The four pillars of a decentralized society | Johann Gevers | TEDxZug


Translator: Paulo Oliveros
Reviewer: Denise RQ For millions of years,
humans lived together in small decentralized network communities of about 30 to 70 people. Everybody knew everybody, and it was hard to get away
with doing bad things. But then, about 10,000 years ago,
something happened that changed the course of history: the invention of agriculture. Agriculture allowed people to produce food on a scale they hadn’t been able to before. It allowed not just a few people, but thousands and even millions of people to live together in large societies. But humans have a memory limit known as Dunbar’s number. We can only remember
about 150 people well. So in these large societies, of thousands and even millions of people, we could no longer remember everyone that we interacted with. There was the rise of anonymity and anonymity threatened
the social order. This created an opportunity
for strong men to arise to restore social order. These strong men instituted social systems that were top-down, centralized, command-and-control. This kept the social order, but with great power comes great abuse. So the people that lived
in these centralized societies suffered great abuses,
they paid a big price. But this was the only way
to organize society on a large-scale. So people put up with
these abuses for 10,000 years, the entire span of recorded history. Then about 500 years ago, there was another change that started turning the tide
of human history back to the decentralized society that we’d lived in for millions of years. So when you look at the whole span
of human social evolution, the span of 10,000 years
of centralized society, which is really all that we remember, is actually just a blip in time. It’s a short transition phase that takes us from
the decentralized society of our past – which was on a small scale – to a decentralized society of our future, which allows millions
and billions of people to live together in a decentralized way. But what is it that allowed us to, again, live together
in a decentralized way without those centralized structures? What is it that allowed us to bridge and transcend Dunbar’s number? People-based trust systems
don’t scale beyond Dunbar’s number, but technology-based systems
scale virtually without limit. So it’s the emergence
of technology-based trust systems that allowed us to organize society
on a large scale without centralization. The first of these technologies
was the printing press. It started with the printing press
about 500 years ago. The printing press has no memory limit, and the economics of printing
allowed ordinary people everywhere to cheaply record and communicate ideas
across the whole world, free from the restrictions
of the centralized state and the centralized church. Communicating these ideas
with people freely, without censorship, inspired the first democracy movements. People started challenging the state, started challenging the church, developed their own ideas
about how they could do things. But the printing press was only the first
of a long series of technologies, the most recent of which
are the Internet and Bitcoin. I refer to all these technologies
put together as the Technology of Trust. Where human-based trust systems
don’t scale, technology-based systems
scale virtually without limit beyond Dunbar’s number, so we can once again, live together
in a decentralized way but on a large scale. The technology of trust has four pillars. The first of these pillars
is decentralized communications. Before we can do anything, we need to communicate what we want to do. And decentralized communications
has two essential components in the modern world:
the Internet and cryptography. The Internet and peer-to-peer
decentralized technologies such as BitTorrent, are now enabling people
to communicate without censorship. So centralized power structures
can no longer control the flow of information. However, the Internet by itself
is not enough, we need cryptography, because without cryptography, the centralized structures
can still use surveillance and censorship of what we communicate; and this impacts our freedom of speech,
our freedom of thought. To have freedom of thought, freedom of speech, and freedom of action, we need privacy-enabled
communication systems. So the Internet
plus cryptography gives us that. The second pillar
of a decentralized society is decentralized law. So first, we communicate
about what we want to do, and then we come to an agreement
on how we want to cooperate; and for that we need decentralized law. The three essential components
of a decentralized legal system are: choice of law, choice of adjudicator,
and choice of enforcer. Choice of law means
that we can choose the law that applies to our agreements
in our interactions. So for example, we do a contract, and we can choose the law of England, or the law of Switzerland, or we can even make up our own law. Choice of adjudicator means we can choose who hears our disputes,
who resolves our disputes. And, finally, choice of enforcer means we can choose who it is that enforces
our contracts and legal judgments. These three principles
sound like very radical ideas, but it may surprise you to hear that these are actually
not untested theories; this is the original way
that our legal systems operated. These ideas date from prehistory. These were the cornerstones
of the legal system of our past. It’s only in the past 10,000 years of increasingly centralized societies, and increasingly
centralized legal systems, that we’ve gradually forgotten
about these building blocks; and today it’s almost
impossible for us to imagine how we could have a legal system
that’s decentralized in the way that I’ve just described. It’s time to bring back these ideas and to reintroduce them
into the modern world so that we can really operate
a decentralized society. I and other researchers have developed
a complete legal framework for a decentralized society
that operates on these principles and, in fact, we’re already implementing
these principles and these legal systems in our businesses and in so-called startup cities. Following the examples
of Hong Kong and Singapore, there are now entrepreneurs
