>Andrew: ERIC GARNER’S MOTHER REACTING TO THE FIRING OF DANIEL PANTALEO TODAY. HE’S THE OFFICER WHO IS ACCUSED OF USING A BANNED CHOKEHOLD ON HER SON IN 2014. THE DEATH OF THE 43-YEAR-OLD SPARKED A NATIONAL DEBATE OVER RACE AND THE USE OF FORCE IN ARRESTS. AND THE RECORDING OF HIS ARREST ALSO SPARKED YEARS OF PROTESTS.>>>TURNING NOW TO HONG KONG WHERE IT’S BEEN ANOTHER DAY OF RELATIVE CALM AND ORDER AFTER A WEEKEND FILLED WITH PROTESTS AGAINST MAINLAND CHINA.>>WE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THE PROTESTS WERE GENERALLY PEACEFUL SO THE POLICE DID NOT INTERVENE.>>Andrew: MEANWHILE CHINESE SECURITY FORCES CONTINUE TO RUN DRILLS JUST OUTSIDE OF THE CITY IN NEIGHBOURING SHENZHEN. BUT WHILE THE GOVERNMENT HASN’T MOVED PHYSICALLY AGAINST DEMONSTRATORS, IT SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN BUSY ONLINE. FACEBOOK AND TWITTER REPORT AN AGGRESSIVE CAMPAIGN TO STIR UP CHINESE NATIONALISTS AND ANTI-WESTERN SENTIMENT. BOTH PLATFORMS SAY THEY HAVE TAKEN DOWN MAINLAND-BASED ACCOUNTS FOR SPREADING DISINFORMATION, TWITTER IN PARTICULAR, WHICH ALREADY REMOVED ABOUT A THOUSAND ACCOUNTS. SAID IN A STATEMENT, “COVERT MANIPULATIVE BEHAVIOURS HAVE NO PLACE ON OUR SERVICE.” MANY WONDER IF BEIJING WILL EVENTUALLY CLAMPDOWN. MUCH OF THAT DEPENDS ON WHETHER THE DEMONSTRATIONS REMAIN PEACEFUL AND WHETHER THEY MAINTAIN POPULAR SUPPORT. WE HAVE A REPORTER ON THE GROUND THERE, CHRIS BROWN, AND HE TOOK ADVANTAGE OF A RELATIVELY QUIET DAY TO SEE WHAT PEOPLE IN HONG KONG THINK. (*)>>Reporter: WITH ALL OF THE TURMOIL IN HONG KONG LATELY, IT’S EASY TO FORGET THAT THERE ARE STILL MOMENTS OF ZEN. TODAY WE FOUND PEOPLE ON THEIR WAY HOME FROM WORK TAKING STOCK OF THE CITY’S MOMENTOUS EVENTS.>>I THINK THAT PEOPLE ARE QUITE UNITED.>>Reporter: BUT JO KEI WAS ALSO UNCERTAIN WHERE THE PRO-DEMOCRACY MOVEMENT IS HEADING.>>BUT IF YOU ASK ME IF IT WILL BE CHANGED, I FEEL QUITE NEGATIVE ABOUT THAT, YES.>>[CHANTING]>>Reporter: ONE THING THAT ORGANIZERS CAN’T BE DISAPPOINTED WITH WAS SUNDAY’S TURNOUT. FOR THE THIRD TIME IN LESS THAN THREE MONTHS MORE THAN A MILLION PEOPLE TOOK TO THE STREETS DEMANDING LESS INTERFERENCE FROM CHINA IN THE CITY’S AFFAIRS. HARDER TO EVALUATE IS WHETHER THE ONGOING RALLIES ARE GETTING THE PROTESTERS ANY CLOSER TO THEIR GOALS.>>I WANT TO PROTEST THEM.>>Reporter: ORGANIZER BONNIE LIENG HOPES THAT THE UNREST WILL BRING HONG KONG’S CHIEF EXECUTIVE TO THE BARGAINING TABLE.>>BECAUSE WHAT WE WANT IS NO MORE WEEKS OF PROTEST. WE WANT REAL RESULTS. SO A DIALOGUE HAS TO HAPPEN.>>Reporter: BUT CARRIE LAM AND HER BOSSES IN BEIJING HAVE SHOWN ZERO INCLINATION OF BENDING TO ANY OF THE DEMONSTRATORS’ DEMANDS. NO APOLOGY FROM POLICE FOR HEAVY-HANDED TACTICS, INCLUDING FIRING MORE THAN 2,000 ROUNDS OF TEAR GAS, A LOT OF IT WITHIN THE LAST WEEK. NO PUBLIC INQUIRY INTO POLICE ACTIONS AND CERTAINLY NO PROMISES ABOUT FUTURE LEGISLATION OR HOLDING FREE ELECTIONS FOR THE LEADER OF HONG KONG.>>WE ARE SEEING THE BEGINNING OF THE END.>>Reporter: THIS LONG-TIME ALLY OF CHINA’S GOVERNMENT TOLD US THAT HE BELIEVES THAT THE PROTESTS WILL FIZZLE. NO MATTER THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE ON THE STREETS, NOR THE LEVEL OF VIOLENCE, HE SAYS THAT BEIJING WOULD NEVER ALLOW PROTESTERS TO DICTATE WHO CONTROLS HONG KONG.>>EVENTUALLY THE DEADLOCK WILL DISAPPEAR BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WILL SEEK OTHER MEANS OF PUTTING PRESSURE ON THE GOVERNMENT AND ON BEIJING.