Flat Earth vs. Round Earth | Explorer


you think that with the beautiful
photographs that we have of our round blue planet it would convince any
doubters but there are still some who insist that the world is flat
correspondent Mariana van Zeller discovers more about this fast growing
movement in California I’m Mariana van Zeller and I’m in Southern California to
look into a growing movement in America people who claim the earth is flat they
call themselves the flat earthers and we’re here to try to understand what’s
behind this unconventional view and how it can affect the rest of us so what’s happening here today why are
you here this matters to me flattered that shows you that you are
not a mistake and you were created and so you have meaning in matter – we’re
not monkeys floating through space on the false maxim that testable it’s not
measurable it’s not provable it’s not real how old are you guys just out of
curiosity do you think it’s a growing movement yes and we’re networking and
getting stronger people are realizing it it’s coming out in the media you’re
hearing the term flatter this is becoming more normal people are more
open-minded to it he’s not wrong a recent survey of Americans found that
two percent believe the earth is flat for the US population as a whole
that works out to be over 6.5 million people
even high profile artists and athletes are getting on board I want to try to find Mart sergeant
who’s one of the leaders of the Flat Earth community
nice to see you man mark used to design video games and run software trainings
now he devotes himself full-time to promoting the Flat Earth with all the
attention that you must be Mark Sargent I am Mark Sargent
thanks for meeting us here it’s a pleasure to be here so tell me what is
this movement all about this movement is about changing the world literally you
think for the longest time that you live here but what if it wasn’t this what if
this was just the illusion yeah we’re gonna open this thing up and the reality
look something like this in a nutshell you have North Pole at the centre the
continents splayed out organically on the sides
Antarctica is stretched around the entire outer edge like an ice ball the
Sun in the morning are very very small and the stars are just lights in the sky
a giant planet area which means is built by somebody someone bigger than us
someone better than us do you think it was a god not my place to say your
belief in the earth being flat flies in the face hundreds of the world not only
that we have satellite imagery we have photos from space and nobody here
believes any of that anymore so you don’t believe that people travel in
space no oh it’s much worse than you know meaning the only reason NASA was
founded in 1958 was to keep this thing under wraps as best they could be big
think of the shockwaves if all of a sudden you’re telling a civilization
that this model this is an it anymore flatters is the last conspiracy anyone
ever looks at mark and his fellow flat earther seem to be pretty convinced that
the earth is flat and that we’ve all been lied to for all these years but I’m
interested in knowing what impact this might have not only for science but for
society at large so we’re heading to meet with an astrophysicist that we hope
can answer some of these questions the universe began about fourteen billion
years ago an event that we call the Big Bang james bullock is a professor of
physics and astronomy at the University of California Irvine he specializes in
how galaxies formed did you ever think a few years ago that you’d be having this
discussion for National Geographic it’s frankly shocking we’ve known for 2,000
years based on observations you can make with your own eyes that the world is
round they have all the evidence right in
front of them and they still choose not to believe in it you know who knows what
motivates people from the inside to believe these things but science is
important science is valuable science saves lives it makes our lives better
and more comfortable and it enriches us intellectually and to question what
scientists are saying and suggested they’re part of some massive
international global conspiracy it’s really scary are they a threat to the
work that you do as a scientist if say government stop funding science the
cause of some kind of anti science anti intellectual feedback they’re getting
from the populace that’s when it really starts getting dangerous for our
civilization and as the war on science heats up some Americans are fighting
back we’re heading to the largest lake in California to meet the independent
investigations group which is a group that essentially debunks paranormal
claims and they want to do a round earth task may that be a test that will prove
that the earth is not flat but that it is round let’s go we’re ready to launch
you ready Craig ok so what’s happening here right now okay this is the boat
base target it’s horizontal stripes we’re gonna launch a small boat out into
the water here with a striped target and as it gets farther and farther out
you’ll start to lose the stripes one way that Aristotle proved 2,000 years ago
that the earth is a sphere was with a boat’s test very similar to this one as
a boat approaches the horizon it appears to slowly dip down into the water before
disappearing completely that’s got everything to do with the curvature of
the earth if the planet was flat the entire boat would remain visible so
it’ll be a very visual depiction of the curvature of the earth and what’s really
interesting is that some of the flat earthers including mark sergeant’s are
actually going to be here for this test they want to see it for themselves what
do you think is gonna happen here today I appreciate the scientific group coming
out and trying to do this test great appreciate the enthusiasm but cannot
work can’t work yeah okay so the test is starting the test it’s starting right
now at first all the stripes are clearly visible but sure enough as the boat
reaches the horizon the stripes begin to disappear one by one it’s pretty amazing
you can actually see it really clearly with this camera here and you see that
the red stripe cuz that was at the bottom has completely disappeared and
it’s now getting closer to sort of the middle
Green we’ve lost about one and a half stripes so this can only happen white
because of the curvature of the earth but mark Sargent and the other
flat-earthers have a very different interpretation of
the results so you don’t think that what we’re seeing is actually real you think
it’s because oh yeah here in flat earth believe it’s a globe mister
demonstration that doesn’t change anyone Korea Lord no mark do you really believe
this stuff tell me the truth I’m serious right absolutely 100%
believe we are not on a globe we are part of a giant studio set all the
world’s a stage and you’re on it I still don’t understand that like who’s gaining
from all this from this larger exclusive the highest authority higher than
presidents this super-rich people that are behind the scenes remember the first
rule of powers stay hidden so this is for me where I think it gets really
dangerous because we’re going back into the dark ages all right you’re
essentially perpetuating ignorance by denying science you know there’s a
real-life implication in all of this science has had its chance and they
aren’t putting up a defense I think that the flat earth could potentially uh sure
in a new golden age or it could assure in an age of chaos it’s easy to dismiss this as just a
silly theory and unimportant but the problem is that is a growing movement in
America more and more young people seem to believe that the world is flat and
you know it’s more than just distrust and government it’s this notion that
thousands of years of empirical scientific evidence is now being
dismissed as a mere conspiracy and that’s where I think it really starts
getting dangerous for all of us