building so-called startup cities in developing countries, autonomous regions of developing countries that desperately need jobs and we’re building these startup cities with these advanced legal systems that allow people to create jobs
and generate wealth on a scale that hasn’t been possible
in today’s world. Today’s world
is suffering from so many laws that it’s virtually impossible
to do anything, and these countries
desperately need jobs, they desperately need wealth creation. So these are very exciting developments. The third pillar
of a decentralized society is decentralized production. Just like we’ve had
with decentralized communications, decentralized production allows us to bypass the censorship
of centralized systems. And there are two essential elements
of decentralized production. The first of all,
decentralized materials production, and, secondly,
decentralized energy production. Decentralized materials production
includes technologies such as 3D printing. With 3D printing, anyone,
anywhere in the world, can download a design from the Internet and print this out at home,
print out their own products. So this bypasses the restrictions
that seek control of the flow of goods
across national boundaries. The second component
is decentralized energy production. We are now starting to see, we are in the early days
of decentralized energy production that will allow people
to produce their energy cheaply at home,
at virtually unlimited quantities. And together these will move us from the systems we’ve had
like the diet days of the Pharaoh – one guy controlling an army
of thousands of slaves – today we’ve got Apple
having factories in China with tens of thousands of workers. This will move us to much smaller systems
where people can produce their own goods and services
at home without censorship. The fourth pillar
of a decentralized society is decentralized finance. And the essential components
of a decentralized financial system are first, a decentralized currency, and secondly,
decentralized contracting systems. The invention of Bitcoin is one of the most important
breakthroughs in human history. For the first time,
we have a decentralized currency that cannot be censored, that cannot be controlled
by any entity, by any government. The invention of bitcoin
has sparked the emergence of a whole new digital finance industry that is building an ecosystem
around bitcoin that will develop digital
financial products and services. The most important of these
is decentralized contracting systems. These contracting systems,
for the first time, offer a complete, universal
transaction platform. So on a single integrated platform, you can do literally any kind
of financial or legal transaction. And these two technologies put together, so decentralized currency
with decentralized contracting platforms, give power to ordinary people. Today’s financial system
is highly centralized: a few people pull the levers of power, and we are at their mercy. A stark example of that
for example, is Cyprus. One day, people thought they had
money saved up over 30-40 years, and the next day, they heard that the government was going
to confiscate 40% of their assets, and there’s nothing
that they can do about it. But with these technologies, you have the power back in your own hands. So those are the four pillars
of a decentralized society, and there’s a logical order to them. First, we communicate
about what we want to do, then, we agree
the terms of our cooperation, then we produce
what we’ve agreed to cooperate on, and finally, we trade the goods
and services that we’ve produced. Together, these technologies form
what I call the technology of trust. They will enable ordinary people
to communicate, to come to legal agreements, to build products and services, and to trade without interference
from third parties. So what does the world
of the future look like? Imagine a Maasai warrior
on the plains of Africa who has no access to the banks,
the financial services, and the whole infrastructure
that we take for granted in the developed world. He is cut off from the global economy. He has no bank account,
no lawyer, no financial services. This severely limits his ability
to generate wealth. But he has a mobile phone, and soon, using that mobile phone, he can start with a business idea,
and within minutes, with a few clicks on his mobile phone, he can incorporate a legal entity, and he connects
to a global transaction platform that allows him to safely
and securely do business with anyone in the world,
including people that he’s never met, people that he cannot trust; and the transactions, the integrity of the transactions
is guaranteed by the technology. This dramatically improves
his ability to generate wealth. Billions of people in Africa, Asia,
and South America and elsewhere are going to be raised out of poverty, dramatically improving
their standard of living. With just a mobile phone, everyone is going to have access
to all the world’s knowledge, technologies, and products and services. The combined force of these technologies will force the old, centralized,
coercive monopolists to change. They will have to become
competing service providers that serve the needs of all of us. This is going to lead
to a radical transformation of our communication systems, our financial systems,
our governments and legal systems. The end result is that we will once again live together in a small
and decentralized network community where we’ll have the power
in our own hands to live lives of our own choosing, in peace, freedom, and prosperity. A new generation of entrepreneurs
is building society 3.0; Join us! (Applause)

100 thoughts on “The four pillars of a decentralized society | Johann Gevers | TEDxZug

  1. I enjoyed this presentation. The only criticism or question I have is when he appeared to diminish the importance of private property and substitute it with competition as the driving force in capitalism. I think one without the other is dead. If you don't have private property , you don't have competition and vice versa. I'm surprised TED let an An-Cap speak but he didn't exactly give the NAP a ringing endorsement either. He steered clear of that. The problem with avoiding the subject is that is without the NAP there will always be another emergency as a pretext that allows for the centralized model.