>>Reporter: THOSE “OTHER MEANS” COULD BE RUNNING ANTI-BEIJING CANDIDATES IN UPCOMING MUNICIPAL ELECTIONS BUT PRO-DEMOCRACY ADVOCATES SAY THAT IGNORING THEM IS A RECIPE FOR MORE UNREST. ESPECIALLY FROM YOUNGER, MORE RADICALIZED PROTESTERS WHO ALREADY FEEL UNFAIRLY TARGETED BY POLICE. CHRIS BROWN, CBC NEWS, HONG KONG.>>Andrew: AND AHEAD TONIGHT…>>>THEY RISK THEIR LIVES TO SAVE A COMPLETE STRANGER, A YOUNG WOMAN WHO FELL OFF A DOCK, SINKING IN HER WHEELCHAIR. FIRST THOUGH…>>YOU CAN’T FORGIVE A PEDOPHILE IN MY VIEW IF YOU’RE A MEMBER OF THE ROYAL FAMILY.>>Andrew: THE NEW VIDEO OF PRINCE ANDREW RAISING NEW QUESTIONS ABOUT HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH JEFFREY EPSTEIN. (*) (*)>>Andrew: MORE FALLOUT TODAY IN THE WAKE OF JEFFREY EPSTEIN’S SUICIDE. U.S. PRISONS CHIEF HUGH HERITZ HAS BEEN REPLACED. KATHLEEN HAWK-SAWYER WILL TAKE HIS PLACE. SHE SERVED AS THE DIRECTOR OF PRISONS FROM 1993 TO 2003. EPSTEIN TOOK HIS OWN LIFE WIEM AWAITING TRIAL FOR SEX TRAFFICKING. GUARDS HAD NEGLECTED TO CHECK ON HIM FOR HOURS. IN THE U.K. LINKS TO EPSTEIN ARE CREATING A P.R. DISASTER FOR BUCKINGHAM PALACE. A NEWLY RELEASED VIDEO APPEARS TO SHOW PRINCE ANDREW AT EPSTEIN’S MANHATTAN HOME IN 2010, AND THAT’S AFTER THE DISGRACED FINANCIER HAD SERVED TIME FOR SEX CRIMES. MARGARET EVANS NOW WITH THE NEW QUESTIONS THAT IT’S RAISING.>>Reporter: THE QUEEN’S FAVOURITE, SO IT SAID, CAPTURED IN IMAGES THAT HAVE DRAWN THE WORLD’S GAZE BACK TO HIS FRIENDSHIP WITH A REGISTERED SEX OFFENDER. PRINCE ANDREW PEERS OUT OF JEFFREY EPSTEIN’S NEW YORK HOME IN 2010. YOUNG WOMEN AND EPSTEIN HIMSELF COMING AND GOING, TWO YEARS AFTER THE FORMER HEDGE FUND MANAGER WAS CONVICTED OF HAVING SEX WITH A MINOR IN A PLEA BARGAIN WIDELY CONDEMNED AT THE TIME AS HAVING BEEN TOO SOFT.>>WHAT ON EARTH IS THE QUEEN’S SON DOING, A ROYAL PRINCE.>>Reporter: ANDREW PIERCE IS A JOURNALIST WITH “THE DAILY MAIL.” ITS SISTER PAPER FIRST PUBLISHED THE VIDEO.>>HE SHOULDN’T HAVE BEEN THERE AND HE SHOULDN’T HAVE TAKEN ANY PHONE CALLS FROM THAT MAN. YOU CAN’T FORGIVE A PEDOPHILE IN MY VIEW IF YOU’RE A MEMBER OF THE ROYAL FAMILY.>>Reporter: EPSTEIN WAS FOUND DEAD IN A NEW YORK JAIL CELL IN AN APPARENT SUICIDE EARLIER THIS MONTH WHILE AWAITING TRIAL ON CHARGES OF TRAFFICKING UNDERAGED GIRLS. QUESTIONS ABOUT HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH PRINCE ANDREW DATE BACK TO THIS 2001 PHOTO, SHOWING A THEN 17-YEAR-OLD GIRL WITH THE PRINCE AT AN EPSTEIN PARTY. HER CLAIMS THAT SHE WAS FORCED TO HAVE SEX WITH THE ROYAL WERE DISMISSED BY A U.S. JUDGE. THE TIES BETWEEN THE TWO MEN THOUGH HAVE BEEN A RECURRING OBJECT OF SPECULATION OVER THE YEARS. EPSTEIN EVEN HELPING BAIL ANDREW’S EX-WIFE SARAH FERGUSON, THE DUCHESS OF YORK, OUT OF DEBT. FOR THE ROYAL FAMILY IT’S A P.R. NIGHTMARE. TODAY BUCKINGHAM PALACE ISSUED A STATEMENT ON PRINCE ANDREW’S BEHALF. IT SAID, QUOTE “HIS ROYAL HIGHNESS DEPLORES THE EXPLOITATION OF ANY HUMAN BEING, AND THE SUGGESTION THAT HE WOULD CONDONE, PARTICIPATE IN, OR ENCOURAGE ANY SUCH BEHAVIOUR IS ABHORRENT.” BUT IT IS CALLED THE JUDGMENT OF THE QUEEN’S SECOND SON INTO QUESTION YET AGAIN.>>THIS ISN’T GOING AWAY FOR ONE MINUTE. AND, OF COURSE, WE STILL DON’T KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE UNITED STATES. THE GIRLS WHO CLAIM THEY’RE ABUSED BY EPSTEIN, JUST BECAUSE THEY’RE DEAD THEY’LL PROBABLY SUE HIS ESTATE AND THERE WILL BE SMOKING GUNS IN DOCUMENTS WHICH HE’S GOING TO HAVE TO ANSWER.