The National for August 9, 2019 — Canadian Released from Syria, Toronto Gun Violence


[ * ]>>Ian: TONIGHT, ESCAPING SYRIA.>>I DIDN’T KNOW IF ANYONE KNEW I WAS ALIVE.>>Ian: A B.C. MAN DETAINED FOR EIGHT MONTHS IS FREE. WHY SOME STILL RISK TRAVELLING IN A WAR ZONE.>>>IT REALLY DOES NOT FEEL LIKE A SAFE CITY. WE’RE TERRIFIED TO LET OUR SURVIVING CHILDREN OUT.>>Ian: ANOTHER DEADLY DAY IF TORONTO. NEARLY TWO DOZEN SHOOTINGS IN ONE WEEK. ARE TOO MANY REPEAT OFFENDERS ON THE STREETS?>>>THE PANIC WAS STARTING TO SET IN.>>Ian: TWO FIVE-YEAR-OLDS ADRIFT AT SEA FOR NEARLY AN HOUR. THEIR INCREDIBLE RESCUE IS OUR “MOMENT”. THIS IS “THE NATIONAL”.>>Ian: A B.C. MAN IS SAVOURING HIS FREEDOM AFTER BEING DETAINED IN SYRIA SINCE LAST YEAR. KRISTIAN BAXTER WAS A WORLD TRAVELLER. A FRIEND DESCRIBED HIM AS CURIOUS AND ALSO AS FOOLISH WHEN HE CROSSED INTO THE WAR TORN COUNTRY LAST NOVEMBER. HE IGNORED WARNINGS NOT TO TRAVEL THERE AND THEN DISAPPEARED. THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT SAID THERE WAS LITTLE THEY COULD DO TO HELP. GREG RASMUSSEN NOW.>>THANK YOU FOR HELPING ME GET OUT.>>Reporter: KRISTIAN BAXTER WAS CLEARLY STUNNED AS HE MADE A BRIEF STATEMENT IN BEIRUT, FLANKED BY ABBAS IBRAHIM, WHO HELPED OBTAIN HIS RELEASE.>>THE LEBANESE FOR HELPING ME GET FREE. I THOUGHT I WOULD BE THERE FOREVER.>>Reporter: THAT WAS ALL BAXTER COULD MANAGE, REVEALING NO DETAILS OF HIS ORDEAL. CANADA’S FOREIGN AFFAIRS MINISTER CHRYSTIA FREELAND HAD LITTLE TO SAY ABOUT BAXTER’S DETENTION LAST YEAR OR RELEASE TODAY.>>THIS IS A CONSULAR CASE, PRIVATE MATTER AND NOT APPROPRIATE TO OFFER DETAILS.>>Reporter: A LONGTIME FRIEND SAID HE AND OTHERS TRIED TO DISSUADE THE 44-YEAR-OLD FROM MAKING THE TRIP.>>THE WORRY, I HAVE EVERYTHING UNDER CONTROL, >>Reporter: BUT BAXTER WAS DETAINED, FOLLOWED BY MONTHS OF SILENCE. HIS MOTHER ISSUED A VIDEO PLEADING FOR HIS RELEASE. THIS CANADIAN WHO FLED FROM SYRIA AS A REFUGEE SAYS THERE IS NO RULE OF LAW IN HIS FORMER COUNTRY AND FOREIGNERS ARE IMMEDIATELY SUSPECTED OF SPYING.>>ONCE YOU ENTER SYRIA FROM ANY BORDER, YOU ENTER A BIG PRISON. WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, REASON OR NOT, YOU ENTER THE PRISON.>>Reporter: DESPITE ITS LONG CIVIL WAR, SYRIA’S GOVERNMENT HAS RELEASED VIDEOS PROMOTING ITSELF AS A SAFE DESTINATION FOR TOURISTS.>>ANYONE WHO IS THINKING OF TRAVELLING TO A COUNTRY THAT IS IN THE MIDST OF A CIVIL WAR NEEDS TO HAVE THEIR HEAD EXAMINED.>>Reporter: THE REGIME IS BRUTAL AND UNFORGIVING SAYS THIS INTERNATIONAL LAW EXPERT.>>WE’RE TALKING ABOUT A GOVERNMENT THAT HAS COMMITTED MASS ATROCITIES. LISTEN, HALF OF THE POPULATION OF SYRIA HAS BEEN DISPLACED. MORE THAN HALF A MILLION PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED.>>Reporter: ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS PLACES ON THE PLANET. NO PLACE FOR SIGHT-SEEING. A LESSON LEARNED THE HARD WAY BY ONE CANADIAN NOW SAFE. GREG RASMUSSEN, CBC NEWS, VANCOUVER.>>Ian: ABOUT 1200 CANADIANS ARE DETAINED ABROAD AT ANY GIVEN TIME ACCORDING TO GOVERNMENT MEMOS. THAT NUMBER HAS STAYED FAIRLY CONSISTENT IN RECENT YEARS. GLOBAL AFFAIRS CANADA SAYS THEY’RE BEING HELD IN MORE THAN 85 COUNTRIES. IN CHINA, APPROXIMATELY 200 CANADIANS HAVE BEEN DETAINED AND CONTINUE TO FACE LEGAL PROCEEDINGS. MANY ARE ON BAIL OR PROBATION. IN THE UNITED STATES, NEARLY 900 CANADIANS ARE BEING HELD UNDER SIMILAR CIRCUMSTANCES. NOW TO THE WAVES OF GUN VIOLENCE SPREADING FEAR ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BORDER. IN THE UNITED STATES, THE OUTRAGE OVER MASS SHOOTINGS HAS LED TO A DEBATE OVER BACKGROUND CHECKS. LET’S START IN CANADA. THIS AFTERNOON, SHOTS RANG OUT IN TORONTO AND THAT CAUSED PANIC. TWO MEN WERE SHOT, ONE DIED AT THE SCENE AND THIS IS ALL PART OF AN ALARMING PATTERN. LAST NIGHT, A MAN WAS SHOT TWICE AT A BASKETBALL COURT. ON WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON, ANOTHER DAYLIGHT ATTACK WITH DOZENS OF SHOTS FIRED AND TWO MEN INJURED. DURING THE LONG WEEKEND THAT ENDED MONDAY, 17 PEOPLE WERE HURT IN 14 STRAIT SHOOTINGS. — SEPARATE SHOOTINGS. TORONTO HAS SEEN TWO DOZEN SHOOTINGS IN THE WEEK. THE CITY ON PACE TO SET A DEADLY RECORD. THE POLICE CHIEF IS BLAMING STREET GANGS, BUT SAYS THERE IS A MUCH LARGER ISSUE >>Reporter: WHAT DOES THAT DO TO YOU WHEN YOU HEAR OF ANOTHER SHOOTING, LET ALONE ONE IN YOUR NEIGHBOURHOOD?>>RIGHT. IT INFURIATES ME. IT TRIGGERS MY OWN EXPERIENCE ALL THE TIME.>>Reporter: EVELYN FOX LOST HER SON KISSINGER TO GUN VIOLENCE IN 2016. YESTERDAY, ANOTHER SHOOTING.>>IT DOES NOT FEEL LIKE A SAFE CITY. WE’RE TERRIFIED.>>Reporter: SHE SAYS FAMILIES LIKE HERS ARE RE-TRAUMATIZED WITH EVERY SHOOTING.>>LIKE I WATCHED MY SON DIE FROM A BULLET WOUND AND I’LL NEVER FORGET THAT.