Democrats Face a Choice of Direction, Could The Electric Chair Return To Ohio?


>>>DEMOCRATS FACE A CHOICE AND DIRECTION B AND COULD THE ELECTRIC CHAIR RETURN TO OHIO. JOINING US THIS WEEK, STATE HOUSE REPORTER FOR THE DAYTON DAILY NEWS. STATE HOUSE REPORTER FOR CLEVELAND.COM. OSU POLITICAL SCIENTIST AND SHANNON JONES, FORMER STATE LEGISLATURE. CALL IT THE END OF THE PRESEASON, EARLY SEASON, BUT IN ALL LIKELIHOOD, THE DEMOCRATIC FIELD WILL START TO NARROW. THE 20 CANDIDATES WHO QUALIFIED DEBAYED TWO NIGHTS THIS WEEK IN DETROIT. THERE WERE BATTLES BETWEEN ULTRA LIBERALS AND MODERATES, BATTLES OVER A MASS I HAVIVE HEALTH CARE OVERHAUL AND TOUGH ON CRIME.>>MEDICARE FOR ALL IS IS COMPREHENSIVE. COVERS ALL HEALTH CARE NEEDS FOR SENIOR CITIZENS. IT WILL FINALLY INCLUDE DENTAL, HEARING AND EYE XWLASZS! YOU DON’T KNOW THAT.>>SECOND OF ALL! I WROTE THE DAMN BILL.>>THERE’S NOTHING DONE TO DEAL WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. WHY DID ANNOUNCE A ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY OF STOP AND FRISK AND HIRE RUDY GIULIANI’S GUY IN 2007 WHEN I WAS TRYING TO GET RID OF THE CRACK-COCAINE.>>THERE’S A SAYING IN MY COMMUNITY, YOU’RE DIPPING IN THE KOOL-AID AND YOU DON’T EVEN KNOW THE FLAVOR.>>I STILL DON’T KNOW WHAT THAT MEEPS, BUT ANY WAY. HOW DO YOU THINK IT WAS PLAYING OUT? DO YOU THINK DEMOCRATS GO FOR REVOLUTION AND PLAY IT SAFE OR GO FOR SOMEBODY WITH A REALISTIC CHANCE OF BEATING TRUMP.>>YOU IDENTIFIED THE KEY THING NOW. AND DONALD TRUMP IS SO TRANSPARENT IN EL TELLING DEMOCRATS HOW HE’S GOING TO WIN. HE’S GOING TO WIN IF IN FACT THE DEMOCRATS CAN BE SEEN AS WEAK ON IMMIGRATION. ESPECIALLY BORDER SECURITY AND IF DEMOCRATS SEEM TO BE TAKING AWAY YOUR PRIVATE HEALTH CARE CHOICE. SO THAT’S OUT THERE ALREADY AND SOME DEMOCRATS WERE POINTING DURING THE DEBATE, WAIT A SECOND, LET’S BE REASONABLE, THINK ABOUT WHAT WE CAN GET DONE, WHAT COULD BE DONE WITH RESPECT TO THE VIEWS OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND LET’S NOT TRY TO PUSH SO HARD ON OUR PERSONAL PROJECTS. THE WAY DEMOCRATS TO CALL THEM SOCIALIST, BUT TO BASE CLAY SAY THEY’RE GOING TO DO THIS ON IMMIGRATION, DESTROY OUR BORDERS AND TAKE AWAY YOUR HEALTH CARE.>>THIS IS PRIMARIES USUALLY GO. THE FRINGES START OUT RADICAL AND OVER THE COURSE OF THE PRIMARY SEASON, THE PRIMARY CAMPAIGN, PEOPLE COME BACK IN.>>THIS IS B ABOUT WHAT EVERY PRIMARY VOTER HAS HAD TO DECIDE. YOU’LL REMEMBER IN 2004, THE DEMOCRATS HAD TO DECIDE BETWEEN HOWARD DEAN AND JOHN KERRY AND ELECTABLE CANDIDATES. IF YOU LOOK AT ANY COMPETITIVE PRIMARY, IT’S WEIGHING YOUR OWN HEAD. THE PERSON’S ELECTABLE OR THE PERSON YOU WANT TO WIN.