>>Reporter: SMALL COMFORT TO THE INSTITUTION THEY REFER TO HERE AS “THE FIRM.” MARGARET EVANS, CBC NEWS, LONDON.>>Andrew: AND UP NEXT…>>>PAUL HUNTER TAKES US TO THE U.S.-MEXICO BORDER, ABOVE GROUND AND BELOW IT.>>IT’S ALL BELLY CRAWL AND IT’S ALL VERY SMALL. IF WE GET ONE THAT WE CAN CRAWL ON OUR HANDS AND KNEES ON IT’S A LUXURY.>>Andrew: UPCLOSE WITH BORDER (*)>>Andrew: DONALD TRUMP’S SIGNATURE PROMISE OF A U.S.-MEXICO BORDER WALL IS MOSTLY STILL JUST A PROMISE. THIS WEEK A COURT CHALLENGE DELAYED CONSTRUCTION OF ABOUT 60 KILOMETRES OF WALL IN ARIZONA, AND ABOUT 20 KILOMETRES OF EXISTING WALL WAS UPGRADED LAST WEEK IN CALIFORNIA. AS FOR NEW FENCING THOUGH SINCE TRUMP TOOK OFFICE, THERE’S ABOUT 80 KILOMETRES TO SPEAK OF SO FAR. THAT LEAVES AT LEAST 2,000 KILOMETRES TO GO. UNDER TRUMP THOUGH A POLITICAL WALL DIVIDING AMERICANS OVER IMMIGRATION SEEMS TALLER THAN EVER AS A HUMANITARIAN BORDER CRISIS FESTERS, RHETORIC INTENSIFIES, AND ILLEGAL CROSSINGS SURGE. EARLIER THIS YEAR PAUL HUNTER WENT TO GET A FIRSTHAND LOOK AT WHAT THE REALLY MEANS AT A PLACE WHERE PERHAPS IT MATTERS MOST. (*) WHERE PERHAPS IT MATTERS MOST. (*)>>Reporter: IN THE SMALL ARIZONA BORDER TOWN OF NOGALES, FINDING THE BORDER IS SIMPLE. JUST LOOK FOR THE BIG BROWN FENCE AND THE RAZOR WIRE. IT CUTS THROUGH THE TOWN, DIVIDING THE U.S. FROM MEXICO. AND IN THE YEARS OF DONALD TRUMP IT’S COME TO SYMBOLIZE AMERICA’S COMPLICATED APPROACH TO ITS IMMIGRATION CHALLENGES. EQUALLY EASY TO SPOT, EVIDENCE THAT THERE’S NO EASY SOLUTION — WALL OR NO WALL. THIS MAN, AN ALLEGED UNDOCUMENTED MIGRANT, WAS CAUGHT AND DETAINED BY U.S. BORDER PATROL AGENTS JUST AS WE HAPPENED TO BE PASSING BY. AND HE WOULDN’T BE THE ONLY MIGRANT DETAINED BY AUTHORITIES ON THIS DAY IN THE TOWN.>>I WOULD BE AMAZED IF WE’RE NOT BEING WATCHED RIGHT NOW.>>THIS IS THE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE DEALT WITH DOWN>>THIS IS THE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE DEALT WITH DOWN HERE. THE SMUGGLERS WILL SIT ON THIS HILL AND THEY WILL — AS I SAID — GUIDE PEOPLE WITH CELLPHONES.>>Reporter: U.S. BORDER PATROL AGENT JAKE STUKENBERG HAS PRETTY MUCH SEEN IT ALL. HE AGREED TO SPEND A DAY WITH CBC NEWS TO SHOW US FIRSTHAND THE PROBLEM THAT NEITHER HIS FELLOW AGENTS, NOR POLITICIANS, NOR THAT BORDER WALL, SEEM ABLE TO SOLVE.>>IT IS LITERALLY SECONDS FROM THE TIME THAT SOMEONE JUMPS OVER THAT, YOU KNOW, COMES OVER THAT FENCE RIGHT THERE, AND PUTS THEIR FEET ON AMERICAN SOIL AND RUNS UP TO THESE AREAS OVER HERE, THIS RECYCLING CENTRE AND THE JUNKYARD. THERE’S A MILLION HIDING PLACES IN HERE. SO THERE’S LITERALLY 30 SECONDS BEFORE THEY COULD BE IN A HIDING PLACE AND GOOD LUCK FINDING THEM AFTER THAT.>>Reporter: THE WALL, OR SOME VERSION OF IT, HAS BEEN IN PLACE IN THIS PART OF AMERICA FOR YEARS. THE RAZOR WIRE? COURTESY OF THE CURRENT U.S. PRESIDENT IS NEW. IT WAS UNCOILED HERE JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO. IT’S AS SHARP AS YOU MIGHT IMAGINE AND OFFERS EVIDENCE THAT IT’S BEEN PUT TO THE TEST ALREADY. SEE THAT? THEY CALL THEM “CUTS,” GAPS IN THE RAZOR WIRE, CUT BY MIGRANTS.