The National April 3, 2017


(*)>>Peter: GOOD EVENING, I’M PETER MANSBRIDGE, AND THIS IS “THE NATIONAL.”>>>A CURE IS IN SIGHT AT LAST FOR A BOY WHO HAS SUFFERED FOR YEARS FROM A MYSTERY ILLNESS.>>Interview: IT WOULD BE NICE BECAUSE I WOULDN’T HAVE TO GO TO THE DOCTORS CONSTANTLY.>>Peter: CBC INVESTIGATES CELLPHONE SURVEILLANCE THAT COULD REACH THE HEART OF THE GOVERNMENT.>>Interview: YOU CAN LISTEN TO THE CALLS AND YOU CAN READ THE TEXT MESSAGES.>>Peter: AND “THE INSIDERS” ARE HERE TO GIVE US LEADERSHIP 101. WHEN IT COMES TO HOW THE LEADERSHIP RACES SHOULD WORK, COULD WORK OR MIGHT WORK. IF YOU’RE WONDERING WHO IS GOING TO WIN NEXT MONTH WHEN THE CONSERVATIVES MEET, YOU MIGHT WANT TO WATCH THIS. (*)>>>IT DOESN’T HAPPEN OFTEN, A BRAND-NEW DISEASE DISCOVERED, MAKING A CURE FOR MYSTERIOUSLY SICK PATIENTS POSSIBLE. BUT TODAY DOCTORS AT TORONTO SICKKIDS HOSPITAL SAID THEY’VE DONE JUST THAT WITH THE HELP OF A LITTLE BOY. AND FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME THE 10-YEAR-OLD NOW HAS REAL HOPE TO LIVE A NORMAL LIFE. CHRISTINE BIRAK HAS THE STORY.>>Interview: I’LL JUST SHOW YOU…>>Reporter: DANIEL NEVINS-SELVADURAI HAS BATTLED MORE HEALTH CRISES THAN MOST PEOPLE FACE IN A LIFETIME AND IT ALL STARTED WITH A ROUTINE TRIP TO HOSPITAL WHEN DANIEL WAS JUST A BABY.>>Interview: I JUST THOUGHT THAT SOMEONE WAS GOING TO TELL ME THAT HE HAD THE FLU AND I REMEMBER SORT OF GOING INTO THE ROOM WHERE HE WAS AND THERE MUST HAVE BEEN ABOUT 10 PEOPLE JUST OVER HIM AND HE HAD TUBES AND HE HAD OXYGEN MASK.>>Reporter: THE DOCTORS SAID THAT DANIEL HAD SUFFERED A STROKE. THERE WAS NO PERMANENT DAMAGE BUT FOR YEARS TO COME HE WOULD GO FROM ONE MEDICAL EMERGENCY TO ANOTHER. DANIEL RECALLS LONG CONFUSING VISITS TO DOCTORS’ OFFICES.>>Interview: I WOULD GET BORED BY NOT KNOWING WHAT THEY SAID BECAUSE I HAD NO CLUE WHAT THEY SAID. I HAD ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE.>>Reporter: AND HERE AT SICKKIDS, DOCTORS WERE LOOKING FOR CLUES. DANIEL HAD BEEN SEEN BY EVERY SPECIALIST — BLOOD, SKIN, INFECTIOUS DISEASE AND NO ONE COULD FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS CAUSING HIS SYMPTOMS BUT WHEN BLOOD STARTED SHOWING UP IN HIS STOOL ONE DOCTOR THOUGHT THAT IT WAS AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF THE PUZZLE.>>Interview: DANIEL WAS ONE OF MY FIRST PATIENTS AT SICKKIDS.>>Reporter: STOMACH SPECIAL SPECIALIST DR. ALEXIO MUISE SUSPECTED THAT DANIEL’S DISEASE WAS GENETIC. IT TOOK SEVEN YEARS BUT A RESEARCH GRANT AND CHANGING TECHNOLOGY HAS NOW HELPED TO IMPROVE IT.>>Interview: WE WERE ABLE TO SEQUENCE HIS D.N.A. AND FROM THAT WE WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY A MUTATION IN A SPECIFIC GENE THAT SORT OF EXPLAINED ALL OF THE SYMPTOMS THAT HE HAD.>>Reporter: IT WAS A MUTATION SCIENTIST HIS NEVER SEEN BEFORE, THE PROBLEM WAS WITH HIS PLATELETS, TINY BLOOD CELLS THAT HELP YOUR BODY TO PREVENT BLEEDING. A NORMAL PLATELET SPREADS LIKE A FRIED EGG BUT DANIEL’S HAD SPIKES ALL OVER IT. HE LACKED A PRO PROTEIN THAT WOULD HELP IT TO SPREAD EVENLY, A PROTEIN THAT RESEARCHERS THOUGHT THAT A HUMAN BEING COULDN’T SURVIVE WITHOUT.>>Interview: IT WAS REALLY EXCITING AND IT’S WHAT DRIVES US LATE HOURS INTO THE NIGHT IN THE LABORATORY TO CONTINUE ON WITH WHAT WE LIKE TO DO.>>Reporter: ALONG WITH DANIEL, DOCTORS HAVE NOW DIAGNOSED OTHER PATIENTS AROUND THE WORLD WITH THE SAME CONDITION. EXPERTS SAY THAT A BONE MARROW TRANSPLANT COULD COMPLETELY HEAL DANIEL BUT THEY NEED A DONOR MATCH.>>Interview: IT WOULD BE NICE BECAUSE I WOULDN’T HAVE TO GO TO THE DOCTORS CONSTANTLY AND WOULD BE JUST LIKE A NORMAL CHECKUP.>>Reporter: ANOTHER CHALLENGE THAT DANIEL AND HIS FAMILY ARE READY TO TAKE ON. CHRISTINE BIRAK, CBC NEWS, TORONTO.>>Peter: AT LEAST 11 PEOPLE ARE DEAD AND MANY MORE INJURED AFTER A BOMB WENT OFF IN ONE OF RUSSIA’S LARGEST CITIES. AN ATTACK JUST AS RUSSIAN PRESIDENT VLADIMIR PUTIN WAS VISITING. THE BLAST HAPPENED ON A TRAIN BEFORE RUSH HOUR IN THE HEART OF ST. PETERSBURG. AS IT WENT THROUGH A TUNNEL BETWEEN STATIONS, THE BOMB WENT OFF. NOW THE HUNT IS ON FOR POSSIBLE SUSPECTS. BUT AS THOMAS DAIGLE EXPLAINS, THERE ARE MORE THAN A FEW ENEMIES OF RUSSIA WHO COULD BE RESPONSIBLE.>>Reporter: THE FRENZY FOLLOWING THE EXPLOSION SHOWS EVEN A COUNTRY STRUCK BEFORE CAN NEVER FULLY PREPARE FOR THIS. TRAIN DOORS BLOWN OPEN, SMOKE FILLING THE ST. PETERSBURG’S METRO. THE RESULT OF AN EXPLOSIVE DEVICE APPARENTLY HIDDEN IN A BRIEFCASE, BLOWN UP IN A TUNNEL BETWEEN TWO STATIONS.>>Interview: [speaking foreign language].>>Reporter: THERE WAS A HUGE BANG, SHE SAYS, IT WAS DEAFENING. I WAS SITTING NEXT TO A METAL RAILING AND I THINK THAT IT SAVED MY LIFE. WHILE SOME WAITED DESPERATELY TO HEAR FROM LOVED ONES, AUTHORITIES SPOTTED AND DIFFUSED ANOTHER BOMB IN A SEPARATE SUBWAY STATION. THEY SHUTDOWN ALL OF ST. PETERSBURG’S BUSY METRO NETWORK THAT CARRIES TWO MILLION COMMUTERS A DAY.>>[speaking foreign language].>>Reporter: LAW ENFORCEMENT WILL DO ALL THEY CAN TO FIND THE CAUSE OF WHAT’S HAPPENED, PRESIDENT VLADIMIR PUTIN SAID. THE KREMLIN HAD ANNOUNCED HE’D BE IN ST. PETERSBURG, HIS HOMETOWN TODAY, MEETING WITH THE PRESIDENT OF BELARUS SO THE TIMING OF THE ATTACK IS LIKELY NO COINCIDENCE, SAYS THIS SECURITY EXPERT.>>Interview: THE MESSAGE TO PUTIN IS WE CAN HIT YOU CLOSE TO HOME AND IT’S QUITE AUDACIOUS AND IT SHOWS PROBABLY THAT THE PEOPLE INVOLVED KNEW THAT PUTIN WAS GOING TO BE THERE.>>Reporter: THOUGH NO GROUP HAS CLAIMED RESPONSIBILITY, RUSSIA’S RECENT HISTORY HAD CLUES ABOUT WHO DID IT. CHECHEN SEPARATISTS CARRIED OUT SUICIDE BOMBINGS IN A MOSCOW METRO IN 2010. AND PUTIN’S AIR CAMPAIGN SUPPORTING THE SYRIAN GOVERNMENT HAS MADE RUSSIANS A TARGET FOR ISIS. TONIGHT THE EXPLOSION IS SUSPECTED TO BE THE WORK OF A SUICIDE BOMBER BUT THE KREMLIN IS BEING CAREFUL TO NOT POINT FINGERS YET. WHOEVER IS RESPONSIBLE, THEY’VE LEFT A COUNTRY IN MOURNING. AS RUSSIA FIGHTS BATTLES ABROAD A VERY PUBLIC REMINDER TODAY THAT IT’S NOT IMMUNE TO VIOLENCE AT HOME. THOMAS DAIGLE, CBC NEWS, LONDON.