#39 Sagging: Menace or Fashion Statement?


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extra intelligent International Travelers Club from Martin Luther King Preparator–
College Preparatory High School. Whew. Of Frayser community schools. So clap for yourselves
again. Alright, alright. So our question for today is: do you let your kids sag their pants?
“Sagging: is it a menace to society or just a fashion statement?” And believe it or not,
this has been a very controversial question. I have gotten so many responses on Facebook.
I can’t even count them all. We will get to those. But my listeners out there: if you
want to get in on this conversation, give us a call at 901-260-5926. That’s 901-260-KWAM.
So we’re getting right into it. I’m going to let everyone introduce themselves. I’m
not going to even attempt to remember names. So I’m going to start with the adult first
and we’ll roll around. So Mr. Taillie- I do know your name.
Alex Taillie. Alright, good and tell us a little about yourself.
I’m a teacher at MLK College Preparatory High School and I am the founder of ITC.
Thank you. Okay, go right ahead. My name is Tavion Moore. I’m a twelfth grader
at Martin Luther King Jr. College Preparatory. Okay Tavion use your outside voice, not the
sexy-talking-to-the-girlfriend voice. Okay, thank you Tavion. Moving right along.
My name is Tyree’Shawn Carter. I’m a ninth grader at MLK College Preparatory High School.
Tershawn. Tyree’Shawn.
Tyree’Shawn. That’s right. Okay thank you Tyree’Shawn.
My name is Najzma Carson. I’m a tenth grader at MLK College Preparatory High School.
Alright thank you Mr. Carson. My name is Tristan Jones. I’m a tenth grader
at MLK College Preparatory High School. Alright Tristan. Okay.
My name is Catrellus Yancey. I’m a tenth grader and I attend Craigmont High School.
Catrellus, alright. Thank you. Well I noticed none of you are sagging; so let me hear what
your thoughts are about this particular topic. Do you think that sagging is a menace to society?
Like it’s really really really bad. It’s a criminal activity or something that should
be considered criminal. Or is it just a fashion statement? Who wants to go first?
I think it’s inappropriate. Oh! Ooo! Mr. Carson thinks it’s inappropriate.
Let’s hear why you think it’s inappropriate. Because like nobody wants to see your draws
[inaudible]. Okay. Alright. I understand; so it irritates
you. When you see it you think it’s nasty and inappropriate. Okay and you think it indicates
homosexuality in some form or fashion. Okay. Yes I have heard that some people believe
that the origins of it come from the prison system and how people would maybe indicate
their sexual preference by showing their underwear and their rear-ends. Okay, thank you very
much. Anyone else? Somebody else’s thoughts. Get in there. Go ahead.
I feel like people shouldn’t want to follow up behind what you’ve seen come from prison.
It’s just really crazy. So you don’t like the fact that it originates
in the prison sector. Okay, thank you. Anybody else?
I believe it’s really disrespectful because nowadays you have kids doing what they see
other kids doing. And now say if you’re sagging like your parents the kids are now wanting
to sag, grow up and just do that. And I don’t think that you should.
Okay, so you’re saying that there are some kids who have parents that sag? Wow. Wow.
Okay thank you. So they have to make a decision not to even follow what their parents are
doing because they think maybe their parents are inappropriate as Mr. Carson said.
And when they see their parents do it then they may think it’s right.
Okay. So you hear that out there parents? Have to lead your kids in the right direction.
And do you have a comment? A thought about it?
I feel that if you’re going to sag your pants you need to do it like when others aren’t
around. Like do it in the privacy of your home or something like that. Don’t subject
everybody to what you like to do. Oh okay; so you feel like it’s a private issue
that maybe if you want to walk around in your house – like a lot of us do – we walk around
in our homes maybe with clothes that we would not wear outside or at school then that’s
your preference but don’t make everybody else have to see your underwear. Wow. Well ladies
and gentlemen we’re almost at out first break and as you can hear we have some very strong
opinions in this room. We have some kids who have their heads on straight. So all of you
out there who believe that all the kids of the world are not doing things correctly and
they’re all part of the devil and are going straight to hell, you are wrong. We have some
great young men and young ladies in this room today and we are going to tackle this issue
more when we come back from our first break. We’ll hear what some of our Facebook friends
had to say and we’ll also take some callers. If you want to get in on this conversation
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fantastic International Travelers Club from Martin Luther King College Preparatory High
School right here from the Frayser community schools here in Memphis, TN. Tell us a little
bit about where you are trying to go this year. Anybody. Where are you going this year?