>>THESE SHOOTINGS THAT HAPPENED OVER THE PAST 10 DAYS BY AND LARGE HAVE STREET GANG CONNOTATIONS TO THEM OR ARE STREET GANG-RELATED.>>Reporter: TORONTO POLICE CHIEF MARK SAUNDERS SAYING IT’S BAD GUYS SHOOTING BAD GUYS. GUNS SEIZED, NOT ENOUGH TO MAKE A DENT.>>IF THE EXPECTATIONS ARE THAT WE’RE GOING TO ARREST OURSELVES OUT OF THIS, WE SIMPLY ARE NOT.>>Reporter: TODAY, THE CHIEF USED A STARTLING FIGURE TO PORTRAY THE BAIL SYSTEM AS A REVOLVING DOOR. RIGHT NOW, THERE ARE 326 PEOPLE OUT ON BAIL WITH GUN CHARGES AGAINST THEM.>>THAT IS UNBELIEVABLE.>>Reporter: TORONTO’S GUN AND GANG ISSUE IS NOT ONLY COMPLEX, IT’S PLAYING OUT ON A LARGER SCALE THAN ANY OTHER CITY IN CANADA. AND YET AS CHIEF SAUNDERS ARGUES, BAIL LAWS ARE FEDERAL.>>IF WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY IT MAKING AMENDMENT OR SOME SORT OF UNDERSTANDING IN THE COURTS, BECAUSE YOU CAN BE SITTING IN A COURT IN TORONTO, BUT YOUR BENCHMARK IS ON WHAT IS GOING ON IN CANADA.>>Reporter: THE FEDERAL MINISTER RESPONSIBLE, BILL BLAIR SAID TODAY, WITH REGARDS TO BAIL, THERE IS…>>OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM IS FAILING US. OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM DOES NOT CARE ABOUT THE VICTIMS. THEY CATER MORE TO THE PERPETRATORS AND DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE VICTIMS.>>Reporter: SHE WANTS CHANGE AND FAST. SO NO OTHER MOTHER HAS TO LOSE A CHILD LIKE SHE DID. ALI CHIASSON, CBC NEWS, TORONTO.>>Ian: THERE ARE NEW DETAILS ABOUT THE DEAD MASS SHOOTING. THE GUNMAN STEPPED OUT OF THE VEHICLE WITH HANDS UP SURRENDERED. THAT LINES UP WITH THE RACIST MANIFESTO THE POLICE BELIEVE THE SHOOTER POSTED ONLINE. THAT ATTACK AND THE ONE IN DAYTON, OHIO, HAVE RENEWED CALLS FOR STRONGER GUN LAWS. PETER ARMSTRONG WITH DONALD TRUMP’S SHIFTING POSITION ON BACKGROUND CHECKS.>>President Donald Trump: BACKGROUND CHECKS WE HAVE TREMENDOUS SUPPORT FOR REALLY COMMONSENSE, SENSIBLE, IMPORTANT BACKGROUND CHECKS.>>Reporter: THAT MAY SOUND LIKE COMMONSENSE, TO CHECK THAT SOMEONE BUYING A GUN DOESN’T HAVE A MENTAL ILLNESS OR A CRIMINAL RECORD.>>President Donald Trump: WE DON’T WANT PEOPLE THAT ARE MENTALLY ILL, PEOPLE THAT ARE SICK, WE DON’T WANT THEM HAVING GUNS. WHO DOES?>>Reporter: WELL, NOT THAT LONG AGO DONALD TRUMP WAS ARGUING THE EXACT OPPOSITE POSITION. EARLY IN HIS PRESIDENCY, HE REPEALED A BILL THAT MADE IT HARDER FOR PEOPLE WITH MENTAL ILLNESS TO OBTAIN GUNS. THAT WAS MOVE WAS HERALDED BY THE NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION. NOW WHEN LOOKING AT THE PRESIDENT’S FAIRLY MODEST PROPOSALS ON RED FLAG LAWS AND BACKGROUND CHECKS, THE NRA SAYS IT OPPOSES ANY LEGISLATION THAT UNFAIRLY INFRINGES UPON THE RIGHTS OF LAW ABIDING CITIZENS AND SAID IT WOULD WORK IN GOOD FAITH TOWARD REAL SOLUTIONS.>>President Donald Trump: I HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THE NRA.>>Reporter: HE SAYS HE SPOKE AT LENGTH WITH WAYNE LAPIERRE.>>I THINK WAYNE AND THE NRA IN THE END WILL EITHER BE THERE OR MAYBE BE A LITTLE MORE NEUTRAL. THAT WOULD BE OKAY, TOO.>>Reporter: BUT TO CHANGE THE LAW, TRUMP NEEDS CONGRESS, SPECIFICALLY HE NEEDS SENATE MAJORITY LEADER MITCH McCONNELL. DEMONSTRATORS LINED THE STREETS OUTSIDE McCONNELL’S HOUSE THIS WEEKEND DEMANDING HE ACT. SPEAKING TO A LOCAL RADIO STATION, McCONNELL SAID RED FLAG LAWS AND BACKGROUND CHECKS WILL BE FRONT AND CENTRE.>>THE URGENCY OF THIS IS NOT LOST ON ANY OF US, BECAUSE WE’VE SEEN AN ENTIRELY TOO MANY OF THESE OUTRAGEOUS ACTS BY THESE MENTALLY DERANGED PEOPLE.>>Reporter: TO BE CLEAR, THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THE EL PASO SHOOTER HAD A MENTAL ILLNESS. AND IT’S UNCERTAIN WHETHER THESE PROPOSALS WOULD HAVE PREVENTED THE EL PASO OR DAYTON SHOOTER FROM GETTING A GUN. McCONNELL MADE IT CLEAR, HE’S NOT GOING TO RECALL CONGRESS, SO PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE GUN LAWS WON’T BE DEBATED UNTIL THE FALL. AND TRUMP JUST LEFT THE WHITE HOUSE FOR AN 11-DAY VACATION. PETER ARMSTRONG, CBC NEWS, WASHINGTON.>>Ian: A MISSOURI MAN WAS CHARGED WITH MAKING A TERRORIST THREAT AFTER HE WALKED AROUND A WALMART CARRYING A LOADED RIFLE, WEARING BODY ARMOUR AND FILMING HIMSELF.>>HE WAS COMPLIANT, BUT HIS INTENT WAS NOT TO CAUSE PEACE OR COMFORT TO ANYBODY IN THE BUSINESS HERE. IN FACT, HE’S LUCKY HE’S ALIVE STILL.>>Reporter: THE 20-YEAR-OLD TOLD POLICE HE WANTED TO TEST WHETHER WALMART WOULD SUPPORT HIS CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS. NO SHOTS WERE FIRED, BUT SHOPPERS RAN IN PANIC. HE WAS ARRESTED AFTER AN OFF-DUTY FIREFIGHTER PULLED OUT HIS WEAPON. TODAY, THE WHITE HOUSE HOSTED A MEETING WITH TECH AND SOCIAL MEDIA COMPANIES. BUT HOW CAN YOU EVEN DO THAT? WE BRING TOGETHER EXPERTS OF OUR OWN IN 20 MINUTES.