The National for April 21, 2019 – Sri Lanka Bombings, Eastern Canada Flooding


(*)>>Rosemary: TONIGHT… DEADLY EXPLOSIONS RIP THROUGH SRI LANKA ON EASTER SUNDAY. THE ATTACKS WERE COORDINATED, DEADLY, AND TARGETED. BUT WHO IS RESPONSIBLE? (*)>>>QUÉBEC CALLS IN THE ARMY AS FLOODWATERS RISE AGAIN.>>AND NOW ALL OVER AGAIN. IT SEEMS LIKE A NIGHTMARE.>>Rosemary: IS THE PROVINCE BETTER PREPARED THIS TIME AROUND? (*)>>YOU WILL SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES IF YOU BURN OUT. BURNOUT IS A REAL PHYSICAL THING.>>Rosemary: MORE AND MORE OF US ARE OVERWORKED, OVERSTRESSED AND ON THE EDGE, RETHINKING HOW WE WORK TO BATTLE BURNOUT.>>>THIS IS “THE NATIONAL.” (*) (*)>>>THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT HOLY DAY OF THE CHRISTIAN FAITH, EASTER SUNDAY, SIGNIFIES RESURRECTION AND REDEMPTION FOR BILLIONS AROUND THE WORLD BUT TODAY IN SRI LANKA IT WAS A DAY OF HORROR AS COORDINATED ATTACKS KILLED HUNDREDS IN THREE CITIES. THE ATTACKERS STRUCK THREE CHURCHES IN THE MIDDLE OF EASTER SERVICES. IN BATTICALOA AND NEGOMBO AND THE CAPITOL COLOMBO WHERE FIVE OTHER TARGETS WERE ALSO HIT, INCLUDING LUXURY HOTELS. IN ALL MORE THAN 200 PEOPLE DIED IN EIGHT SEPARATE EXPLOSIONS. AMONG THE DEAD ARE DOZENS OF FOREIGNERS, MORE THAN 450 WERE INJURED. AUTHORITIES HAVE ARRESTED MORE THAN A DOZEN PEOPLE, THOUGH THEY BELIEVE MOST OF THE ATTACKERS DIED IN THE BLAST. OUR PAUL HUNTER HAS MORE ON THE SHOCK AND OUTRAGE OF THE DAY.>>Reporter: EASTER SUNDAY. AND THE BLOOD, THE ANGUISH, AND THE HORROR IN SRI LANKA SEEMED EVERYWHERE. MULTIPLE CHURCHES AND MULTIPLE HOTELS IN AND AROUND THE CAPITAL STRUCK BY SUICIDE BOMBERS. THE SAVAGERY SEEMED RELENTLESS. THE SURVIVORS RUSHED TO OVERWHELMED HOSPITALS. SOME ON SHEETS OF PLYWOOD INSIDE ANY CARS THAT COULD MAKE THE DESPERATE TRIP.>>[speaking foreign language].>>Reporter: I HEARD THE EXPLOSION AND THEN THE ROOF FELL ON US, SAID THIS MAN WHO WAS AT ONE OF THE CHURCHES HIT, WE TOOK THE CHILDREN AND RAN. THE CHURCHES, ALL CHRISTIAN, THE HOTELS, ALL POPULAR WITH FOREIGNERS. AND THOUGH AUTHORITIES SAY THAT THE ATTACKS WERE COORDINATED, LITTLE ELSE IS KNOWN OF WHAT OR WHO IS BEHIND THEM. SRI LANKAN PRIME MINISTER RANIL WICKREMESINGHE TOURED ONE OF THE BOMBED CHURCHES AND BLAMED THE RELIGIOUS EXTREMISTS.REMESINGHE TOURED ONE
OF THE BOMBED CHURCHES AND BLAMED THE RELIGIOUS EXTREMISTS.>>[speaking foreign language].>>Reporter: AUTHORITIES WILL BE GIVEN ALL THE POWERS THEY WANT TO FIND THOSE RESPONSIBLE, HE SAID, WE CAN’T ALLOW THESE KINDS OF CRIMES TO TAKE PLACE. IT’S BEEN A DECADE SINCE SRI LANKA HAS SEEN THIS KIND OF VIOLENCE. UNTIL THEIR DEFEAT IN 2009, TAMIL SEPARATISTS MADE SUICIDE BOMBINGS COMMONPLACE IN THAT COUNTRY FOR YEARS. SOME WONDER IF THEY’RE NOW BACK AT IT. OTHERS SUGGEST ISLAMIC EXTREMISTS. THOUGH RADICALIZED ISLAMISTS HAVE NO HISTORY OF SUCH STUFF IN SRI LANKA. MEANWHILE, IT’S EMERGED THAT AUTHORITIES WERE WARNED SUCH ATTACKS WERE LOOMING. POLICE GOT A LETTER 10 DAYS AGO REFERENCING SUICIDE BOMBS AND PROMINENT CHURCHES, BUT DIDN’T ALERT THE GOVERNMENT. AS THE INVESTIGATORS NOW CONSIDER THAT TOO, THERE’S A CURFEW IN PLACE AND A NUMBER OF SOCIAL MEDIA SITES HAVE BEEN BLOCKED AMID WORRIES THAT MISINFORMATION COULD STIR UP MORE VIOLENCE. WHILE SO MANY SRI LANKANS GRIEVE IN AGONY. PAUL HUNTER, CBC NEWS, WASHINGTON.>>Rosemary: AS PAUL MENTIONED THERE, THERE’S BEEN NO FORMAL CLAIM OF RESPONSIBILITY BUT SECURITY ANALYSTS ALREADY POINT TO SOME CLUES THAT THE INVESTIGATORS WILL USE TO DETERMINE WHO WAS BEHIND THIS AND THE MESSAGE THAT THE ATTACKERS WERE TRYING TO SEND.>>THIS IS A COMPLETELY NEW DYNAMIC, A NEW ASPECT OF TERRORISM THAT THE COUNTRY HAS NOT WITNESSED BEFORE.>>Rosemary: THE COUNTRY OF 22 MILLION HAS SEEN SO MUCH HORROR, THROUGH 30 YEARS OF CIVIL WAR. BUT THIS IS DIFFERENT. SECURITY EXPERT SAJJAN GOHEL SAYS THIS ATTACK WAS NOT ABOUT DOMESTIC TENSIONS. IT WAS CLEARLY MEANT TO HURT WESTERNERS AND CHRISTIANS ON A DAY OF WORSHIP.>>AND WHEN WE SEE AN ATTACK THAT IS COORDINATED, MULTIPLE DESIGNS TO TARGET A PARTICULAR RELIGIOUS OR ETHNIC GROUP AND ALSO TO CREATE ECONOMIC DAMAGE, THEN THOSE ARE THE HALLMARKS OF A POWERFUL TRANS NATIONAL TERRORIST ACTOR.>>Rosemary: HE SAYS THAT THE GOAL SEEMS TO BE TO PREY ON A COUNTRY THAT IS FRAGILE IN ITS PEACE AND TARGET A COUNTRY STILL DIVIDED FROM WAR. VIOLENCE HAS STILL SPUTTERED UP THROUGH THE YEARS BETWEEN RELIGIOUS COMMUNITIES. SRI LANKA IS PRIMARILY BUDDHIST WITH MAINLY HINDU AND MUSLIM COMMUNITIES, JUST 6% CATHOLIC. JUST LAST YEAR A STATE OF EMERGENCY WAS DECLARED AFTER THE VIOLENCE BETWEEN BUDDHISTS AND MUSLIMS FLARED. THIS ATTACK SEEMS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE PRESSURES.>>THIS WAS DESIGNED TO CREATE MAXIMUM DEVASTATION. THE SAME IDEOLOGY THAT WE HAVE SEEN USED IN TERRORIST ATTACKS IN EUROPE AND IN NORTH AMERICA AND IN AUSTRALIA. AND IT HAPPENS ALSO IN THE DEVELOPING WORLD AND SRI LANKA IS A TIMELY EXAMPLE OF WHY WE SHOULDN’T IGNORE THAT THREAT.>>Rosemary: THE VIOLENCE WILL REOPEN OLD WOUNDS AND EVEN WITHOUT ANYONE CLAIMING RESPONSIBILITY YET IT SHOWS TERRORISM KNOWS NO BORDERS. NO CANADIANS HAVE BEEN REPORTED KILLED OR INJURED IN THE ATTACKS, BUT OTTAWA IS WARNING CANADIANS IN SRI LANKA THAT MORE ATTACKS ARE POSSIBLE. AND THAT HAS ONLY HEIGHTENED THE FEAR AND CONCERN AMONG THE SRI LANKAN COMMUNITY IN THIS COUNTRY. CAMERON MacINTOSH HAS THEIR REACTION TONIGHT.