  2. A few unrealistic ideas in the video. Like 3D printing more complicate products. That won't happen for 300 years. You can 3D print in the future many kind of stuff, but there is certain physical limitations that will make it simply impossible for a lot of products. For example, you can take a look at the manufacturing process of a microprocessor. There is over 1 000 000 000 transistors, at nanometer scale. Even if you could print so small details, it would take more than a lifetime of a human to print one.

    Also centralization in a lot of cases has been a good procedure too, because it may help to do a thing more efficiently.

    I think here is a bit same problem as in many other things, it is like ideology to try to "decentralize" everything. Like with communism, or capitalism, try to apply the same ideology to everything regardless of the subject, and there you have a mess.

    There is many good and interesting ideas although.

  3. If you notice he dwells on wealth and money, as long as you leave the profit motive intact you doom future generations to the hell we have now. But the rest of what he talks about is great. One thing I will say about decentralized finance is that it's a good system for the transition to a sharing based society. It would neutralize the global central banking systems of today.

  4. A very interesting talk, but I think the assertion that millions will be lifted out of poverty is a gross exaggeration. I cannot see how merely having access to a payment/money-receiving system, however good it may be in other regards, will give people what they need to start a business. I know it has to be a long, slow process, and that thinking about this in very immediate terms is not an appropriate or beneficial way to consider these ideas, but I cannot see it making that big a difference. I would be happy to have someone offer a simple explanation to me, though….

  5. forgeting about military attack of a centralized country…at least this decentralzied society need a centralized army…

  6. He is not correct about human evolution. The Homo sapien is not millions years old and that species killed the other human species of the time.

  7. the need for privacy/cryptography is only to legitimate and allow the creation of money … other than that, it's useless

  8. future will be decentralized
    but i really concerned about one thing
    will there be police and judicial system in decentralized system? if yes then how will they work?

  9. Ace, Looking forward to seeing your platform in action. Pls connect with the INSTITUTE FOR THE FUTURE'S blockchainfutures lab http://www.iftf.org/blockchainfutureslab/

  10. Why not moving forward and design a Resource Based Economy? We don't need Scarcity Based economic systems anymore…

  11. I do not like a centralized government either. It's what is called a Unitary form of government. Back in 1776 when the United States of America was created, they formed a Federal form of government. In this form, the central government lost about 50% of its power to the States. Each State collected its own taxes to take care of all its own local responsibilities. This is still the best way to accomplish a decentralized form of government. The last form is a Con-federal form were the states would hold 90% of the power and the central government is left with 10%. This is only practiced in the European Union or the United Nations. No country uses it.

  12. how is apple an example of decentralizing, it doesn't allow any freedom of choice for its consumers… i like the idea but some of the examples don't make any sense…

  13. When artificial intelligence reaches singularity, (becomes self aware), the technology will already be in its hands. It will take over world technology. Effectively taking over the world's population. You will have peace and safety, abundant world freedom for a short while but when life, consciousness, is given to the machine's we've created, it will become the dominant species of the planet. I would advise everyone while you still can to read revelations of the bible. This is exactly what happens at the end of the age of humanity. If you "believe on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ you will be saved." A way of escape, leaving this planet, has been made for everyone. Come join us. Time is short.

  14. This was an unusually insightful and educational talk. Not another one of those ‘me too’ ‘don’t you realize how great blockchain/bitcoin is’ talks.

  15. The Government and the banks work together to control the labour's wealth, this is a really good idea to protect the residents from being confiscated of their wealth. Hoping the blockchain plan itself really works well, not suddenly block or transaction datum get lost or any IT issue occurs when there is no electricity to charge phones. P.s. Really a good and understandable talk!

  16. This is the most amazing, thought-provoking Ted Talk ever. Having said that, achieving a decentralized society as fast as possible will require transforming the educational systems of the world. I have some ideas, but I am 73 years old, so I hope some millennials somewhere are already developing ideas for transforming education around the world, so that this Ted Talk presentation ultimately has the most disruptive impact on the existing status quo that is suffocating all of us.