>>>THE PRESIDENT WASN’T AT THE WHITE HOUSE FOR THAT MEETING, INSTEAD AT A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR FUNDRAISER HOSTED BIEN THE OWNER OF A — BY THE OWNER OF A HIGH END FITNESS CHANGE. KIM BRUNHUBER EXPLAINS WHY ANGER AGAINST TRUMP’S ATTENDANCE SPREAD QUICKLY.>>Reporter: IT MAY SEEM LIKE AN ODD THING TO SHOUT OUTSIDE A CYCLING STUDIO, BUT SUCH IS THE REACH OF POLITICS THESE DAYS, EVEN A WORKOUT CAN GET PEOPLE WORKED UP. UP TO $42 A CLASS, SOUL CYCLE EMPHASIZES SPIRITUALITY AND INCLUSIVENESS. IT WAS A SHOCK TO THE OWNERS, WHO HAS A STAKE IN EQUINOX, HELD A FUNDRAISER IN THE HAMPTONS FOR DONALD TRUMP.>>I LOVE COMING HERE, BUT I’M NOT HAPPY MY MONEY THAT I GIVE TO EQUINOX IS BEING USED FOR A FUNDRAISER FOR TRUMP.>>PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO DONATE WHEREVER THEY WANT. A BUSINESS IS A BUSINESS.>>Reporter: AS SOON AS THE NEWS BROKE, HIGH-PROFILE CELEBRITIES LIKE CHRISSY TEIGEN AND BILLY EICHNER CALLED FOR A BOYCOTT OF THE CHAIN. THEY RELEASED STATEMENTS SAYING THEY DON’T SUPPORT THE FUNDRAISER, BUT THAT HASN’T STOPPED SOME FROM CANCELLING. THE CONTROVERSY DOESN’T STOP THERE. ROSS OWNS THE MIAMI DOLPHINS. WIDE RECEIVER KENNY STILLS SAYS DISSONANCE BAFFLES HIM.>>IT DOESN’T ALIGN, TO BE RUNNING A NONPROFIT, FOCUSED ON EQUALITY, TALKING ABOUT SPORTS AND EQUALITY AND THEN TO BE HOLDING A FUNDRAISER FOR A MAN THAT WE KNOW ISN’T STANDING UP FOR THAT SAME CAUSE.>>Reporter: TRUMP ON HIS WAY TO THE FUNDRAISER DISMISSED CRITICISM OF HIS GREAT FRIEND.>>President Donald Trump: THE CONTROVERSY MAKES PEOPLE HOTTER. THEY’LL FIGURE THAT OUT IN A WEEK. HE’S HAPPY, HE’S SUCCESSFUL.>>Reporter: THESE ARE JUST THE LATEST IN A LONG STRING OF COMPANIES FACING A BACKLASH DUE TO TIES WITH TRUMP. DO THE PROTESTS AFFECT THE BOTTOM LINE? RESEARCH IS INCONCLUSIVE. BUT IT HELPED THE BOTTOM LINE TODAY. IT RAISED $12 MILLION TODAY.>>Ian: IN OTTAWA, THE TRUDEAU GOVERNMENT ANNOUNCED A BIG OVERHAUL OF THE CANADA DRUG SYSTEM. A CRITICAL STEP TOWARD THE NATIONAL PHARMACARE PROGRAMME. ASHLEY BURKE HAS MORE ON THE PLAN ANNOUNCED JUST WEEKS BEFORE THE ELECTION CAMPAIGN.>>Reporter: JAMES ELLIOTT LIVES WITH TYPE ONE DIABETES. HE SAYS BALANCING HIS MEDICATION IS LIKE A GAME OF TETRIS.>>IT FEELS FRUSTRATING.>>Reporter: HE SPENT $5,000 A YEAR OUT-OF-POCKET ON HIS PRESCRIPTION DRUGS AND MEDICAL SUPPLIES.>>$5,000 IS A LOT OF MONEY, THAT’S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CAR, A DOWN PAYMENT ON A HOUSE.>>Reporter: CANADIANS PAY SOME OF THE HIGHEST PRICES FOR DRUGS IN THE DEVELOPED WORLD. 25% MORE THAN AVERAGE. SO FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THREE DECADES HEALTH CANADA IS UPDATING THE REGULATIONS. A MOVE IT SAYS THAT WILL PROTECT CANADIANS FROM EXCESSIVE PRICES FOR NEW DRUGS.>>WE SIMPLY WANT TO MAKE SURE ALL CANADIANS HAVE ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE PRESCRIPTION MEDICATIONS.>>Reporter: CANADA COMPARES TO SEVEN OTHER COUNTRIES. STARTING NEXT SUMMER, THE UNITED STATES AND SWITZERLAND WILL BE PULLED FROM THAT BENCHMARK LIST BECAUSE THEIR DRUG PRICES ARE SO HIGH. THAT COULD MEAN LOWER PRICES.>>IF WE LOOK AT OUR PLAN TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE NATIONAL PHARMACARE PROGRAMME, THE FIRST THING WE NEED TO DO IS REDUCE THE PRICE OF PRESCRIPTION MEDICATION. SO IT’S A HUGE STEP TO MEET THAT GOAL.>>Reporter: THE GOAL OF NATIONAL PHARMACARE IS EXPECTED TO BE A KEY PART OF THE LIBERAL PLATFORM. THE N.D.P. HAS ALREADY PROMISED THEY’LL INTRODUCE PHARMACARE IF ELECTED. THEY QUESTION THE LIBERAL’S TIMING.>>THE GOVERNMENT HAD THIS REGULATION IN THE BOOKS ON THE TABLE SINCE 2017. THEY WAITED TWO YEARS ONE MONTH BEFORE THE CAMPAIGN TO ANNOUNCE THE IMPLEMENTATION. SO IT’S VERY OBVIOUS IT IS FOR ELECTORAL PURPOSES, THIS ANNOUNCEMENT IS MADE NOW.>>Reporter: THE GOVERNMENT SPENT THREE YEARS CONSULTING AN REVEALING THIS PLAN. THE HEALTH MINISTER SAYS THEY TOOK ALL THAT TIME TO GET IT RIGHT. THE NEW CHANGES ARE SET TO COME INTO EFFECT JULY 1, AFTER THE FEDERAL ELECTION. ASHLEY BURKE, CBC NEWS, OTTAWA.>>Ian: HERE’S SOME OF THE OTHER STORIES WE’RE FOLLOWING ON “THE NATIONAL”. INCLUDING CONTROVERSIAL COMMENTS FROM ONTARIO PREMIER DOUG FORD TODAY ABOUT A MENTAL HEALTH PATIENT DETAINED FOR KILLING HIS ROOMMATE.>>IT’S ABOUT TIME POLITICIANS STOPPED HIDING BEHIND PODIUMS AND BEING POLITICALLY CORRECT. JUST IMAGINE IF IT WAS YOUR DAUGHTER THAT THIS ANIMAL CHOPPED UP?>>Ian: HE WAS REFERRING TO THE MAN WHO KILLED HIS ROOMMATE WITH A MEAT CLEAVER BUT FOUND NOT CRIMINALLY RESPONSIBLE BECAUSE OF MENTAL ILLNESS. HE WENT MISSING FROM TORONTO CENTRE FOR ADDICTION AND MENTAL HEALTH LAST MONTH. AT THE TIME FORD CALLED HIM A NUTS CASE. IT’S BELIEVED THE MAN FLED THE COUNTRY.