>>SEEMS LIKE IT’S MORE INTENSE THIS TIME. MAYBE BECAUSE OF BERNIE SANDERS AND HOW HE LOST IN 2016. HIS PEOPLE ARE STILL HOPING FOR A SECOND CHANCE. IT SEEMS MORE INTENSE THIS TIME.>>I THINK THAT THE DEMOCRATS ARE, I THINK IT IS MORE INTENSE. I THINK THE DEMOCRATS ARE VERY FEARFUL THAT THE STAKES ARE SO HIGH. THEY WANT TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP AND THERE’S A DIVIDE IN THE PARTY. SOME THINK THAT THE WAY TO BE IS TO RALLY UP THE BASE AS MUCH AS THEY CAN ACCORDING TO HOW DONALD TRUMP. WE CAN APPEAL TO A LIRGT AUDIENCE AND DO THAT FROM THE GET GO.>>STICK TO THE POLICY IN THESE DEBATES. IT’S NOT ALL ANTIDONALD TRUMP ALL THE TIME. THE QUESTION GUIDES INTO POLICY, BUT YOU WOULD THINK THEY’D JUST KEEP BEATING ON TRUMP EVERY ANSWER, BUT IT’S NOT HAPPENING.>>IT’S BEEN INTERESTING. TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, I’M SO USED TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY BEING THE WONKY PARTY OF POLICY PROPOSALS. BUT THE DEMOCRATS JUST SORT OF FALLING INTO THAT TRAP NOW AND I THINK THEY DO SOME SO AT THEIR OWN PERIL. TAKING A LOOK AT DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES FOR PRESIDENT AND HOW THEY RANK HERE IN OHIO, THIS IS THE POLL FROM QUINNIPIAC. JOE BIDEN, SIZABLE LEAD. 31%. KAMALA HARRIS, BERNIE SANDERS AND WARREN. PETE BUTTIGIEG BACK A BIT AT 6%. THE REST FURTHER BACK. I MEAN, DO YOU THINK THE DEBATE CHANGED THAT NUMBER AT ALL?>>NO, I THINK THE DEBATE BASICALLY LEFT THE CANDIDATES WHO WERE IN THE FIRST TIER STILL IN THE FIRST TIER WILL START TO WIN NOWING PROCESS AND WE’LL GET TO A SMALLER NUMBER AND IF WE CAN GET TO LESS THAN TEN, THEN MAYBE WE’LL ONLY HAVE ONE NIGHT OF DEBATES RATHER THAN TWO. I THINK THE POLL, HE SAID ANOTHER THING THAT WAS INTERESTING, IS THAT TRUMP WAS BASE BY CLI TIED WITH ALL THE DEMOCRATS EXCEPT FOR BIDEN. AND THAT TO ME IS IS A STATEMENT THAT THE PEOPLE WHO RESPONDED WERE SAYING I DON’T LIKE TRUMP BECAUSE THEY CAN’T KNOW WHO SOME OF THESE DEMOCRATS ARE.>>I THINK IT’S A DISSERVICE TO CALL THESE DEBATES. WHEN YOU HAVE TEN PEOPLE UP ON STAGE AND TALKING OVER EACH OTHER AND GET 30 SECONDS TO DELVE INTO A COMPLEX ISSUE. IT’S MORE LIKE A WEIRD POLITICAL REALITY SHOW.>>I KIND OF WATCH THESE, GOT A GOOD SAMPLE OF WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE. THERE’S 20 OF THEM. YOU KNOW SORT OF THE MAIN PLAYERS ARE. WAS THERE ANY OTHER WAY TO DO IT WITH THIS MANY CANDIDATES FOR THE DEMOCRATS? COULDN’T ELIMINATE EARLY ON EVEN THOUGH IT’S CUMBERSOME.