>>SO THIS IS ONE SIDE WHERE THEY CUT IT. YOU CAN OBVIOUSLY SEE THAT THEY DIDN’T CUT THE LAST STRAND DOWN HERE SO THAT WAS EFFECTIVE. BUT IF YOU GO TO THE LEFT YOU’LL SEE A LARGE AREA –>>Reporter: HOLY COW, LOOK AT THIS. WITH THE RIGHT TOOLS AND SOME DETERMINATION IT BECOMES A CLEAR PATHWAY OVER THE TOP. SAYS STUKENBERG, THE WALL SLOWS DOWN ILLEGAL CROSSERS BUT ALSO UNDERLINES THAT IT DOESN’T STOP THEM. AND EVIDENCE OF THAT IS EVERYWHERE. FROM DISCARDED WATER BOTTLES DUMPED AT THE LAST MOMENT, TO HAND PRINTS LEFT BEHIND ON THE FENCING ITSELF. AND EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE CAMERAS THROUGHOUT THE AREA, NOT TO MENTION PATROLS FROM ABOVE, THE FACT IS THAT ILLEGAL BORDER CROSSINGS HERE HAPPEN ALMOST ALL THE TIME. BORDER AGENTS IN THIS DISTRICT ALONE WE’RE TOLD CATCH AND DETAIN ABOUT A THOUSAND UNDOCUMENTED MIGRANTS EVERY WEEK. (*) YOU’VE SEEN THE IMAGES OF MIGRANTS FLEEING STRIFE IN CENTRAL AMERICA, HOPING FOR A BETTER LIFE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT WALL. THEY TYPICALLY SEEK OUT AGENTS TO CLAIM ASYLUM ONCE INSIDE THE U.S. THEIR FATE THEN A COMPLICATED POLITICALLY CHARGED CHALLENGE UNTO ITSELF. SOME OF THOSE WHO CROSS HERE ARE LIKE THAT. BUT BORDER PATROL AGENTS WE MET POINT TO THE DRUG TRADE AND MIGRANTS MAKING NO CLAIM FOR ASYLUM AS A KEY PART OF THEIR CHALLENGE.>>I’M SPOTTING A SCOUT RIGHT NOW ON THE SOUTHSIDE UNDER A TREE, TWO OF THEM.>>Reporter: WHERE?>>STRAIGHT — SEE THAT VALLEY, HALFWAY UP THERE’S TWO PEOPLE WALKING — THREE PEOPLE. SEE THEM? WE’LL GET OUT. THOSE ARE SMUGGLERS OR PEOPLE BEING SMUGGLED. OR POSSIBLY A SMUGGLER THAT IS BEING SMUGGLED IN. THEY MIGHT BE ON TO US WATCHING THEM.>>Reporter: THE THREE SOON DISAPPEAR INTO A GULLY. BUT ALMOST IMMEDIATELY AGENTS NEARBY SIGNAL OTHER SUSPECTED NEARBY SIGNAL OTHER SUSPECTED SMUGGLERS IN A CAR CHASE ACROSS TOWN.>>BE THERE IN A SECOND.>>Reporter: RACING ACROSS NOGALES, READY TO STEP IN IF NEEDED.>>SOUNDS LIKE POTENTIALLY SEVERAL UNDOCUMENTED INDIVIDUALS. AND THE VEHICLE STARTED DRIVING OFF AND THE AGENTS GOT BEHIND THE VEHICLE AND EVERYBODY BAILED OUT OF THE VEHICLE. THEY’RE RUNNING RIGHT NOW.>>Reporter: STUKENBERG TOLD US THAT SMUGGLERS OFTEN SHOW THEMSELVES AT THE WALL TO DIVERT ATTENTION FROM OTHERS ELSEWHERE, KNOWING THAT THERE’S ONLY SO MANY AGENTS ON PATROL.>>OBVIOUSLY BAILED OUT OF THE VEHICLE SO I THINK THAT THEY’RE RUNNING INTO THE DESERT.>>Reporter: IN THIS CASE BY THE TIME WE ARRIVE A SUSPECTED HUMAN SMUGGLER WAS CAUGHT AND OTHERS WITH HIM STILL ON THE RUN OUT THERE SOMEWHERE AS WE DROVE BY.>>WE GOT AGENTS OUT THERE ON FOOT AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE’S A POSSIBLE CANINE OUT THERE.>>Reporter: BEFORE THE DAY IS DONE, AGENTS WOULD CATCH AND DETAIN MORE THAN 150 SUSPECTED MIGRANTS IN STUKENBERG’S AREA ALONE. BY THE WAY, IF YOU THINK THAT ILLEGAL CROSSINGS HAPPEN ONLY OVER THE BORDER, CONSIDER WHAT GOES ON UNDERNEATH IT. THAT’S KEVIN HECHT WHO TOOK US INTO A BORDER PATROL TRAINING TUNNEL, DEEP ENOUGH UNDERGROUND TO GET A SENSE OF HOW DARK AND CRAMPED SMUGGLING TUNNELS CAN BE. THIS ONE IS MEANT TO MIMIC A SMALL DRAINAGE PIPE SMUGGLERS OFTEN MAKE USE OF.>>WE MAKE SURE THAT OUR AGENTS ESPECIALLY IN THIS STATION IN NOGALES, ARE TRAINED TO BE IN THESE PIPES TO CLEAR AND CHECK THEM. SO AT LEAST PEOPLE DON’T HAVE FREE REIN TO CRAWL UNDERGROUND IN AN UNDERGROUND ENVIRONMENT.>>Reporter: SMUGGLERS WILL DIG TOWARDS THE TUNNELS AND CUT INTO THEM AND SHIMMY INTO AMERICA. THIS HAND DUG TUNNEL WAS FOUND IN NOGALES JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO. IT WAS VIDEOTAPED AND THEN DESTROYED BY AUTHORITIES. TUNNELS OF THIS SIZE WE TOLD ARE USED MOSTLY FOR DRUGS, THESE DAYS TYPICALLY FENTANYL. THE TUNNELS ARE TOO SMALL FOR HUMAN SMUGGLING.