>>>A CANADA-WIDE ARREST WARRANT HAS BEEN ISSUED FOR A SASKATCHEWAN WOMAN CHARGED WITH FIRST-DEGREE MURDER. NIKITA COOK IS THE 7TH PERSON FACING CHARGES OVER THE KILLING OF 25-YEAR-OLD EDMONTON WOMAN TIKI LAVERDIERE. HER BODY WAS FOUND NEAR NORTH BATTLEFORD, SASKATCHEWAN IN JULY. SHELVES THERE FOR A FUNERAL. THEY’RE ADVISING ANYONE WHO SEES COOK NOT TO APPROACH HER.>>>AND POLICE IN MONTREAL HAVE I.D.’d A MAN CAUGHT ON VIDEO TAUNTING A WOMAN AND HER DAUGHTER WHO ARE SPEAKING ARABIC. THE MOTHER HAD JUST PICKED HER TWO-YEAR-OLD UP FROM DAYCARE. HE MADE RACIST AND LEWD COMMENTS BEFORE ANOTHER WOMAN INTERVENED. POLICE AREN’T COMMENTING ON THE POSSIBILITY OF CHARGES.>>>TENSIONS REMAIN HIGH IN KASHMIR, EVEN AFTER A SLIGHT EASING OF SECURITY BY INDIA. IT STRIPPED ITS SECTION OF THE MUSLIM MAJORITY REGION OF THE AUTONOMOUS STATUS AND IMPOSED A LOCKDOWN ON MONDAY. THE REGION BECAME PART OF INDIA IN 1947 AFTER THE END OF BRITISH RULE. BOTH INDIA AND PAKISTAN CONSIDER THE AREA THEIRS. THEY’VE FOUGHT REPEATED WARS STRUGGLING FOR CONTROL. EACH CURRENTLY CONTROLS A SECTION WITH A CEASE-FIRE LINE TO DIVIDE THEM. AS SUSAN ORMISTON TELLS US, INDIA’S MOVE HAS INFURIATED PEOPLE IN KASHMIR AND PAKISTAN.>>Reporter: FRIDAY PRAYERS INDIA RELAXED SOME RESTRICTIONS ALLOWING PEOPLE TO VENTURE OUT TO THE MOSQUES WHERE FRUSTRATION WAS PALPABLE. THE DISPUTE CAN ONLY BE DECIDED BY THE PEOPLE HERE, SAID THE IMAM. THESE MEN LEFT THE MOSQUE EMBOLDENED, CROWDING ON TO THE STREETS, TENSIONS RISING.>>IN EVERY PART OF INDIA PEOPLE ARE CELEBRATING, BUT THEY DON’T KNOW THAT OUR HEARTS ARE BLEEDING. WE ARE CRYING. WE ARE UNDER SIEGE.>>Reporter: YOUNG KASHMIRIES ARE NOW ACTIVELY PROTESTING, TAUNTING INDIAN SECURITY FORCES WHO ARE RESPONDING WITH TEAR GAS AND PELLET GUNS. MOBILE PHONE IS CUT OFF. BUT THERE IS NO SIGN WHEN THE LOCKDOWN WILL BE LIFTED. YESTERDAY, INDIANS PAUSED TO WATCH THEIR PRIME MINISTER ASSERT THAT INDIAN CONTROLLED KASHMIR WILL NO LONGER GET SPECIAL STATUS, INSTEAD, BE SPLIT INTO TWO INDIAN TERRITORIES.>>NOW IT IS ABSOLUTE MILITARY OCCUPATION. THAT IS A SHOCK WHAT INDIA HAS DONE.>>Reporter: KASHMIRY CANADIAN, FAROOQ SIDDIQI, HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO SPEAK WITH HIS SISTER FOR A WEEK.>>THERE IS CHANCES THAT THEY’LL — >>Reporter: THE REMOVAL OF SPECIAL STATUS CAME SUDDENLY. AND MAY BE CONNECTED TO SWIFTLY DEVELOPING PEACE TALKS BETWEEN THE U.S. AND THE TALIBAN IN NEIGHBORING AFGHANISTAN.>>TIMING MATTERS. WHEN IT DOES COINCIDE WITH THE UNITED STATES SUGGESTING THAT THE PEACE TALKS OF THE TALIBAN ARE GOING SOMEWHERE AND NOW IT’S CLEARLY THAT ADVANTAGES PAKISTAN AND DISADVANTAGES INDIA.>>Reporter: INDIA MAINTAINS THAT IT’S AN INTERNAL AFFAIR.>>WE REJECTED IT IS INTERNAL ISSUE OF INDIA.>>Reporter: NEXT WEEK IS CRITICAL AS INDIA CELEBRATES INDEPENDENCE DAY WITH NEW BUT STILL DISPUTED TERRITORY. SUSAN ORMISTON, CBC NEWS, LONDON.>>Ian: STILL MADE ON “THE NATIONAL”, FIGHTING ONLINE EXTREMISM. WE GO IN DEPTH AND ASK HOW DO YOU CRACK DOWN ONLINE HATE BEFORE IT TURNS VIOLENT? CELEBRATING INDIGENOUS LANGUAGES WITH A LITTLE HELP FROM GOOGLE EARTH.>>HUL’Q’UMI’NUM’ IS A VERY BEAUTIFUL LANGUAGE AND FOR US TO KEEP IT ALIVE THROUGH GOOGLE EARTH, [ * ]>>Ian: AS OF TODAY, YOU CAN SIT IN FRONT OF YOUR COMPUTER, LOAD GOOGLE EARTH AND HEAR DOZENS OF INDIGENOUS LANGUAGES SPOKEN AROUND THE WORLD. SEVEN OF THEM ARE FROM HERE IN CANADA. IT’S AN INITIATIVE TO PRESERVE CULTURE AND TRADITION.>>LET’S CLICK HERE.>>Reporter: LANGUAGES AROUND THE WORLD ARE DISAPPEARING AT AN ALARMING RATE.>>THIS IS IN BRITISH COLUMBIA. SO WE’LL HEAR A GREETING NOW.>>Reporter: BUT WITH THE CLICK OF A MOUSE AND THE HELP OF GOOGLE EARTH, MORE THAN 50 INDIGENOUS LANGUAGES AROUND THE WORLD ARE COMING TO LIFE.>> [Speaking Native Language]>>Reporter: WITH RECORDED AUDIO CLIPS OF GREETINGS, CHANTS AND A FEW TRADITIONAL SONGS –>> [ * ]>>THESE ARE THE BASIC GREETINGS WE USE HERE IN HUL’Q’UMI’NUM’, IT’S ASKING HOW ARE YOU.>>Reporter: MANDY JONES IS AMONG ONE OF THE SEVEN INDIGENOUS PERSONS FROM CANADA FEATURED IN THE GOOGLE EARTH PROJECT.>>MY HOPE IS THAT PEOPLE SEE IT AND WANT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE LANGUAGE IN OUR TERRITORY. THEY’LL HEAR THE WORD HUL’Q’UMI’NUM’ AND THEY’LL SAY, HMM, THAT MUST BE FROM NANAIMO, I GOT TO FIND OUT ABOUT THIS.>>Reporter: GOOGLE EARTH HAS THE SAME OBJECTIVE. TO RAISE AWARENESS OF LANGUAGES AND PROTECT THEM, TOO. THROUGH THE YEARS, JONES WORKED HARD TO PRESERVE HER TRADITIONAL LANGUAGE AND TODAY, TEACHES LANGUAGE TO INDIGENOUS AND NON-INDIGENOUS PEOPLE ON VANCOUVER ISLAND.>>IF WE LOSE OUR LANGUAGE, WE LOSE OUR CULTURE. WE LOSE OUR CULTURE, WE LOSE OUR LANGUAGE.