>>Reporter: BONDED IN FRIENDSHIP AND FAITH, TORONTO HARVEST MISSIONARY CHURCH WORKS IN SRI LANKA DIRECTLY WITH BATTICALOA ZION CHURCH, ONE OF THE THREE HIT IN THE BOMBINGS. MANY IN THIS CONGREGATION HAVE PERSONAL CONNECTIONS AND HAVE TRAVELLED THERE. ANGELINE SAHAJANATHAN’S FATHER LED THE CONGREGATION HERE THROUGH AN EASTER SERVICE RIFE WITH GRIEF AND TENSION.>>RIGHT NOW WE’RE JUST WAITING FOR THEIR SAFETY AND HEAR HOW THEY’RE DOING SO WE’RE ANTSY RIGHT NOW.>>Reporter: UNDER SOCIAL MEDIA LOCKDOWN, GETTING INFORMATION IS DIFFICULT. FROM EARLY REPORTS SOME FAMILIES DID CONFIRM THE WORST. IN CALGARY DILINA FERNANDO FOUND OUT THAT HIS COUSIN WAS AMONG THOSE KILLED.>>WE HOPE THAT THE NUMBERS DON’T CONTINUE TO RISE BECAUSE EVERY MINUTE THEY’RE SAYING THAT THE DEATH TOLL IS GETTING HIGHER AND HIGHER AND THIS IS JUST HARD TO HEAR.>>AND THEN WE GO TO MY NEXT MESSAGE FROM MY UNCLE IN THE U.K. AND SAYING THAT HIS WIFE’S SISTER WAS INJURED.>>Reporter: FOR RAM SELVARAJAH, A MEMBER OF CANADA’S SIZEABLE TAMIL COMMUNITY, IT’S BEEN A LONG DAY ON HIS PHONE. THOSE ATTACKS, HE SAYS, STRIKE HARD IN A COMMUNITY THAT LIVED THROUGH DECADES OF CIVIL WAR.>>THIS IS ESPECIALLY CONCERNING, YOU KNOW, WE’RE COMING UP TO THE 10th ANNIVERSARY OF THE WAR IN SRI LANKA BEING OVER AND SUDDENLY, YOU KNOW, THERE’S 200 PEOPLE KILLED ON A SUNDAY CHURCH SERVICE.>>Reporter: AT THIS TAMIL CATHOLIC CHURCH IN MONTRÉAL, CLERGY ARE ALARMED AT THE SPECIFIC TARGETING OF CHRISTIANS.>>TO HAVE SUCH KIND OF TERROR ATTACKS AND ON THIS FEAST OF EASTER, IT SHOULD BE CONDEMNED.>>Reporter: THE SERVICES THAT WERE ATTACKED WERE KNOWN TO BE BUSY, DRAWING BIG CROWDS. THIS YEAR TOO CROWDED FOR KEVIN WARNAKULASURIYA’S MOTHER, WHO CALLED TO TELL HIM THAT SHE LEFT RIGHT BEFORE THE ATTACK.>>SHE TOLD ME THAT THERE WAS AN EXPLOSION AND WE ARE GOOD, DON’T WORRY ABOUT IT.>>Reporter: BACK AT HARVEST MISSIONARY CHURCH IT’S JUST A LOT TO PROCESS.>>JUST SEEING THAT, JUST PUTS A BURDEN ON YOUR HEART.>>Reporter: THE SCALE AND BRUTALITY OF IT ALL WILL TAKE A WHILE TO SINK IN. CAMERON MacINTOSH, CBC NEWS, WINNIPEG.>>Rosemary: AND GLOBAL REACTION CONTINUES TO POUR IN AS THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY SHARES ITS GRIEF AND OUTRAGE, INCLUDING FROM BRITAIN’S FOREIGN MINISTER WHO CONDEMNED THE ATTACKS AS “SICKENING.” INDIA’S PRIME MINISTER AND PAKISTAN’S PRIME MINISTER SAY THAT THEIR COUNTRIES STAND WITH SRI LANKA. AND POPE FRANCIS CONDEMNED THE CRUEL VIOLENCE DURING HIS EASTER MESSAGE IN ROME. AND IN A STATEMENT PRIME MINISTER JUSTIN TRUDEAU SAID, “CANADA STRONGLY CONDEMNS THESE HEINOUS ATTACKS… NO ONE SHOULD BE TARGETED BECAUSE OF THEIR FAITH.”>>>TURNING NOW TO A MAJOR STORY HERE IN CANADA. RISING FLOODWATERS ARE THREATENING PARTS OF NEW BRUNSWICK, QUÉBEC AND EASTERN ONTARIO. MORE THAN 2500 HOMES HAVE BEEN FLOODED AND MORE THAN 1,000 OTHER FAMILIES HAVE SOUGHT SHELTER.>>I MUST STRESS THAT THIS IS A VERY DIFFICULT AND HAZARDOUS VERY DIFFICULT AND HAZARDOUS SITUATION AND WE ARE CERTAINLY NOT OUT OF THE WOODS. IN FACT, WE’RE JUST ENTERING.>>Rosemary: DOZENS OF STREETS ARE UNDER WATER IN FREDERICTON WHERE THE SAINT JOHN RIVER IS RISING FAST. FLOODWATERS THERE SHOULD PEAK TOMORROW. IN EDMUNDSTON, THE FLOODING IS LESS SEVERE AND SHOULD START TO SUBSIDE ON WEDNESDAY. AND QUÉBEC IS HARDEST HIT IN TERMS OF THE NUMBERS, ESPECIALLY SOUTH OF THE CAPITAL. IN ONE SMALL CITY, SAINT-MARIE, AT LEAST 500 HOMES ARE FLOODED WITH THE RIVER RISING 25 CENTIMETRES AN HOUR. AROUND MONTRÉAL THEY’RE BRACING FOR THEIR RETURN. IN NEARBY RIGAUD 25 HOMES HAVE FLOODED AND A HUNDRED ARE AT RISK. FURTHER WEST, THE OTTAWA RIVER THREATENS COMMUNITIES IN BOTH QUÉBEC AND ONTARIO.>>IT’S SHOCKING TO SEE. I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE IT BEFORE.>>Rosemary: A 72-YEAR-OLD WOMAN DIED YESTERDAY WHEN A ROAD WAS WASHED OUT.>>>THERE’S A STRONG SENSE OF DÉJÂ-VU IN MANY OF THESE AFFECTED AREAS. JUST TWO YEARS AGO THEY WENT THROUGH A SIMILAR ORDEAL AND TONIGHT SIMON NAKONECHNY FOCUSES ON QUÉBEC TO SEE HOW THEY’RE BETTER PREPARED.>>Reporter: THEY CALLED IN THE BIG GUNS EARLY THIS TIME. CANADIAN FORCES ROLLED INTO THREE REGIONS OF THE PROVINCE TODAY. THEIR MISSION? TO SHORE UP SHORELINES AGAINST RISING WATERS. SOME ENDED UP SLINGING SANDBAGS IN THEIR OWN BACKYARD.>>THERE’S AN EXCITEMENT BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE GOING TO HELP SOME PEOPLE AND WE ARE HELPING OUR NEIGHBOURS BECAUSE WE’RE FROM LAVAL.>>Reporter: BUT ELSEWHERE IT WAS ALREADY TOO LATE. IN THE BEAUCE REGION SOUTH OF QUÉBEC CITY, HUNDREDS OF HOMES WERE ALREADY FLOODED. ALAIN HAD TO BE EVACUATED BY BOAT. I’VE GOT THE CLOTHES ON MY BACK, HE SAYS. THE REST OF THE STUFF IS ALL SCRAP, IF YOU ASK ME. IT’S PROBABLY FLOATING FROM ONE END OF THE STREET TO THE OTHER. HOMEOWNERS BRACED FOR THE WORST YET TO COME. MELTING SNOW FURTHER UP NORTH WILL SOON BE RUSHING DOWNSTREAM.>>I’M REALLY SCARED THIS YEAR, YEAH. BECAUSE WE DON’T KNOW WHEN IT WILL HAPPEN — TOMORROW — TONIGHT? AFTER TOMORROW? GOD KNOWS. [laughter]>>Reporter: HERE IN LAVAL, PALETTES OF SANDBAGS LINE THE STREETS. MANY RESIDENTS HAVE ALREADY PUT UP MAKESHIFT FLOOD BARRIERS IN FRONT OF THEIR HOMES. THIS HOUSE GOT FLOODED IN 2017 AND THIS TIME ITS OWNER ISN’T TAKING ANY CHANCES. HE’S ALREADY RAISED IT BY OVER A METRE.>>I WASN’T THERE TWO YEARS AGO AS PREMIER, BUT I THINK THAT WE ALL LEARNED LESSONS, YEAH.>>Reporter: IN 2017, LEVELS HAD ALREADY SPIKED BY THE TIME THAT THE ARMY WAS CALLED IN. THIS TIME EVERYONE IS ACTING FASTER.>>WELL, WE’VE GOT TWO PUMPS GOING 24 HOURS AROUND THE CLOCK AND THE WATER IS COMING IN FASTER THAN IT’S BEING PUMPED OUT.