100 thoughts on “Flat Earth vs. Round Earth | Explorer

  1. For many years, people have clashed on whether the Earth is flat or round. What are your thoughts on this heated debate?

  2. My mum always said “Never fight an idiot because they’ll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience”

  3. If the guy with the video camera zoomed in on the boat all of it would have re appeared. Mark Sarget tries but lets to many false statements get by.

  4. The opening statement is false.
    All photos of the blue marble are "photoshopped because they have to be." As quoted by the folks at NASA who create the artist renditions…
    I can't tell you what it is but it's shirley not what we've been forced to believe. It's great though it's helped me find God and not put my faith in lab-coats. Government wants good little non thinking cattle.
    Psalms 118:8 God bless

  5. The sun is billions of miles far from us and the moon is pretty close to us, then sun would just light the earth completely if it was flat. Correct me

  6. Ironically with all the 'scientific evidence' apparently available, National Geographic chose not to use any. Instead they just chose to try to discredit the other group. That is not debate ! Asking a scientist, he too was more worried about 'Funding' than science and provided nothing to the conversation. Finally just a thought, why use a flag AND a boat because, as it seemed only the flag was disappearing not the boat. Use science if there is so much out there next time !

  7. The Quran prove that earth is flat, and describe everything above us, that no one can leave earth , God created everything,

  8. Can flat earthers give us a valid reason as to why we can't jump off the edges 😂😂😂 we're tired of this ice walls

  9. We are saying these people idiot but what if we are idiot thinking earth is round without watching with our own eyes..they are 2% people believe earth is flat this doesn't mean they are fool or idiot its just we believe in others video by watching earth is round but not seeing by ourselves

  10. The Earth is still measureable flat like your brainwaves. Stupid Globe-Clowns. Did not get even one single real picture of the impossible Ballearth. 🤦🏼‍♂️

  11. Wow – what "great" edits! I see that you neglected to further the zoom when the boat was disappearing over the "curve". If the zoom had been increased then the whole craft would have come back into view – yet this is conveniently omitted. The disappearing is down to human eye perspective; nothing more than that. There is a plethora of videos which substantiate this. Instead of patronising flat earthers, why not actually look into it for yourselves instead of buying and blindly believing the slanted video coming through your TV screens and then attempting to humiliate people who believe in flat earth?
    And if we are in the realm of fantasy then which is more fanciful – a big bang out of nothing or a creator creating the heavens and the earth? Honestly, I cannot believe the gullibility of merely accepting what the mainstream says; why not find out for yourselves instead of mocking? This is coming from someone who – for 49 years – accepted the heliocentric model but – now – wholly rejects it, simply by doing research of my own and giving airtime and consideration to those who embrace the alternative point of view.

  12. The earth is flat we were force to learn what the government wanted us to believe .. that we came from monkeys and the world was created by the Big Bang theory … we were force into believing gravity exists to make the theory of global earth look real which is ridiculous they even say the earth IS PHOTOSHOPPED because it has to be !

  13. If earth is orbiting the sun WE'D SEE A DIFFERENT SET OF STARS IN THE SUMMER AND A DIFFERENT SET IN WINTER!! WHICH WE DON'T!! WAKE TF UP!!!!!!!!!!!!

  14. The vedas say this plane extends for billions of miles and is circular and that there are 6 Similar in size beneath us!!! The oldest scriptures I the world Rhett oldest religion proclaims a flat. Circular earth!!!