>>IT’S A TOUGH POSITION TO BE IN IF YOU’RE THE DEMOCRAT PARTY BECAUSE YOU HAVE LOTS OF INTEREST AND CHOICES FRS GOOD, BUT AT SOME POINT, WHEN YOU HAVE TOO MANY CHOICE, EVEN SEE HOW THE RATINGS AROUND THIS SET OF DEBATES HAS PLUMETED COMPARED TO THE PREVIOUS SET OF DEBATES, SO EVEN AMONG DEMOCRAT VOTERS, THE MOST ENTHOOUZIC DEMOCRAT VOTERS WHO WATCH THIS DEBATE ARE SAYING ENOUGH OF THIS. WE WANT TO MOVE ON.>>PLUS IF YOU LOOK AT THE POLL, IT’S SO EARLY. THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO TAKE A SHOWER AFTER WORK, THOSE KIND OF PEOPLE ARE NOT REALLY PAYING ATTENTION TO THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION YET. AND IF YOU NOTICE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE POLL, YOU NOTICE YOU DIDN’T SEE HIS NAME ON THERE BECAUSE HE ONLY GOT 1%. IN OHIO.>>YEAH. HE POLLS OKAY RAISING MONEY, BUT COMPARED TO OTHER DEMOCRATS, HE GETS A LOT OF HIS MONEY FROM –>>I THINK THAT’S WHY MOST PEOPLE HAVE A FATIGUE ABOUT IT. THEY DON’T WANT TO DIAL IN THIS EARLY. WHETHER THEY SHOWER BEFORE OR AFTER WORK. IN GENERAL, PEOPLE ARE ARE NOT THAT INTERESTED JUST YET.>>THERE’S NO CELEBRITY ON STAGE. THE SUMMER OF 2016, WE HAD A CELEBRITY, DONALD TRUMP. WHO WAS –>>DISAPPOINTED. HE WAS A DESIGNATED EXCELLENT AND WHERE IS IS HE NOW?>>AMONG THE CANDIDATES, WHO DO WE SEE EMERGING AS A REAL CONTENDER TO JOE BIDEN? ELIZABETH WARREN? CAN BERNIE SANDERS PICK UP ANYMORE THAN HE HAS? KAMALA HARRIS, CORY BOOKER?>>I THINK IT’S TOO EARL LLY TO SAY, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT THE PAST FEW ELECTIONS HAVE BEEN, THERE’S GOING TO BE JOE BIDEN, KIND OF AN ANTI BIDEN CANDIDATE AND IF THEY CAN’T FIND AND ANTIBIDEN CANDIDATE, IT WILL PROBABLY BE JOE BIDEN.>>LOOK, THE DEMOCRATS ARE LOSING INTEREST IN WANTING TO LEARN WHO THE CANDIDATES ARE. I THINK THEY DECIDED THEY WANT TO BE CALM AND THE SOONER THAT THEY REALIZED THAT THE CANDIDATE THAT’S GOING TO BEAT TRUMP IS JOE BIDEN, I THINK THE BETTER OFF THEY’RE GOING B TO BE.>>THE PROBLEM FOR BIDEN. THE PROBLEM FOR BIDEN IS THE FIRST TEST IS IS IOWA. A CAUCUS STATE. HE FAVORS THOSE CANDIDATES. AND THE WAY THE CAUCUS WORKS, YOU HAD YOUR CLUSTERS OF PEOPLE. FOR BERNIE, FOR WARREN THEN BOTH, YOU HAVE THE SECOND VOTE AND YOU COULD IMAGINE ALL THE LOCAL CANDIDATES SAYING OKAY, WHO’S OVER HEAD, WOULDN’T COASSESS BEHIND HIM. BIDEN WOULD DO WELL ON THE FIRST ROUND AND STEAL A FEW DELEGATES THEN THE INTERPRETATION WILL BECOME IMPORTANT. DID BIDEN WIN OR LOSE. PROBABLY HE FAILED TO MEET EXPECTATIONS, THEREFORE HE LOST. HE GOES TO NEW HAMPSHIRE WITH ENOUGH MOMENTUM, BUT WE’LL SEE.>>PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS IN OHIO THIS WEEK. HE HELD A CAMPAIGN RALLY IN CINCINNATI. HE RAILED AGAINST DEMOCRATS, TOUTED ECONOMIC GAINS.