>>Peter: THE C.E.O. OF BOMBARDIER TRIED TO END DAYS OF BAD PRESS FOR HIS COMPANY TODAY. THE AEROSPACE GIANT IS FACING A BACKLASH FOR ITS PLAN TO INCREASE THE EXECUTIVE BONUSES AFTER MISSING DELIVERY DEADLINES AND ACCEPTING MILLIONS IN LOANS FROM THE GOVERNMENT. JACQUELINE HANSEN HAS MORE.>>Reporter: BOMBARDIER’S C.E.O. ALAIN BELLEMARE TOOK THE UNUSUAL STEP OF DOING MULTIPLE MEDIA INTERVIEWS TODAY. A RUSHED AD HOC EFFORT TO DEFEND THE PROPOSED PAY HIKE FOR TOP EXECUTIVES, SAYING IT’S NEEDED TO ATTRACT THE BEST TALENT.>>Interview: OUR COMPENSATION IS BASED ON COMPARABLE LEVELS WITH OTHER LARGE COMPANIES.>>Reporter: YESTERDAY HUNDREDS PROTESTED THE MULTIMILLION DOLLAR RAISE THAT WOULD SEE THE TOP SIX EXECUTIVES GET A TOTAL OF $32.6 MILLION U.S. IN COMPENSATION, ABOUT A 50% PAY BUMP. BUT LAST NIGHT THE COMPANY IN A HASTY RETREAT SAID THAT HALF OF THAT WON’T BE PAID OUT UNTIL 2020 AND THAT THE DELAYED PAY WILL BE TIED TO PERFORMANCE.>>Interview: IF THERE’S NO VALUE CREATION FOR OUR SHAREHOLDERS OVER THE NEXT THREE, FOUR YEARS, IN 2020, THIS INCENTIVE COMPENSATION PORTION FOR THE TOP SENIOR EXECUTIVES COULD BE ZERO.>>Reporter: IN OTTAWA, THAT DIDN’T SATISFY OPPOSITION PARTIES, ANGRY THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT RECENTLY LOANED LONG STRUGGLING BOMBARDIER MORE THAN $370 MILLION.>>The Hon. Rona Ambrose: HE’S HANDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT IS BEING USED FOR BONUSES FOR BOMBARDIER EXECUTIVES ALL THE WHILE THERE’S 14,000 MIDDLE-CLASS WORKERS, IS THIS THE PRIME MINISTER’S WAY OF STANDING UP FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS? BECAUSE IF IT IS HE SHOULD SIT BACK DOWN.>>Reporter: BUT EVEN THE PRIME MINISTER SAID THAT HE WAS DISAPPOINTED.>>Prime Minister Justin Trudeau: WE’RE NOT PLEASED WITH THE DECISION THAT BOMBARDIER MADE AROUND ITS REMUNERATION FOR ITS EXECUTIVES.>>Reporter: A MONTREAL-BASED SHAREHOLDER RIGHTS GROUP SAYS THAT DELAYING THE PAY INCREASE IS HARDLY ENOUGH.>>Interview: AND THE C.E.O. AND THE EXECUTIVES MUST BE LIMITED BY A RATIO BETWEEN THEIR SALARY AND THE SALARY OF THE EMPLOYEES.>>Reporter: EXACTLY HOW BOMBARDIER PLANS TO TIE EXECUTIVES’ PAY TO FINANCIAL TARGETS OR WHAT THOSE TARGETS ARE IS UNCLEAR. BUT THE COMPANY STILL IS UNDER PRESSURE AND SCRUTINY AND PROMISES TO PUBLISH MORE DETAILS OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS. JACQUELINE HANSEN, CBC NEWS, TORONTO.>>Peter: MA LAA YOUSAFZAI WILL ADDRESS A JOINT SITTING OF PARLIAMENT NEXT WEEK. THE PAKISTANI ADVOCATE FOR GIRLS’ EDUCATION AND NOBEL PEACE PRIZE WINNER WAS MADE AN HONOURARY CANADIAN CITIZEN IN 2014. A CEREMONY TO HONOUR HER WAS CANCELLED BECAUSE OF THE ATTACKS ON PARLIAMENT HILL THAT DAY. YOUSAFZAI WILL MEET M.P.s AND SENATORS NEXT WEDNESDAY, APRIL 12th.>>>A MONTREAL-AREA LIBERAL M.P. STOOD IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS TODAY TO REITERATE HIS APOLOGY TO A CONSERVATIVE M.P. FOR COMMENTS HE MADE DURING A COMMITTEE MEETING.>>Interview: [Speaking French]>>Peter: THE COMMENT IN QUESTION WAS DIRECTED AT M.P. DIANNE WATTS AFTER HER CELLPHONE RANG. NICOLA DIIORIO ASKED HER WHERE WAS THE POLE. DI IORIO SAYS THAT IT WAS NEVER HIS INTENTION TO EMBARRASS ANYONE AND WATTS SAID THAT SHE HOPES THAT EVERYONE HAD LEARNED FROM THE MOMENT BUT SHE’D LIKE TO MOVE ON.>>>IF YOU WERE LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING CONNOR McDAVID PLAYING ALONGSIDE SIDNEY CROSBY FOR OLYMPIC GOLD YOU MAY BE OUT OF LUCK. THE NHL TODAY CLOSED THE DOOR ON THE I.O.C. AND SAID THAT IT WON’T PARTICIPATE IN THE NEXT GAMES. BUT SOME AREN’T CONVINCED THAT THERE WILL BE NO NHLers IN PYEONGCHANG. FAIZ JAMIL HAS THAT.>>Reporter: NHL PLAYERS IN OLYMPIC MOMENTS LIKE THIS… MAY BE NO MORE. NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN THE LEAGUE, PLAYERS AND THE INTERNATIONAL OLYMPIC COMMITTEE HAVE BEEN STALLED FOR MONTHS. MAINLY OVER THE NHL PUSHING FOR THE I.O.C. TO CONTINUE PAYING FOR PLAYERS’ TRAVEL AND INSURANCE COSTS AS WELL AS USING VIDEO FROM THE OLYMPICS. TODAY THE NHL RELEASED THIS STATEMENT… IN AN EFFORT TO CREATE CLARITY AMONG THE CONFLICTING REPORTS AND ERRONEOUS SPECULATION, THIS WILL CONFIRM OUR INTENTION TO PROCEED WITH FINALIZING OUR 2017-2018 REGULAR SEASON SCHEDULE WITHOUT ANY BREAK TO ACCOMMODATE THE OLYMPIC WINTER GAMES. WE NOW CONSIDER THE MATTER OFFICIALLY CLOSED. AROUND 15 MILLION CANADIANS WATCHED TEAM CANADA’S GOLD MEDAL GAME AT THE LAST WINTER OLYMPICS. THE PROSPECT OF NOT SEEING NHL STARS IS DRAWING MIXED REACTION FROM FANS.>>Interview: THE OLYMPICS ARE FOR AMATEUR ATHLETES AND NOT PROFESSIONALS, WHETHER IT’S HOCKEY OR BASEBALL OR BASKETBALL, THEY REALLY DON’T HAVE A PLACE IN THE OLYMPICS.>>Interview: WELL, OUR PLAYERS PLAY IN THE NHL SO THAT LEAVES US AT A DISADVANTAGE COMPETITIVELY, I GUESS.>>SCORES!>>Reporter: NONE OF THIS SHOULD COME AS A SURPRISE, SAY MANY HOCKEY COMMENTATORS, AS THE NHL’S COMMISSIONER GARY BETTMAN HAS BEEN HIBITTING AT THIS.>>Interview: GARY WORKS FOR 31 TEAM OWNERS NOW WITH LAS VEGAS JOINING THE NHL NEXT SEASON AND THE OWNERS DON’T WANT THE PLAYERS AND THEY DON’T WANT A THREE-WEEK BREAK IN THEIR SCHEDULE, AND SO AS DISAPPOINTING AS THIS IS, IT’S NOT SURPRISING TO ME ON ANY LEVEL.>>Reporter: THE LEAGUE ESPECIALLY DIDN’T LIKE THE FACT THEY COULDN’T GET RIGHTS TO USE VIDEO OF THEIR OWN PLAYERS FROM THE GAME.>>Interview: A COUPLE YEARS AGO IN RUSSIA THEY DIDN’T OFFICIALLY ANNOUNCE THAT PARTICIPATION UNTIL THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER.>>Reporter: THIS FORMER PLAYER, HOWEVER, SAYS THAT IT’S NOT OVER YET.>>Interview: MAYBE IT’S A BIGGER MESSAGE TO THE I.O.C. AND MAYBE THAT’S ENOUGH TO SPARK THEIR INTEREST TO COME BACK WITH MORE MEANINGFUL NEGOTIATIONS WHICH THE NATIONAL HOCKEY LEAGUE HAS WANTED ALL ALONG.>>Reporter: LATE TODAY THE NHL PLAYERS’ ASSOCIATION RELEASED A STATEMENT SAYING THEY’RE DISAPPOINTED WITH THE NHL’S DECISION. A SENTIMENT ECHOED BY MANY PLAYERS. FAIZ JAMIL, CBC NEWS, TORONTO.>>Peter: SPORTS FANS ARE CALLING IT ABSURD, DISGUSTING AND A DEBACLE BUT THIS TIME THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT GOLF AND WHAT HAPPENED DURING THE FIRST MAJOR TOURNAMENT ON THE WOMEN’S TOUR. SOMEONE WATCHING A ROUND FROM HOME ALTERED THE ENTIRE OUTCOME A FULL DAY AFTER PLAY ENDED AND BOTH FANS AND PLAYERS ARE TEED OFF. CHRIS BROWN EXPLAINS.>>Reporter: IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A CORONATION FOR U.S. GOLFER LEXI THOMPSON AHEAD IN A FINAL ROUND ON SUNDAY SHE GOT SOME BAD NEWS.>>Interview: IS THIS A JOKE?>>Interview: NO, IT’S NOT. IT’S NOT AT ALL.>>Reporter: UP FOUR STROKES WITH SIX HOLES TO PLAY AND SHE LOST HER LEAD IN AN INSTANT.>>Interview: IT JUST CAME TO US AND WE NEED TO INFORM YOU… FOUR STROKE PENALTY.>>Reporter: A RULES OFFICIAL BROKE THE NEWS THAT A TV VIEWER SPOTTED HER MISPLACING HER BALL ON A SHOT THE PREVIOUS DAY, A TEENY CENTIMETRE OR SO FROM WHERE SHE MARKED IT. TWO STROKES FOR THAT PLUS TWO MORE FOR SIGNING AN INCORRECT SCORECARD COST THE 22-YEAR-OLD A MAJOR CHAMPIONSHIP.>>Interview: YOU KNOW, IT’S UNFORTUNATE WHAT HAPPENED AND I DID NOT MEAN THAT AT ALL AND I DIDN’T REALIZE THAT I DID THAT.>>Reporter: GOLFERS OF ALL ABILITIES HAVE BEEN BEMOANING THE INJUSTICE EVER SINCE.>>Interview: YOU’RE TOLD THAT YOU GOT A FOUR STROKE PENALTY THE DAY BEFORE BECAUSE SOMEONE PHONED IN? THAT’S NONSENSE.>>HE SHOOTS, HE SCORES!>>Reporter: IMAGINE A NHL FINAL WHERE THE DISPUTED PLAY WOULD BE CHANGED THE NEXT DAY TO AFFECT THE RESULTS. ONLY GOLF ALLOWS SUCH BIZARRENESS.>>Interview: THE ONLY SPORT THAT SOMEONE CAN CALL IN OR EMAIL OR CONTACT OFFICIALS REGARDING AN ISSUE.>>Reporter: PRO GOLF HAS BEEN PLAGUED BY WEIRD RULINGS SUCH AS LAST YEAR’S U.S. OPEN WHEN DUSTIN JOHNSON WAS PENALIZED WHEN HIS BALL MOVED ON ITS OWN A MICROSCOPIC DISTANCE ON THE GREEN. OR IN 2013, WHEN A RETIRED RULES OFFICIAL AT HOME PHONED IN TO REPORT TIGER WOODS MAKING AN IMPROPER DROP.>>Interview: I THINK THEY’VE JUST GOT TO STOP ACCEPTING CALL-INS AND WRITE-INS FROM VIEWERS. IF THE PLAYER HERSELF AND HER COMPETITORS AND THE CADDIES AND THE RULES OFFICIALS, IF THEY CAN’T FIGURE OUT THAT SOMETHING HAPPENED THAT WAS AGAINST THE RULES OF GOLF, THEN PROBABLY NOTHING HAPPENED THAT ACTUALLY AFFECTED THE OUTCOME OF THE TOURNAMENT SO JUST LET IT GO AT THAT.>>Reporter: ON SUNDAY AFTER A PLAYOFF, EVEN VICTORIOUS SO YEON RYU SAID SHE FELT AWFUL FOR LEXI THOMPSON. PRO GOLF IS PLANNING A RULES UPGRADE FOR 2019 AND TODAY A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SAYING THAT THIS HAS TO BE ONE OF THE FIXES. CHRIS BROWN, CBC NEWS, VANCOUVER.>>Peter: STRAIGHT AHEAD… WE FIND SIGNS OF CELLPHONE SURVEILLANCE ON PARLIAMENT HILL. THERE’S AN AWFUL LOT AT RISK. (*) (*) (*)>>Peter: SOMEONE IS TRACKING CELLPHONES, MAYBE EVEN LISTENING TO CONVERSATIONS, OR READING TEXTS IN OTTAWA. DEVICES THAT CAN INTERCEPT MOBILE DEVICES HAVE BEEN FOUND NEAR PARLIAMENT HILL AND OTHER SENSITIVE LOCATIONS. WHAT’S NOT CLEAR IS WHO PUT THEM THERE. WELL, THE DEVICES ARE SOMETIMES USED BY CANADIAN SECURITY AGENCIES THEY CAN ALSO BE PLANTED BY INDIVIDUALS OR EVEN FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS WITH MORE NEFARIOUS INTENTIONS, SO WHO COULD BE LISTENING? CATHERINE CULLEN HAS THE CBC NEWS RADIO-CANADA INVESTIGATION.>>Reporter: RIGHT NEAR THE CENTRE OF CANADIAN DEMOCRACY, WHERE DECISIONMAKERS WORK, WITH NATIONAL DEFENCE PLANS ARE MADE, EVEN WITHIN RANGE OF THE PRIME MINISTER’S OWN OFFICE WE FOUND THEM. THEY ARE DEVICES KNOWN AS IMSI CATCHERS, OPERATING IN THE HEART OF CANADA’S CAPITAL. AN IMSI CATCHER IS A MACHINE THAT PRETENDS TO BE A CELLPHONE TOWER TO ATTRACT NEARBY CELL SIGNALS. WHEN IT DOES THAT IT CAN INTERCEPT THE UNIQUE I.D. NUMBER ASSOCIATED WITH YOUR PHONE. THE INTERNATIONAL MOBILE SUBSCRIBER OR IDENTITY OR IMSI AND THAT CAN CAPTURE YOU. AND THEY CAN READ YOUR TEXT MESSAGES AND LISTEN IN TO YOUR CALLS. SO HOW DID WE FIND OUT THAT AN IMSI CATCHER WAS BEING USED IN OTTAWA? WELL, WE GOT ONE OF THESE AND IT’S A SPECIAL CELLPHONE CALLED A CRYPTOPHONE AND NOW IT LOOKS LIKE A REGULAR PHONE BUT IT WARNS YOU WHEN AN IMSI CATCHER TRIES TO INTERCEPT IT AND THIS KIND OF TEST HAS BEEN DONE BY MEDIA IN OTHER COUNTRIES BUT NEVER BEFORE IN CANADA. FOR MONTHS OUR TEAM TOOK THE CRYPTOPHONE AROUND OTTAWA. WHEN IT DETECTS AN IMSI CATCHER IT SHOWS A RED ALERT LIKE THIS. AND WE GOT A FLURRY OF THEM IN DECEMBER AND JANUARY. WE GOT ALERTS IN THE BYWARD MARKET AND THE RIDEAU CENTRE SHOPPING MALL AND THE CBC OFFICES. AN IMSI CATCHER HAS ABOUT A HALF KILOMETRE RADIUS IN THE CITY WHICH MEANS THAT THE CATCHERS WE DETECTED COULD REACH ALL OF PARLIAMENT HILL, THE LANGEVIN BLOCK WHERE THE PRIME MINISTER’S OFFICE IS, NATIONAL DEFENCE AND THE U.S. EMBASSY AND THE ISRAELI EMBASSY. WE ASKED THE U.S. SUPPLIER OF THE CRYPTOPHONE TO DO A MORE IN-DEPTH ANALYSIS OF THE ALERT FOR US. THE COMPANY IS BASED IN LAS VEGAS, JUST 15 MINUTES FROM THE FRENZY OF THE CASINOS. IN A NONDESCRIPT OFFICE IT FOCUSES ON COUNTERINTELLIGENCE. CLIENTS INCLUDE THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY.>>Interview: CONSISTENTLY USING IMSI CATCHER ACTIVITY, DEFINITELY.>>Reporter: THE C.E.O., LES GOLDSMITH, SAYS THAT THE CATCHERS ARE USED BY ALL GROUPS.>>Interview: FEDERAL LICENSEES AND WE’RE SEEING ORGANIZED CRIME AND FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE.>>Reporter: AND HE SAYS THAT THE ALERTS WE WERE GETTING DO LOOK FOREIGN.>>Interview: WE’RE SEEING MORE IMSI CATCHERS WITH DIFFERENT CONFIGURATIONS AND WE CAN BUILD A SIGNATURE SO WE’RE SEEING IMSI CATCHERS THAT ARE MORE LIKELY CHINESE AND RUSSIAN AND ISRAELI AND SO FORTH.>>Reporter: BACK IN CANADA, WE CONSULTED ANOTHER EXPERT, SOMEONE WHO KNOWS A LOT ABOUT IMSI CATCHERS. HE COMES FROM A FEDERAL SECURITY AGENCY AND NEEDS TO MAINTAIN ANONYMITY TO PROTECT THAT WORK. HE SEES TWO VERY DIFFERENT POTENTIAL EXPLANATIONS FOR THE PRESENCE OF IMSI CATCHERS, ONE DOMESTIC AND ONE FOREIGN. HE SAYS THAT RUSSIA HAS USED THE DEVICES IN CANADA BEFORE.>>Interview: WE LEARNED THAT RUSSIAN INTELLIGENCE WAS PARKED NEAR C.S.I.S. WITH EQUIPMENT ON BOARD TO DO IMSI CATCHING. AFTER X NUMBER OF DAYS OR WEEKS THEIR PEOPLE ARE IDENTIFYING THE IMSI NUMBERS THAT BELONG TO THE INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS AND THEN WHEN THE RUSSIANS WERE DOING A CLANDESTINE OPERATION IN OTTAWA, MONTREAL AND TORONTO, WHEREVER, THEY WOULD ACTIVATE THE IMSI CATCHER AND CHECK THE NUMBERS ASSOCIATED WITH THE CANADIAN INTELLIGENCE WERE THERE. IF THEY WERE, THEY’D KNOW THAT THE OPERATION WAS TOAST. AND THEY CANCELLED IT.>>Reporter: THE OTHER OPTION? DOMESTIC SPIES.>>Interview: ONE POSSIBILITY IS THAT CANADA’S COMMUNICATIONS SECURITY ESTABLISHMENT HAS BEEN MANDATED TO MONITOR THE NETWORK FOR PROTECTION PURPOSES IN A DEFENSIVE WAY.>>Reporter: CANADA’S ELECTRONIC SPY AGENCY THOUGH INSISTS ITS ACTIVITIES ARE DIRECTED AT FOREIGN ENTITIES, OUTSIDE OF CANADA. IT WAS ONLY LAST JUNE THAT WE LEARNED THAT CANADIAN POLICE WERE USING THE DEVICES AND IT WAS BECAUSE OF AN INVESTIGATION INVOLVING A MAFIA KILLING OUTSIDE OF MONTREAL BACK IN 2011. COURT DOCUMENTS SHOW THAT THE RCMP WERE USING AN IMSI CATCHER TO MONITOR THE CONVERSATIONS OF THE ALLEGED KILLERS. DURING COURT PROCEEDINGS THE RCMP ALSO REVEALED THEIR FIRST PURCHASE OF AN IMSI CATCHER CAME IN 2005. THE POLICE FORCE ALSO CONFIRMED THAT THEY WOULD KEEP THE INFORMATION ABOUT ALL OF THE OTHER CELLPHONES WITHIN REACH OF THEIR IMSI CATCHER. WE’LL KEEP THAT IN OUR SECTION, AT OUR LEVEL, SO WE DON’T DESTROY IT BUT WE DON’T DISCLOSE THAT EITHER, A POLICE OFFICER TOLD THE COURT. SINCE THEN WE’VE LEARNED THAT SOME MUNICIPAL POLICE FORCES LIKE WINNIPEG AND VANCOUVER HAVE SOUGHT OUT THE TECHNOLOGY TOO. MOSTLY POLICE DON’T WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHY THEY’RE USED OR EVEN IF THEY HAVE ONE. THOUGH WE KNOW OF AT LEAST ONE INSTANCE WHERE AN IMSI CATCHER WAS USED TO TRY TO TRACK SOMEONE WHO HAD BEEN ABDUCTED. IN OTTAWA OFFICIALS THAT WE REACHED OUT TO SAID THEY EITHER COULDN’T OR WOULDN’T EXPLAIN WHO WAS USING AN IMSI CATCHER HERE. SOME EMBASSIES SAID THEY COULDN’T HELP US. THE RUSSIANS TOOK THE EXTRA STEP OF SAYING ANY SUCH SUGGESTION THAT THEY WERE INVOLVED IN THESE KIND OF ACTIVITIES, ARE BOGUS AND BASELESS. AND THE CHINESE CALLED ANY SUGGESTION THAT THEY WERE INVOLVED IRRESPONSIBLE CONJECTURE. NOW THE MINISTRY OF PUBLIC SAFETY, C.S.I.S., THE RCMP AND OTTAWA POLICE ALL SAID VARIATIONS ON THE SAME THING, THEY DON’T DISCUSS TACTICS BUT THEY DO ALWAYS FOLLOW APPROPRIATE JUDICIAL PROCEDURE AND THE LAW.>>Interview: ON THE FACE OF IT THAT’S EXTREMELY DISTURBING.>>Reporter: INFORMATION LAW EXPERT TERESA SCASSA WAS TROUBLED BY OUR FINDINGS AND SHE SAYS EVEN IF THE TECHNOLOGY IS BEING USED BY CANADIAN AUTHORITIES THERE’S STILL REASON FOR CANADIANS TO BE CONCERNED.>>Interview: I THINK THAT THERE’S ALSO SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT INFORMATION AFTERWARDS. IS IT DESTROYED? IS IT RETAINED? IS IT USED FOR OTHER PURPOSES?>>Reporter: THERE ARE SO MANY UNANSWERED QUESTIONS, WE NOW KNOW THAT SOMEONE HAS BEEN USING AN IMSI CATCHER NEAR SOME VERY SENSITIVE LOCATIONS, BUT WHO AND WHY AND WHAT IT COULD ALL MEAN FOR THE PRIVACY OF CANADIANS IS STILL SHROUDED IN SECRECY. CATHERINE CULLEN, CBC NEWS, OTTAWA.>>Peter: WELL, NOW STAY TUNED FOR A DIFFERENT KIND OF INTRIGUE, OUR “THE INSIDERS” ARE NEXT. (*) KATHLEEN, DAVID, AND TIM POWERS ARE HERE TO GIVE US A SENSE WHAT TO EXPECT AND WHY WHEN THE CONSERVATIVES MEET TO ELECT THEIR NEW LEADER NEXT MONTH.>>Interview: THEY WERE BASICALLY PROVIDING UNPROVEN THERAPIES ON SORT OF AN EXPERIMENTAL BASIS.>>Peter: PLUS, A CONTROVERSIAL PRIVATE HEALTH PROGRAM GOT ALBERTA TAX DOLLARS. (*) (*) (*)>>Peter: WELL, THE LONG DRAWN OUT CONSERVATIVE LEADERSHIP RACE IS GETTING CLOSER TO A FINISH. IT’S STILL ALMOST TWO MONTHS TO GO BUT IT’S TIME TO TAKE “THE INSIDERS” LOOK AT WHAT’S GOING ON AND WHAT SHOULD BE GOING ON AND WHAT JUST MIGHT HAPPEN. KATHLEEN AND DAVID ARE HERE AT THE TABLE TONIGHT AND IN OTTAWA, CONSERVATIVE INSIDER TIM POWERS IS FILLING IN FOR JAMIE WHO IS UNDER THE WEATHER TODAY. SO LET’S GET RIGHT AT IT. FIRST, WITH A REMINDER OF WHO’S IN THE RACE, LOOK AT THIS PICTURE. A SPECIAL PRIZE FOR ANYONE WHO CAN NAME ALL OF THESE 14 PEOPLE WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE NAMES. IT’S STILL A PACKED RACE AND WE KEEP EXPECTING THAT IT WILL DROP DOWN, BUT IT HASN’T. ALL 14 ARE STILL IN AT THIS MOMENT. WHEN IS THE ACTUAL CONVENTION? MAY 27th OF THIS YEAR IN TORONTO. AND IT’S A RANKED BALLOT SYSTEM. SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? AND HOW DIFFERENT IS IT TO WHAT WE’RE MORE COMMONLY USED TO. TIM, YOU’RE THE CONSERVATIVE BACKROOMER ON THIS. TELL US ABOUT THE RANKED BALLOT SYSTEM.