  17. im on board but how is the block chain decentralized if every transaction is recorded?  how is it private if everything is recorded?

  18. Future will not be decentralised. This is the new world order trying to sabotage elected government. It is not power to ordinary people as they market it.This is mere a power shift to a more authoritarian technocratic regime. Those who have bigger stake in the new system will make decisions. Think about how do they create a currency out of thin air. Bitcoin is not the future, nor is ethereum.

  19. So is it possible to subvert the hierarchy systems and implement these societal changes without needing permissions from the governments above us, completely subverting their rule? Or is this just fanciful dreaming?

  20. I just wonder when our society will become a truly decentralized society when google and facebook have a strong power to control the media and people's confidencial media

  21. a great tie in..Dunbar's number is a suggested cognitive limit to the number of people with whom one can maintain stable social relationships— to BLOCKCHAIN……

  22. I started thinking about decentralization an hour, ago . I thought about mostly decentralization of information, entertainment, energy (renewable energy!), finance and other services and production. Here I am just watched this interesting presentation.

    Not sure about the increased wealth creation, I would say it will and already causes a more balanced wealth distribution, as in a P2P network small entities get more and not only the giant corporations reap most of the rewards for their CEO's and shareholders.

    I just realized decentralization addresses so many issues of capitalism (greedy unethical corporations manipulating media and politics) and socialism/communism (suppressing human competition, a centralized power forcing "equal distribution" lead by political elites).

  23. The speaker states that Bitcoin is a decentralized currency which cannot be censored or controlled by any government. However, can't governments pass laws which hinder its use?

  24. How do I put food on the table with a 3D printer? Will each family have to grow their own food in this new decentralized society?

  25. As long as a person, entity or group can create a unique good or service thats not easily found or copied centralization will exist. There will be less centralization but there wil never be complete decentralization and I don't think there ever really was.

  26. <3 thank you for this..you got my mind thinking of all the beautiful things we can now accomplish from this point on. It will be hard to stop world peace now <3 Namaste <3

  27. One of the most inspiring, practical and achievable vision of our future world – Get ready to embrace a de-centralized future built on trust and honesty embedded and enforced into the regulatory system which will enable honest transaction, production and communication free from monopoly, manipulation, abuse of power and conflict. Sounds idealistic but looks achievable!

  28. By his example of decentralized law… he didnt mean what you might think.. what he actully said is not a decentralised law.. is just a freedom to choose from a part of many establised centralized law systems of other countries by contract to contract basis..
    ..that it is the farthest from decentalization.. that is kind of what companies by moving their center of operation by offshoring so that they have the benefits of that country's law at present do..
    by example.. one company in europe could choose the privacy laws or the laws for climate change of US by offshoring.. so that in europe is not liable to laws that protect privacy or protect the environment..
    we all know what companies have evaded ..from tax to unfavorable law.. over the years by offshoring.. is that the kind of future you want?

    Also while he talked about decentralizing "everything" so that one can bypass establised centralized power structures ..there is a kind of centralized power that he evaded deliberately to talk about and find ways to solve the problems it brings, that which comes from the power that accumulation of money gives you, in other words vast concentration
    of money,private property and wealth (which even in a decetralized currency can exist) it is the basis of corruption and of any centralized power structure over the ages, he who has enough wealth can corrupt and dominate everything. How are problems solved by allowing vast wealth inequality to exist? Isnt it the reason of most of our time's problems?

    So what could we do in a decentralized society about vast consentrations of wealth and how could we bypass that kind of power structure… my personal opinion is that decentralization of private property,wealth is the only way.. but that is only my opinion, feel free to find your own solution to that problem but do not misunderstand a problem it is..

  29. The world of the future can only be based on trust among people who can then build the world of humanity, social justice and ecological responsibility. And these are the true foundations of our future. We need to build a new better world, an ecohumanist world, an alternative world to this world.

  30. This talk misses a major point and thats the ideology. Economy is not everything, VALUES MATTER !!! Thumbs down.

  31. It definitely will take some time. People will have to learn on their own, do their own research, etc, and there will be a lot of failures. I do think overall though winners will come through the cracks and their success will thus in turn lead to more people around them learning and having their own successes in the global economy. It will not happen overnight though.

  32. This seems like one of those things that sounds very nice in theory, but will probably have the opposite effect in reality. Lets hook everyone into the same online financial and legal system… Sounds more like globalism to me!