>>Reporter: FOR NOW QUEBECERS ARE TRYING THEIR BEST TO PROTECT THEMSELVES AND THEIR HOMES. BESIDES THAT THERE’S NOT MUCH TO DO EXCEPT WATCH AND WAIT FOR THE WATER. SIMON NAKONECHNY, CBC NEWS, LAVAL, QUÉBEC.>>Rosemary: SO WHEN THE RISING WATERS THREATEN YOUR HOME YOU CAN FACE AN EXCRUCIATING DILEMMA. NEW BRUNSWICK AUTHORITIES DROVE THAT HOME TODAY.>>SO WE HAVE BEEN TALKING A LOT ABOUT RISING WATER AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO ALSO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON’T IGNORE THE FACT ABOUT RISING STRESS AND TENSION. SOME OF THE LEADING CAUSES OF THIS STRESS IS PEOPLE I KNOW TORN BETWEEN WANTING TO STAY IN THEIR RESIDENCES, WANTING TO PRESERVE THEIR PROPERTY, SET AGAINST THE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THEIR OWN PERSONAL SAFETY.>>Rosemary: IN FREDERICTON ALONE, 200 HOMES HAVE BEEN AFFECTED. THE PROVINCE HASN’T ORDERED ANY MANDATORY EVACUATIONS BUT COMMENDED RESIDENTS WHO CHOSE TO LEAVE VOLUNTARILY.>>>STILL IN NEW BRUNSWICK, THE CITY OF MIRAMICHI ARE MOURNING FOUR TEENAGERS WHO DIED AFTER A LATE-NIGHT CRASH.>>WE HAVE SOME FAMILIES WHO ARE REALLY, REALLY HURTING. AND WE ARE A COMMUNITY IN GRIEF.>>Rosemary: THE TEENS WERE KILLED WHEN THE VEHICLE THEY WERE IN WENT OFF THE ROAD, FLIPPED OVER AND LANDED UPSIDE DOWN IN DEEP WATER. THE CITY’S MAYOR WAS CLEARLY SHAKEN.>>AND MY HEART BREAKS FOR THOSE FOUR YOUNG LIVES LOST, LOGAN MATCHETT AND AVERY ASTLE AND CASSIE LLOYD AND EMMA CONNICK AND FOR THEIR FAMILIES.>>Rosemary: POLICE SAY THAT WHILE IT’S EARLY THERE’S NO INDICATION THAT DRUGS OR ALCOHOL PLAYED A ROLE.>>IT’S A VERY TRAGIC EASTER SUNDAY THAT WE GATHER ON HERE TODAY.>>Rosemary: ALL OF THE VICTIMS WERE BETWEEN 16 AND 18 YEARS OLD.>>>TRAGEDY TOO BEING FELT TODAY IN P.E.I. AFTER THE DEATH OF A PROVINCIAL GREEN PARTY CANDIDATE AND HIS LITTLE BOY. JOSH UNDERHAY AND 6-YEAR-OLD OLIVER WERE KILLED IN A CANOEING ACCIDENT JUST DAYS BEFORE THE ISLANDERS GO TO THE POLLS. KAYLA HOUNSELL HAS THE STORY.>>Reporter: IN CHARLOTTETOWN A SIGN OF AN UPCOMING ELECTION OVERSHADOWED BY TRAGEDY. BUT IN THIS DISTRICT ALL OTHER PARTY SIGNS HAVE COME DOWN AS A SYMBOL OF RESPECT FOR JOSH UNDERHAY AND HIS SON, OLIVER. THEIR BODIES WERE FOUND FRIDAY AFTER THEY FAILED TO RETURN TO A PICKUP SPOT ALONG THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER.NDERHAY AND HIS SON, OL
IVER. THEIR BODIES WERE FOUND FRIDAY AFTER THEY FAILED TO RETURN TO A PICKUP SPOT ALONG THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER.>>IT WAS JUST A SHOCK AND VERY HARD TO PROCESS AND STILL IS RIGHT NOW.>>Reporter: MIKE CONNOLLY KNEW UNDERHAY THROUGH ONE OF HIS GREATEST PASSIONS — CYCLING.>>GREAT HUMAN BEING, CYCLING ADVOCATE, ALL AROUND GOOD PERSON.>>Reporter: UNDERHAY RODE TO SCHOOL EVERY DAY. HE WAS A TEACHER. (*) * MY ONLY FRIEND WAS A MAN IN THE MOON *>>Reporter: UNDERHAY TAUGHT GRACIE MacBETH SOCIAL STUDIES AND FRENCH BUT SHE WAS ALSO INSPIRED BY HIS LOVE OF MUSIC AND LIFE LESSONS.>>DON’T JUDGE SOMEONE BECAUSE THEY’RE DIFFERENT BECAUSE EVERYONE HAS THEIR OWN STORY.>>Reporter: SHE SAYS THAT UNDERHAY TALKED TO HIS STUDENTS ABOUT THE ELECTION AND TOLD THEM THAT HE WANTED TO RUN TO MAKE THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE FOR KIDS, INCLUDING HIS OWN CHILDREN. HE LEAVES BEHIND HIS WIFE KARRI AND ANOTHER SON, LINDEN. A GOFUNDME PAGE HAS RAISED TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FOR THEM IN JUST TWO DAYS.>>BECAUSE HE USED TO SHOW VIDEOS OF HIS KIDS IN THE CLASSROOM AND PICTURES AND HE’D JUST TELL US HOW PROUD HE WAS THAT THEY WERE SPEAKING FRENCH, BECAUSE THEY COULD SPEAK BETTER FRENCH THAN ANY OF US COULD. AND HE WAS REALLY PROUD OF THEM.>>Reporter: PROVINCIAL GREEN PARTY LEADER PETER BEVAN-BAKER SAYS THAT UNDERHAY BROUGHT HUMOUR AND ENERGY TO EVERY SITUATION. ALL PARTIES AGREED TO SUSPEND CAMPAIGNING FOR THE WEEKEND.>>IT SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT P.E.I. AS A PROVINCE, AND THE PEOPLE AND ABOUT JOSH.>>Reporter: THE VOTE IN UNDERHAY’S DISTRICT HAS BEEN CANCELLED. A BY-ELECTION WILL BE HELD IN THREE MONTHS. KAYLA HOUNSELL, CBC NEWS, CHARLOTTESTOWN.>>Rosemary: THE REST OF P.E.I. WILL VOTE ON TUESDAY AS PLANNED. YOU CAN WATCH ON CBC NEWS NETWORK STARTING AT 6:00 p.m. EASTERN, ON CBC LOCAL, ON CBC TELEVISION. AND YOU CAN STREAM IT TOO ONLINE STARTING AT 5:00 p.m. EASTERN.>>>FROM PROVINCIAL TO THE FEDERAL ELECTION. IN EXACTLY SIX MONTHS, IF ALL GOES ACCORDING TO PLAN, CANADIANS WILL CAST THEIR BALLOTS. AND RIGHT NOW JUSTIN TRUDEAU AND HIS LIBERALS FIND THEMSELVES TRAILING IN THE POLLS. OF COURSE HALF A YEAR IS A LONG TIME IN POLITICS AND A LOT CAN CHANGE FROM NOW UNTIL OCTOBER 21st. PARTIES HAVE ALREADY BEGUN TESTING THEIR MESSAGES AND SHARPENING THEIR ATTACKS. OLIVIA STEFANOVICH BREAKS DOWN THE ROAD AHEAD FOR ALL THE LEADERS.>>Prime Minister Justin Trudeau: I WILL NOT MAKE PERSONAL ATTACKS AND I WILL NOT USE ANGER, DIVISION AND FEAR, BECAUSE CANADIANS ARE BETTER THAN THAT. [Applause]>>Reporter: THIS IS NOT THE POSITION THE PRIME MINISTER WANTS TO BE IN SIX MONTHS AWAY FROM ELECTION DAY. INSTEAD OF DEFENDING HIS RECORD, JUSTIN TRUDEAU FINDS HIMSELF ON THE ATTACK.>>Prime Minister Justin Trudeau: ANDREW SCHEER HAS PROUDLY SPOKEN AT THE SAME RALLIES AS WHITE NATIONALISTS.>>SHAME!>>Prime Minister Justin Trudeau: IS THAT LEADERSHIP? IS THAT SOMEONE WHO WILL GOVERN FOR ALL CANADIANS?>>NO!>>Reporter: THE LIBERALS ARE DRAGGING IN THE POLLS 2.5 POINTS BEHIND THE CONSERVATIVES. THEIR STEADY LEAD IS ZAPPED BY THE SNC-LAVALIN AFFAIR. THE CONTROVERSY PROMPTED THE RESIGNATION OF TWO CABINET MINISTERS AND TRUDEAU’S RIGHTHAND MAN WHO HELPED TO DESIGN THE LAST CAMPAIGN AND NOW LIKELY WON’T BE PART OF THIS ONE.