>>YOU THINK OF THE RESIDENTIAL SCHOOLS SITUATION PEOPLE WERE PUNISHED FOR SPEAKING THEIR LANGUAGES. THEY WENT BACK HOME. THEY WERE AFRAID TO SPEAK THE LANGUAGES.>>Reporter: SHE SAYS THE FACT THAT THE GOOGLE EARTH PROJECT COINCIDES WITH THE U.N. INTERNATIONAL YEAR OF INDIGENOUS LANGUAGES IS A CAUSE FOR CELEBRATION.>>IT DOES IS VALUE THE LANGUAGE. IT SHOWS IT’S SOMETHING THAT IS IMPORTANT TO PEOPLE. IT SHOWS THE RELATIONSHIP OF LANGUAGE TO LAND BECAUSE THEY’RE TALKING ABOUT WHERE THEY COME FROM.>>Reporter: TALKING AND CELEBRATING A LANGUAGE THAT FOR MANY WAS TAKEN FROM THEM SO LONG AGO. KAS ROUSSY, CBC NEWS, TORONTO.>>Ian: STILL AHEAD, FIGHTING ONLINE HATE. HOW DO YOU SPOT IT AND PREVENT IT? WE ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS WITH OUR PANEL.>>>IT’S ABOUT PERSPECTIVE. THE STEPS ONE CATHEDRAL IS TAKING TO ATTRACT NEW VISITORS.>>CERTAINLY NOT A GIMMICK. IT REALLY IS A VERY>>IT HAPPENED WITH THE MOSQUE SHOOTINGS, CHRISTCHURCH IN MARCH, THE SYNAGOGUE SHOOTING AND WALMART SHOOTING IN EL PASO. MASS MURDER AT THE POINT OF A GUN, FUELLED BY HATE AND RACISM AND AT LEAST PARTIALLY EXPLAINED THROUGH A MANIFESTO POSTED ON 8CHAN. IN THAT CORNER OF THE WEB, WHITE SUPREMACIST VIEWS AREN’T JUST TOLERATED, BUT CELEBRATED. THE SITE NOW SO NOTORIOUS, THE MAN WHO FOUNDED IT BUT SINCE WALKED AWAY FROM IT, WISHES HE COULD TURN BACK THE CLOCK.>>8CHAN HAS BEEN A TOTAL NEGATIVE IN THE WORLD. I WAS NAIVE AND IGNORANT WHEN I MADE IT. IF I COULD GO BACK AND NOT CREATE 8CHAN, I PROBABLY WOULD.>>Andrew: IT’S FAR FROM THE ONLY PLACE ONLINE FOR HATE. THEY HELD A MEETING WITH INTERNET AND TECH COMPANIES. THEY REFUSED TO SAY WHICH ONES, JUST THAT THEY’RE DISCUSSING HOW TO CURB VIOLENT ONLINE EXTREMISM. DONALD TRUMP WAS NOT THERE, BUT HE DID SAY THIS EARLIER THIS WEEK.>>President Donald Trump: THE INTERNET HAS PROVIDED A DANGEROUS AVENUE TO RADICALIZED DISTURBED MINDS AND PERFORM DEMENTED ACTS. WE MUST SHINE LIGHT ON THE DARK RECESSES OF THE INTERNET AND STOP MASS MURDERS BEFORE THEY START.>>Andrew: SO THAT IS THE STATED GOAL, BUT MAYBE EASIER SAID THAN DONE. I WANT TO SPEND THE NEXT TEN MINUTES TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW EXACTLY ONE GOES ABOUT FINDING EVERY BAD APPLE WHEN YOU CAN’T ALWAYS TELL THE BAD FROM THE GOOD, NEVER MIND WHERE TO LOOK FOR THEM. JOINING ME, FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR, JO MORENO, AND IRFAN CHAUDHRY, FROM EDMONTON, ADVISING A FEDERAL PANEL HERE IN CANADA ON RADICALIZATION. TRUMP’S STATED GOAL IS TO DETECT MASS SHOOTERS BEFORE THEY STRIKE?>>YOU LED IN PERFECTLY. EASIER SAID THAN DONE. A NEEDLE IN THE HAYSTACK. IF YOU LOOK AT THE TECHNOLOGICAL DIFFICULTY IN REALTIME TRYING TO IDENTIFY HATE SPEECH, WHETHER IT’S IN PERP, WHETHER IT’S ELECTIRONIC OR ANY OF THE LESSER-KNOWNS PLATFORMS, IT’S EXTREMELY DIFFICULT. WE’RE GETTING CLOSER FROM A TECHNOLOGICAL PERSPECTIVE, BUT WE’RE NOWHERE NEAR THERE.>>Andrew: ISN’T THIS SOMETHING THE U.S. GOVERNMENT HAS A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN DOING, ESPECIALLY FOREIGN THREAT. WHEN IT COMES TO TRACKING ISIS MEMBER, SYMPATHIZER OR al-QAEDA, THEY SEEM TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT WELL. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DOING THAT AND A WHITE SUPREMACIST?>>HERE’S THE BIG DIFFERENCE. AFTER THE 9/11 ATTACKS THAT IS WHERE THE FOCUS OF THE U.S. MILITARY, U.S. INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY WERE SHIFTED. IT WAS TO LOOK FOR al-QAEDA AND THEN LATER ISIS AND OTHER DESIGNATED GROUP SYMPATHIZERS. THOSE WHO WANTED TO GIVE MONEY TO THE GROUPS. THOSE WHO VERBALIZED SUPPORT OF THE GROUPS. IT WAS EASIER THOUGH BECAUSE YOU HAD IDENTIFIED GROUPS. EVERYONE KNEW IF YOU TALKED ABOUT BEING A SYMPATHIZER OF al-QAEDA, EVENTUALLY THE F.B.I. IS PROBABLY GOING TO KNOCK ON YOUR DOOR. THE DIFFERENCE WITH THE WHITE NATIONALIST PROBLEM, THERE ARE VERY FEW CENTRALIZED GROUPS. IT’S NOT LIKE THE KU KLUX KLAN BACK IN THE 60s AND 70s WHERE THERE WAS A SUCCESSFULLY INFILTRATED GROUP.>>Andrew: WHAT ARE YOU EVEN LOOKING FOR. WHEN I THINK OF THE STEREO TYPICAL SIGNS, I THINK OF SOMEONE WHO IS ANGRY, MAYBE THEY POST PHOTOS OF GUNS THEY OWN, EVEN THEN, IT’S STILL A LOT OF PEOPLE.>>I THINK THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE AND YOU’LL HEAR TECH COMPANIES SAY THIS, YOU NEED TO HAVE, IT DOESN’T MATTER, THERE IS NO THRESHOLD OR ELEMENT THAT CAN BE A COMMONALITY, BUT THERE HAS TO BE A TRIGGER. YOU NEVER KNOW IT’S GOING TO IMPACT TO AN ONLINE ACT OF VIOLENCE. WITH THE QUÉBEC MOSQUE IT WAS A TWEET FROM THE PRIME MINISTER THAT WAS THE STRAW ON THE CAMEL’S BACK THAT LED HIM TO VIOLENCE. IT DIDN’T RAISE ALARM BILLS BECAUSE THERE WASN’T CONTEXTUAL AWARENESS THERE FOR IT TO BE RAISED AS A CONCERN. YOU’RE HEARING STORIES OF PEOPLE RAISING CONCERNS TO LAW ENFORCEMENT AND EITHER IT’S NOT TAKEN SERIOUSLY AS THE PERSON REPORTING HOPES IT WOULD BE, OR BECAUSE THE INFORMATION IS SO VOLUMINOUS, IT BECOMES A CHALLENGE FROM A RESOURCE PERSPECTIVE.