  33. Justice will prevail only if the pool is equal. Otherwise, no justice. This is a harsh and cruel lesson of history that Libertarians are completely blind to. A Libertarian world would collapse overnight into the worst tyranny the world has ever known. I don't trust my fellow man and nor should you. Thomas Hobbes was always right: man is wolf to man.

  34. Quickly:
    The Pillars of Decentralization.
    1. Decentralized Communication; Communication without censorship, through the internet and cryptography(The latter to make sure it stays uncensored).
    2. Decentralized Law; The choice of our law, judge, and our enforcer.
    3. Decentralized Production; Anyone allowed to make products(Like 3d print things and using solar panels to get your own energy).
    4. Decentralized Finance; Decentralization over currency and legal contracting platforms.

  35. Pillar one – complete control and slavery via embedded IoT computers. That includes people who will merely be another "asset" in smart contracts.

  36. You are brilliant and taught me much. That being said I need to question premise around time 622min.
    I am hearing alott about cognitive privacy. Including possible cognitive legislation

    I believe we have a right to privacy…but I do not necessarily believe that it is essential and that without it we can not be free thinkers.

    In order to protect cognitive privacy we simply need,laws that do not allow prosecution or persecution on strictly a cognitive action
    The reason being this…we can not be punished for thought crimes we should only be punished for action crimes.
    Punishing on perspective or projective crimes is a type of projective, or what I call "mirage law" a law that appears real yet is not.
    We can not be punished or censored by surveillance. Surveillance in and of itself is not a punishment tool. It is the negative thoughts surrounding it and the psychol8gical warfare associated with negative emotions,such as fear, guilt,

    Those who do not have conscience have less of these and pure sociopaths have virtually non not even for self preservation.
    So we see that those who are in part afraid of surveillance fear potentially several things…shame, disapproval, pain, punishment, expresseion

    That being said if these fears were addressed and removed, it legislation existed that protected us from prosecution of thought crimes, then we are less threatened by the big monster of transparency.

    We have taken privacy 4 granted and used it as a tool for pur advantage and more importantly 4 disadvantage.

    Privacy can still be had…the good old fashion way….without technology….1

    Having no technological privacy is only one type of privacy. If you look at the different types you still have many…personal, written, verbal, meetings, you do not need to have technology in your home…it is optional…schools yes, buisnesses maybe, relationships that is,built by who you are and whom you are associating with.

    So we see clearly that it is not surveillance that stops free thinking…it is,our fear of prosecution, or retribution, or punishment.

    Babies and young children have no privacy at all….they are not harmed at all…

    Just saying….current reality is we need surveillance not more fear

  37. Does anybody else finds it funny that he knows so much about how social organization and economy used to be in the "millions of years" of human history BEFORE the recording of human history?

  38. The Center of Everything can never, ever let this happen. It would destroy the regime and everything it stands for. The resulting struggle, now well under way is the kulturkampf of our time. Gever's mistake was not mapping the Center onto this talk and telling the audience what will happen. Because it won't be funny.

  39. Decentralized [ communication (space collapse), law-choice of law/adjucator/enforcer (hegemony collapse), production-material/energy (capitalism collapse), finance-fungibility/money/contract (exponential economy collapse) ].

  40. Center of such new society should be based on some strong Moral principals . Please check if below Moral Principal can be useful to apply in core/soul of this transition for Good of Society

    1.     
    One should always be
    ready to accept truth and to renounce untruth.

    2.     
    All acts should be
    performed after deliberating what is right and wrong.

    3.     
    The prime objective of
    new Society is to do well to the world, that is, to promote physical, spiritual
    and social good of everyone.

    4.     
    Our/Every one conduct
    towards all should be guided by love, righteousness and justice.

    5.     
    We should dispel ignorance)
    and promote (knowledge).

    6.     
    No one should be
    content with promoting his/her good only; on the contrary, one should look for
    his/her good in promoting the good of all.

    7.     
    One should regard
    oneself under restriction to follow the rules of society calculated to promote
    the well-being of all, while in following the rules of individual welfare all
    should be free.

  41. Core Values Can BE . Please adapt if you all agree to usefulness of these.
    1.     One should always be
    ready to accept truth and to renounce untruth.

    2.     All acts should be
    performed after deliberating what is right and wrong.

    3.     The prime objective of
    new Society is to do well to the world, that is, to promote physical, spiritual
    and social good of everyone.