>>CERTAINLY, FOR THE LIBERALS THEY DO HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO TURN THINGS AROUND BUT IT’S UNUSUAL FOR AN INCUMBENT GOVERNMENT TO BE BEHIND AFTER JUST ONE TERM IN POWER.>>Reporter: HISTORICALLY PRIME MINISTERS WHO HAVE FOUND THEMSELVES TRAILING IN THE POLLS THIS CLOSE TO AN ELECTION HAVE BEEN DEFEATED OR REDUCED TO A MINORITY GOVERNMENT. THIS WILL BE BOTH ANDREW SCHEER AND JAGMEET SINGH’S FIRST CAMPAIGN AS LEADERS. POLITICAL STRATEGISTS SAY THIS IS THE OPPOSITION’S OPPORTUNITY TO STRIKE.>>I DON’T THINK THAT ANDREW SCHEER IS YET KNOWN TO CANADIANS. I THINK THAT THIS CAMPAIGN WILL BE HIS COMING OUT PARTY.>>Reporter: WHILE SCHEER IS GETTING A BOOST FROM A COALITION OF CONSERVATIVE PREMIERS, IT ALSO COMES WITH RISKS.>>THE MORE ALLIES YOU’VE GOT, THE MORE PEOPLE WHO CAN SAY SOMETHING — THE MORE PEOPLE THERE ARE THAT CAN SAY SOMETHING THAT CAN LAND YOU IN HOT WATER.>>Reporter: AND THE TORIES ALSO HAVE MAXIME BERNIER’S PEOPLE’S PARTY OF CANADA TO COMPETE WITH. MEANWHILE, N.D.P. LEADER JAGMEET SINGH IS TRYING TO GET HIS TIME IN THE SPOTLIGHT. HIS PARTY IS POLLING IN THIRD.>>HE WILL HAVE WORK TO DO BECAUSE STILL TO THIS DAY HE’S AN UNKNOWN QUANTITY.>>Reporter: DIFFERENT CHALLENGES THAT DIFFERENT PARTY LEADERS HAVE TO ADDRESS AS THEY COUNT DOWN TO THIS FALL’S ELECTION. OLIVIA STEFANOVICH, CBC NEWS, OTTAWA.>>Rosemary: TO OTHER STORIES THAT WE’RE WATCHING TONIGHT ON “THE NATIONAL”…>>>A MAN CAUGHT IN AN AVALANCHE YESTERDAY IN BRITISH COLUMBIA’S YOHO NATIONAL PARK HAS DIED. PARKS CANADA SAYS THAT THE ACCIDENT THOUGH WAS NOT RELATED TO TUESDAY’S AVALANCHE THAT KILLED THREE CLIMBERS IN BANFF NATIONAL PARK.>>>AND IN COLOMBIA, THE CREWS ARE BUSY DIGGING THROUGH RUBBLE AFTER HEAVY RAINS UNLEASHED LANDSLIDES. OFFICIALS SAY AT LEAST 14 PEOPLE ARE DEAD AND FIVE OTHERS INJURED.>>>STILL TO COME… FEELING BURNED OUT BY THE JOB? YOU’RE NOT ALONE. TONIGHT WE KICK OFF OUR SERIES ON HOW THE STRESS OF MODERN WORK IS AFFECTING CANADIANS.>>>BUT NEXT… A COMEDIAN IS ELECTED TO BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE AND IT’S NO JOKE.>>CONGRATULATIONS WITH A 72% WINNING.>>Rosemary: CHRIS BROWN IS IN KYIV WITH WHAT IT MEANS FOR RUSSIA AND THE WEST. (*) (*)>>Rosemary: HIS ONLY POLITICAL EXPERIENCE WAS PLAYING A FICTIONAL PRESIDENT ON TV AND NOW HE’S HEADED FOR A LANDSLIDE VICTORY IN UKRAINE’S REAL-LIFE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. VOLODYMYR ZELENSKIY’S CAMPAIGN HAS BEEN ANYTHING BUT CONVENTIONAL. HE EVEN STARTED WITH A BANG. HE ANOWBSED HIS BID AT THE STROKE OF MIDNIGHT ON NEW YEAR’S EVE. MANY SAID IT WAS A P.R. STUNT BUT ZELENSKIY INSISTED ALL ALONG THAT HIS CAMPAIGN IS NO LAUGHING MATTER. AND NOW DESPITE HAVING FEW CLEAR POLICIES AND BEING VAGUE ABOUT WHAT HE ACTUALLY STANDS FOR, HE’S ON HIS WAY TO THE COUNTRY’S TOP OFFICE. OUR CHRIS BROWN IS AT THE ZELENSKIY HEADQUARTERS IN THE CAPITAL OF KYIV.>>Reporter: WELL, TONIGHT VOLODYMYR ZELENSKIY NOT ONLY REWROTE THE RULES OF POLITICS IN UKRAINE, BUT ALL POST-SOVIET STATES BY MASSIVELY WINNING A COMPETITIVE FAIR ELECTION. HE ASKED VOTERS TO GIVE HIM A MANDATE TO CLIP THE WINGS OF THE OLIGARCH CLASS THAT HAVE MADE DECISIONS HERE FOR DECADES AND HE GOT IT. THERE WAS NO NEED TO WAIT BEYOND THE FIRST EXIT POLLS, SECONDS AFTER THE VOTING ENDED, VOLODYMYR ZELENSKIY WAS PREDICTED TO TAKE MORE THAN 70% OF THE VOTE. ON TV, HOW MOST UKRAINIANS GOT TO KNOW THE 41-YEAR-OLD COMIC IS THIS ORDINARY MAN CHARACTER THAT ALMOST ACCIDENTALLY GETS ELECTED PRESIDENT. BUT HIS REAL-LIFE CAMPAIGN WAS STRATEGIC, USING SOCIAL MEDIA TO ENERGIZE YOUNGER VOTERS. AND THEN IN THE CAMPAIGN’S FINAL SPECTACULAR SOCCER STADIUM DEBATE, PETRO POROSHENKO, THE CHOCOLATE MAGNATE, WHO LED UKRAINE FOR FIVE YEARS, SLAMMED ZELENSKIY’S LACK OF A COHERENT PLATFORM AND HE SAID THAT ZELENSKIY WOULDN’T BE ABLE TO STAND UP TO RUSSIA’S VLADIMIR PUTIN. ZELENSKIY SAID THAT HE’LL END THE WAR WITH RUSSIAN-SUPPORTED SEPARATISTS BUT HE HASN’T SAID HOW. UKRAINE’S ANEMIC ECONOMY WAS A BIGGER WORRY SO VOTERS OPTED FOR A TOTAL CHANGE OF DIRECTION.>>[SPEAKING RUSSIAN]>>Reporter: TONIGHT HE GAVE NO IMMEDIATE HINTS ABOUT FILLING IN DETAILS ON HIS LONG TO-DO LIST, THERE’S NO PROPHETIC SPEECHES, HE SAID, ACCEPTING THE VICTORY — THANK YOU.>>THIS IS HOPEFULLY AN HISTORIC TURNING POINT WHERE THE OLD OLIGARCH SYSTEM IS FINALLY BROKEN AND WHERE CORRUPTION IS TAKEN CARE OF. IT’S ONE THING FOR ZELENSKIY TO WIN AND IT’S ANOTHER FOR HIM TO PASS THROUGH LEGISLATION THROUGH A VERY DIVIDED PARLIAMENT.>>Reporter: WESTERN NATIONS, ESPECIALLY CANADA WERE BIG SUPPORTERS OF POROSHENKO AND IN CAPITALS EVERYWHERE TONIGHT THEY’LL BE WONDERING HOW THAT FOREIGN HELP FITS INTO VOLODYMYR ZELENSKIY’S PLANS. CHRIS BROWN, CBC NEWS, KYIV.>>Rosemary: STILL TO COME WHAT SOME BANKS ARE DOING WITH INFORMATION ABOUT YOUR CREDIT AND DEBIT CARDS. A B.C. WOMAN “GOES PUBLIC.”>>>BUT STRAIGHT AHEAD OUR NEW SERIES, OVERWORKED AND UNDER STRESS. TONIGHT HOW WE THINK ABOUT OUR JOBS CAN ONLY MAKE THE BURNOUT WORSE.>>THE PROBLEM WITH SAYING THAT YOU WORK HARD AND YOU’LL BE SUCCESSFUL, WHEN YOU FLIP IT, YOU’RE SAYING THAT IF YOU ARE NOT SUCCESSFUL YOU MUST NOT BE WORKING HARD ENOUGH.