>>Interview: WELL, IT’S ACTUALLY THE SAME SYSTEM THAT WAS USED IN 2004, THE DIFFERENCE IN 2004 WHEN STEPHEN HARPER WAS ELECTED LEADER, THERE WERE ONLY THREE, PETER, AND NOW WE HAVE FOUR TIMES THAT PLUS TWO, ALTHOUGH MUCH LESS EXCITING THAN 2004. THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT THIS SYSTEM IS PERHAPS LESS THE RANKED BALLOTS THAN THE POINTS ALLOCATION. THERE’S A HUNDRED POINTS AFFORDED FOR ALL 338 RIDINGS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. TO WIN YOU HAVE TO GET 16,901 POINTS SO WHEN YOU HEAR ALL OF THESE NUMBERS COMING OUT ABOUT PEOPLE SIGNING UP 35,000, 45,000 MEMBERS, THAT MAY SOUND GREAT, BUT IT DOESN’T NECESSARILY MEAN THEY’RE AHEAD BECAUSE WHAT MATTERS IS HOW THOSE MEMBERSHIPS ARE DISSEMINATED ACROSS THE COUNTRY. AND I’LL GIVE YOU ONE QUICK EXAMPLE. IN THE RIDING OF LABRADOR, MY HOME PROVINCE OF NEWFOUNDLAND AND LABRADOR, THERE’S LESS THAN 15 MEMBERS AND STEPHEN HARPER’S RIDING, OR FORMERLY STEPHEN HARPER’S RIDING OF CALGARY HERITAGE THERE WOULD BE OVER A THOUSAND SO YOU FIGURE OUT THE MATH. YOU ASSIGN ONE IN LABRADOR AND 20 IN CALGARY HERITAGE, AND YOU’RE MORE LIKELY TO GET POINTS IN LABRADOR THAN CALGARY HERITAGE. CONFUSED? SO AM I.>>Peter: YOU’RE DEFINITELY RIGHT, WE’RE CONFUSED. BUT IS THERE AN ADVANTAGE OR A DISADVANTAGE TO GOING INTO THE RANKED BALLOT SYSTEM, KATHLEEN?>>Interview: WELL, I THINK THAT THE THING IS, LIKE TIM EXPLAINED IT, THE NUMBERS ARE CONFUSING AND IT’S VERY DIFFICULT. I THINK THAT IT’S EASIER FROM A PARTY ADMINISTRATION POINT OF VIEW BUT I THINK WE STILL, JOURNALISTS AND PUNDITS, STILL THINK OF DELEGATED CONVENTIONS, THOUGH THEY HAVEN’T HAPPENED FOR QUITE A LONG TIME. MOST PARTIES HAVE RELEGATED THEM TO THE PAST AND WE HAVE SEEN THE STORIES OF JOE CLARK COMING UP THE MIDDLE AND PEOPLE MOVED TOWARDS HIM OR JUDY LA MARSH FAMOUS STORY OR RECENTLY IN 2006 WHEN WE SAW BOB RAE AND MICHAEL IGNATIEFF NOT BEING ABLE TO AGREE AND THEN STÉPHANE DION COMING UP THE MIDDLE TO BE LEADER. THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN ANYMORE BUT WE STILL TALK LIKE THEY’RE DELEGATED CONVENTIONS AND WE STILL TALK ABOUT THESE 14 CANDIDATES SOMEHOW TRADING, YOU KNOW, MEMBERSHIPS. AND SOMEHOW LISA RAITT BY CURRYING FAVOUR IN SOME WAYS TO ANDREW SAXTON BY SAYING THAT HE’S HER SECOND CHOICE THAT MAYBE SAXTON VOTERS WILL COME OVER TO HER. BUT IN THIS RANKED BALLOT SCENARIO, THAT’S NOT ALWAYS NECESSARILY GOING TO BE THE CASE.>>Peter: SO LET ME GET IT STRAIGHT — ALL OF THE VOTING, SUCH AS IT IS, IS TAKEN PLACE BEFORE THE DAY AND IT’S ALL IN THE COMPUTERS AND IS IT JUST A QUESTION OF KICKING IN THE SECOND CHOICES, THE THIRD CHOICES?>>Interview: YOU CAN VOTE ON THE DAY. THERE ARE NINE OR 10 IN-PERSON POLLING STATIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, INCLUDING ONE THAT I BELIEVE IS AT THE MAIN EVENT CENTRE IN TORONTO.>>Peter: BUT YOU COULD HAVE DONE IT BEFORE AS WELL?>>Interview: YOU HAVE A MONTH TO VOTE. YOU CAN VOTE BETWEEN APRIL 28th AND MAY 27th.>>Interview: YEAH, THE BALLOTS ARE GOING OUT IN ABOUT 30 DAYS FROM NOW AND THEY’LL GET MAILED OUT TO PEOPLE AND THEY CAN START VOTING IN THE FIRST WEEK OF MAY.>>Peter: DAVID, DOES IT PLAY TO ANYONE’S ADVANTAGE IN THIS SCENARIO THAT WE’RE LOOKING AT NOW WITH THE 14?>>Interview: IT PROBABLY PLAYS TO THE FRONT-RUNNERS’ ADVANTAGE BECAUSE THERE’S UNDERSTOOD TO BE THREE PEOPLE WHO HAVE MORE SUPPORT ON THE FIRST BALLOT THAN ANYBODY ELSE IS LIKELY TO HAVE BUT THEY’RE ALL WHAT I CALL WEAK FRONT-RUNNERS AND THEY’RE ALL COMING IN AT 20%, OF THE VOTE, AND 22% OF THE VOTE AS OPPOSED TO THE FRONT-RUNNER WHO HAS 40% OF THE VOTE. NORMALLY THE WORST PLACE TO BE IN A CONVENTION IS A WEAK FRONT-RUNNER POSITION BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS GOING TO GANG UP ON YOU AND YOU’RE NOT CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE TOP TO CREEP OVER. WHEREAS THIS BY AS KATHLEEN HAS EXPLAINED, ELIMINATING THE CONVENTION DYNAMIC, IT ELIMINATES THAT GANG-UP ATMOSPHERE AGAINST THE FRONT-RUNNER AND GIVES ONE OF THESE RELATIVELY WHAT I CALL WEAK FRONT-RUNNERS STILL THE MOST LIKELY CHANCE OF WINNING.>>Peter: ALL RIGHT. WHAT DO WE BELIEVE ABOUT ENDORSEMENTS? HOW IMPORTANT ARE THEY, KATHLEEN?>>Interview: TO A CONTRARY POINT OF VIEW, WHEN I TALKED ABOUT THIS CONSERVATIVE RACE AND AH, ENDORSEMENTS DON’T MATTER AND THAT’S OLD SCHOOL. AND BECAUSE OF THE NATURE AS TIM DESCRIBES THE 100 VOTES PER RIDING IT DOESN’T MATTER. IT’S NOT ACTUALLY TRUE. IF YOU USE YOUR ENDORSEMENTS WELL, AND ERIN O’TOOLE HAS 26 CAUCUS MEMBERS WHO HAVE ENDORSED HIM CURRENTLY AND THAT MEANS HE HAS 26 M.P.s ACROSS THE COUNTRY WORKING IN THOSE RIDINGS THAT HAVE 100 VOTES THAT HE CAN HELP TO CALL THE VOTERS AND HE CAN USED EARN MEDIA AND HE CAN DO RADIO SHOWS AND HE CAN HELP TO FACILITATE TOUR AND THAT WILL BE HELPFUL TO HIS CAMPAIGN OVERALL. AND ONE THING THAT IS INTERESTING THAT I HAVEN’T SEEN DONE BEFORE IN — IN RECENT LEADERSHIP VOTES, IF YOU WANT TO MAIL IN YOUR BALLOT FOR THE CONSERVATIVE LEADERSHIP YOU FILL IT OUT BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PHOTOCOPY OF YOUR DRIVER’S LICENSE AND MAIL IT IN. SO HAVING AN M.P. IN YOUR RIDING WHERE YOU CAN GO AND PHOTOCOPY YOUR DRIVER’S LICENSE AND THAT M.P. IS GOING TO CALL TO YOU REMIND YOU TO VOTE, IT’S GOING TO ENSURE BETTER GET OUT THE VOTE CAMPAIGN ACTIVITY.>>Peter: ALL RIGHT. WHAT ABOUT MEMBERSHIP NUMBERS AND MONEY RAISED, HOW IMPORTANT IS THAT WHEN YOU HEAR THOSE NUMBERS? YOU KIND OF REFERRED TO IT, TIM, A LITTLE WHILE AGO BUT HOW IMPORTANT IS IT?>>Interview: WELL, HERE’S THE FACT. IF YOU GO BACK TO THE LAST RACE THAT WAS RUN UNDER THIS SYSTEM WHICH WAS 2004, SO THIS IS THE SECOND ONE, AND IN THAT RACE THERE WERE 250,000 PLUS MEMBERS AND ONLY 99,000 OR SO VOTED. SO JUST OVER A THIRD VOTED. SO THAT’S WHAT PEOPLE NEED TO LOOK AT, THE PATTERN. AND THE PEOPLE WHO TEND TO VOTE, PETER, TEND TO BE THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN LONG-TERM PARTY MEMBERS. NEW PEOPLE WHO HAVE SIGNED UP, AT LEAST IN THE CONSERVATIVE EXPERIENCE, DON’T TEND TO BE AS COMMITTED TO VOTING AS THEY DO. BUT FOR ME THE KEY POINT IS THAT IF YOU GET TO SEE HOW THE VOTES — OR THE MEMBERSHIPS ARE SPREAD OUT, FOR EXAMPLE, KEVIN O’LEARY SAYS HE SIGNED UP 35,000 MEMBERS OR THEREABOUTS, IF THEY’RE ALL MEMBERS IN TORONTO, THAT’S NOT AS POWERFUL AS THOSE 35,000 MEMBERS BEING ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY OR MICHAEL CHONG’S 17 BEING SPREAD OUT IN ONTARIO AND QUÉBEC. SO IT’S REALLY HARD TO TELL BECAUSE YOU DON’T NECESSARILY KNOW WHERE THE MEMBERSHIP SIGNUPS ARE ACCOUNTED FOR.