>>JANE, EVEN THE KIND OF LANGUAGE USED HAS CHANGED. IT’S NOT AS OVERT AS PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT SHOOTING, KILLING AND DEATH. THE LANGUAGE HAS CHANGED TO TALKING ABOUT INVASIONS, TALKING ABOUT GLOBALISTS TAKING OVER. I MEAN, AND YOU THINK OF THE FACT THAT THE U.S. PRESIDENT HIMSELF, HAS USED THOSE TYPES OF WORDS. I MEAN, WHAT TECH COMPANY IS POSITIONED TO — WITH THE SOPHISTICATED ENOUGH ALGORITHM TO SORT THROUGH ALL OF THAT AND WEED OUT THE GOOD FROM THE BAD?>>IT’S A VERY DIFFICULT PROBLEM. AND I THINK IT’S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT THE LEVEL OF MODERATION THAT IS REQUIRED RIGHT NOW, AND THE LEVEL OF OVERSIGHT REQUIRED OF THESE COMPANIES IS HUGE. TWO BILLION USERS ARE ON Facebook GLOBALLY. SO TO LOOK AT THE INDIVIDUAL THREATS, IT’S A HUGE UNDERTAKING THAT HAS NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE. BUT I THINK WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE ISSUES ON PLATFORMS, ESPECIALLY FROM THE POINT OF VIEW HOW IT CAN BECOME A SORT OF A SELF-PERPETUATING ISSUE, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS SYSTEMICALLY. SO WHITE NATIONALISM AND HATE SPEECH IS NOT NECESSARILY AN ISOLATED PROBLEM. IT IS A PROBLEM THAT ALSO FEEDS INTO DISINFORMATION AND DISINFORMATION IS A PROBLEM THAT FEEDS INTO THE WAY OUR DATA IS COLLECTED, THE WAY OUR DATA IS TREATED. SO IF WE LOOK AT WHITE NATIONALISM AS AN ISSUE ON SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS, WE CAN’T LOOK ONLY AT THAT.>>WHEN WE LOOK AT THE OUTCOME OF TODAY’S FORUM, THE U.S. DEPUTY PRESS SECRETARY SEEMS TO BE PUTTING THE ONUS ON THE SOCIAL MEDIA AND TECH COMPANIES TO FIND A WAY TO POLICE ITSELF. JOE, ARE AUTHORITIES BETTER POSITIONED TO DO THE POLICING IN THIS CASE? I MEAN, CAN YOU EXPECT TECH COMPANIES TO BE ABLE TO DO THE JOB ON THEIR OWN?>>THERE IS DEFINITELY A GAP HERE, RIGHT. BECAUSE LET’S SAY THE TECH COMPANIES GET TO THE POINT WHERE TECHNOLOGICALLY THEY CAN WEED OUT THE GOOD FROM THE BAD. WE’RE GETTING CLOSE. BUT WHAT DO YOU DO ABOUT THAT? DO YOU WANT THE F.B.I. HARVESTING LARGE AMOUNTS OF DATA AND SIFTING THROUGH IT ITSELF? DO YOU WANT THE TECH COMPANIES TO BE OBLIGATED TO NOTIFY THE GOVERNMENT, THEY FEEL LIKE THERE IS REALLY A PROBLEM WITH THE INDIVIDUAL, OR SOMETHING IN BETWEEN? I THINK THAT IS THE BIG QUESTION. NOT ONLY DO THE TECH COMPANIES HAVE LIMITED RESOURCES IN DEVELOPING THE TECHNOLOGY AND RUNNING ALGORITHMS, BUT THE F.B.I. HAS LIMITED RESOURCES TOO AND RIGHT NOW THERE IS NO WAY TO KNOCK ON THE DOOR OF EVERY SINGLE YOUNG MAN — AND IT’S USUALLY YOUNG MEN, WHO PROMOTE HATE SPEECH.>>Andrew: I WANT TO PLAY A CLIP. THIS IS THE FOUNDER OF 8CHAN WHO WE HEARD FROM A FEW MINUTES AGO, BUT THIS IS WHY HE’S CRITICAL OF THE ONLINE MESSAGE BOARD.>>I JUST WANT THIS TO HAPPEN AGAIN. I WANT THEM TO TAKE EITHER COMMONSENSE MEASURES TO STOP THIS FROM HAPPENING, OR THEY CAN JUST BE SHUT DOWN AND PEOPLE WHO WILL TAKE THE MEASURES CAN TAKE THEIR PLACE.>>Andrew: THAT RAISES AN IMPORTANT QUESTION. THIS IDEA OF SHUTTING DOWN THE SITE. WE’RE TALKING ABOUT DEEP PLATFORMING HERE. DOES THAT WORK? CAN YOU JUST BAN SOMEONE FROM A SITE OR DISMANTLE THE SITE ALL TOGETHER AND SOMEHOW TACKLE THE PROBLEM?>>I THINK THERE IS SYMBOLIC, LET’S SAY POWER AND VALUE IN TERMS OF TRYING TO DEPLATFORM SOMETHING AS WE’RE SEEING WITH THE COMMENT AROUND 8CHAN. I THINK THE CHALLENGE IS WE’LL HAVE ANOTHER VARIATION COME FORWARD THAT PEOPLE WILL GRAVITATE TO. EVEN WHEN YOU SEE HOW 8 CHAN WAS CREATED BECAUSE BECAUSE OF PROTESTS AND CONCERNS THAT 4CHAN, WAS MODERATING CONTENT DURING THE TIME OF THE GAMER GATE DISPUTE. AND SO IT’S REALLY INTERESTING THAT 8CHAN WAS CREATED AND SPURRED OUT OF THAT SAME ON WILLING TO AROUND FREE FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION AND FREEDOM OF SPEECH. BUT I THINK IT’S GOING TO SHOW UP SOMEWHERE ELSE REGARDLESS.>>Andrew: JANE, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT ISSUE? IT’S A BIG ONE. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT PLAYING THE GAME OF WHACK-A-MOLE, YOU JUST MAKE THE MOLE ANGRIER. WHEN YOU THINK OF ALEX JONES, PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN DE-PLATFORMED IN VARIOUS WAYS. THEY BECAME MARTYRS, THEIR FOLLOWERS ANGRIER AND WHAT DID WE ACCOMPLISH?>>I THINK WE ACCOMPLISHED A LOT. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DE-PLATFORMING, WE’RE TALKING ABOUT ACCESS TO AN AUDIENCE. WHAT THE LARGE MAIN STREAM PLATFORM IS PROVIDING, THE INSTAGRAM, THE Facebook OF THE WORD, ACCESS TO A PUBLIC AUDIENCE THAT CAN FIND YOU THROUGH A SEARCH BAR EASILY. WHILE I UNDERSTAND THAT FROM A LAW ENFORCEMENT POINT OF VIEW IT CAN BE MORE DIFFICULT TO PENETRATE THESE HIDDEN COMMUNITIES, AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS PRACTISED IN OTHER AREAS LOOKING AT OTHER TERROR ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE’VE ALREADY MENTIONED.>>GREAT POINT THAT JANE RAISED. YOU CERTAINLY WANT TO REDUCE THE ABILITY OF THE INDIVIDUALS TO REACH A WIDE AUDIENCE, BUT THERE IS SOME DEGREE OF VALUE OF KEEPING THEM TALKING BECAUSE IT ALLOWS LAW ENFORCEMENT TO FIND THEM BEFORE AN EVENT HAPPENS. IF YOU STIFLE THEM TO A POINT — I’M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE — I’M TALKING ABOUT THE LONE WOLVES, SOME WHITE NATIONALIST TYPE HATE SPEECH, YOU DON’T WANT TO SCARE THEM OFF SO MUCH THAT YOU CAN’T MONITOR THEM. IF YOU LOSE THAT ABILITY, THAT IS ONE LESS TOOL IN THE ARSENAL TO TRY TO FIND THE INDIVIDUALS BEFORE THEY RESORT TO ACTUAL VIOLENCE.>>BUT ISN’T THAT ABILITY TO KEEP TALKING PART OF THE PROBLEM?>>IT’S DEFINITELY CIRCULAR. WE HAVE THE SAME THING IN THE PRE-SOCIAL MEDIA DAYS WHEN IT WAS OLD-FASHIONED INFILTRATION OF TERRORIST GROUPS. YOU DON’T WANT THEM SO SCARED THEY WON’T TALK TO ANYBODY. YOU WANT PEOPLE TO OPEN UP. YOU WANT TO TEASE IT OUT OF THEM AND TELL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST TALK FROM THE ONES THAT SEEM SERIOUS. IT’S A DELICATE BALANCE. AND THE TENDENCY SHOULD BE TOWARD DE-PLATFORMING. BUT RECOGNIZE WHEN WE DO THAT, WE’RE CUTTING OFF A WAY TO MONITOR PEOPLE.>>Andrew: THIS IS A FASCINATING DISCUSSION. WE HAVE TO LEAVE IT THERE. JOE, JANE, IRFAN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.>>Ian: IT WAS FASCINATING. STILL AHEAD ON “THE NATIONAL”, A HOME XHK CENTURIES IN THE MAKING. HOW THE TOWN OF PRESTON NOVA SCOTIA IS HONOURING ITS PAST.>>DESPITE THE ADVERSITY WE HAVE FAITH TO MOVE FORWARD AND I THINK IT’S AN EXAMPLE FOR ALL OF THE DIVERSE CULTURES HERE IN THE COUNTRY.>>Ian: CANADIAN SENSATION BIANCA ANDREESCU MADE HISTORY AGAIN TODAY, AND DID IT WHILE PLAYING THROUGH PAIN.>>SHE DID IT!>>Ian: SHE MADE IT TO THE SEMI-FINALS OF THE ROGERS CUP. THE FIRST CANADIAN WOMAN TO DO SO SINCE 50 YEARS AGO. THE 19-YEAR-OLD HAS JUST RECOVERED FROM A SHOULDER INJURY. TODAY, A PULLED GROIN CAUSED A LOT OF DISCOMFORT. AFTER THE GAME, SHE WAS ASKED HOW SHE MANAGED TO PLAY?>>I TOLD MYSELF, GO BIG OR GO HOME. LITERALLY, GO HOME, MY HOME IS TWO MINUTES FROM HERE [LAUGHTER], SO I JUST WENT OUT THERE AND I NEVER G>>Ian: WELCOME BACK TO “THE NATIONAL”. PROTESTERS TOOK TO THE STREETS IN HONG KONG OVERNIGHT. THEY HELD WHAT IS BEING CALLED A RELIGIOUS VIGIL TO VOICE THEIR ANGER AT THE GOVERNMENT. HUNDREDS OF DEMONSTRATORS PACKED INTO THE HALL AT THE AIRPORT YESTERDAY AND MORE RALLIES ARE PLANNED OVER THE WEEKEND. THE PROTEST STARTED TWO MONTHS AGO IN RESPONSE TO A NOW SUSPENDED EXTRADITION BILL. IT’S A BROADER CALL FOR DEMOCRACY AND THE RESIGNATION OF THE LEADER CARRIE LAM.>>>SOCIAL MEDIA VIDEO SHOWS THE MOMENT A TORNADO RIPPED THROUGH THE COUNTRY OF LUXEMBOURG. THE TWISTER RIPPED APART ROOFS OF NEARLY 100 BUILDINGS, LEAVING DEBRIS STREWN ACROSS THE STREET IN A SMALL SOUTHERN TOWN.>>>AN EMERGENCY RED ALERT HAS BEEN ISSUED BY THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT AS TYPHOON LEKIMA BEARS DOWN. THE STORM MADE LANDFALL EARLY FRIDAY MORNING, ABOUT NINE HOURS AGO, BRINGING WITH IT WINDS UP TO 160 KILOMETRES PER HOUR. FLIGHTS HAVE BEEN CANCELLED, BUSINESSES CLOSED AND SOME TRAIN SERVICE SUSPENDED. EMERGENCY CREWS ARE IN PLACE ALONG THE COAST AS THE STORM HEADS NORTH TO SHANGHAI.>>>NOVA SCOTIA IS HOME TO THE ONE OF THE OLDEST AND LARGEST BLACK COMMUNITIES IN CANADA. AND FOR THE FIRST TIME, DESCENDANTS ARE INVITED BACK FOR A REUNION OF SORTS. THERE WILL BE GUIDED TOURS, LIVE ENTERTAINMENT, FOOD AND DANCING TOURING THE WEEK-LONG EVENT, CELEBRATING THE CULTURE AND HISTORY OF THE PRESTON TOWNSHIP. TOM MURPHY TAKES US THERE. [ * ]>>Reporter: IT’S A CELEBRATION THAT HAS QUITE LITERALLY BEEN CENTURIES IN THE MAKING.>>IT’S TIME THAT WE NEED TO CELEBRATE.>>Reporter: A HOMECOMING, ATTRACTING PEOPLE FROM AROUND THE WORLD TO A SMALL HANDFUL OF NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES DOTTED WITH DESCENDANTS OF AFRICAN SLAVES WHO CAN TRACE THEIR ROOTS IN THE PROVINCE BACK TO THE 1600 LZ.>>I LIKE TO SAY HISTORY STARTS AS FAR BACK AS WEST AFRICA FOR THOSE OF US IN NORTH PRESTON.>>Reporter: MANY OF THEIR ANCESTORS ESCAPED SLAVERY AND CAME TO WHAT WAS SCRUBLAND, BARREN AND ROCKY. WHO COULD SURVIVE? THEY DID. BUILDING A COMMUNITY THAT IS NOW 5,000 STRONG.