When I was born, I was in the forest. When my grandparents were alive they would take us there. What we would do there was – one – hunting for subsistence. So just to eat. We would go foraging. We would go fishing. We would gather medicinal plants. We would also go to the forest to avoid epidemics of certain diseases We would also organise our traditional ceremonies that are the Baka tradition. But now with this problem to do with conservation in this forest, we are no longer able to go there And if we even try, they beat us, threaten us and even take us to prison That is what happening here today.