>>Peter: DAVID, HOW DO YOU TURN MEMBERSHIP VOTES INTO — OR MEMBERSHIP SALES INTO VOTES?>>Interview: WELL, IT’S A LOT OF ORGINISATION AND IT’S A MASSIVE EXERCISE BECAUSE AS TIM SAID, YOU REALLY HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE QUALITY OF THE MEMBERSHIPS AND NOT REALLY THE QUANTITY OF THE MEMBERSHIPS SO MUCH. WHEN YOU DO THE MASS SIGNUPS OF NEW PEOPLE, THE RULE OF THUMB IS IF YOU GET 20% TO 25% OF THOSE PEOPLE THEN YOU HAVE DONE REALLY, REALLY WELL.>>Peter: AND THE NEW MEMBERS DON’T NECESSARILY END UP VOTING?>>Interview: THEY MAY NOT EVEN KNOW THAT THEY’RE NEW MEMBERS. [laughter]>>Peter: WE DID SEE THAT.>>Interview: NO, THEIR COMMITMENT IS PRETTY PERIPHEAL SO, NO, YOU’LL HAVE TO LITERALLY DO WHAT YOU WOULD DO ON ELECTION DAY TO GET THOSE PEOPLE OUT TO VOTE, WHICH IS YOU’RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO THEIR HOUSE AND YOU’LL HAVE TO PHONE THEM REPEATEDLY AND YOU MAY HAVE TO OFFER TO BABYSIT THEIR KID BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY’RE NOT — YOU SIGNED THEM UP AND THEY DID A FAVOUR TO YOU AND IT WASN’T REALLY SOMETHING THEY’RE TERRIBLY INTERESTED IN DOING SO YOU’LL HAVE TO FORCE THEM TO GET OUT AND VOTE. AND I THINK THAT TIM IS MAKING A TERRIBLY COMPELLING POINT ABOUT THE DISTRIBUTION OF THESE THINGS SO, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD BE WELL ADVISED TO FOCUS ON THE WORST CONSERVATIVE RIDINGS IN THE COUNTRY AND THAT’S WHAT IS HAPPENING. WHERE YOU ONLY HAVE TO FLIP A FEW PEOPLE AS OPPOSED TO, FRANKLY THIS IS WHERE THE M.P.s ARE A LITTLE LESS USEFUL BECAUSE THAT’S WHERE A LOT OF MEMBERS EXIST.>>Interview: UM-HMM, YES.>>Interview: WHEREAS YOU REALLY NEED CONTACTS IN, YOU KNOW, DOWNTOWN MONTREAL.>>Interview: OR ALL OF THE ATLANTIC PROVINCES WHERE CURRENTLY THE CONSERVATIVES HAVE NO M.P.s, RIGHT?>>Peter: I’VE ONLY GOT A MINUTE LEFT AND GIVE ME YOUR NUMBER ONE TIP FOR EACH OF THESE CANDIDATES AS THEY HEAD INTO THE FINAL STRETCH OF THE TWO MONTHS. TIM?>>Interview: WORK IT, GO INTO ALL OF THOSE COMMUNITIES AND AS DAVID SAID TARGET THE RIDINGS WHERE THERE AREN’T A LOT OF MEMBERS AND YOU’LL HAVE A BETTER CHANCE BECAUSE THEY’LL RESPECT THE FACT THAT YOU WENT THERE.>>Peter: KATHLEEN?>>Interview: THERE’S JUST OVER 50 DAYS LEFT AND ABOUT 30 UNTIL THEY CAN START VOTING SO IT’S ALL ABOUT PERSUASION SO RIGHT NOW THE CANDIDATES ARE FACED WITH A CHOICE AND THE CAMPAIGNS HAVE A CHOICE, DO WE GO HARD AND START SLUGGING AND HITTING OUR OPPONENTS TO GET EARNED MEDIA? OR DO WE BE KIND AND TRY TO SOLICIT THEIR VOTERS OVER? SO THAT’S THE DECISION THEY’LL BE WRESTLING WITH AND THEY HAVE TO MAKE IT WELL BECAUSE THAT’S A SECOND TIER OF CANDIDATES THAT ARE THE MORE MODERATE CANDIDATES AND THEY’RE THE ONES HOPING TO MAKE A GO FOR IT FOR THE TOP POSITION.>>Peter: YOU GET THE FINAL WORD, DAVID.>>Interview: FIGURE OUT WHERE THE WINNING COALITION FOR YOU IS AND CRAFT A MESSAGE THAT IS BROAD ENOUGH TO DO THAT. SOMEBODY IS GOING TO TRY TO COME FROM 30 OR 40 POINTS BEHIND 50% TO TRY TO GET TO 50% AND THEY’LL NEED A LOT OF OTHER SUPPORTERS TO ULTIMATELY CHOOSE THEM ON THE SECOND OR THIRD OR FOURTH RANK ON THEIR BALLOT AND SO YOU NEED TO THINK THAT NO MATTER WHICH CANDIDATE YOU ARE WHAT DO I HAVE TO DO TO MY MESSAGE TO MAKE IT WORK FOR THE OTHER CANDIDATES’ SUPPORTERS.>>Peter: IS THIS WIDE OPEN STILL, NOT WIDE OPEN BUT OPEN?>>Interview: WE DON’T HAVE THE DATA. WE DON’T HAVE THE DATA. ANYONE WHO SAYS THEY HAVE THE POLLING DATA IS JUST NOT TRUE BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE CONTEST. AND THE OTHER THING IS THAT THIS PARTY IS STILL STITCHED TOGETHER AND WHILE THE LIBERALS ARE LIBERALS AND NEW DEMOCRATS ARE GENERALLY NEW DEMOCRATS, THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY IS STILL REFORM AND PROGRESSIVE CONSERVATIVE. AND SO PAYING ATTENTION TO NURTURING THAT TO THE NEXT LEADER WILL HAVE TO DO THAT OR OTHERWISE THERE COULD BE MAJOR DIVISIONS.>>Peter: THANK YOU ALL, THAT WAS GOOD, KATHLEEN AND DAVID, AND TIM, ALWAYS GREAT TO HAVE YOU WITH US. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.>>Interview: THANK YOU.>>Peter: “THE INSIDERS” WILL BE BACK IN A FEW WEEKS AND “THE NATIONAL” WILL BE BACK IN A FEW MOMENTS. (*) (*) (*)>>Peter: THE COMMISSION CHARGED WITH LOOKING INTO HOW QUÉBEC REPORTERS WERE SPIED ON BY POLICE BEGAN TODAY. LAST YEAR SEVERAL JOURNALISTS FROM “La PRESSE” AND RADIO-CANADA DISCOVERED THEY WERE THE SUBJECTS OF WARRANTS THAT LET MONTREAL POLICE TO SECRETLY TRACK THEIR PHONE DATA AND CALL LOGS. IT WAS A SHOCKING REVELATION AND ONE THAT THEY SAID PUT A CHILL ON INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISM. AS ALISON NORTHCOTT TELLS US, SOME WORRY THAT THE DAMAGE DONE CANNOT BE UNDONE.>>Reporter: FOR INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER MARIE-MAUDE DENIS, CONFIDENTIAL SOURCES ARE CRUCIAL CRUCIAL.>>Interview: THERE’S NOT ONE INVESTIGATION THAT I DID THAT DID NOT DEPEND ON SOME WAY ON A CONFIDENTIAL SOURCE AND THAT’S HOW WE BREAK STORIES THAT MATTER.