>>IT’S ALL BELLY CRAWL. THEY’RE ALL VERY SMALL. IF WE GET ONE THAT WE CAN CRAWL ON OUR HANDS AND KNEES IN, IT’S A LUXURY. USUALLY YOU’RE PUSHING WITH YOUR FINGERTIPS AND TOES AND YOU’RE VERY TIGHT.>>Reporter: TO UNDERLINE THAT, HECHT TAKES US FURTHER IN, EXPLAINING WHAT THEY LOOK FOR, CUTS AND HIDDEN PASSAGEWAYS FROM THOSE OTHER TUNNELS DUG BY HAND.>>SO YOU HAVE TO GO TO LOOK FOR THE PIPE AND LOOK FOR A CHANGE IN THE PIPE. AND THIS WILL POP OUT, AND BEHIND IT WILL BE AN ILLICIT TUNNEL THAT YOU CAN CRAWL THROUGH. THAT’S TO CROSS THE BORDER. SO THAT’S WHAT THEY CALL INTERCONNECTING. ONCE YOU’RE IN THIS PIPE AND ON THE U.S. SIDE OF THE BORDER WHY DIG WHEN YOU HAVE THIS?>>Reporter: AND THEN THERE’S THIS PLACE. UNDERNEATH DOWNTOWN NOGALES, A WATER DRAINAGE TUNNEL THAT CROSSES THE BORDER RIGHT UNDERNEATH IT. HOW FAR DOWN THERE IS MEXICO?>>YOU’RE AT THE BORDER.>>Reporter: THIS IS THE BORDER? THE GATE, NOW LOCKED IN PLACE AND ON THE U.S. SIDE OF THE BORDER DOES ITS JOB. THE SMUGGLING AND OTHER CRIME THAT USED TO HAPPEN HERE HAS ENDED.>>RAPES, STABBINGS, DRUG SMUGGLING, PEOPLE SMUGGLING, YOU NAME IT. THERE WAS A WHOLE SEPARATE CITY UNDERGROUND. WE HAVEN’T HAD ANY BREACHES OR ANY ATTEMPTS TO BREACH IN A LONG, LONG TIME. AND I’M SAYING MANY YEARS SINCE WE PUT THESE GATES IN.>>Reporter: BACK ON TOP, AND FURTHER WEST, THE WALL, AS IT DOES IN SO MANY PLACES ALONG THE BORDER, JUST KIND OF ENDS, LEAVING SIGNIFICANTLY LESS OF A BARRIER. SO THIS DOESN’T STOP PEOPLE FROM COMING ACROSS THOUGH, DOES IT?>>ABSOLUTELY NOT.>>Reporter: IT’S NOT HARD?>>NO. WELL, OBVIOUSLY, WE’RE STILL IN THE UNITED STATES. BUT THIS IS WHERE OUR INFRASTRUCTURE ENDS. SO FROM HERE ON, FOR SEVERAL MILES, OVER THOSE MOUNTAINS AND BEYOND, THIS IS WHAT IS IT, BARBED WIRE.>>Reporter: STUKENBERG DOESN’T HIDE THE FACT THAT HE’S PRO-WALL. POLICY, HE SAYS, IS FOR POLITICIANS TO SET, BUT A WALL HE SAYS AT LEAST SLOWS DOWN THOSE WHO TRY TO CROSS. IF ONLY BRIEFLY.>>WE KNOW THAT IF YOU BUILD A HUNDRED FOOT WALL THEY’LL BRING A 101-FOOT LADDER, WE KNOW THAT. BUT THAT GIVES US SITUATIONAL AWARENESS THAT INCURSION IS HAPPENING. IF WE SEE AN INCURSION HAPPENING WE HAVE A VERY GOOD CHANCE THAT WE’LL EITHER DETER THOSE INDIVIDUALS BACK TO MEXICO OR MAKE AN APPREHENSION.>>Reporter: SHORT ANSWER, IF YOU WANT A SECURE BORDER — QUESTION FOR THE COUNTRY — BUILD A WALL?>>GIVE US THE TOOLS NECESSARY TO DO OUR JOB. (*)>>Reporter: BUT EVEN TRUMP SUPPORTERS UNDERLINE A WALL UNTO ITSELF IS NOT ENOUGH.>>THIS IS ONE LITTLE HERD THAT HANGS OUT DOWN HERE.>>Reporter: ARIZONA RANCHER JOHN LADD CALLS THE BORDER WALL “A SPEED BUMP.” HE FIGURES THAT OVER THE YEARS HE’S SEEN TENS OF THOUSANDS OF MIGRANTS CROSSING INTO HIS PROPERTY ILLEGALLY EVEN THOUGH THE SOUTH END OF HIS RANCH SITS A WALL WITH EXTRA RAZOR WIRE.>>WELL, THAT’S A DOGGIE DOOR FIX RIGHT THERE. AND YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE COMING THROUGH, THAT’S WHAT WE CALL THEM — DOGGIE DOORS.>>Reporter: DOGGIE DOORS ARE CUT IN A LESS FORTIFIED PART OF THE FENCE MADE BY MIGRANTS, SOMETIMES SMALL, SOMETIMES NOT SO SMALL. SOME FOR PEOPLE, SOME FOR DRUGS. FULL-SIZED TRUCKS ROLL THROUGH HERE?>>YEAH, FULL OF MARIJUANA.