>>123,000 MORE OHIO WORKERS ARE EMPLOYED TODAY THAN WHEN I WAS ELECTED. THINK OF THAT NUMBER. AND RIGHT NOW, OHIO IS THE MOST SUCCESSFUL IT’S EVER BEEN IN THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY. THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS, OHIO.>>PUTTING THOSE NUMBERS IN PERSPECTIVE, FEWER JOBS WERE CREATED DURING A SIMILAR TIME PERIOD IN PRESIDENT OBAMA’S SECOND TERM. OHIO RANKS 41st IN JOB CREATION STILL. OHIO’S UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IS AT ITS LOWEST POINT IN TWO DECADES. TRUMP’S APPROVAL RATE REMAINS LOW IN OHIO. A RECENT QUINNIPIAC POLL PUTS HIM AT 43% APPROVALFUL MORE THAN HALF OF OHIO VOTERS DISAPPROVE. SEEMED LIKE YOU WERE STRONG EEST IN THE SPEECH WHEN HE TALKED ABOUT ECONOMY. YOU CAN ARGUE ON THE EDGES HOW STRONG IT IS, WHO’S BEING LEFT OUT AND BEHIND, BUT THE ECONOMY DOING WELL. INCUMBENTS ARE BENEFITTED OR HARMED BY THE ECONOMY. IT’S NOT SURPRISING THAT DONALD TRUMP WOULD GET SOME OF THE CREDIT OR A LOT OF THE CREDIT REGARDLESS OF WHAT FACT SET IS. HE’S NO DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER PRESIDENT.>>BUT THE PERSONAL ATTACK THIS IS THE SPEECH. ON HIS PART?>>THE NEXT DAY, HE TWEETED ABOUT U.S. REPRESENTATIVE ELIJAH CUMMINGS, HE SAID HIS HOUSE WAS BROKEN INTO AND THERE WAS A SARCASTIC, ISN’T THAT JUST TERRIBLE. SO I DON’T THINK HE’S GIVEN UP ON THAT LINE OF ATTACK. I THINK IT PLAYS WELL WITH A LOT OF HIS BASE AND SO I THINK HE’S GOING TO CONTINUE THAT.>>ALSO HAD A FEW MORE CITIES TO HIS LIST. CHICAGO, SAN FRANCISCO. NOT JUST GOING AFTER BALTIMORE ANYMORE.>>ABOUT THE QUINNIPIAC POLL, IT SHOWED THAT 58% OF OHIONS THOUGHT THEY WERE BETTER OFF THAN THEY WERE THREE, FOUR YEARS AGO YET THE LEVEL SUPPORT FOR THE PRESIDENT WAS WELL, SO HE’S NOT GETTING THE POLITICAL BENEFIT OF A GOOD ECONOMY AND ONE O F IT HAVE OF THE REASONS IS THAT HE GETS IN THE WAY OF THE MESS. HE GIVES SO MANY REASONS FOR PEOPLE NOT TO LIKE HIM. THAT’S WHERE THE CENTRAL STRENGTH OF A JOE BIDEN IS IS. IF HE’S THE NON TRUMP CANDIDATE IN TERMS OF CHARACTER, MORALITY, LEADERSHIP, THEN THAT’S A CHALLENGE FOR TRUMP. I THINK IN THE DEMOCRATIC STATE, THEY GOT HUNG UP ON A LOT OF HEALTH CARE, MEDICARE FOR ALL AND MISSED AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY HAMMER DONALD TRUMP OVER HE PROMISED THAT HE WAS GOING TO DO A BIG INFRASTRUCTURE BILL. TO FIX THINGS LIKE THE FLINT WATER CRISIS AND THAT HASN’T HAPPENED. HE PROMISED HE’S GOING TO BRING MANUFACTURING JOBS BACK TO PLACES LIKE OHIO, MICHIGAN AND WISCONSIN AND YOU’VE GOT PLANTS CLOSING IN DETROIT, ET CETERA. I THINK THAT OOEN THOUGH THE ECONOMY IS DOING WELL, THE DEMOCRATS COULD YOU KNOW USE THAT LINE OF ATTACK MORE EFFECTIVELY.