>>Reporter: SHE WAS DISTURBED TO LEARN LAST FALL THAT QUÉBEC PROVINCIAL POLICE HAD OBTAINED FIVE YEARS’ WORTH OF HER CALL RECORDS, ONE OF SEVERAL HIGH-PROFILE INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISTS WHOSE PHONES WERE MONITORED BY POLICE. IN ONE CASE MONTREAL POLICE OBTAINED WARRANTS TO ACCESS THE PHONE NUMBERS FROM “La PRESSE” COLUMNIST PATRICK LAGASSE’S INCOMING AND OUTGOING CALLS FOR MONTHS AND THEY EVEN HAD ACCESS TO HIS PHONE’S G.P.S. AS PART OF AN INVESTIGATION INTO ONE OF THE FORCE’S OWN OFFICERS. THE REVELATIONS RAISED SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROTECTION OF JOURNALIST SOURCES AND POLICE PRACTICES AND LED THE PROVINCE TO LAUNCH A COMMISSION OF INQUIRY.>>[Speaking French]>>Reporter: TODAY THE COMMISSION HEARD FROM ITS FIRST WITNESSES, INCLUDING THE LEADERS OF THREE QUÉBEC NEWSROOMS WHO DESCRIBE THE CHILLING EFFECT THE CONTROVERSY HAS HAD ON SOURCES.>>Interview: WE CHANGED OUR WAY TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEM, OF COURSE, AND WE ADAPTED SOME TECHNOLOGY THAT WE DON’T REALLY PUBLICIZE, BUT WE KNOW THAT SOME OF THEM MAY BE MORE THAN WE KNOW ARE REALLY AFRAID NOW TO COMMUNICATE.>>Interview: OTHER SOURCES HAVE STOPPED TALKING TO US AND, YOU KNOW, NEWS SOURCES THAT WOULD COME FORWARD WE ARE AFRAID WILL NOT COME FORWARD UNTIL THIS IS RESOLVED OR CLARIFIED.>>Reporter: HE AND OTHERS HOPE THE COMMISSION WILL LEAD TO NEW LEGISLATION THAT WILL PROTECT SOURCES.>>Interview: ALMOST EVERYWHERE THERE ARE SHIELD LAWS TO PROTECT REPORTERS AND THEIR SOURCES AND WE DON’T HAVE THAT HERE. SO IT’S A MAIN CONCERN AND IT’S A VOID THAT WE HAVE A CHANCE TO FILL RIGHT NOW.>>Reporter: CBC RADIO-CANADA IS A PARTICIPANT IN THE COMMISSION WITH LAWYERS PRESENT TO CROSS-EXAMINE THE WITNESSES. THE COMMISSION IS EXPECTING TO HEAR FROM POLICE FORCES NEXT WEEK. THE JUDGE LEADING THE INQUIRY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE’S A DELICATE BALANCE BETWEEN PROTECTING SOURCES AND ENSURING POLICE HAVE THE TOOLS THEY NEED TO DO THEIR JOBS. HE’LL SUBMIT A REPORT AND RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE PROVINCE EARLY NEXT YEAR. ALISON NORTHCOTT, CBC NEWS, MONTREAL.>>Peter: PEOPLE ACROSS NEWFOUNDLAND HUNKERED DOWN TODAY AS YET ANOTHER BRUTAL SNOWSTORM HIT. AS MUCH AS 60 cm IS EXPECTED BEFORE THIS BLIZZARD ENDS. THAT’S ON TOP OF A SIMILAR AMOUNT OF SNOW THAT FELL ON FRIDAY. GANDER HAS HAD THE WORST OF IT. IT HAD MORE SNOW SINCE THURSDAY THAN TORONTO HAD ALL WINTER. THICK ICE PACK ALONG NEWFOUNDLAND’S EAST COAST TRAPPED A NUMBER OF MARINE ANIMALS OVER THE WEEKEND, INCLUDING A GROUP OF DOLPHINS NEAR ST. JOHN’S. THIS MORNING A RESCUE EFFORT WAS LAUNCHED. VOLUNTEERS PULLED THE DOLPHINS OUT OF THE ICE, LOADED THEM ON TO TARP STRETCHERS AND DROVE THEM TO A NEARBY ICE-FREE INLET WHERE THEY WERE FREED. FIVE OF THE DOLPHINS WERE SAVED. UNFORTUNATELY, NOTHING COULD BE DONE TO HELP A HUMPBACK WHALE TRAPPED IN ICE IN COOK’S COVE. IT WAS FOUND DEAD EARLY TODAY.>>>THAT SUNWING PILOT WHO SHOWED UP DRUNK TO FLY HIS PLANE ON NEW YEAR’S EVE IS GOING TO JAIL. MIROSLAV GRONYCH PLEADED GUILTY TO BEING IMPAIRED WHILE IN CHARGE OF A SUNWING AIRLINES JET. HE WAS ESCORTED OFF THE PLANE SHORTLY BEFORE TAKING OFF FROM CALGARY FOR CANCUN. HIS BLOOD ALCOHOL LEVEL WAS THREE TIMES THE LEGAL LIMIT. GRONYCH WAS SENTENCED TO EIGHT MONTHS AND HAS ALSO BEEN BANNED FROM FLYING FOR ONE YEAR.>>>THIS NEXT STORY IS ABOUT AN UNPROVEN ALTERNATIVE HEALTH PROGRAM THAT HAS BEEN OPERATING IN ALBERTA FOR YEARS, DESPITE WARNINGS ABOUT HEALTH RISKS AND A LACK OF SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH TO BACK ITS METHODS, THE ALBERTA GOVERNMENT NOT ONLY ALLOWED THE PROGRAM BUT FUNDED IT TOO. THE PROGRAM IS RUN BY A WEALTHY CALGARY BUSINESSMAN AND CRITICS SAY THAT IT HAS POTENTIALLY RISKED THE HEALTH OF TENS OF THOUSANDS OF VULNERABLE PEOPLE. CHARLES RUSNELL HAS THIS EXCLUSIVE INVESTIGATION.>>YOU WANT TO FEEL BETTER AND LIVE LONGER? HOW IMPORTANT IS YOUR HEALTH TO YOU?>>Reporter: BACKED BY A FORTUNE MADE IN THE OIL AND GAS BUSINESS, CALGARY’S ALLAN MARKIN IS ON A MISSION TO IMPROVE THE HEALTH OF CANADIANS THROUGH PURE NORTH, HIS PRIVATE HEALTH FOUNDATION. PURE NORTH SAYS THEY CAN PREVENT CHRONIC DISEASE AND IMPROVE HEALTH AND SAVE THE HEALTH SYSTEM HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS EVERY YEAR, ALL OF THIS THROUGH ITS ALTERNATIVE HEALTH PROGRAM THAT FEATURES SUPPLEMENTS LIKE VITAMIN D, DISPENSED IN DOSES SOMETIMES EXPONENTIALLY ABOVE HEALTH CANADA’S SAFE UPPER INTAKE LEVELS. SO CERTAIN IS MARKIN OF HIS PROGRAM’S EFFECTIVENESS HE SAYS HE SPENT $ OF HIS OWN MONEY OVER THE PAST DECADE TO PROVIDE IT FOR FREE TO TENS OF THOUSANDS OF VULNERABLE PEOPLE AT SUCH PLACES AS HOMELESS SHELTERS AND ON INDIGENOUS RESERVES. BUT PURE NORTH HAS ITS CRITICS LIKE THE DIETICIANS OF CANADA WHO SAY THAT NONE OF THEIR THERAPIES ARE CONCLUSIVELY SUPPORTED BY SCIENCE AND SOME MAY ACTUALLY POSE A HEALTH RISK.>>Interview: WHEN THEY DON’T HAVE ADEQUATE EVIDENCE WE CAN’T GO OUT AND PROMOTE NUTRIENTS AS IF THEY’RE HARMLESS. THERE ARE SIDE EFFECTS, NUTRIENTS IN HIGH DOSES CAN ACTUALLY ACT LIKE DRUGS AND SIDE EFFECTS THAT CAN BE TOXIC AND HARMFUL.>>Reporter: BESIDE THESE 250 MILLION CONCERNS A CBC NEWS INVESTIGATION FOUND THAT IN DECEMBER 2013, ALBERTA’S NOW FORMER HEALTH MINISTER FRED HORNE GAVE PURE NORTH A $10 MILLION GRANT TO EXPAND ITS PROGRAM. HORNE DID NOT RESPOND TO SEVERAL INTERVIEW REQUESTS FROM CBC NEWS OVER THE PAST SEVERAL WEEKS. THE PROGRAM WAS ULTIMATELY OFFERED TO MORE THAN 7,300 SENIORS WITH NO ETHICAL OVERSIGHT. PURE NORTH GOT THE FUNDING AGAINST THE ADVICE OF MINISTRY OFFICIALS AND WITHOUT THE KNOWLEDGE OR THE APPROVAL OF DR. JAMES TALBOT, ALBERTA’S CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER OF HEALTH. INTERNAL GOVERNMENT DOCUMENTS SHOW THAT A YEAR AFTER PURE NORTH GOT THE FUNDING THAT TALBOT TOLD THE DEPUTY MINISTER OF HEALTH THAT THE PURE NORTH PROGRAM MAY “ACTUALLY BE CLOSER TO A RESEARCH PROPOSAL WITH A VARIETY OF INTERVENTIONS THAT ARE NOT WIDELY SUPPORTED BY ACADEMIC RESEARCHERS. AS SUCH IT IS ESSENTIALLY A HUMAN CLINICAL TRIAL CONDUCTED WITHOUT PEER REVIEW OR ETHICAL APPROVAL. THAT IS SHARED BY THE RESEARCH DIRECTOR OF THE HEALTH LAW INSTITUTE AT THE UNIVERSITY OF ALBERTA.