Costa Rica. Costa Rica? Now that’s on my bucket list.
I wanna go to Costa Rica. Might be able to get some friends. So how much money does that
take and how can we help you? Speak into the mic.
$40000 and you can reach us by email or phone. The email is [email protected]
or www.gofundme.com/itc38127. Alright good job. So I will be contributing
as I did last year. In fact, you all almost marked my first year anniversary. It was about
this time last year right before I started with my show you gave me a lot of inspiration.
I really appreciate that so I’m always looking forward to contributing. And those of you
out there- every time you see a young man with his pants not sagging you should think
about contributing to the ITC. $10 for every one you see. So hopefully each one of you
will see at least ten young men. There are one, two, three, four, five, six, seven in
here right now who aren’t sagging. So that’s $70 already. So our question for today in
case you have not caught on- the question is sagging: number one- do you let your kids
sag their pants, and number two- is it a menace to society or just a fashion statement. And
my young protegees here – so far – they have felt that it’s inappropriate, it’s something
that you should do at home, you shouldn’t have it out in the street. Now do you think
that it is creating crime going on in society today or is it just something that is of poor
taste? Anybody. I don’t think it’s a fashion. I think people
just see other people doing it. Okay so you think it’s just a trend. It’s
just something that other people see people doing and then they copy it?
They probably think it makes them look more “streeter.”
Okay, okay so it’s something where if someone is looking at you, they may assume that you’re
a thug or that you are involved in some sort of criminal activity even if you’re not. Okay.
I can understand that. In fact we’re going to get into some of our stats and facts in
just a few minutes but first I just want to read what some of my Facebook people have
to say. Let’s see here. Okay I see here that Terrance says “no. I would not let my son
or daughter to sag their pants. Although I think it’s just a fashion statement. It’s
not something that I allow in my home. So no.” ‘Kay. So then– thank you so much for
that statement Terrance. Then– let’s see here. I have Tanya who said: “tailored is
a luxury. That’s what I tell my son. I’m trying to teach him the importance of buying pants
at the appropriate waist and length size. It’s difficult to find his size but certain
apparel stores do have it. Wearing tailored pants is something that people of means are
able to wear. So don’t look lazy, pull your pants up.” Thank you so much Tanya. We have
a caller? Okay they hung up. Okay well caller please call back. And then lastly Pamela says
“I say that it is a fashion that needs to D.I.E. die. It also looks like they’re carrying
a load. Why wear something you have to continuously pull up?” So people have some very, very strong
comments here about the sagging pants. What do you think Mr. Taillie? I know you’re one
of the adults at the school and you all help to set the tone for the students. So tell
us your thoughts. We had mentioned during the break that you
know that it’s not really an expectation for ITC, but it is one of those that when we decide
what students we are gonna take and be a part of ITC there’s a certain expectation of what
we look for and you know for me sagging it’s lazy. It’s something that– you know you have
hips for a reason. So whether it’s your hips or a belt utilize those things. You look more
professional. You look more together than when you’re sagging and looking like you just
don’t care. Okay, alright thank you. Thank you very much
I appreciate that. So you have a criteria for students that you are gonna take to Costa
Rica. They need to be at a higher level than some other students. Well that’s certainly
understandable. So we’re going to look at a few more comments here before we get– before
we take a break and then we’re going to get into our stats and facts. So Adam says “who
are our sons and daughters imitating? Are they imitating their parents, their friends,
or what they see on ‘TELL-evision’. I would not allow my son to wear his pants below his
waist for several reasons. One: he represents me and my household. Two: in the prison system
– that’s what someone else said – pants below your waist means you’re owned sexually by
another man. And three: he represents himself as a man. No self-respecting man would walk
around with their underwear showing.” And I totally agree with all of those comments.
A lot of people believe that but then there’re also young ladies who sag too. I’ve seen that.
So what are your thoughts about that? Young ladies sagging, showing their thong underwear?