  15. Riddle me this…
    @7:47 u see the the foreground body of water; correct, then u see the boat; correct. Then why is it that u can see a background of water that is clearly behind the boat still?
    I mean if the boat really is disappearing due to the curvature of the earth then shouldnt there be no background of water remaining behind the boat?
    Like shouldnt it be, the foreground of water, the disappearing boat and then the background of the ‘high’ mountains only?
    Personally im undecided still (still researching) and would like to hear anyones explanation on why theres a background of water which is still clearly seen behind the disappearing boat…

  16. Sod mark lets meet a physicist and get true answers hahaha
    Not anti science just true science
    Whose gaining """ NASA millions a day..
    Space is money plus I can see water beyond the boat hahaha try again

  17. that lady in the first interview, the earth aint flat, that means she was an accident, she doesn't mean anything and no one cares for her

  18. "100s of years"
    1000s.
    People used math to figure out the earth was for sure round in a time they already believed it must be in the first place

  19. lol there is no "vs" lol no, you cant put a pretend flat earth up against "vs" the round earth because only one of them is real and its not the ignorant pancake delusion.

  20. why is NG entertaining this? just to humor the ignorant? for clickbate views? Are there no principles left anymore?

  21. The real question I ask myself and you should too is this: with all the resources at their disposal, all the wealth, all they could gain, all the diabolical agendas backed by political and international powers, if they wanted to fake the moon landings couldn't they? You think the most powerful nation (well next to Israel) in the world would leave the fate of their economy in the hands of its citizens to a vote??????????????? You think they can't fake going to Mars???? Not saying they did but couldn't they if they wanted to? Ask yourself!

  22. How do you explain away the fact that you can see the curve of the earth from any high mountain, you can literally see it curving, these people are being fooled. Even the Bible says the Earth is round at Isaiah 40:22 which says, " There is one who dwells above the Circle of the Earth, (Referring to God being above the circle of the Earth.) How do they explain all the different explorers throughout the ages that sailed around the Earth? If it was flat they would have never been heard from again. This movement is ridiculous, altho I do agree with one thing, that they say about a "conspiracy among scientists" but it's about evolution, instead of admitting the evidence supports creation more often than not.

  23. Honestly, I think ill try and pretend to be a flat earther to the point where they agree with everything i say. Then id just say that i just found out the earth is round and hopefully they would believe me lol.

  24. Yall dismissed and mentioned not important flat earth facts that NASA never tapped into. And why is the journalist so biased anyway? smh

  25. This movement is dumbest movement in history if the earth is flat it doesn't make a difference think how many other things that these people could be focused on that actually could make a difference

  26. Just strolling throught the comments and some of the flat earth believer has a channel consist of minecraft or memes video. So they just looking for attention now or….

  27. The fact the National Geographic covered this movement makes me disappointed. I lost respect for this channel. This will taint the National Geographic image as a reputable source of nature's facts.

  28. With nicon camera prooving the curve? 😂😂 take telescope! And see how heat makes ilusions and how boat is absolutely visable in kilometers away from shore.

  29. The real debate is between flat earth & hollow earth… and a 3rd contestant, hollowed flat earth (or flatified hollow earth).

  30. If the earth was flat why can’t you see the North Star from the southern emisphere ?

    If the earth was flat how can you explain the seasons?(while in some countries it is summer in others it is winter)

    If the earth was flat why is it day time in some countries and night time in others?

  31. I'm not a flat earther but to be fair they do have a point. Why would NASA only ever put out CGI images of "round" earth if it was round? NASA admits that all images of earth "must be photoshopped" so I tend to lean towards the flat earth theory because I've nothing else but lies and deceit to go on. Why in the 17th century was the earth said to be flat if that wasn't true? What proof do we have that the earth is round? Because all other planets are round? Are those images of planets/stars fake also? I want to believe the earth is round but I'd need actual proof with my own eyes to make a decision. Oh and the Antarctica is "out of bounds" .. that's suspicious in itself!

  32. This is exactly what happens when people mistake facts with opinions. And like one of the guys here said "people are open-minded". No, they're just stupid. And confused.

  33. It reminds me of the movie Idiocracy. To see a part of humanity moving backwards is concerning. It really very clearly classifies those who have lost their way. Please check in to rehab as soon as possible

  34. I appreciate your poise when dealing with the ignorant. You brought up many points as to why they would do this. You are correct. The reality is most do not want to abandon everything they know. EVERYTHING

  35. how can truth be dangerous to all of us blondie when we serve them whole life, people start conecting dots and proving themselves that we re being lied from beginning

  36. The "flat earthers" reluctance to observe or acknowledge the same physics that was used to construct the buildings they currently reside in or the roads they drive on is telling of the human mind. But one must focus on the motives for their beliefs in situations like this. Flat earth believers need to understand that there are a LOT of people who do not believe everything their "government" tells them. In fact, anti-establishment sentiments are always popular, but we must not go to the extent to deny the very science that allowed us to form our current civilizations.

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