>>Rosemary: ANDREW SITS DOWN WITH STRATEGIST AND BESTSELLING AUTHOR RAHAF HARFOUGH. (*) (*)>>Rosemary: WORK IN CANADA IS CHANGING RAPIDLY. FOR SOME, THE FUTURE LOOKS BRIGHT. OTHERS ARE IN DECLINE. BUT REGARDLESS OF PROFESSION OR INCOME… MILLIONS OF CANADIANS HAVE ONE THING IN COMMON — THEY ARE STRESSED. A GROWING NUMBER FEEL COMPLETELY BURNED OUT FOR A HOST OF REASONS. FEAR THAT TECHNOLOGY WILL MAKE THEM OBSOLETE. SALARIES THAT DON’T GROW, EVEN WHILE LIFE GETS MORE EXPENSIVE BY THE DAY. MANY CANADIANS ARE SIMPLY WORKING THEMSELVES INTO THE GROUND WITH SERIOUS IMPACTS TO THEIR MENTAL AND PHYSICAL HEALTH. SO THIS WEEK WE’RE GOING IN DEPTH ON THE PROBLEM OF BURNOUT, WHAT IT MEANS FOR WORKERS, FAMILIES, EMPLOYERS AND TONIGHT WE ZERO IN ON THE GROWING NUMBER OF CREATIVE PROFESSIONALS AND HOW OUTDATED IDEAS ABOUT PRODUCTIVITY ARE ACTUALLY MAKING THINGS WORSE. ANDREW SITS DOWN WITH A LEADING CANADIAN AUTHOR AND EXPERT TO DISCUSS THE WAY WE THINK ABOUT WORK.>>TODAY PRODUCTIVITY IS A INDIVIDUAL PURSUIT.>>Andrew: RAHAF HARFOUGH, SHE’S A CANADIAN THAT YOU MAY NEVER HAVE HEARD OF BEFORE, BUT YOU MAY RELATE TO THE MESSAGE SHE’S SPREADING. WE WORK TOO DAMNED HARD. AND IN THE 21st CENTURY THAT OUR VERY JOBS ARE CHANGING AND FROM THE FACTORY FLOOR TO THE KNOWLEDGE ECONOMY, TO WHO KNOWS, WE’RE ON A FAST TRACK TO TROUBLE. CONSIDER THIS — HARFUGH MADE A NAME FOR HERSELF A DECADE AGO VOLUNTEERING ON BARACK OBAMA’S 2008 PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN. THAT EXPERIENCE DROVE HER FIRST BOOK. AND SINCE THEN SHE’S BECOME A “THE NEW YORK TIMES” BESTSELLING AUTHOR, TRAVELLING THE WORLD AND STUDYING AND SPEAKING ABOUT THE IMPACT OF TECHNOLOGY ON PEOPLE, ON CULTURE. AND INCREASINGLY ON HOW WE DEFINE WORK AND HOW WORK DEFINES US. BUT FAST FORWARD TO 2016, HER LIFE CAME TO A CRASHING HALT. SHE WAS PARALYSED BY BURNOUT. AND AS A SELF-DESCRIBED CREATIVE WHO COULD NO LONGER CREATE, SHE HAD TO ASK HERSELF THE QUESTION — NOW WHAT? HER SOUL SEARCHING LED TO HER LATEST BOOK “HUSTLE AND FLOAT.” AND I SAT DOWN WITH RAHAF HARFOUGH RECENTLY IN TORONTO. RAHAF, VERY NICE TO HAVE A CHANCE TO CHAT WITH YOU.>>I’M SO EXCITED TO BE HERE.>>Andrew: SO WHAT WAS IT THEN — YOU TALK ABOUT KIND OF HITTING THAT BREAKING POINT. IN THE MOMENT, I MEAN, AS YOU OTHER THAN ARE WERE OVERWORKING, DID YOU KNOW, DID YOU REALIZE THAT IT WAS UNHEALTHY? THAT IT WAS HAVING A HARMFUL IMPACT ON YOU?>>FOR A LARGE PART OF MY WORKING LIFE IT WAS VERY MUCH FOCUSED AROUND THIS IDEA THAT I HAD TO DO MORE AND MORE AND MORE AND MORE IN ORDER TO REACH THIS SUCCESS. AND FOR ME WHAT ENDED UP HAPPENING WAS THAT I ENDED UP OVERWORKING. AND THEN HAVING AND SUFFERING FROM SEVERE HEALTH SETBACKS — BURNOUT, YOU KNOW, INSOMNIA, NOT BEING ABLE TO EAT AND NOT BEING ABLE TO SLEEP AND LOSING MY HAIR. AND ONCE YOU HIT THAT PHYSICAL WALL YOU’RE LIKE, OKAY, WELL, CLEARLY THE STRATEGY THAT I’LL OUTWORK EVERYONE ELSE BY DOING IT HARDER AND LONGER, THAT’S NOT GETTING ME CLOSER TO WHERE I WANT TO GO. AND MORE THAN THAT, IT’S RISKING EVERYTHING THAT IS IMPORTANT TO ME WHICH IS NOT ONLY MY MENTAL AND EMOTIONAL AND PHYSICAL WELL-BEING BUT MY IDEA TO GENERATE IDEAS THAT I NEED TO DO TO KEEP PAYING MY RENT AND TO BEING ABLE TO WORK.>>Andrew: SO PART OF ARRIVING AT THE POINT THAT I THINK THAT YOU HAVE ARRIVED AT A THINK IS SUMMED IN THE TITLE OF THE BOOK WHICH IS “HUSTLE AND FLOAT.” CAN YOU FIRST EXPLAIN WHAT THAT MEANS.>>SO “HUSTLE AND FLOAT” IS A TERM THAT I HEARD FROM A FAMILY FRIEND WHO WAS A RIVER GUIDE. IT’S A WHITEWATER RAFTING TERM AND IT’S USED TO DESCRIBE THE PERFECT TRIP. SO THE PERFECT WHITEWATER RAFTING TRIP HAS TWO PARTS. THERE’S PART WHERE YOU HUSTLE, WHERE THERE’S RAPIDS AND YOU HAVE TO PADDLE AS HARD AS YOU CAN TO NAVIGATE AND AVOID OBSTACLES AND GET TO WHERE YOU WANT TO GO. BUT THEN THERE’S THE EQUALLY IMPORTANT PART OF THE TRIP WHERE YOU LIFT YOUR PADDLES OUT OF THE WATER AND YOU LET THE RIVER DO THE WORK. AND THE RIVER CARRIES YOU. AND IF YOU HAVE TOO MUCH HUSTLE YOU’LL GET EXHAUSTED AND MAKE MISTAKES WHICH IS QUITE DANGEROUS. IF YOU HAVE TOO MUCH FLOW, IT’S BORING AND YOU DON’T HAVE ANY CONTROL WHERE YOU GO AND WHERE YOU END UP. AND I THINK THAT FOR CREATIVE PROFESSIONALS THAT’S THE PERFECT WAY TO DESCRIBE HOW WE NEED TO WORK AND HOW WE CAN BE CREATIVE.>>Andrew: RIGHT. AND SO THAT’S PERHAPS MY NEXT QUESTION — WHO PARTICULARLY SHOULD BE HUSTLING AND FLOATING?>>I MEAN, I THINK THAT ALL OF US. AND IN THE BOOK I USED THE TERM “PRODUCTIVE CREATIVE” BECAUSE I THINK THAT THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE TODAY THAT WORK IN KNOWLEDGE ECONOMIES WHERE YOU’RE AN ACCOUNTANT OR A LAWYER OR A BANKER OR A TEACHER OR A JOURNALIST OR A WRITER OR STRATEGIST, WE’RE ALL BEING PAID TO BE CREATIVE AT WORK. NOW THAT’S SOMETHING THAT IS A SKILLSET THAT WE’RE BEING FINANCIALLY COMPENSATED FOR. SO THAT MEANS THAT WE NEED TO START LOOKING AT HOW TO DESIGN SYSTEMS THAT ENABLE US TO DO THE BEST QUALITY LEVEL OF WORK, KNOWING THAT HISTORICALLY ALL OF THE SYSTEMS THAT WE ARE FORCED INTO ACTUALLY COME FROM INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION ERA TYPE THINKING. MEANING THAT IT WAS DESIGNED FOR A TYPE OF WORK THAT WE DON’T DO ANYMORE.>>Andrew: BUT EXPLAIN THAT FOR ME. I MEAN, THE TENSION BETWEEN BEING CREATIVE AND BEING PRODUCTIVE.