Do you have any thoughts? Anybody have any thoughts?
I couldn’t hear you repeat that. I’m gonna keep my comments to myself.
Oh really. You’re going to keep your comments to yourself. Anybody else? Any thoughts? Would
you guys– do you like girls who walk around showing their underwear?
No. I think if a female wants to walk around like that she has no self-respect.
Okay. Alright so it shows she has kinda low self-esteem. What do you guys think?
It’s unattractive. Unattractive. Okay. Hear that ladies? You’re
out there– what about– because they– what is that the tramp stamps? Sometimes they wanna–
they want to let the pants down to show the what– the tattoos on the back? What are your
thoughts about that? Does that look good or not?
No. No okay. So keep the stamp under the shirt.
Okay alright. So you’ve heard it from the horse’s mouth here. Kids don’t necessarily
like it. They don’t necessarily think that it looks good. So maybe we have to start saying
that more so other kids can actually hear and know what the thoughts are. So after this
next break we will get into our stats and our facts. We’ll look at what some popular
culture is saying about sagging and really some of the more sinister thoughts about it
because there are some moves out there to criminalize sagging to actually make it against
the law. So we will talk about that when we come back. If you’d like to get in on this
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[email protected] What are your status updates saying? Your’re
learning a new language? Going all organic? Instead of typing your feelings, what if you
could put them into action by creating a network to help keep kids off the streets in a country
like Armenia or in Honduras? What if every ounce of your being helped update the status
of a person and, in turn, they did the same for you? Would this be enough social interaction?
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Crye-Leike Realtors at 901-355-7271 for all your real estate needs today! Okay you’re back. You’re listening to “On the Couch with Dr. Kay!” right here on AM 990 Talk Radio, and we’re asking the question: do you let your kids sag? Is this a fashion
faux pas or a menace to society? And I have in the studio with me today the International
Travelers Club from THE Martin Luther King College Preparatory High School RIGHT from
Frayser here in Memphis, TN. Give yourselves a hand guys because you all have been absolutely
fantastic already today. And we are going to get into our stats and facts because right
over the break we were talking about where this trend actually began. So our stats and
facts, as always, were researched by my super intelligent intern Stanley Shotwell II. Thank
you Stanley! Yay! Wave at Stanley everybody. Stanley wave at everybody. We can’t see you!
Let them– Okay, he doesn’t– Oh thank you, yay! Okay so Stanley got this information
for me and he is fantastic as always. So he looked at first the origin of sagging pants.
He says– and this is from an article entitled “The Murky Genesis of Sagging” an NPR blog–
that’s National Public Radio blog explores the topic of sagging and its history and its
origin. According to the blogger how and where the sagging trend begins is murky. According
to the blogger the most familiar origin myth for sagging goes something like this: convicts
prohibited from wearing belts often were sagging prison-issued uniforms and they carried that
look with them once they were back on the outside. And it’s my understanding that they
couldn’t wear belts to prevent suicide or homicide too I’m sure. Another story goes
that some prisoners would wear their pants low to let other inmates know they were sexually
available. That comes from NPR “Sagging Pants and the Long History of ‘Dangerous Street
Fashion.'” Next, sagging and the law because we wanted to look at the correlation between
sagging pants and criminal activity or the law. So some states have entered– have enacted
bans against sagging and have not– yeah bans against sagging. According to a 2012 article
from the Daily Mail, the Cocoa Florida City Council granted local law enforcement “the
powers of a fashion police” after they passed a law banning the wearing of saggy pants in
public. This ban included exposed underwear or skin more than three inches below the waistline
on city property- that would be streets, sidewalks, etc. “Those judged by the police to be wearing
inappropriately hanging pants will be handed a civil fine of $25 for the first offense,
$75 for a third, and $100 every time after that. So you’re hearing it right from the
stats and facts that now we are beginning to criminalize sagging pants. And whenever
we do that– some people believe– and this comes from “A New Look for Racial Profiling:
Saggy Pants Legislation.” They’re saying we “increase the risk to ourselves by using our
scarce resources targeting people who have done no harm other than to dress in a way
that others don’t like.” So what are your thoughts about that? Do you think we need
to start arresting or fining people– the police– for wearing saggy pants? Should it
be against the law or should it just be something that people say well it’s just not a good
idea? What are your thoughts about that? Anybody? Well I feel like it really wouldn’t be a problem
with people getting fined with sagging. Okay alright. So who would enact the laws?