>>IS SO WHERE IS IS TRUMP IN OHIO VULNERABLE? IS IT THE VALLEY? THEY LOST TO FLINT UP NEAR YOUNGSTOWN? IS IT WHERE THEY’RE HAVING TO DEAL WITH THESE TARIFFS AND SOYBEANS?>>I THINK THOSE WHO ARE THE BASE REPUBLICANS ARE STRONGLY BEHIND OUR FUND. THE BASE DEMOCRATS ARE GOING TO BE BEHIND THE DEMOCRAT. THE QUESTION IS GOING TO BE WHO’S ABLE TO ADD TO THEIR YOU KNOW BASE AND YOU KNOW, IF I WERE DONALD TRUMP, I’D BE LOOKING AT THAT QUINNIPIAC POLL SAYING HEAD TO HEAD AGAINST JOE BIDEN IN OHIO, HE’S DOWN EIGHT POINTS. NOT WITHSTANDING THE REALLY STRONG ECONOMY. SO TO ME, YOU KNOW, IF YOU KNOW, HOW WE BUILD OUT THAT SUPPORT IS WHAT’S GOING TO BE MOST IMPORTANT IN THE ECONOMY CERTAINLY ISN’T DOING IT FOR HIM.>>DONALD TRUMP WON IN 2016 BECAUSE HE REALLY MAXIMIZED TURNOUT IN THESE RURAL COUNTIES OF OHIO. AND IT WASN’T JUST YOU KNOW SO MAYBE 10,000 MORE VOTES IN VAN WORTH COUNTY OR WHERE HAVE YOU AROUND OHIO. THAT ADDS UP. YOU HAVE 10,000 TIMES 80 IS YOUR 800,000 VOTE MARGIN. IF HE CAN KEEP TURNOUT UP, HE’S GOING TO BE TOUGH TO BEAT.>>WILL HE BEAT HILLARY CLINTON BY EIGHT POINTS AND JOE BIDEN IS IS BEATING HIM RIGHT NOW. BY EIGHT POINTS. HE’S THE MINERAL, THE YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO ADD TO YOUR BASE IS E VIS RATED.>>DOES THAT MAKE THE CAMPAIGNS PAID MORE ATTENTION TO OHIO. KEEP HEARING THAT OHIO IS PINK, GONE RED. DOESN’T MATTER ANYMORE.>>I DON’T THINK OHIO IS IMPORTANT, AS MUCH OF A SWING STATE AS IT USED TO BE, HOWEVER, I THINK THAT THE PRESIDENT CANNOT TAKE IT FOR GRANTED. JOE BIDEN COULD COME IN AND EAT HIS LUNCH HERE. MORE ON THE FACT THE VICE PRESIDENT HAS BEEN HERE TWICE THIS WEEK.>>THEY’RE NOT TAKING IT FOR GRANTED.>>PAY ATTENTION TO THAT POLL.>>INVESTMENT IN OHIO MAY PAY OFF MORE. TRYING TO ADD TO THE FIGHTING IN ARIZONA AND TEXAS. OHIO MAY IN FACT BE A BETTER TARGET OF OPPORTUNITY.>>IF IT’S DEMOCRAT, TURN OUT IN THOSE CITIES OR DO YOU HAVE, I KNOW ALL 18 ELECTORAL VOTES ARE FROM OHIO, BUT I MEAN –>>THE BIGGEST BASE OF DEMOCRATS IS IN THE CLEVELAND AREA. YOU HAVE TO TURNOUT UP THERE BIG OR YOU’RE NOT GOING TO WIN OHIO.>>BUT YOU CAN’T IGNORE. YOU CAN’T IGNORE THE WESTERN PART OF THE STATE. YOU KNOW YOU GOING TO LOSE A LOT OF THOSE COUNTIES, BUT IT MAKES A WORLD OF DIFFERENCE WHETHER YOU LOSE 60-40. BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CANDIDATE THAT APPEALS.>>THE GROUP PUSHING TO REPEAL THE ENERGY LAW WILL SOON MOVE ON TO THE NEXT STEP IN THE PROCESS. THE GOAL IS IS TO ASK VOTER TO REPEAL THE BAILOUT BILL. THE QUESTION WOULD APPEAR ON THE NOVEMBER 2020 BALLOT. THE GROUP SUBMITTED THE INITIAL STRONG NUMBER SIGNATURES AND PETITION LANGUAGE IF OKAYED, THEY’LL HAVE TO COLLECT MORE THAN A QUARTER MILLION MORE SIGNATURES TO GET IT ON THE BALLOT THIS WEEK. KIND OF IRONIC. EVERYTHING THAT WENT INTO THIS BILL.