>>SO NOVA SCOTIA CAN BE KNOWN AS THE BIRTHPLACE OF BLACK CULTURE AND HERITAGE IN CANADA, WITH SOME OF THE OLDEST AND LARGEST BLACK COMMUNITIES HERE IN THIS PROVINCE. THOSE COMMUNITIES, YOU KNOW, ARE GENERATIONS’ OLD.>>Reporter: SHAPED BY DIVERSITY OVER THE GENERATIONS THEY SCHOOLED THEIR CHILDREN, FIELDED FINE SPORTS TEAMS AND SOMEHOW MADE DUE. [ * ]>>Reporter: AND THROUGH IT ALL, THE BEAT OF THE BAPTIST CHURCH. THE HEART OF THEIR COMMUNITIES.>>IT SORT OF PAYMENTS A PICTURE THAT — PAINTS A PICTURE THAT DESPITE THE STRUGGLES, DESPITE THE ADVERSITY, WE HAVE FAITH TO MOVE FORWARD. IT’S AN EXAMPLE FOR ALL THE DIVERSE CULTURES HERE IN THIS COUNTRY THAT WE STILL CAN LOOK AT TODAY AND SAY, YOU KNOW, IT’S A REMARKABLE FEAT TO BE ABLE TO TAKE A BAD SITUATION AND MAKE IT A POSITIVE SITUATION.>>Reporter: A COMMUNITY THAT HAS HAD TO ENDURE POVERTY AND PREJUDICE. ON THIS DAY, CELEBRATING ITS SUCCESSES, NOT ITS SHORT COMINGS. SHOWING OFF THE CULTURE, HISTORY AND ACHIEVEMENTS, REMINDING PEOPLE ABOUT ALL THAT MAKES IT UNIQUE.>>THE FACT THAT WE HAVE SURVIVED ALL THOSE MANY YEARS AND THE FACT THAT WE THOUGHT THAT WE WERE VERY POOR, BUT WE WERE RICH IN MANY ASPECTS.>>Reporter: IT’S BEEN SAID YOU CAN NEVER GO BACK HOME AGAIN ONCE YOU LEAF. BUT FOR SO MANY HERE, HOME HAS NEVER LEFT THEM. [ * ] TOM MURRAY, CBC NEWS, CHERRY BROOK, NOVA SCOTIA.>>Ian: UP NEXT ON “THE NATIONAL”, HOW TWO FIVE-YEAR-OLD GIRLS SURVIVED BEING ADRIFT AT SEA.>>I WAS, YOU KNOW, SWIMMING AS FAST AND HARD AS I COULD AND I WASN’T GETTING ANYWHERE NEAR THEM.>>Ian: THEIR RESCUE IS NEXT IN THE “MOMENT”. BUT FIRST… [ * ] IN CASE YOU MISSED IT, INSIDE THE HALLS OF THE NORWICH CATHEDRAL IN EASTERN ENGLAND — [ * ]>>HELTER SKELTER. THE FAMOUS FAIR GROUND RIDE IS 16 METRES HIGH, TAKES 36 STEPS TO GET UP AND MERE SECONDS TO SLIDE BACK DOWN.>>IT’S QUITE TRICKY, BUT I TUCKED IN AND HELD ON TIGHT. IT WAS REALLY FUN.>>IT WAS GOOD AND FAST.>>Ian: IT’S PART OF THE CATHEDRAL SEEING IT DIFFERENTLY PROJECT. IN THIS CASE, HELTER SKELTER OFFERS AN UP-CLOSE VIEW OF THE MEDIEVAL ROOF AND STAINED GLASS WINDOWS.>>WE’RE DEALING WITH A GREAT DIVERSITY OF PEOPLE IN OUR NATION. AND IF WE’RE GOING TO REACH OUT TO LOTS OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE, WE HAVE TO USE DIFFERENT METHODS TO REACH THEM.>>Ian: THE ROCHESTER CATHEDRAL TWO HOURS SOUTH OF NORWICH HAS TAKEN A SIMILAR APPROACH, INSTALLING A MINI GOLF COURSE.>>THIS IS ABOUT PEOPLE HAVING FUN IN THE CATHEDRAL. IT’S ALSO A SERIOUS EDUCATIONAL PURPOSE.>>Ian: THERE ARE THOSE SAYING THIS IS A GIMMICK, SOMETHING THAT CHURCH OFFICIALS DISMISS.>>Ian: BUT WHETHER IT’S WORKING?>>DID IT GET YOU>>Ian: WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A FUN DAY AT THE BEACH TURNED TERRIFYING FOR A FAMILY IN NOVA SCOTIA THIS WEEK WHEN THESE TWO FIVE-YEAR-OLD GIRLS STARTED DRIFTING OUT TO SEA ON THE FLOAT TOYS. THE ADVENTURE HAPPENED IN A SHALLOW SECTION OF THE NORTHUMBERLAND STRAIT. ONE OF THE SISTERS NOTED THEY WERE FLOATED AWAY, ALERTED THE MOTHER, SHE JUMPED IN THE WATER, BUT THEY NEEDED MORE HELP. THE MOMENT, THE RESCUE, THE REUNION. THAT IS OUR MOMENT TONIGHT.>>I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS GOING THE MOMENT I REMEMBER FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE AS THE WORST MOMENT OF MY LIFE. I WAS SWIMMING AS FAST AND HARD AS I COULD AND I WASN’T GETTING NEAR THEM. AT THAT POINT I HOLLERED TO THE GIRLS, I’M GOING TO CALL TO HELP, STAY ON THE FLOATIES, DON’T LET GO. LUCKILY, ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT MY DAUGHTER FOUND HAD A PHONE ON THEM AND QUICKLY CALLED 911. THEY WERE SO FAR I COULDN’T SEE THEM. LIKE WHEN THE RESCUE BOAT FINALLY CAME, WE COULD SEE A DOT. IT FELT LIKE FOREVER. THE GUY WITH THE RADIO SAID, ARE BOTH GIRLS THERE ON THE FLOATIES? AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE. I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO BE SICK. AND THEN THEY SAID, WE HAVE BOTH GIRLS, THEY’RE ON BOARD WITH US AND THEY’RE BOTH SAFE. I’M CRYING AND HUGGING HER AND TELLING HER HOW PROUD I AM AND HOW BRAVE SHE WAS. THE FIRST THING SHE SAID WAS, MUMMY, WE WENT WAY OUT IN THE SEA.>>WE TOUCHED ON THE SORRY LAST NIGHT. THINK — STORY LAST NIGHT. THINK ABOUT IT, AN HOUR MIGHT NOT SOUND LIKE A LONG TIME UNTIL YOU PICTURE THE FIVE-YEAR-OLDS FLOATING SO FAR OUT THE MOM COULDN’T STAY WITH THEM. I FIND IT SO MIND BOGGLING. AND A SHUTOUT TO THE WALLACE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT. THEY JUST RECENTLY GOT A BOAT. FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER THEY GOT A CALL SAYING TWO FIVE-YEAR-OLDS ARE ADRIPT, THEY DID THE RESCUE AND THIS IS A STORY WITH A HAPPY ENDING. THAT IS “THE NATIONAL” FOR AUGUST 9. GOOD NIGHT. [ * ]

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