Well the police. Mmhm. Okay. Anybody else have any thoughts?
I also agree with the fining but I think they should charge more for that because the more
you charge and the more you get caught doing it the more you will not want to pay again
if you get caught. Okay alright I understand. Wow. You all are
tough on crime. Are you republicans? But I understand that. This is something that a
lot of people really find distasteful- so much so that they do want to criminalize it
and to find someway to stop it. Do you remember the song– and this was from Hopson– “Sag
My Pants.” And I wanted to use it on my show but there was so much profanity in it I couldn’t
even– even the clean version was dirty, but one thing that he talks about in his song
is basically– he feels that he sags his pants as a way to tell society that he doesn’t care–
that you know– it’s a way of really having some type of defiance against– just everyday
society and so this is what some people are looking at when they are thinking about sagging
pants. They feel like this is a way for me to show my rejection of values of mainstream
society. Some people feel like it’s a symbol of freedom and cultural awareness among some
youth. Do you think that’s true? Are there some kids out there– they’re just doing it
as a way to show that– you know that they don’t care what mainstream society feels?
Any thoughts about that? Once again I don’t think it’s that. I just
think it’s monkey see monkey do. Ooo okay.
And I guess when they see other people do it– or certain people they see do it.
Okay like who are some of the people they see do it?
Some people such as gang members or their friends. If they see a gang member then they’ll
feel like they have a higher authority. Something like that.
So these are maybe some negative role models in the teen community. So these are people
who are outside of mainstream society. So they could be saying “hey I’m outside of society.
I’m not trying to be a part of it. I want to show you even that I’m not a part of mainstream
society.” For some people they believe that. But wow I really appreciate all of your comments
on that. I was looking again at some more information just regarding some adults’ ideas
about trying to actually criminalize this– I think it’s kind of a fashion statement for
some people. You see rappers who are on television. They’re wearing– sagging their pants. You’ve
seen some women sag their pants and throughout the ages there have been times when young
people were trying to just express themselves- whether it was through sagging pants– a long
time ago it was Afros and dashikis. I remember when Michael Jackson came out everybody wanted
to wear short pants and show off their socks. That was the new fashion trend. It wasn’t
necessarily all that cute but you know people wanted to do that. Girls for a while– and
this was only a few years ago– they would buy their bras to match their shirts and let
their bra straps show. But we didn’t necessarily have a law against it. But for some reason
this sagging of the pants is just really something that people just cannot tolerate and I have
an interesting piece of information that I found on Wikipedia, and this actually refers
to your founder Bobby White. It says that– it says a school in Memphis, TN in an interview
on WMC TV, principal Bobby White– so this was when he was a principle stated that the
general idea is to fight pop culture with pop culture. So what they would do is– they
would tell students anyone caught sagging would be “Urkeled.” So you all know about
this? Okay. They would be “Urkeled,” and this was a reference to the character Steve Urkel.
And– I’m sorry somebody just walked in. So basically what would happen is they would
yank your pants up and attach them with zip ties.
Mmhm. Okay so tell us about that. Anybody remember
that? Getting Urkeled or anybody getting Urkeled? I don’t remember that.
Okay. Okay alright. So we have a caller who wasn’t able to get through so– Let me put
her up against the microphone. Okay hi caller you’re on the air with Dr. Kay. You have a
question or comment? Turn your radio down. Hi Ms. Scott? Hello?
Hello? Hi you have a question or comment? You’re
on the air with Dr. Kay. I can’t hear you say what?
Do you have a question or comment? You’re on the air with Dr. Kay.
Yes I was commenting on the sagging pants. Yes ma’am so what’s your comment?
My comment is that young men need to pull their pants up. It’s not a good thing to have
your pants pulled down below your knees. Also it’s not a good thing– and it’s not a good
health practice. The pants are pulled down. You’re sitting in chairs. You don’t know what’s
in the chairs. Okay caller please call back. I think you
cut out on us. So as soon as we get you back on we will put you back on the air. We have
another caller? Okay. Alright so I believe Ms. Scott is a school nurse right? Okay Randa.