>>WHAT’S INTERESTING IS THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT HOW MANAGEMENT THINKING DEVELOPED OVER TIME, IT CAME REALLY ON THE FLOOR OF FACTORIES AND IT CAME WITH THE IDEA THAT PRODUCTIVITY IS LINKED TO OUTPUT. YOU WENT ON THE ASSEMBLY LINE AND YOU DID X AMOUNT OF WIDGETS AND EVERY SINGLE DAY YOU HAD THE SAME AMOUNT OF PRODUCT THAT YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR PRODUCING. AND THAT’S HOW IT WAS FOR A LONG TIME. WITH KNOWLEDGE WORK WE DON’T PRODUCE WIDGETS AND WE DON’T PRODUCE CARS ON THE ASSEMBLY LINE. I CAN’T SAY TO YOU HOW MANY IDEAS ARE YOU GOING TO GET DONE AND HOW MANY IDEAS ARE YOU GOING TO PRODUCE IN AN EIGHT-HOUR DAY. IT DOESN’T WORK THAT WAY. BUT THOSE ARE THE BEST SYSTEMS THAT WE HAD TO MANAGE PEOPLE SO TOOK THIS COMPLEX TASK. WE SHOVED THEM INTO SYSTEMS THAT WERE DESIGNED FOR COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TYPE OF WORK. SO SUDDENLY YOU HAVE THIS EXPECTATION WHERE YOU HAVE TO BE PRODUCTIVE. PRODUCTIVE BEING CONTINUOUS OUTPUT. AND PRODUCTIVE BEING THAT YOU HAVE TO JUSTIFY EVERY MINUTE OF YOUR WORKING DAY. YOU’RE IN A CALL,YOU’RE IN A MEETING AND YOU’RE DOING THE WORK. AND ANYTHING THAT WASN’T CONSIDERED UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF PRODUCTIVITY WAS FROWNED UPON. IF YOU ARE TAKING A COFFEE BREAK, IF YOU’RE OUT FOR A WALK AND IF YOUR MANAGER DOESN’T SEE YOU SITTING AT YOUR DESK FROM 9:00 TO 5:00 IT’S CONSIDERED A WASTE OF TIME. BUT NOW WE KNOW HOW THE BRAIN WORKS, WE NEED THOSE BREAKS, AND THAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED A PART OF THE PROCESS AND NOT A DIVERSION FROM THE END GOAL.>>Andrew: SO WORKING HARD ISN’T NECESSARILY WORKING SMART. BUT HOW DOES THAT SQUARE WITH SOME OF THE BIGGEST SUCCESS STORIES OF OUR TIME? STEVE JOBS, A 14-HOUR WORKDAY, JUST A NORMAL DAY. ELON MUSK, MAKING HIS BED LITERALLY ON THE FACTORY FLOOR. BILL GATES, OPRAH, ALL ICONS OF A SUPER HUMAN WORK ETHIC.>>AND THE NUMBER ONE LESSON THAT I COULD OFFER YOU WHERE YOUR WORK IS CONCERNED IS THIS — BECOME SO SKILLED, SO VIGILANT, SO FLAT OUT FANTASTIC AT WHAT YOU DO THAT YOUR TALENT CAN NOT BE DISMISSED. [Cheers and Applause]>>REGARDLESS OF HOW THEY GET IT DONE, I THINK THAT MOST PEOPLE, THE SIGN SHOWS, THAT BURNOUT IS A REAL THING. THAT THESE MODELS OF OVERSUSTAINED OVERWORK FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME WILL CATCH UP WITH YOU. THERE WILL BE PEOPLE WHO WILL HAVE HEART ATTACKS. YOU WILL HAVE DEPRESSION AND ANXIETY AND YOU WILL SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES IF YOU BURN OUT. BURNOUT IS A REAL PHYSICAL THING. SO I THINK THAT IT’S VERY MISLEADING TO LOOK AT THESE PEOPLE AND SAY, OH, WELL, OVERWORK HAS IT DONE. BECAUSE I THINK THAT THE MEDIA ONLY SHOWS US ONE PART OF THE PICTURE. I MEAN, I GO BACK TO THE EXAMPLE IN THE BOOK OF BEYONCÉ WHERE YOU LOOK AT BEYONCÉ. AND YOU LOOK AT EVERYTHING THAT SHE’S ACCOMPLISHED — WEALTH, FAME, POWER, RIGHT? BUT SHE HERSELF WAS SO BURNT OUT IN 2011 THAT SHE HAD TO TAKE AN ENTIRE YEAR OFF. I THINK THAT MANY TIMES WE TALKS ABOUT THE LIGHT PART, LIKE THE EXCITING PART. WE DON’T TALK ABOUT THE SHADOWS. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PERCENTAGE OF ARTICLES WRITTEN ABOUT HER THERE WERE SO MANY WRITTEN ABOUT HER WORK ETHIC AND SO MANY WRITTEN HOW HARD SHE WORKS AND HOW LONG SHE WORKS. AND VERY FEW THAT WERE WRITTEN ABOUT THE FACT THAT SHE HAD TO TAKE AN ENTIRE YEAR OFF TO PHYSICALLY AND MENTALLY RECOVER.>>Andrew: BUT I FEEL THAT THERE MUST BE A WHOLE SUBSET OF PEOPLE WHO KIND OF WEAR THAT AS A BADGE OF HONOUR TOO, RIGHT? THEY DERIVE A SENSE OF PRIDE FROM THE FACT THAT THEY’RE WORKING SO HARD.>>THIS IS WHAT IS THE REALLY FASCINATING THING IS THAT CULTURALLY THE RITUALS THAT WE HAVE DEVELOPED AROUND HOW WE TALK ABOUT WORK AND AROUND HOW WE LINK OUR IMPORTANCE TO HOW HARD WE WORK — NOT EVEN JUST THE JOB THAT WE DO, THAT’S NOT IMPORTANT ENOUGH ANYMORE. IT’S NOT JUST THE JOB THAT WE DO BUT HOW HARD WE WORK AT IT. THAT GOES COUNTER TO ALL OF THE ACTUAL THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO TO BE HEALTHY AND TO BE MORE CREATIVELY PROSPEROUS.>>Andrew: WHEN YOU SAY THAT I’M THINKING WHEN YOU GO TO A PARTY, WHAT IS THE FIRST QUESTION THAT YOU ASK SOMEONE –>>WHAT DO YOU DO?>>Andrew: WHAT DO YOU DO. SO IS THAT — I MEAN, SO TO WHAT EXTENT THEN HAVE OUR IDENTITIES BECOME SO — SO INTERTWINED WITH WORK? I MEAN, YOU ARE WHAT YOU DO. IS THAT KIND OF WHAT YOU’RE GETTING AT HERE?>>MOST PEOPLE ARE WORKING FOR THE MAJORITY OF THEIR DAY. SO, OF COURSE, THAT’S GOING TO BE THE THING THAT YOU FALL BACK ON WHEN YOU CONSIDER YOUR IDENTITY AND WHO YOU ARE, BECAUSE MANY PEOPLE AT THE END OF A LONG DAY DON’T HAVE THE ENERGY OR THE TIME TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP ALL OF THESE OTHER DIFFERENT PARTS OF THEIR IDENTITY BECAUSE THEY’RE TIRED. BECAUSE THEY’RE WORKING 80 HOUR WORK WEEKS.>>Andrew: SO TO SOMEONE LIKE OPRAH WHO SAYS, WORK HARD AND SUCCESS WILL COME YOU WOULD SAY –>>MY PROBLEM WITH SAYING, WORK HARD AND YOU’LL BE SUCCESSFUL, WHEN YOU FLIP IT, WHAT YOU’RE TELLING PEOPLE IF YOU’RE NOT SUCCESSFUL YOU MUST NOT BE WORKING HARD ENOUGH. AND I THINK THAT IS A VERY SAD MESSAGE, A VERY DANGEROUS MESSAGE BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE — THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY THAT WILL WORK THREE PART-TIME JOBS JUST TO MAKE ENDS MEET. ARE THEY NOT WORKING HARD ENOUGH? THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ON TOP OF WORKING A FULL-TIME JOB HAVE AGING PARENTS AND KIDS TO TAKE CARE OF, HAVE FAMILY OBLIGATIONS AND HAVE KIDS TO RAISE AND HAVE ALL OF THESE OTHER THINGS THAT THEY HAVE TO DO. ARE THEY — SHOULD THEY BE WORKING HARDER AT THEIR JOBS AND IGNORING ALL OF THESE OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES? TO ME THIS IS JUST A FUNDAMENTAL NEED TO REDEFINE WHAT SUCCESS IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN A WAY THAT IS MORE SUSTAINABLE, A BIT MORE COMPASSIONATE. BECAUSE MANY OF THESE PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE TALK ABOUT ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE BENEFIT OF HAVING A LOT OF SUPPORT SYSTEMS IN PLACE. HAVING THE MONEY TO BE ABLE TO MAYBE HIRE EXTRA STAFF AND HIRE NANNIES AND HIRE COOKS, TRAVEL, BUY A JET, ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT ENABLE THEM TO GET MORE THINGS DONE. I THINK THAT THE AVERAGE PERSON CAN’T LOOK AT THAT AS A STANDARD AND THEN FEEL GUILTY AND SHAME THEMSELVES BECAUSE THEY’RE JUST STRUGGLING TO MAKE ENDS MEET. BECAUSE SALARIES HAVEN’T RISEN AND BECAUSE THERE’S LIKE WAGE STAGNATION, BECAUSE OF ALL OF THESE OTHER ECONOMIC FACTORS. AND WE SAY, NONE OF THAT IS A BIG THING, YOU REALLY SHOULD BE WORKING HARDER. I SAW SOMETHING ON INSTAGRAM THE OTHER DAY THAT SAID IF YOU’RE NOT GOING WHERE YOU WANT TO BE IN YOUR LIFE, HAVE YOU XRRD WHAT YOU’RE DOING BETWEEN 7:00 p.m. AND 12:00 a.m.? THIS IS THE NARRATIVE THEY WANT TO FIGHT AGAINST, NOT WORKING HARD AND DREAMING BIG AND NOT SACRIFICING SOME THINGS TO BUILD BIG THINGS BUT THIS IDEA OF WHAT SUCCESS LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT IS REQUIRED FOR US TO GET THERE, I THINK THAT THERE’S DEFINITELY ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT.>>Andrew: I THINK THAT IS A GOOD POINT TO WRAP THE INTERVIEW. RAHAF, REALLY NICE TO TALK TO YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.>>THANK YOU SO MUCH.>>Rosemary: A LOT TO THINK ABOUT THERE AS OUR BURNOUT SERIES CONTINUES THIS WEEK. WE’RE GOING TO LOOK AT HOW WORKING FROM HOME MIGHT ACTUALLY HURT YOU. HOW OTHER COUNTRIES DEAL WITH WORKPLACE BURNOUT. AND OUR PANEL OF EXPERTS WORK ON DESIGNING A BETTER HEALTHIER WORKPLACE. TOMORROW WE LEARN WHY HOW IT’S NOT JUST HOW WE WORK THAT MATTERS, IT’S WHEN. NEW RESEARCH REVEALS THAT BURNING THAT MIDNIGHT OIL CAN HAVE SURPRISING EFFECTS ON YOUR HEALTH. EVEN IF YOU’RE ONLY TWEAKING YOUR HOURS, OUR HEALTH REPORTER CHRISTINE BIRAK EXPLAINS HOW SHIFT WORK AFFECTS THE BODY. THAT’S TOMORROW ON “THE NATIONAL.”>>>AS I SIT HERE LATE AT NIGHT HOSTING THE NEWSCAST. IF YOU DON’T ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH STRESS IN YOUR LIFE THERE’S SOMETHING ABOUT YOUR CREDIT OR DEBIT CARD INFORMATION THAT YOU MAY NOT KNOW BUT YOU SHOULD. “GO PUBLIC” IS NEXT.>>BANKS MAKE A BUSINESS OUT OF INFORMATION SHARING. THEY ACTUALLY HAVE SERVICES, VISA, MASTERCARD AND THEY ARE PAID TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION.>>THEY CAN’T JUST ASSUME THAT YOU’RE OKAY WITH THEM SHARING YOUR NEW CREDIT INFORMATION. (*) (*) (*) (*) [BELLS TOLLING]>>Rosemary: TODAY WORSHIPPERS DISPLACED BY THE FIRE AT NOTRE-DAME GATHERED AT ANOTHER CHURCH FOR EASTER SERVICES. SO MANY SHOWED UP THAT SOME HAD TO BE TURNED AWAY. THE MASS PAID TRIBUTE TO THE FIREFIGHTERS WHO BATTLED MONDAY’S INFERNO AS WELL AS THE BOMBING VICTIMS IN SRI LANKA. [Cheers and Applause]>>>AND POPE FRANCIS DELIVERED HIS TRADITIONAL EASTER MESSAGE FROM THE BALCONY OF ST. PETER’S. HE MENTIONED THE ATTACKS IN SRI LANKA AND APPEALED FOR PEACE IN THE WORLD’S CONFLICT AREAS. HE URGED PEOPLE TO BECOME BUILDERS OF BRIDGES, NOT WALLS. (*)>>>CHURCH ON EASTER SUNDAY MEANS A BIG ROYAL TURNOUT. BUT TODAY IS ALSO THE QUEEN’S 93rd BIRTHDAY. SHE WAS JOINED BY MANY MEMBERS OF HER FAMILY, INCLUDING GRANDSON PRINCE HARRY. BUT HIS WIFE, MEGHAN MARKLE, WHO IS DUE TO GIVE BIRTH ANY DAY DID NOT ATTEND THE SERVICE. (*) [BAGPIPES PLAYING]>>Rosemary: AND IF IT’S EASTER SUNDAY IN NEW YORK, YOU’RE LUCKY ENOUGH TO SEE HATS. 5th AVENUE WAS PACKED THIS MORNING FOR THE ANNUAL EASTER PARADE WHICH IS REALLY MORE OF A PROMENADE. SOME OF THE HEADGEAR LOOKED PRETTY SPECTACULAR. THE TRADITION DATES BACK TO THE 1800s. I’D TOTALLY GO SEE THAT.>>>A WARNING TONIGHT FOR THE MILLIONS OF CANADIANS WITH DEBIT OR CREDIT CARDS AFTER A BRITISH COLUMBIA WOMAN DISCOVERED INFORMATION ABOUT HER NEW CARD WAS SHARED WITH A COMPANY WITHOUT HER KNOWLEDGE. YOU MIGHT NOT KNOW IT, BUT DEPENDING ON THE CARD THAT MIGHT BE ALLOWED. ROSA MARCHITELLI FROM OUR “GO PUBLIC” UNIT INVESTIGATED AND FOUND THAT THE SYSTEM THAT IS SOLD AS SECURE DOESN’T ALWAYS WORK AS IT SHOULD.>>I DON’T LIKE INFORMATION OF MINE BEING GIVEN AROUND WITHOUT ME BEING AWARE OF IT.>>Reporter: ONE CALL AFTER ANOTHER.>>THEY SAID THEY DIDN’T GIVE THAT INFORMATION OUT TO PAYPAL.>>Reporter: NO ONE, NOT HER BANK NOR CREDIT CARD COMPANY OR PAYPAL WOULD EXPLAIN HOW PAYPAL GOT HER NEW EXPIRY DATE ON HER NEW CARD WHEN SHE DIDN’T WANT THE COMPANY TO HAVE IT. IT’S A DEBIT CARD THAT CAN BE USED FOR ONLINE PURCHASES.>>THEY SEEMED VERY CONFUSED AT ONCE.>>Reporter: LAST YEAR THEY EMAILED HER ASKING HER TO UPDATE THE CARD INFORMATION AND SHE IGNORED THE EMAIL AND NOT WANTING IT ONLINE AND THEN CAME A SECOND EMAIL.>>TWO DAYS AFTERWARDS I GOT ANOTHER EMAIL SAYING OH, WE ARE UPDATING IT FOR YOU, SO YOU DON’T HAVE TO AND I THOUGHT, WHAT?>>Reporter: AT FIRST PAYPAL TOLD HER THEY HAD A RIGHT TO HER INFORMATION AS PART OF AN UPDATING PROGRAMME. FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS CAN GIVE CUSTOMERS NEW CREDIT CARD INFORMATION TO BUSINESSES AND THAT INCLUDES ACCOUNT NUMBERS AND EXPIRY DATES. IT’S MEANT AS A CONVENIENCE. CUSTOMERS ARE AUTOMATICALLY OPTED IN WHETHER THEY KNOW IT OR NOT. AND THE DETAILS ARE OFTEN BURIED IN THOSE USER AGREEMENTS. THIS PRIVACY ADVOCATE SAYS THAT BANKS NEED TO BE MORE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT THEY’RE DOING.>>THEY CAN’T JUST ASSUME THAT YOU’RE OKAY WITH THEM SHARING YOUR NEW CREDIT INFORMATION.