>>THEY GOT A HEAVY LIFT. AND THEY GOT A TIGHT TIME FRAME. BUT YOU’VE GOT LIKE THE FREE MARKET PEOPLE LIKE BUCKEYE INSTITUTE AND AMERICANS FOR PROSPERITY, THE KOCH BROTHERS, ENVIRONMENTALISTS, THE SIERRA CLUB. KIND OF LIKE BRING ALL THE GROUPS TOGETHER AND HARN ESZ HARNESS THE MONEY. HOWEVER, EVEN IF YOU GET IT ON THE BALLOT. IT’S GOING TO BE A MASSIVE.>>SAFE JOBS OR CORPORATE JOBS.>>JUST MULTIPLY IT. IT’S GOING TO BE MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.>>AND WE’LL BE EXPRESSED ADVOCACY, TOO. IT’S NOT GOING TO BE SO-CALLED EDUCATIONAL CALL YOUR SENATOR AND TELL THEM YOUR JOB. IT’S GOING TO BE REALLY TOUGH, HARD HITTING STUFF.>>AND DARK MONEY. YOU’RE NOT GOING TO KNOW. IT’S GOING TO BE THE OHIO FROM OHIO OR WHAT HAVE YOU.>>WELL THE BIG BACKER OF IT HAS BEEN GENERATION NOW, A DARK MONEY GROUP. THEY SPENT $9.5 MILLION ON THOSE ADS. AND THE WHOLE THING ABOUT HOW. THE ADVERTISING CAMPAIGN. 1.65 FOR 2017 IN EARLY 2019. AND I THINK THAT YOU KNOW A LOT OF IT HAD TO DO WITH THE POWER STRUGGLE FOR THE SPEAKER’S GAVEL. LARRY HOUSEHOLDER WAS SUPPORTED BY A GROWTH AND OPPORTUNITIES BACK WHICH HAS LINKS TO GENERATION NOW ON PAPER. SO IT’S GOT AN INTERESTING BACK STORY AND I THINK IT’S GOING TO HAVE AN INTERESTING STORY GOING FORWARD.>>SO IRONIC THAT HE WAS COMPLAINING, FOREIGN MONEY PERHAPS. STILL. YOU HAD TO HAVE IT.>>NOBODY DEMANDS CONSISTENCY.>>SO WITH JOBS, IS THAT A LEGITIMATE ARGUMENT? FOR THESE NUCLEAR PLANTS UP NORTH.>>THERE’S 1400 DIRECT JOBS. ABOUT 4,000 TOTAL DIRECT AND INDREK JOBS, HOWEVER THE COUNTERPOINTS TO THAT FROM THE GREEN ENERGY PEOPLE IS THAT THESE ENERGY EFFICIENCY STANDARDS THAT ARE GOING TO BE WIPED OUT ALL THESE PROGRAMS LIKE WEATHERIZATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT THAT’S PROVIDED LIKE 80 OR 82,000 JOBS IN OHIO. SO YOU COULD SAY OKAY, YOU SAVE 4,000 E HERE, BUT LOST 80,000 DL.>>I COULD NEVER UNDERSTAND WHY THEY HAD TO INCLUDE THAT HARSH ATTACK ON RENEWABLES TO MAKE THIS BILL WORK.>>IT WAS TO GET VOTES.>>ALSO YOU KNEW YOU WERE GENERATING MORE OPPOSITION. I’M NOT SURE IT GOT THEM THAT MANY VOTES AND IT GAVE SOME DEMOCRATS AN OPPORTUNITY.>>IT ONLY PASSED BY WUP VOTE. THEY NEEDED THE VOTE.>>NOW PROVIDES IN TERMS OF OPPOSITION TO THE ENVIRONMENTALIST.>>THE BILL, REPLACE IT WITH THE FEES FOR THE NUCLEAR AND COAL PLANT TO REPLACE IT.>>LONG-TERM. PILES ECONOMY AND JOBS REALLY GETS HURT.>>THIS REALLY ISN’T A PART OF AN ISSUE. THERE ARE DEMOCRATS WHO SUPPORTED THIS NEW LAW.