Randa just walked in. Hi Randa good to see you. Hello hello. Wow we’re almost out of
time. So I heard her say that there were some medical issues associated with sagging pants.
Yes. She has always explained to the students that you have to be careful when you’re wearing
your pants that low. Okay.
They sit in the chair that’s full of bacteria, fecal matter.
Ooo yeah you’re right. The person that’s wearing their pants that
low could have fecal matter on them. So you have to think about it to that degree. Sometimes
we’re not looking at it from that point of view. We’re looking at the style, and I know
all of us have style. Swagger.
And swagger. I know there are some things that I’ve worn that mom didn’t like per se,
but when we look back at her pictures– Yes.
We’re able to think of some things like what? You said we couldn’t wear this but you all
wore that? Right.
Which is pretty much on the same level. We’re just– I guess in another– time from them.
So she was looking at it from a health point of view.
Alright. And when you look at it from that point.
It really makes you think. It makes a lot of sense. Thank you nurse Scott so much for
calling in and bringing a totally different look at it. We really appreciate that because
I think a lot of us have not thought about– especially the fecal matter ew. Especially
when you start to think about Ebola and hepatitis or blood or anything. So that’s a problem.
Bacteria of the skin eating disease. Oh you’re right you’re right. So there are
some health issues that we really want to address. So we want to make sure that we’re
thinking about that along with all of the criminal elements. Okay so we have another
caller. Hey good afternoon Dr. Kay and to my favorite
guests in the studio. Hello. Hi Brother Love. Thank you so much
for– Oh they are scrambling to get the earphones. So you are an exciting person to them. So
you have a question or comment Brother Love? Well I’ll be real quick. I just want to say
I thank all the young people that are in the studio today. They’re my heroes and I’m so
proud of them and I’m so glad all of them keep their pants up. Tavion, you and the crew,
I’m real proud of all of you. Also I want to say something real quick about the criminal
part of it. I don’t believe you should be arrested for sagging pants, but I do believe
or wish there was some way that authorities could stop you on the streets and make you
pull your pants up – just like they make you get off the corner or get away from hanging
in front of stores or whatever– same thing. I’m not looking for anyone to go to jail but
I do think somebody with authority or an adult or a mature adult should be allowed to ask
that child or young person to pull their pants up.
Alright. That’s my comment on that. Great show, great
guest, great audience, all of that and I appreciate the show. And I’m going to hang up so I can
listen to the last few minutes of it. Alright well thank you so much for calling.
We really appreciate it as always Brother Love and for those of you out there do not
walk Brother Love’s street because he will snatch you and tell you to raise up your pants.
So thank you so much for calling and if anyone wants to get in on this conversation give
us a call at 901-260-5926. In our last few minutes we have one more break. We’ll be back
after these messages. You’re listening to “On the Couch with Dr. Kay!” We’re asking
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Karen Streeter Psychological Consulting is a firm dedicated to helping parents, schools,
churches and organizations assess and treat learning, emotional, and behavior difficulties
in children. We offer services such as IQ testing, academic testing, behavior analyses,
behavioral planning, preventive counseling, parent training, staff development, professional
development, crisis management, and risk assessment and so much more. To enrich the lives of your
children, call Karen Streeter Psychological Consulting at 901-650-2569 or email me at
[email protected] Streeter’s Total Beauty is a hair salon that
invites you to enjoy a lifestyle full of beauty today. Dial 901-649-0559. Look to Randa Patton
Streeter’s lifestyles blog which also invites you to enjoy a lifestyle full of high fashion
and glamour. Like her on Facebook today. Alright. You’re back listening to “On the
Couch with Dr. Kay!” right here on AM 990 KWAM. We’re asking the question: do you let your son or daughter sag? Is this a fashion faux pas or a menace to society? And I am here with the super intelligent International Travelers Club from MLK College Preparatory
High School right here in Memphis in the Frayser community. And they’ve had a lot of great
comments. We’ve talked about the health issues surrounding the pants. We’ve also talked about
the criminalizing and all of these very conservative students believe not only should we fine them
but we should fine them more money to ensure they keep their pants up and I’m happy to
say all of our students here in the radio station are very well dressed. Do we have
a caller? Okay. Hi caller you’re on the air with Dr. Kay. Do you have a question or comment?