>>Interview: THEY WERE PROVIDING UNPROVEN THERAPIES ON SORT OF AN EXPERIMENTAL BASIS ON THE BELIEF, THE FAITH, THAT THIS STUFF WOULD WORK WHEN, IN FACT, LITERATURE DIDN’T BACK IT UP.>>Interview: THIS IS NOT AN EXPERIMENT. THIS IS A MEASUREMENT OF ETHICITY.>>Reporter: PURE NORTH’S SPOKESMAN STEPHEN CARTER POINTS TO STUDIES DONE BY PURE NORTH THAT SHOWS THAT ITS PROGRAM IS SAFE AND EFFECTIVE AND CLAIMS THAT 50,000 PEOPLE HAVE PARTICIPATED IN THE PURE NORTH PROGRAM WITHOUT A SINGLE HEALTH SAFETY ISSUE.>>Interview: WE HAVE SEEN NO ADVERSE EFFECTS ON PARTICIPANTS BECAUSE WE MONITOR IT VERY CLOSELY.>>Reporter: EXCEPT IN VANCOUVER. WHERE CARTER CONCEDES THAT PURE NORTH, DUE TO AN OVERSIGHT, PROVIDED DOSES OF VITAMIN D ABOVE HEALTH CANADA’S SAFE UPPER INTAKE LEVEL TO MORE THAN 4, FOOD BANK CLIENTS FOR A YEAR BEGINNING IN 2014. INTERNAL B.C. DOCUMENTS SHOW 300 THAT PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICIALS UNCOVERED A LAUNDRY LIST OF SAFETY ISSUES, INCLUDING THAT CLIENTS WERE NOT SEEN BY A DOCTOR OR MONITORED. THEY ALSO WEREN’T PROPERLY INFORMED ABOUT POTENTIAL HEALTH RISKS. UNDER PRESSURE FROM PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICIALS, THE FOOD BANK AND PURE NORTH ENDED THE PROGRAM IN MARCH 2015. THE FOOD BANK SAYS THAT AS FAR AS IT KNOWS THAT NONE OF ITS CLIENTS SUFFERED ANY ADVERSE EFFECTS BUT THEY CUT ALL TIES WITH PURE NORTH. IN ALBERTA, HEALTH MINISTER SARAH HOFFMANN TOLD CBC NEWS THAT SHE WILL ASK HER OFFICIALS TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THE PURE NORTH PROGRAM. CHARLES RUSNELL, CBC NEWS, EDMONTON.>>Peter: WELL, THERE’S MUCH MORE ON THIS STORY ON OUR WEBSITE, PRIVATE HEALTH, PUBLIC RISK. YOU CAN CHECK OUT THE INTERACTIVE STORY AND THE VIDEO.>>>A NUMBER OF PEOPLE KILLED IN COLOMBIA’S DEVASTATING MUDSLIDES HAS NOW RISEN TO 262, AND IT COULD GO EVEN HIGHER. TEAMS ARE COMBING DEBRIS SEARCHING FOR SURVIVORS, BUT FINDING MOSTLY VICTIMS. THE HEAVY RAINSTORM FRIDAY NIGHT CAUSED FOR THREE RIVERS TO OVERFLOW ON SATURDAY. THE PRESIDENT HAS BLAMED THE DISASTER ON CLIMATE CHANGE.>>>AND THIS IS THE AFTERMATH OF A DEADLY ACCIDENT AT A ST. LOUIS FACTORY. THREE PEOPLE WERE KILLED AFTER A BOILER THE SIZE OF A VAN EXPLODED AND LAUNCHED THROUGH THE ROOF. IT SLAMMED DOWN THROUGH ANOTHER BUSINESS ACROSS THE STREET. THE INVESTIGATION IS UNDERWAY.>>>WELL, HERE’S A SIGN OF THE TIMES, AS OF TODAY TESLA IS THE SECOND MOST VALUABLE CAR COMPANY IN THE UNITED STATES. STOCK OF THE ELECTRIC CAR MAKER SURGED TO AN ALL-TIME HIGH GIVING IT A MARKET VALUE OF ALMOST $48 BILLION. FOR COMPARISON, FORD’S MARKET VALUE IS ABOUT $45 BILLION. (*)>>>UP NEXT… THE GREAT TRUTH IS REVEALED TO THE DALAI LAMA WHO IS FORCED TO SEE HOW TIME FLIES.>>>TIME TO CHECK THE BUSINESS NUMBERS, THE T.S.X. ROSE 36 POINTS AND THE DOLLAR FELL HALF A CENT. IN NEW YORK, THE DOW LOST 13 POINTS. AND THE PRICE OF OIL DROPPED .36 CENTS A BARREL.>>>I’M ANNA MARIA TREMONTI, TOMORROW ON “THE CURRENT” WE’RE ACROSS THE RIVER ON PARLIAMENT HILL FOR THE FIFTH OF OUR FORUMS ON MISSING AND MURDERED INDIGENOUS WOMEN WITH A CRITICAL LOOK AT THE NATIONAL INQUIRY’S PACE AND PROGRESS, THAT’S ON “THE CURRENT”, WEEKDAYS AT 8:30 ON CBC RADIO ONE.>>Annnnouncer: When you can fly, what’s left to dream about? Four elite Canadian snowboarders design and build their dream park and push the envelope. Building a Snowboarder’s Dream, Thursday at 7:00 on CBC. (*)>>Peter: THIS WEEKEND BROUGHT BACK A POWERFUL MEMORY FOR THE DALAI LAMA. TAKING IN THE MOMENT HE BECAME AN EXILE. THE MAN HE’S HUGGING HELPED TO PROTECT HIM ALMOST 60 YEARS AGO IN A TOP SECRET MISSION. 1959 WAS TUMULTUOUS FOR TIBET, AN UPRISING WAS QUICKLY CRUSHED BY CHINA AND FORCING THE YOUNG DALAI LAMA TO RUN. THAT’S HIM ON THE WHITEHORSE, DISGUISED AS A CHINESE SOLDIER. OVER 13 DAYS THE LEADER TREKKED FROM LHASA THROUGH THE HIM HIMALAYANS AND TO THE BORDER AND HE WAS TAKEN TO THE BORDER WITH A RIFLEMAN. THE DALAI LAMA WAS HAPPY TO SEE HIM ALL OF THESE YEARS LATER. WHEN THEY FIRST MET BOTH WERE IN THEIR 20s AND THE SPIRITUAL LEADER REPORTEDLY SAID, LOOKING AT YOUR FACE I NOW REALIZE I MUST BE VERY OLD TOO. THAT’S “THE NATIONAL” THIS MONDAY NIGHT. FOR NEWS AT ANY HOUR YOU CAN ALWAYS GO TO OUR WEBSITE, cbcnews.ca. I’M PETER MANSBRIDGE. THANKS FOR WATCHING. (*)

8 thoughts on “The National April 3, 2017

  1. I realize Daniel's condition is new and the importance lies in the fact that it is identified and now treated BUT it would be nice if the National mentioned its name!!! Or the fact that that it is nameless….. for being so new.

  2. Yo, CBC, it's very simple: Loose the anchors. Replace them with the janitors: No one will miss these anchors. For the sake of F…, it's like inbreeding.

  3. By the way, thank you for opening the Comments section to all. Get one of your tired reporters to do a story on this. Or, don't, and see the world passing you by.

  4. Does anyone else find it ironic that the CBC censors comments which they don't like. On some videos they permit comments, on others they block them. The one I can think of most recently is their 'Islamphobia' video. The messages was that we should not be scared of the doctrine of Islam which believes that apostates should be slaughtered. How shameful is this, what I joke. I will not be silent. I condemn the evils of all religion and you should too.

  5. And WELL'WELL news stories from around the world in just about 46:23 minutes is with some interview.

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