>>Reporter: THE DRUG TRADE HERE HAS SLOWED IN RECENT YEARS, BUT SAYS LADD ONLY WHEN HE CONVINCED LOCAL AUTHORITIES TO HELP BORDER AGENTS TO PUSH BACK AGAINST IT. HE TELLS US THAT A MEXICAN CARTEL OWNS ONE OF THE RANCHES JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF HIS. AND EVEN WHILE DRUG SMUGGLING HAS EASED –>>BUT THE PEOPLE CONTINUE. I’D SAY RIGHT NOW THEY’RE CATCHING 50 A WEEK ON US.>>Reporter: JUST ON YOUR LAND?>>YEAH.>>Reporter: LADD LIKES TRUMP’S STAND ON THE WALL AND IMMIGRATION. YES, IT’S ALL STILL UNRESOLVED, BUT LADD BLAMES THAT NOT ON TRUMP BUT ON IN-FIGHTING AMONG THE POLITICIANS BROADLY.>>I HAVE ZERO CONFIDENCE IN WASHINGTON RIGHT NOW. EVEN THERE’S PROBABLY 20 PEOPLE BACK THERE THAT UNDERSTAND IT. BUT THAT ISN’T ENOUGH. THEY’RE NOT SUPPORTING ANYTHING ON THE BORDER. (*)>>Reporter: INDEED, THE DIVIDE IN THIS COUNTRY ON WHAT TO DO ABOUT ANY OF IT RUNS DEEP. EAST OF NOGALES AT ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE PLACES WHERE THE WALL JUST STOPS AMID THE EMPTIED WATER BOTTLES AND THE DISCARDED CLOTHING — SOME CAUGHT IN THE RAZOR WIRE — BOTTLES OF FRESH WATER AND AS WELL TOOTHPASTE AND TOOTHBRUSHES, ALL LEFT FOR THOSE IN NEED. JANE STOREY COMES BY REGULARLY TO CHECK THAT EVERYTHING IS IN GOOD SUPPLY.>>WE COME OUT IN THE DESERT AND IF WE FIND AN IMMIGRANT THAT NEEDS HELP WE GIVE THEM FOOD, WATER AND GIVE THEM MEDICAL CARE.>>Reporter: HER SPECIFIC CONCERN? THAT IN CHASING THE BAD GUYS THAT THE AUTHORITIES GO TOO HARD ON THOSE SIMPLY SEEKING ASYLUM.>>I HATE THIS WHOLE — THEY’RE NOT DRUG DEALERS. I MEAN, YES THERE COULD BE, BUT THESE ARE DESPERATE, DESPERATE PEOPLE, WHO CANNOT MAKE A LIVING IN THEIR COUNTRY.>>Reporter: WHICH BRINGS US BACK TO THE BORDER PATROL. JAKE STUKENBERG SAYS HE TAKES NO JOY IN APPREHENDING MIGRANTS, WHATEVER LED THEM HERE. AND LIKE SO MANY IN AMERICA, HE HAS NO PERFECT ANSWER TO THE BORDER’S CHALLENGES.>>IF I HAD THE MAGIC WAND, VERY SIMPLE — I WOULD ELIMINATE THE CARTELS. ELIMINATE THE CARTELS FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH. WHAT HAPPENS THEN? YOU GET RID OF THE NUMBER ONE FACILITATOR FOR NARCOTICS INTO OUR COUNTRY. AND YOU GET RID OF THE NUMBER ONE FACILITATOR FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. YOU GET RID OF THE NUMBER ONE FACILITATOR OF CORRUPTION IN OTHER COUNTRIES. IF I COULD DO ONE THING TO MAKE THIS WORLD A BETTER PLACE AND GETTING RID OF THE IMMIGRATION PROBLEM RIGHT HERE IT WOULD BE TO GET RID OF THE CARTELS.>>Reporter: UNTIL THEN HE SAYS, HE’S JUST DOING HIS JOB. AND AS NIGHT FALLS IN ARIZONA, THE SEEMINGLY UNENDING PATROLS CONTINUE. PAUL HUNTER, CBC NEWS, OUTSIDE OF NOGALES, ARIZONA.>>Andrew: NEXT ON “THE NATIONAL,” SOME SAY THAT IT’S TERRIFYING, CREEPY, EVEN NIGHTMARISH. THE STORY BEHIND THIS GIANT HAND. BUT FIRST…>>YOU COULD SEE HIS SHARP LITTLE TEETH.>>Andrew: FIGHTING A DEADLY INFECTION KILLING MILLIONS OF BATS ACROSS NORTH AMERICA. THAT’S RIGHT AFTER THE BREAK. (*)>>I’M JAYME POISSON, AND TOMORROW ON CBC’S DAILY NEWS PODCAST “FRONTBURNER,” HOW ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS ARE WORRIED THAT ELECTIONS CANADA IS MUZZLING THEM RIGHT BEFORE A NATIONAL ELECTION THAT BLEW UP OVER THE LAST FEW DAYS. WE GET TO THE BOTTOM OF IT. SUBSCRIBE WHEREVER YOU GET YOUR PODCASTS. (*)>>Andrew: WELCOME BACK. A WILDFIRE IS STILL BURNING OUT OF CONTROL IN SPAIN. ABOUT 9,000 PEOPLE HAVE FLED THE ISLAND OF GRAN CANARIA. SO FAR THE BLAZE IS MAINLY IN THE MOUNTAINOUS PART OF THE ISLAND BUT TONIGHT THE FLAMES REACHED A NATURAL PARK THAT IS HOME TO SOME OF THE ISLAND’S OLDEST PINE FORESTS. MORE THAN 700 FIREFIGHTERS ARE WORKING TO CONTAIN THE FIRE.