>>IT WOULD NOT HAVE PASSED BY DEMOCRATIC VOTES. SO THIS CAMPAIGN IF IT GOES THROUGH REPEAL, ESPECIALLY DEMOCRATS IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE STATE WHERE THESE JOBS ARE ARE GOING B TO BE SUPPORTING IT, KEEPING IT. ENVIRONMENTAL DEMOCRATS SAYING GET RID OF IT.>>YOU NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE CAMPAIGN FINANCE FILING TO SEE HOW MANY OF THESE DEMOCRATS GET BIG CHECKS FROM FIRST ENERGY SOLUTIONS.>>JOB CREATOR RIGHT THERE.>>DEATH PENALTY OPPONENTS SAY IT IS TIME FOR MORE CHANGES TO THE WAY THE STATE PROSECUTOR CUTES CAPITAL PUNISHMENT. THIS CAME AFTER THE EXECUTION WAS DELAYED OF A DEATH ROW INMATE FOR THE SECOND TIME. THE GOVERNOR SAID STATE HASN’T BEEN ABLE TO FIND A DRUG SUPPLIER FOR A NEW EXECUTION METHOD. A JUDGE IN JANUARY WILL BE — BASICALLY CRUEL AND UNUSUAL. HOUSE SPEAKER AND SENATE PRESIDENT WILL MEET TO CONSIDER OTHER METHODS OF EXECUTION. DOES THAT MEAN THAT WE’RE LOOKING AT ELECTRIC CHAIR OR GAS CHAMBER IN OHIO? DO WE KNOW YET?>>THE GOVERNOR MADE SURE THE STATE THE SPECIFICALLY AVOIDED SAYING WHAT KINDS OF EXCUSE OPTIONS HE WOULD FAVOR BECAUSE AS HE NOTED, THERE’S A PENDING LAWSUIT SO HE DOESN’T WANT THE WEIGH IN ON THAT. OHIO’S BEEN TRYING FOR YEARS, LIKE MANY OTHER STATES, HAS BEEN TRYING HARD FOR YEARS, STRUGGLING TO FIND EXCUSE DRUGS BECAUSE MOST OF THE MAJOR FARM SIT CAL COMPANIES, THEY’VE BEEN GETTING THESE DRUGS FROM HAVE REFUSED TO SELL THEM. THEY’RE NOT JUST LIKE POISONED DRUGS, THEY’RE OFTEN USED FOR LEGITIMATE MEDICAL PURPOSES AS WELL SO THESE COMPANIES REFUSE TO SELL. IN FACT, ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THE GOVERNOR DOESN’T WANT HAS SAID THAT THEY’VE STRUGGLED TO FIND THESE DRUGS IS THAT THE COMPANIES SAY HEY, IF WE FIND YOU’RE USING THESE DRUGS TO KILL PEOPLE, IT’S NOT JUST ABOUT, WE’RE NOT JUST GOING TO CUT OFF SALES OF THAT DRUG, WE’RE GOING TO STOP ALL THE SALES OF ALL THE OTHER NONEXECUTION DRUGS TO THE STATE, TOO.>>THE STATE IS GETTING AROUND. THERE WAS ANOTHER DEPARTMENT BUYING IT THEN –>>YEAH. SO YOU TALK B ABOUT PEOPLE LOSING ACCESS TO THEIR MENTAL HEALTH DRUGS, THAT’S A BIG CONSIDERATION.>>MEDICAID.>>YES.>>SO IT SEEMS LIKE THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON NOW I DON’T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A LETHAL INJECTION PROTOCOL. THEY WANT TO FIND DIFFERENT METHODS.>>I THINK IT’S GOOD THE GOVERNOR IS REACHING OUT TO THE SENATE AND HOUSE LEADERS BECAUSE THIS IS A MUCH BIGGER QUESTION. AND IT’S THE SHOE THAT REALLY HAS TO BE DEBATED OUT IN PUBLIC. AND SO I SEE THAT AS A REALLY GOOD STEP AND WHETHER WHAT COMES OF IT WE DON’T KNOW, BUT IT’S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF DISCUSSION BY ALL OF THE STAKE HOLDERS. THOSE WHO ARE OR TO HE WANT THE DEFENSE BAR OR THE PROSECUTORS. ALL OF THAT NEEDS TO BE WEIGHED ON IN THE PUBLIC.