    4.     Our/Every one conduct
    towards all should be guided by love, righteousness and justice.

    5.     We should dispel ignorance)
    and promote (knowledge).

    6.     No one should be
    content with promoting his/her good only; on the contrary, one should look for
    his/her good in promoting the good of all.

    7.     One should regard
    oneself under restriction to follow the rules of society calculated to promote
    the well-being of all, while in following the rules of individual welfare all
    should be free.

  42. Total decentralization would be just as bad as overbearing centralization. Decentralizing large sectors of society would be a good thing I think, but as the age of genetic engineering, nanotech and AI dawns, we'd better have SOME kind of central regulation.

    Tech is awesome and can greatly improve the world, but we have proven again and again that each major technological development is inevitably weaponized, and causes cascading waves of social destabization. The world can hardly keep up with the rate of change as it is. For all their smarts and altruism, the Techno-prophets of Silico Valley and elsewhere have a utopian optimism that borders on the naive.

  43. Nimrods spirit lives in the spirits of world leaders , as he desired to rule the world we have come full circle . NWO has been in the works for centuries and they are running out of time as my Messiah and Lord is returning very soon . Jesus will forgive you if you are will to repent and throw away your pride . Are you open to receiving a Savior ? Decide soon before the door is closed ………

  44. This starts well, but is Promethian.
    The Greeks, long ago abandoned Promethius.
    It ends chained to a rock with your liver being eaten every night.

    Read Sapolsky?

    Humanity now enters the Anthropocene.
    Humans need little technology for that.
    Just the opposite.
    Decentralization happens as emergence – not intent.
    Dunbar's Number is true.
    It defines the tribe – and every single tribe is a roll-of-the-dice against the inevitability of entropy.

    The coalition of tribes in the Holocene is over.
    It was the "Tower of Babel".

    The advent of the hive-human is over – along with specialization.
    The internet will fall.
    The tribes will re-arise.
    The hubris will fail – as it always did.

    Find your tribe?
    Or leave this Earth?

  45. Be cautious of all inclusive world views like this. Definitely not convinced regarding his 'decentralised law' point. We need an overriding rule of law to be able to predict the behaviour of strangers and thus cooperate

  46. But who says the Massai warrior thinks he is living in poverty. In his mind he might believe that he is living in the ultimate world available – at one with nature and not in need of a cell phone and technology!

  47. I agree with many of the ideas, but I think there is a serious flaw in his reasoning: choice of law. It's a great idea in theory, but breaks down in reality, ex:

    If I drink water from a well nearby where I live, my neighbor chose a law that allows him to use the well as a dump. My freely chosen law says the well is for drinking, and my neighbor's freely chosen law says it's for dumping.

    How can we escape the situation where one of us will be forced to accept the law of the other ?

    It's easy to make theories that seem superficialy sound and appealing, sprinkle the word "freedom", "startup" and "enterpreneur" generously, and it looks like you got yourself a TED talk.

    About cryptography, I think you have to be clueless about crypto to think that it lets us escape centralization *today*, the problem is endpoint security: you can have the best crypto algorithm, if you are using hardware and an OS built by someone else than yourself, you have a potential strong men watching over your shoulder, no matter how good the crypty is. Until we have open source hardware, that gets used on a large scale, we are still in a deeply centralized world, more centralized than ever before.

    I agree that crypto could bring decentralization, but we are nowhere near having it, we're more centralized than ever, and seeing how nobody cares today about privacy, doesn't make me optimistic. I think a good old fashion law that says "the state shall not engage in useless surveillance", and good old defunding of such programs will be much helpful.

    What is worst than being in a hyper centralized world is to be in one while being under the illusion that you are in a decentralized one.

  48. This is NOT correct. The Greek city state where highly decentralized, and most where VERY SMALL SOCIETIES OF SMALL VILLAGES. In this period, there where a lot of economic and cultural progress like a big leap forward. Mathematics, Philosophy, Olympics, Architecture, Democracy and Laws where invented by Greeks in this prosperous period, because of decentralized societies. The Romans later conquered and destroyed the Greek city state societies and centralized them. He forgot about this.

  49. Hippies, always looking to solve non-problems with non-workable solutions.
    Censorship is a concept that pertains only to governmental action, private citizens cannot censor or suppress anyone’s views or publications.

    Internet searches on the fate of this endeavor produced unkind results.

    "You guys already know about the fate of Monetas, so we don't have to go
    into that domain. But look up every other domain he has and you will see
    a failed project or defunct half-built website. Whatever idea/project
    Johann Gevers undertakes ends up in failure – he has no success to show
    for himself."

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