>>>A FAULTY FUEL VALVE IS BLAMED FOR AN OIL SPILL AT NEWFOUNDLAND’S HIBERNIA PLATFORM. THE MALFUNCTION YESTERDAY SET OFF A CHAIN REACTION THAT OVERFLOWED THE PLATFORM’S WASTE DRAINAGE SYSTEM AND SPILLING 2,200 LITRES OF OIL INTO THE OCEAN. AND REGULATORS SAY THEY ARE SEARCHING FOR LINKS FOR ANOTHER SPILL AT THE PLATFORM JUST LAST MONTH.>>>AND ONE OF CANADA’S TOP MEDAL CONTENDERS IN NEXT YEAR’S OLYMPICS HAS BEEN TEMPORARY SUSPENDED FOR A DOPING VIOLATION. LAURENCE VINCENT-LaPOINTE RECENTLY TESTED POSITIVE, AND SO WILL NOT TAKE PART IN THIS WEEK’S WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS IN HUNGARY. NOW VINCENT-LaPOINTE INSISTS THAT SHE’S DONE NOTHING WRONG AND CANOE KAYAK CANADA SAY THEY’RE BEHIND HER AND SUGGESTING THAT SHE MAY HAVE UNKNOWINGLY USED A PROHIBITED SUBSTANCE.>>OKAY, NOW TO A DEADLY FUNGUS TARGETING BATS. THEY ARE A VITAL PART OF THE ECOSYSTEM AND THEY’RE IN BIG TROUBLE ACROSS NORTH AMERICA. WHITE-NOSE SYNDROME STARTED IN THE EAST AND IS RAPIDLY SPREADING WEST, BUT AS GREG RASMUSSEN SHOWS US, A NEW EXPERIMENT HOPES TO STOP THE DISEASE FROM HITTING BRITISH COLUMBIA.>>Reporter: FOR LEAH RENSELL THERE’S NOTHING BETTER THAN DIPPING YOUR HANDS INTO A BIN FULL OF ANGRY BATS.>>THIS COLONY I THINK HAS UPWARDS OF 700 LITTLE BATS ALL IN THESE BOXES. YOU CAN SEE THE SHARP LITTLE TEETH. THEY’RE SO TINY. IF HE BITES ME IT CAN’T EVEN BREAK THE SKIN.>>Reporter: DESPITE THE OCCUPATIONAL HAZARDS, RESEARCH ARES ARE TRYING TO SAVE THESE BATS IN BRITISH COLUMBIA FROM A DISEASE WIPING OUT COLONIES ACROSS NORTH AMERICA, KILLING BATS BY THE MILLION.>>WHITE-NOSE SYNDROME IS BEING TOUTED AS THE MOST CATASTROPHIC WILDLIFE DISEASE TO HIT NORTH AMERICA IN RECORDED HISTORY.>>Reporter: IT’S CAUSED BY A FUNGUS THAT SLOWLY WEAKENS THE ANIMALS UNTIL THEY DIE OF STARVATION. LOSING THEM HAS CONSEQUENCES BECAUSE BATS PLAY A VITAL ROLE IN TEST MANAGEMENT, SOME EATING UP TO A THOUSAND INSECTS EVERY HOUR.>>THEY’RE OUT CLEANING UP THINGS IN GARDENS, RIGHT, CROPS, FORESTS. IF WE DON’T HAVE BATS AND OUR NATURAL PREDATOR IS GONE FROM THE NIGHT SKIES, THAN PESTICIDE USE WILL RISE.>>WELL, LET’S GET THIS ONE DONE.>>Reporter: SCIENTISTS DON’T YET KNOW THE LONG-TERM IMPACT ON THE ECOSYSTEM OF SUCH A DRASTIC DECLINE. TO PREVENT THE DISEASE FROM HITTING BRITISH COLUMBIA, A LARGE NEW EXPERIMENT HAS BEEN LAUNCHED.>>WHITE-NOSE PREVENTION ON THE WAY.>>Reporter: BAT HOUSES ARE BEING SPRAYED WITH A NATURALLY OCCURRING BACTERIA THAT INHIBITS THE DEADLY FUNGUS.>>I HAVE A LOT OF HOPE THAT THIS IS GOING TO WORK.>>Reporter: NICK FONTAINE HELPED TO ISOLATE AND TEST STRAINS OF BACTERIA THAT SHOW PROMISE IN PROTECTING THE BATS.>>TO ACTUALLY MAKE AN IMPACT ON PREVENTING BATS FROM ACTUALLY GOING EXTINCT OR DYING FROM THE MILLIONS, IT’S AMAZING.>>Reporter: THE HOPE IS THAT THESE BATS WILL SPREAD THE HELPFUL BACTERIA TO OTHERS AS THEY MIGRATE AND MATE, INOCULATING THEM AGAINST THE FUNGUS.>>THIS IS THE FIRST ONE THAT WE DID HERE.>>Reporter: TESTING THE THEORY IS A LOT OF WORK, BAGGING, TAGGING, SWABBING HUNDREDS OF BATS, LOOKING FOR THE DISEASE AND LATER TO FIND OUT IF THE TREATMENT WORKS.>>BATS ARE PARTICULARLY COOL. SO THE COOL THING ABOUT THESE GUYS’ WINGS…>>Reporter: ENTHUSIASTIC BUT FEARFUL, RENSEL WORRIES THAT IF IT CAN’T BE STOPPED, WHITE-NOSE WILL DECIMATE THESE B.C. BATS.