>>DO YOU EVER SEE OHIO GOING FOR FIRING SQUAD OR GOING BACK TO –>>NO BUT I THINK THIS NOTION OF A HUMANE WAY TO CARRY OUT THE DEATH PENALTY FOR SOME IS AN OXY MORON, BUT TRYING TO FIND SOMETHING THAT HAS THE MINIMAL AMOUNT OF PAIN AND INDIVIDUALS HAVE TO BE BRING, HAVE TO WORK WITH HAVING ALL THE SUFFERING. IT SURPRISES ME THAT THEY CAN’T FIND A PHARMACEUTICAL WAY OF DOING THIS OR INJECTION WAY OF DOING IT. BUT THEY’RE CLAIMING IT’S BEEN VERY VERY, DIFFICULT.>>I THINK THEY’LL COME UP WITH ANOTHER LETHAL INJECTION METHOD. I DON’T FORESEE THEY’LL BRING IN A FIRING SQUAD OR OLD SPARKY AND THERE ARE NO INDIVIDUAL YULS. THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS. NO CAMERA, NO RECORDING. DOCUMENTATION, JUST PEN AND PAPER. RIGHT.>>WHAT THIS IS GOING TO COME DOWN TO THERE’S A LAWSUIT PENDING BEING APPEALED ABOUT THE CONSTITUTIONALITY OF THE LETHAL INJECTION OF SYSTEM THAT OHIO IS IS NOW IN JULY AND EVERYONE ELSE IS GOING TO WAIT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT. THAT’S WHERE IT STANDS NOW.>>ALL RIGHT. LET’S GET TO OUR FINAL OFF THE RECORD PARTING SHOTS. YOU’RE FIRST.>>I THINK THAT THIS DONALD TRUMP LOSES OHIO. THAT HE WILL LOSE 400 ELECTORAL VOTES. OF MAKING OHIO REALLY CRITICAL.>>PERFECT. MEDDLING WILL BE BACK ON THE AGENDA AGAIN. NOT JUST THE MUELLER REPORT. WILL NOW HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN IN TERMS OF HOW STATE SYSTEMS ARE PROTECTED FROM POTENTIAL MEDDLING.>>I THINK AFTER THE REDISTRICTING, AFTER THE 2020 CENSUS THAT TIME RYAN IS GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR A NEW JOB B.>>OKAY.>>HE’S NOT GOING TO HAVE A DISTRICT TO RUN. HE’S GOING TO FILE IN DECEMBER FOR HIS CURRENT OR NEXT TERM.>>HE’S GOT ONE MORE.>>ALL RIGHT. UNEMPLOYMENT.>>GOVERNOR DEWINE AND PRESIDENT TRUMP DISKISS THE HEALTH OF THE GREAT LAKES IN CINCINNATI THIS WEEK AND WE KNOW THE GREAT LAKE STATES ARE IMPORTANT TO TRUMP’S RE-ELECTION SO I’LL PREDICT A NEW CAMPAIGN STUMP. MAKE THE GREAT LAKES GREAT AGAIN.>>CORRECTION FROM LAST WEEK’S SHOW. I WISHED OFF OF THE WRITERS GOOD LUCK. THINKING IT WAS LAST WEEKEND. IT’S THIS WEEKEND. SO AGAIN, I WISH ALL THE WRITERS GOOD LUCK AND CONGRATULATIONS FOR RAISING THOSE MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO HELP FIGHT CANCER. GOOD LUCK AND BE SAFE OUT THERE THIS WEEKEND. THAT IS ON THE RECORD THIS WEEK. CHECK US OUT ONLINE, B FACEBOOK, TWITTER. I THINK WE’RE ON INSTAGRAM AS WELL. YOU CAN SEE EACH EPISODE ON DEMAND ON YOUR OWN TIME ON OUR WEBSITE. FOR OUR PANEL, HAVE A GOOD WEEK.

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