>>Reporter: AFTER “GO PUBLIC” STARTED ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT ACUNA’S CASE, THE STORY CHANGED. PAYPAL SAID THAT IT SHOULDN’T HAVE HAD HER INFORMATION AT ALL, SAYING THAT VISA DEBIT CARDS ARE NOT PART OF THE UPDATING PROGRAMME, ONLY CREDIT CARDS ARE. WHO SHARED THE INFORMATION AND WHY, NONE OF THE THREE COMPANIES COULD OR WOULD EXPLAIN.>>WHAT WE NEED IS PEOPLE TO BE AWARE OF THIS.>>Reporter: THE MERCHANTS WHO GET AUTOMATICKIC UPDATES PAID FOR THE SERVICE. THIS EXPERT WONDERS IF FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS SHOULD BE MAKING MONEY BY SELLING CUSTOMERS’ INFORMATION.>>BANKS MAKE A BUSINESS OUT OF INFORMATION SHARING AND THEY ACTUALLY HAVE SERVICES, VISA AND MASTERCARD AND THEY ARE PAID TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION.>>I’M CAPABLE OF PUTTING IN MY INFORMATION ONLINE IF I NEED TO AND IT’S NOT A HASSLE FOR ME SO I’D LIKE THE OPTION.>>Reporter: WE WENT BACK AND FORTH ON EMAIL WITH THE COMPANY AND T.D. MAINTAINED THAT IT DIDN’T GIVE THE INFORMATION TO PAYPAL, REFERRING US TO VISA. AND VISA SAYS THAT IT DIDN’T DO IT EITHER AND WE SHOULD PUT OUR QUESTIONS TO PAYPAL. PAYPAL ISN’T ANSWERING FURTHER QUESTIONS, CITING CONFIDENTIALITY. THOUGH ACUNA WAIVED CONFIDENTIALITY TO ALLOW THE COMPANY TO ANSWER “GO PUBLIC’S” QUESTIONS. ROSA MARCHITELLI, CBC NEWS, CALGARY.>>Rosemary: IF YOU’VE GOT A STORY THAT YOU WANT OUR “GO PUBLIC” TEAM TO TAKE A LOOK AT SEND AN EMAIL TO [email protected]>>>STILL TO COME, OUR “MOMENT,” HOW THE RESIDENTS OF A SASKATCHEWAN NURSING HOME GOT A FEW MOVES ON ROCKY. (*) (*) [ROCKY THEME MUSIC]>>Rosemary: THOSE GUYS ARE PROBABLY OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER THE LAST TIME THAT THE MAPLE LEAFS HOISTED A STANLEY CUP, IT WAS 1967. NOW THIS SEASON THEY ARE CANADA’S LAST CRACK AT THE CUP AND TODAY THEY FACED OFF AGAINST BOSTON WITH A CHANCE TO ADVANCE TO THE PLAYOFFS, SOMETHING THEY LAST DID IN 2004. GREG ROSS SPOKE TO YOUNG FANS, WELL, THEY DON’T REMEMBER ANY OF THAT.>>YOU’RE A GENERATION OF LEAF FANS WHO HAVE NEVER SEEN THEM PLAY IN THE SECOND ROUND OF THE PLAYOFFS.>>RIGHT. YEAH, I KNOW. IT’S GREAT. I CAN’T BELIEVE THAT THEY’RE GOING THIS FAR.>>Reporter: IS IT FRUSTRATING? I MEAN, YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT IT’S LIKE.>>WELL, I DON’T KNOW WHAT IT’S LIKE, YOU’RE CORRECT ON THAT. SO I THINK THAT IT’S ACTUALLY PRETTY FANTASTIC THAT WE WILL HOPEFULLY MAKE IT TO THE SECOND ROUND. IF WE LOSE TODAY I WOULD BE FRUSTRATED.>>WE HAVE BEEN IN A DROUGHT IN THE PAST COUPLE YEARS. BUT HOPEFULLY WITH THE POWER OF THE CITY AND THE POWER OF US WE CAN BRING IT BACK THIS YEAR.>>Reporter: ARE YOU GUYS — YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN THE AGONY AND YOU HAVE FELT THE AGONY?>>YEP.>>ALL THE TIME.>>FOR THE 18 YEARS OF MY LIFE I HAVE BEEN HOPING AND WISHING THAT THE DAY WOULD COME AND, YOU KNOW WHAT, TODAY IS THE DAY. THE LEAFS IN SIX AND WE’RE GOING TO MAKE IT ALL THE WAY.>>Rosemary: UNTIL NOW THESE YOUNGSTERS WANTED TO SEE THE LEAFS IN SECOND-ROUND PLAYOFFS THEY HAD TO WATCH VIDEOS.>>YEAH, THAT’S BEST I COULD DO UNTIL I GAIN THE EXPERIENCE OF 2004 AND WHAT HAPPENED IS TO WATCH THE VIDEOS AND LISTEN FROM OTHER PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN LEAF FANS FOR THEIR WHOLE LIFE. AND JUST LISTEN TO THEIR STORIES.>>DeBRUSK MOVING AND BACK TO DeBRUSK, HE SCORES!>>Rosemary: WELL, IT WASN’T TO BE. THE BRUINS BEAT THE LEAFS 4-2, THE SERIES IS TIED 3-3. AND THESE LONG-TIME RIVALS MEET AGAIN ON TUESDAY NIGHT IN BOSTON. THEN WE’LL SEE IF TORONTO’S TEAM CAN CARRY THE ENTIRE COUNTRY’S HOPES TO THE SECOND ROUND.>>BUT CAN YOU GUYS HANDLE THE STRESS?>>NO, NO, NOT REALLY.>>WE DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING. (*) (*)>>Rosemary: IN SWIFT CURRENT, SASKATCHEWAN, AN UNEXPECTED GROUP IS TAKING UP THE SPORT OF BOXING. SENIORS, AND THEY’RE LOVING IT! THEIR COACH IS NICK AND HIS GRANDFATHER WAS A RESIDENT OF A LONG-TERM CARE FACILITY CALLED THE MEADOWS UNTIL HE PASSED AWAY LAST SUMMER. SO NICK DECIDED TO CREATE THIS PROGRAMME TO HONOUR HIS GRANDFATHER AND THAT’S TONIGHT’S “MOMENT.”>>I WASN’T REALLY SURE HOW I WAS GOING TO APPROACH IT, BUT I WAS REALLY FAMILIAR WITH THE MEADOWS BECAUSE MY GRANDPA PASSED AWAY THERE LAST YEAR. I WANTED TO GIVE BACK AND I DECIDED TO TRY TO DO A COUPLE WORKOUTS WITH THEM TO SEE WHAT WE COULD DO. AT FIRST WE WERE WORRIED ABOUT THE IMPACT THAT IT MIGHT BE TOO ROUGH ON THEIR HANDS SO WE STARTED WITH THINGS LIKE JUST BLOWING UP BALLOONS AND LETTING THEM PUNCH THAT. AND THEN WE GOT THE HAND PADS OUT AND SAW IF THEY COULD HANDLE THAT IMPACT. SO THEY WERE ABLE TO DO THAT. AND THEN WE WERE ABLE TO GET POOL NOODLES FOR THEM TO HIT AND WE WOULD SWING AT THEM AND THEY’D HAVE TO DODGE THEM IN THEIR WHEELCHAIRS THIS WAS FUN TOO. IN MANY WAYS WE GOT TO SEE THEIR STRENGTH IMPROVE AND THEIR MOBILITY AND BALANCE IMPROVE. WE ALSO SAW THEM BUILD THEIR CONFIDENCE SOCIALLY. THEY REALLY LIKED BEING THERE AND SHOWED UP TO PRACTISE A LITTLE BIT EARLY. AND THEY GOT A GREAT BOND TOO. AND A LOT OF TIMES THEY JUST WANT TO TALK AND HANG OUT. IT WAS A GREAT WAY TO JUST KIND OF CONNECT THE COMMUNITY AND MAKE EVERYTHING COME AROUND.>>Rosemary: LOVE THAT! THAT WAS A SIX-WEEK PROGRAMME BUT THEY’RE GOING TO PROBABLY TRY IT AGAIN IN THE FALL. OVER THE SUMMER NICK SAYS THAT SOME OF THEM WILL CHECK OUT HIS GYM AND HIS RING THOUGH THEY WON’T DO ANY ACTUAL SPARRING. LOVE TO SEE THAT KIND OF STUFF.>>>THAT’S “THE NATIONAL” FOR THIS EASTER SUNDAY. HAPPY EASTER IF YOU’RE CELEBRATING. AND IT’S ALSO APRIL 21st. THANK YOU FOR WATCHING. GOODNIGHT. (*) (*)

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