>>IF WE SAW THE SAME CATASTROPHIC CRASHES LIKE ELSEWHERE IN NORTH AMERICA IT WOULD HAVE LONG-LASTING CONSEQUENCES FOR OUR ECOSYSTEM.>>Reporter: OVERALL THIS PROGRAMME WILL COST SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, WITH UNIVERSITIES AND WILDLIFE CONSERVATION GROUPS AND VOLUNTEERS.>>RIGHT NOW EVERYTHING IS GOING VERY SMOOTHLY. WE’RE EXCITE EXCITED. BUT WE WON’T REALLY KNOW HOW WELL THINGS HAVE PERFORMED UNTIL NEXT SUMMER.>>Reporter: HIGH HOPES FOR A PROJECT DESIGNED TO SAVE THESE CREATURES OF THE NIGHT FROM A DEADLY DISEASE.>>GET YOUR BAT BACK.>>Reporter: GREG RASMUSSEN, CBC NEWS, PORT COQUITLAM, B.C.>>Andrew: AND “THE MOMENT” IS UP NEXT ON “THE NATIONAL.” BUT FIRST… (*) “IN CASE YOU MISSED IT,” ART IS SUBJECTIVE. FROM MICHELANGELO’S “DAVID” TO “THE BALLERINA CLOWN,” TO MOOSE JAW’S MAC THE MOOSE, ONE PERSON’S BEAUTY IS ANOTHER PERSON’S BEAST. BUT THEN THERE’S “QUASI” WHO INHABITS A STRANGE AND SOME MIGHT SAY A DEEPLY UNNERVING PLACE IN BETWEEN. IT’S BY NEW ZEALAND ARTIST RONNIE VAN HOUT. THE WORK HAS SPENT YEARS LOOMING OVER THE CHRISTCHURCH CITY GALLERY BUT NOW QUASI IS OVER TOP OF HIS NEW HOME IN WELLINGTON, THAT’S THE COUNTRY’S CAPITAL. AND THAT QUICKLY STIRRED UP ALL KIEWNDS OF EMOTIONS FROM DELIGHT TO DISGUST TO ABJECT HORROR. SO WHAT IS QUASI EXACTLY? WELL, IT’S A PARTIAL SELF-PORTRAIT, A COMBINATION OF 3D SCANS THAT VAN HOUT MADE OF HIMSELF — ONE OF HIS FACE, ONE OF HIS OWN HAND. HE CALLS IT A CHEEKY PLAY ON THE IDEA THAT THE HAND IS THE ARTIST’S TRUE SOURCE OF GENIUS — WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT BE TRUE. BUT, IF NOTHING ELSE, IT CERTAINLY IS A CHEEKY WAY TO TRIGGER A DEBATE ON PUBLIC ART. (*>>Andrew: WELL, FOR THOSE ON VACATION LIFE CAN BE PRETTY PEACEFUL IN THE U.S. VIRGIN ISLANDS. BUT LAST WEEK PANIC HIT THE AIR AFTER A PASSENGER PLUNGED OFF THE DOCK, HER WHEELCHAIR PULLING HER UNDERWATER. TWO LOCALS WHO WERE WELCOMING TOURISTS SAW IT HAPPEN, AND ONE OF THEM SELFLESSLY SPRANG INTO ACTION. BUT THAT’S WHEN THINGS GOT COMPLICATED. IT’S TONIGHT’S “MOMENT.” (*)>>THAT DAY, THE DAY THAT THIS HAPPENED, WE JUST HEARD A LOT OF NOISE. I HEARD A LOT OF SCREAMING AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO I RAN PAST THE SECURITY GATE AND I LOOKED OVER THE DOCK AND I SEE THIS LADY IN THE WATER IN THE WHEELCHAIR. AND IT MADE ME JUMP RIGHT INTO THE WATER.>>YOU COULD LOOK AT HIS FACE AND YOU CAN SEE THAT HE’S GOING, I CAN’T GO NO MORE, I CAN’T GO NO MORE. AND I’M NOT GOING TO LOSE MY FRIEND. SO I JUMP IN THE WATER AND I SWIM UP TO THEM AND I GOT BOTH OF THEM ABOVE THE WATER.>>AND YOU SEE THAT I WAS SCARED AND I WAS STILL SHOCKED. IT’S NICE, WE’RE GETTING A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM FAMILY AND FRIENDS FROM AROUND THE WORLD. AND WE SAVED A LIFE AND I FEEL SPECIAL. [Applause]>>I AM GLAD THAT WE WERE THERE BECAUSE AT ANY MOMENT IT COULD HAVE WENT LEFT. AND IT COULD HAVE BEEN THREE LIVES INSTEAD OF ONE.>>Andrew: INCREDIBLE, THEY INDEED SAVED A LIFE THAT DAY. AND BETTER THAN THAT, THE WOMAN IS UNHURT AND SHE’S DOING PRETTY WELL. AND JUST THINK ABOUT THAT FIRST GUY WHO JUMPED IN THE WATER. HE JUMPED IN FULLY CLOTHED WITH HIS SHOES ON. I CAN TELL THAT YOU IT’S NOT EASY TO SWIM WITH YOUR SHOES ON. SO GOOD FOR HIM FOR KEEPING HIMSELF AFLOAT AND KEEPING HER AFLOAT AS WELL. THAT’S “THE NATIONAL” FOR THIS AUGUST 19th. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. (*)

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