Yes ma’am I’m just a general pediatrician but I know a lot of the young teenage boys
are attracted to the teenage girls. And I wonder if they could do a survey at the school
and ask the girls “would you be more attracted to the fella who has his pants down or one
who has it up, or does it make a difference?” If they could do a little survey–
Oh. Right, I like that. That’s a creative way of looking at it. I appreciate that. Thank
you so much! Have a nice day I’m enjoying the program.
Thank you and continue to listen and call back again okay?
Appreciate it, thank you ma’am. Thank you. Alright. So how do you think that
survey would go? Do you think kids would really answer the survey? What percentage do you
think– 50% of the girls would like it? 60%? What percentage do you think? Tell me your
name again. Tristan. What percentage of girls do you think
would like it? I think it’d be more girls who like boys who
have their pants down. Really? So it’s the girls who are causing
this. The girls are keeping it going. So the boys are wearing the pants down because the
girls like it. That’s how I feel.
Okay girls. Well girls we have a lot on our shoulders. We have to change what we like
if we want to change this trend. So we are almost out of time. Wow this time just flies
by. We are going to get into our Four Points for today and the four points– basically
I want everybody to realize that a lot of this is hype. Let’s say that together.
HYPE. H.Y.P.E. HYPE. The first thing that we need to realize as
adults is number one: how can we say things are really horrible or bad when we are purchasing
the clothing. If you don’t want your son to sag, don’t buy the pants that are too big.
Y: young people often times will try to buck authority. They will try to show themselves
as being different and show their creativity. And in some cases that’s all this is. It’s
a way for a young person to just separate themselves and to show their creativity. P:
we always have to put things in perspective. Yes we do not like to see kids with their
pants down, but it should not be criminalized. Because once we start talking about arresting
children– now we’re starting to look at maybe your child getting arrested simply for having
their pants sagging. That’s not something we want to start. We want to keep it in perspective
and be creative. Creative like Bobby White was creative in schools. Creative like that
doctor who said let’s take a survey. So there are other ways we can combat this other than
just trying to get the police involved, because E: everybody wants to be accepted. So sometimes
you’re seeing this because kids either want to be accepted by certain crowds like “boys
want to do it because girls like it” or you see some gang members who feel like they’ve
been rejected from other people. So they’re doing it to be accepted by their particular
peers, even though they are negative. So don’t believe the hype, H.Y.P.E. Alright thank you. And we have another caller. Hi caller you’re on the air. Do you have a question or comment? Yes how are you doing today? Fine how are you?
Doing great doing great. Good. What’s your comment or question?
I’m totally against the kids and the pants sagging, but I think we’re going to have to
find another way to get them to pull their pants up. I hope it’s just a fad that will
just go away, but I don’t think just arresting them is going to be the answer. Looks like
that’s going to cause a lot of different problems. And I’m not sure who’s trying to make that
a law– is it a city, county, state? Well it hasn’t happened here but it has happened
in some other states. For an example in Florida. Yes, but I can’t see them arresting six, seven,
eight year old kids. Are they going to give them a ticket or take them downtown and give
them a police record for this? Are these kids going to pay the fine? They’re going to fine
the parent. And one person commit a crime and someone else or a parent has to pay for it. So it sounds like you’re saying it should
be really more responsibility for the parents. Yes. The parents are going to have to work
with that but you know we have kids raising kids now. So it looks like some of the parents
are teaching the kids to wear their pants down. I’ve seen what looked like two and three
year old kids with their pants hanging down. You know that’s the parents doing that. How
can kids learn that way? I don’t have a good answer for it but it just looks like something
we may have to just pray about. Alright well listen thank you so much. I hate
to cut you off but we’re running out of time. Thank you so much for those wise words. Continue
to listen and call again okay? Okay sure will.
Thank you so much. Wow. We are out of time. So as always in parting: I wish you a life
full of love, peace, and happiness. If you cannot be in love, then at least try to be
happy. If you cannot be happy, then at least try to be peaceful. But if your peace has
been disturbed then it’s time for you to change your situation. Thank you so much. Thank you
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